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Title: Immigration's Third World Cruelty to Animals
Source: Frosty Wooldridge
URL Source: [None]
Published: Feb 18, 2004
Author: Frosty Wooldridge
Post Date: 2005-05-01 00:50:37 by 1776
Keywords: Immigrations, Cruelty, Animals
Views: 735
Comments: 81

Gentle Song galloped into the wind. She raced along the fences of the pasture on summer days. Gentle Song carried kids on her back around the paddock. Last week, in California, two drunken illegal aliens killed Gentle Song for blood sport.

Most countries in the Third World do not have laws against animal cruelty. Mexico is one of them. Some cultures do not share our fondness for pets. Muslims regard dogs as unclean and owners may have their pets confiscated while on a walk. In parts of Asia, cats and dogs are skinned alive and boiled-much like lobsters.

One of the growing aspects of Third World Momentum invading the United States is the importation of cultures that perpetuate animal cruelty. Latin Americans invest in cock fighting like Americans cheer the NFL. In America today, roosters are thrown into a small pen. Men circle while placing bets on which cock will win. The roosters wear 'gaffs' or steel spikes taped to their legs. With no room to run, the cocks rage into a bloody melee to the death.

Small children watch with their parents. Because kids are indoctrinated into this form of violence, they find animal cruelty to be a 'normal' aspect of life. The two men who killed Gentle Song gave no thought as they beat the horse to death.

But immigrants bring other forms of Third World violence to animals. Dog fighting carries a felony punishment, but thrives in cities where immigrant enclaves hide it. They know it's against the law, but they refuse to shed their Old World ways. The 'melting pot' has become the 'savage arena' of the celebration of 'diversity'. Who suffers?

Pet theft for dog fighting accelerates by the day as our immigrant populations expand. Trainers 'coach' dogs to fight by imposing a cruel protocol from the beginning of the dog's life. Dogs are starved to make them vicious, clubbed to make them tough, and are forced onto treadmills to the point of exhaustion.

Sergeant Steve Brownstein of the Chicago Police Department said, "The dog fighting business is a bloody, gruesome spectacle in which one animal tears the other apart. When dogs lose fights, owners who are angry about losing money often throw them into vacant apartments to die slow, agonizing deaths from infection or starvation. I've seen dogs with the skin torn off their faces, stomachs ripped open and corpses of dogs burned alive for losing fights."

In Arizona, up to half of missing pets are stolen. For what? Pima County Sheriff Mike Duffey said, "Dogs and cats are stolen to be used as bait in bloody training exercises for dog fighting."

Another blood sport is called 'horse tripping'. It's practiced by Mexican charros. They defend it as a 'cultural' right in our country. This is a symptom of Third World Momentum invading America. Horses are driven around an arena. At full gallop, men pull ropes up to trip them. The horses plunge headfirst into the ground or somersault onto their heads. Many end up with broken necks, legs and other internal injuries. This is a part of the 'cultural diversity' being imported into America. A Mexican advocate of horse tripping, Gabriel Velasquez said, "It is a cultural thing, something that came down from our ancestors."

Whether it is animal sacrifice in New York, horse tripping in immigrant enclaves in our Southwest, dog and cat fighting where newcomers band together--this cruelty crisis raises the question of "What is America becoming?" What about the human cruelty of 'female genital mutilation clitorectomies' to baby girls of immigrants from Africa and the Middle East? Why are we inviting this depraved behavior into our country? Where is this massive invasion of incompatible cultures from the Third World taking us? Who is responsible for facilitating this invasion of 1.5 million legal and the estimated 1 million illegal aliens rushing across our borders annually? When will Congress own up to this outrage? Do we want our children meshed with such cultural barbarism? Can we educate enough immigrants fast enough to stop the uncivilized behaviors they bring to our country? Will we be able to withstand their numbers as they 'demonstrate or vote' for their 'rights' to maintain their barbaric cultural practices?

At 2.3 million arriving annually, the answer is, "NO!" We need a ten-year moratorium on all immigration into America so we can catch our national breath and regain a semblance of what this country means to humanity. It does not mean horse-tripping, cock fighting, dog fighting, animal sacrifices, clitorectomies to human babies or the killing of Gentle Song by drunken illegal aliens for the fun of it.

Sources:

MAN PLEADS GUILTY IN KILLING OF MARE GENTLE SONG, ThoroughbredTimes.com

HORSE TRIPPING NOT CULTURAL, San Gabriel Valley Tribune, December 29, 2003

MANY LOST PETS ACTUALLY STOLEN, by Kimberly Matas, Arizona Daily Star, 1/10/04

SEE SPOT. SEE SPOT KILLED. Sargeant Steve Brownstein, CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT

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#13. To: Dakmar (#10)

I get really attached to my pets too. I had a beloved cat who died shortly before 9-11. That date, Aug 18, 2001 was when all hell broke loose, at least for me. All sorts of horrible things happened after that, and now this. I feel totally destroyed right now, all over again. I'm not ready to say goodbye to my dog. At least it was a brain tumor so there was nothing I could have done about it. I tend to blame myself for anything that goes wrong, but I know in this case I can't.

Diana  posted on  2005-05-02   21:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Dakmar, Don, christine, 1776 (#12)

To me animals are the most innocent of innocents.

And what I think is really sick is those people who breed dogs to be killer dogs. There are way too many warped people in this world.

Diana  posted on  2005-05-02   21:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Diana (#13)

Before I got Kashmir I told myself I was in for heartache somewhere down the line. She has brought me so much happiness, that makes it all alright.

Dakmar  posted on  2005-05-02   21:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Diana (#9)

Been in your spot more times than I care to count. I am so sorry.

justlurking  posted on  2005-05-02   21:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Dakmar (#15)

Before I got Kashmir I told myself I was in for heartache somewhere down the line. She has brought me so much happiness, that makes it all alright.

It is definitely worth it. I could not ever imagine NOT having a dog or cat or both around. I drag them out of the humane society or off the street knowing I will out live them (I guess so anyway) and knowing one day my heart is going to break when I have to say goodbye.

justlurking  posted on  2005-05-02   21:47:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Diana (#9)

I've always maintained that you can tell how civilized a society is by the way they treat their animals. I used to think for years that all people are basically good, but it's finally sunk in that this is not the case.

All too true.

1776  posted on  2005-05-02   22:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Diana (#9)

Hang in there. Our pets depend upon us for their well-being and comfort, right to the end.

robin  posted on  2005-05-02   22:28:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Dakmar, Don (#15)

What little family I have is scattered all over the globe, my pets are my family and I love them to pieces. My friend is going to take my dog to the vet tomorrow to have her put to sleep, as I won't be able to take it and I don't want people seeing me breaking down and crying like a baby. I've cried so much since this all happened last Wed, and I know only time will heal my grief over her loss. I love her so much.

Oddly it makes me think some about Iraq, how they must hate Americans for torturing and killing family members and other loved ones.

I'm so freaked over my dog, it all happened so suddenly, and she was in perfect health, or so I thought.

If I were a drinker I would be staying drunk.

Diana  posted on  2005-05-02   23:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Diana (#20)

We have had to do the same with two cats. They were litter mates. The male lived to about 19 and his sister was about 13. It isn't easy, I know.

Don  posted on  2005-05-02   23:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: justlurking (#16)

Been in your spot more times than I care to count. I am so sorry.

Thank you very much, I appreciate that. It's just sad that their life spans are so short, so painful to lose them.

Diana  posted on  2005-05-02   23:39:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robin (#19)

I'm keeping her as comfortable as possible, I have her in her dog bed and today she seems worse, she isn't taking any water or food, I think she is shutting down. I have her bed right in front of me so I can be with her in her last hours. I just want to be with her, wish this weren't happening.

Diana  posted on  2005-05-02   23:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Don, justlurking (#21)

We have had to do the same with two cats. They were litter mates. The male lived to about 19 and his sister was about 13. It isn't easy, I know.

That cat lived a long time! I love cats too, I have a cat, she is sitting by my lap right now. I've lost cats before and it is horribly painful. The one I lost in Aug 2001 was such a goof, so funny and very affectionate. I took his death real hard.

I could never live without having pets either. My father wouldn't allow pets growing up, so as soon as I got out of the house I got a cat, and have never been without pets since.

Diana  posted on  2005-05-02   23:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Diana (#20)

I know your not ok, but wanted you to know I was thinking of you.

justlurking  posted on  2005-05-03   22:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Diana (#24)

Hang in Diana. I lost my Golden three years ago from cancer. He was 10. Like yours, it was rather sudden and totally unexpected. During his last few weeks, I'd put him in my car every day for a Big Mac and Butterscotch Tasty cakes. Right to the end, he loved his junk food. What you’re going through sucks. Bad. No easy way to put it. Just keep in mind the life you gave your dog. He, and you, enjoyed every day. Call me crazy, but I think we'll meet them again on the other side. For me, that would be heaven.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-05-03   22:28:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Diana (#13)

I can't put into words how much sorrow and sympathy I feel for you, Diane. All of us who have loved and lost our beloved furry children know what you're going through right now. The only consolation that I can offer is that you can be comforted in knowing that you gave her a wonderful life--one in which she knew nothing but happiness and love. She was a blessed little creature for having chosen you and you her.

The sad part of having pets is that their life spans, compared to ours, are so short, so we know when we take them that we will eventually suffer the pain of their loss. However, the joy that they bring us is worth it. If we ask ourselves, would I give that up, no matter how short the time, I'm sure most of us would say no. The adage, "it's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all," is so very true.

christine  posted on  2005-05-03   22:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull (#26)

Call me crazy, but I think we'll meet them again on the other side. For me, that would be heaven.

We're both crazy as loons then, because I fully believe that.

justlurking  posted on  2005-05-03   22:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: justlurking, Jethro Tull (#28)

if we don't, then i don't want to go.

christine  posted on  2005-05-03   22:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: justlurking (#28)

You too, hey JL? If heaven is about love, we have to be right.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-05-03   22:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: christine, justlurking, Diana (#29)

Don't fret christine. Me and JL are positive :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-05-03   22:45:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: christine (#29)

See the connection between this story and Zimbabwe?

robnoel  posted on  2005-05-03   22:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: all dog lovers or cat (#28)

I'll pass on what was passed to me when Pookie died. I still bawl reading it again.

The Power of The Dog

There is sorrow enough in the natural way From men and women to fill our day; And when we are certain of sorrow in store, Why do we always arrange for more? Brothers and Sisters, I bid you beware Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.

Buy a pup and your money will buy Love unflinching that cannot lie - Perfect passion and worship fed By a kick in the ribs or a pat on the head. Nevertheless it is hardly fair To risk your heart for a dog to tear.

When the fourteen years which Nature permits Are closing in asthma, or tumour, or fits, And the vet's unspoken prescription runs To lethal chambers or loaded guns, Then you will find - it's your own affair - But...you've given your heart for a dog to tear.

When the body that lived at your single will, With its whimper of welcome, is stilled (how still!); When the spirit that answered your every mood Is gone - wherever it goes - for good, You will discover how much you care, And will give your heart for the dog to tear.

We've sorrow enough in the natural way, When it comes to burying Christian clay. Our loves are not given, but only lent, At compound interest of cent per cent. Though it is not always the case, I believe, That the longer we've kept 'em, the more do we grieve: For, when debts are payable, right or wrong, A short-time loan is as bad as a long - So why in Heaven (before we are there) Should we give our hearts to a dog to tear?

Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)

justlurking  posted on  2005-05-03   22:49:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#30)

If heaven is about love, we have to be right.

I know we are.

justlurking  posted on  2005-05-03   22:50:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: justlurking, Diana (#33)

All Dogs go to Heaven.

I had a great aunt who really believed this. Her logic was simple. Heaven was a place with no tears and she could not be happy w/o her dogs. Therefore, All Dogs go to Heaven.

robin  posted on  2005-05-03   23:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: 1776 (#1)

Things will still have to get a lot worse before change will come.

Dear God, I don't know if I can bear it after reading this. Cruelty to animals gets me more than anything.

christine  posted on  2005-05-03   23:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: robnoel (#32)

no, tell me.

christine  posted on  2005-05-03   23:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: justlurking, christine, Jethro Tull, lustlurking, Robin, Zipporah, 1776 (#33)

So why in Heaven (before we are there) Should we give our hearts to a dog to tear?

I have always believed that animals have souls and they go to heaven too. Last night I asked Pixie to please meet me there and to say hi to my other beloved pets that I've lost through the years.

This morning my friend's husband took her in to be put to sleep, the vet said it was hopeless as her whole back end was completely paralyzed and shut down, and she would never recover and only get worse and suffer.

My friend's husband said it was very peaceful, they petted her and talked to her the whole time, and she just drifted off without any apparent pain or discomfort.

So today I gave the rest of the diapers and baby food to a friend who knows someone with a baby, and put Pixie's things away. I will keep her dog bed by my bed as she loved it and it will make me feel in a way that she is nearby. I've been crying all day as I'm so devastated over this, but I am glad that she had a good life, just wish she could have stayed around longer. This is so hard.

christine, I am like you in that I can't stand cruelty to animals. They depend on us for everything, and for human beings to go out of their way to cause them pain and suffering enrages me to no end.

I still have my cat who seems most aware of what happened to Pixie, and my other 2 little dogs. I feel like I've been ignoring them for the past week since that happened to Pixie, but am grateful I still have them. I will miss Pixie so much though, her cute ways and her snorts and grunts and so on. I know only time will heal this. I just want her back, that's all I feel at this point, I just want her back but I know it can't be. Thanks to all of you for your support as this is very hard.

Diana  posted on  2005-05-04   4:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Diana (#38)

As other posters have mentioned,I can't imagine life without a dog either. I've always had one since I can remember. I've lost two great dogs and a cat in the last 15 years.

The last one was our Golden that died from cancer 3 years ago at 10 years old. She passed her physical with flying colors and about 6 months latter she fell and couldn't get back up so we rushed her to Vets. That's when they diagnoised liver cancer. We had to put her down the next day and my wife and I were devastated.

Our lives were empty without our campanion and we couldn't take the void. My wife spent a whole day making calls to find another Golden. We finally found another and she just turned 3. We also have a Maine Coon cat that is getting up there in years.

I'm really beginning to wonder what is causing the extremely high cancer rates in dogs. I highly suspect it's all the vaccinations and internal insecticides which are given to dogs for heartworms and fleas. I'm very suspicious of those products. It seems as though everyones dog dies of cancer.

I'm not an Animal rights activist but people who treat animals like those mentioned in the article really piss me off. They are the true animals.

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-05-04   8:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Diana (#38)

Thoughts and prayers for better days, Diana.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-05-04   10:22:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Diana (#38)

I got a small dog (Schnauzer) last time around. One reason was because smaller (not toy) breeds supposedly live longer. Some breeds are very healthy like the Welsh Terrier (very demanding little squirts). There are a few other breeds with longevity and no known genetic health problems.

Give yourself some time.

robin  posted on  2005-05-04   10:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: christine (#37)

You can tell a culture by the way it treats it's animals makes no difference if it's domestic or wild....

A tsunami of blood ... who cares?

Massive slaughter is old hat for Africa. Living beings mowed down for no good reason with automatic weapons or slashed with machetes. Rivers of blood and bloated bodies.

This time, it's not dead people. This time, it's animals, beginning with big game.

Since the usual reaction of the rest of the world to African bloodbaths is to ignore it or to '"tsk tsk" that nothing was done soon enough, it's not surprising that the current slaughter in Zimbabwe is virtually ignored in the media and the West.

For lovers of African wildlife – giraffes, lions, elephants, hippos, antelopes, cheetahs and more – it's a disaster of unparalleled proportions, being done on government orders.

There is no safe place for wildlife left in Zimbabwe, the era of protection is over.

Robert Mugabe, the just re-elected (in a highly disputed election) communist president of that country has ordered – yes, ordered – the country's national parks and rangers, rural district councils and, in some cases, military, to conduct a wholesale slaughter of all big game.

Reports are that the first week, National Park rangers killed 10 elephants. According to the New Zealand Herald, four of the animals were shot in full view of tourists near Lake Kariba, the largest man-made lake in Africa and a major wildlife haven.

The meat was used for an election celebration barbecue! A giraffe was killed, supposedly for food for hungry peasants, but the meat disappeared, believed appropriated for the police and their buddies.

Robert Mugabe says he ordered the killing to feed his starving people. Yes, the people are starving, but it's because Mugabe's incompetent government, henchmen and corrupt cronies have driven the entire country beyond collapse. He caused the famine and now is decimating the wildlife supposedly to end it. The only thing he'll end is irreplaceable natural treasure.

Consider that barely five years ago the country produced enough food to feed its own and export. Today, it begs food from the world.

Consider that Mugabe prohibits international donors from distributing free food, doing it himself, but denying it to his political opposition – no vote, no food.

Consider that in 2002, it was recorded that 89 percent of E.U. aid money was embezzled by the government.

Consider that under government price-fixing policies, producers were ordered to sell food and goods for less than they cost to make.

Consider that the Zimbabwe dollar was once worth more than the U.S. dollar – now, it takes more than 20,000 to buy one greenback.

Consider that the government takes more than half of wages in taxes and out-of-control inflation makes the rest worthless. Bus fare costs more than the monthly wages of workers.

Consider that life expectancy is 34 years for men, 33 for women. HIV is rampant, leaving some 700,000 AIDS orphans.

Consider that North Korea trained Mugabe's military, Libya had training bases in the interior and there was money to send his army to the Congo to support that Marxist dictator.

Consider that his political opponents were threatened, beaten, tortured or killed and the media controlled or shut down.

Consider that tourism and a network of safari camps were the most vital economic assets of the country. Now, tourism is dead and soon all the animals will be as well.

If you dreamed of visiting Zimbabwe – called Rhodesia, under the British – you know it was a gem. Blessed with temperate climate, spectacular scenery including Victoria Falls, well-stocked game reserves and ancient ruins.

Add to that, the country had fertile soil, one of the most productive agricultural economies on the continent and huge reserves of gold, platinum and other natural resources.

The country operated with an efficient road and rail network, to say nothing of business, manufacturing, banking and media operations. The school system was excellent and the population one of the best educated in Africa.

Then came independence and Robert Mugabe. It's been disaster since. The country is in virtual economic collapse.

Five years ago, under the euphemism of "land reform," Mugabe ordered the seizure of nearly 7,000 private, white-owned farms, operations which grew the food that fed the people and supported the export economy.

His organized mobs looted the properties, beat and killed the white owners – and did the same to blacks who worked on the farms – killed livestock herds and wildlife, and burned homes and crops. The land was left fallow and millions are starving.

Most of those stolen farms were given as perks to government officials and political cronies. The estate of Vice President Joshua Nkomo included 16 farms.

During all of this, government-sanctioned poachers deliberately decimated animals on commercial game farms. Thousands of snares killed everything from sable antelope, wild dogs, cats and zebra to anything else that fell victim.

Estimates are that in three years, 80 percent of all animals on the game farms were killed.

Now big game is the target – they don't stand a chance. Particularly at risk is the trans-frontier park. That's where wildlife from Mozambique and South Africa (Kruger National Park) moves freely into Zimbabwe across borders. Conservationists there are desperate, knowing the wildlife heritage is being irredeemably destroyed.

Where's our anger? Where's our outrage? Where are the animal rights, animal protection and nature-Earth protection organizations? Why don't we hear their furious screams at this murderous rape of nature, just as they do when a fairy shrimp or red-legged frog is perceived in danger?

Is it really all politics?

Consider that just last Wednesday, Zimbabwe was re-elected to the U.N. Human Rights Commission! Only three countries protested: Australia, Canada and the United States. Our statement said that the United States is "perplexed and dismayed by the decision."

Perplexed and dismayed?! Why not infuriated? Outraged? Insulted?

What about the animal slaughter? There hasn't been any U.S. statement about that, or one from any other country, for that matter.

Those animals are a world heritage. It's obscene this should take place below media radar.

Put on the pressure! Stop the money. Perhaps if all donations to every animal-environmental-zoo group stopped, they might get the message that we want to hear their international shrieks of outrage over this government ordered, senseless wildlife slaughter.

It's wanton killing to cover up the failure of a communist dictatorship whose leader is still accepted on the international scene.

That's a travesty too, but come to think of it, that's probably why it's being ignored.

See? It is politics. And like most politics, it's bathed in the blood of innocents. It's disgusting.

robnoel  posted on  2005-05-04   10:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Grumble Jones, Jethro Tull, Diana, ALL (#39)

I'm really beginning to wonder what is causing the extremely high cancer rates in dogs.

Like you, I wonder too. I know so many people who have had dogs that have gotten cancer and died quickly--very young ones too. I, like you, suspect the vaccinations. I have two cats. One is a 16 yr old himalayan. He and his litter mate, who died at the age of 6 of chylothorax (tumor), were both highly allergic to vaccines and had life-threatening reactions to them the first couple of times they got them. Needless to say, we stopped vaccinating them. My other cat is a female maine coon who we rescued exactly one year to the day after losing our other little girl. We don't vaccinate her either. Our cats are indoor cats. They are both, thankfully, very healthy and I never have to take them to the vet.

I'd recommend that pet owners, if they're going to vaccinate them, do it bi- yearly, rather than annually.

christine  posted on  2005-05-04   10:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: christine (#43)

Does your Maine Coon exhibit strange behavior?

I've been around a lot of cats but our Maine Coon is downright bizarre.

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-05-04   10:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: christine (#43)

I used to breed and show shih tzus.. the only problem I ever had healthwise with any of my dogs was one that had autoimmune.. we nearly lost him..He was the best show prospect I had ever bred..of course due to the illness it took him out of being a show dog.. and what was the cause? It wasn't inherited.. it was from a vaccination..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-04   10:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: robnoel (#42)

How's your voice after 4 hours yesterday, Robby :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-05-04   11:01:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: christine, Diana (#43)

I purchased our Schnauzer from Skansen Kennels in Sebastapol, CA. They are nuts about what to feed your dogs. I did everything they said for several months then gave up. Raw meat, special supplements, the works. Maybe if I grew the sheep on organic grass it would work. I think the source is important. Our dog had stomach problems with the raw diet. I began cooking a mixture. The vet drew up a menu. Now we just use a high quality dry.

My sister told me about a 27 year old dog that's eaten nothing but a vegetarian diet. There is a high quality dry food that is vegetarian. In the wild, dogs did not live that long; that's one argument that nothing's changed. But, I agree with you, dogs are not as healthy as they once were. Irresponsible breeders are to blame too.

robin  posted on  2005-05-04   11:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Zipporah (#45)

shih tzus..

My in-laws had one of them. It had skin problems and smelled really bad. Nothing would help it's skin problem except for cortisone shots. Eventually they didn't help and it's eyes started to pop out. It died from cancer when it was about 9.

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-05-04   11:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: robnoel (#42)

Where's our anger? Where's our outrage? Where are the animal rights, animal protection and nature-Earth protection organizations? Why don't we hear their furious screams at this murderous rape of nature, just as they do when a fairy shrimp or red-legged frog is perceived in danger?

Is it really all politics?

Where is the outrage? I would say that 99% of Americans have NO idea this is going on.. Just try even to get those like Democracy Now to do a story on this.. I bet they wont even reply.. now the question.. why? It may be politics..but for what purpose? Apparently what is happening in Zimbabwe and in South Africa is going as planned.. now again the question to what end?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-04   11:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Grumble Jones (#48)

My in-laws had one of them. It had skin problems and smelled really bad. Nothing would help it's skin problem except for cortisone shots. Eventually they didn't help and it's eyes started to pop out. It died from cancer when it was about 9.

.. poor breeding..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-04   11:07:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Jethro Tull (#46)

Yep...it was a haul not as young as I used to be could never do it daily...Alex always used to impress me by doing 6 hour stints...

robnoel  posted on  2005-05-04   11:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: robnoel (#42)

Where's our anger? Where's our outrage? Where are the animal rights, animal protection and nature-Earth protection organizations? Why don't we hear their furious screams at this murderous rape of nature, just as they do when a fairy shrimp or red-legged frog is perceived in danger?

Lord, Robby, your account was painful to read. The thing that I cannot understand is why such heinousness, atrocity, and brutality is allowed to go on this world. Is there any goodness left? Certainly not enough to combat the evil that is in charge here. I know I'm going to get flack for this, but it does make me doubt the existence of a loving, caring, omnipresent god.

christine  posted on  2005-05-04   12:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Grumble Jones (#44)

strange in what way? ours is a unique situation since she suffered both abuse and neglect as a kitten, so she's very skittish.

from my experience, most maine coons are easy-going, docile cats. i guess any one of them could have odd personalities or behavioral quirks.

christine  posted on  2005-05-04   12:52:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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