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Title: Dixie Chicks having the last word
Source: Grammy's
URL Source: http://n/a
Published: Feb 11, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-02-11 21:20:33 by scooter
Keywords: Dixie, Chicks
Views: 935
Comments: 34

Dixie Chicks just took home Grammy for "Song of the Year" for "Not Ready to Make Nice". As they concluded their thank-yous, CBS cuts to a commercial break showing a less than happy Reba....

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#1. To: scooter (#0)

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-02-11   21:31:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lodwick, burkeman1, bluedogtxn (#1)

Burke, whenever I had mentioned on the forums that I was not into Country Music much (because I am from the north and there is no Country Music radio here) I would get a mean reaction - that it was proof I was anti-American because I did not identifiy with music of the heartland or something.

I never understood how Country Music - the music of the honky tonk anti establishment ('Take This Job and Shove It') became the music that is like part of the cult of what you termed the reich-wing.

Maybe bluedogtxn can fill in any info on how this music genre was co-opted by the so called reich-wing?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-11   21:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Destro (#2)

That is a good question because Country music was fueled from it's very beginning by outlaws, misfits and assorted others who had little love for the Law.

I think it happened in the 90's about the time grunge came on scene. When that exploded you loved it or hated it. The hip-hop scene was in its infancy. A lot of people struggled to relate to either and so did a lot of stations. Good contemporary rock was hard to find and it was finding a hard time competing with grunge and hip-hop. I think artists who would have otherwise been contemporary rock found a home in Nashville. That and the old guard of country was aging out. I think Nashville said we need to "modernize" or die. The Clear Channel effect happened much later in the process. That's my 2 cents worth.

"People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people." -- V

scooter  posted on  2007-02-11   22:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: scooter (#3) (Edited)

The last of old type of country is I think exemplified by the song 'Take This Job and Shove It' which came out at the end of the 70s. While this song is anti- establishment like we expect the Republicans to be it is also anti corporation and anti business. The Republican Country Music cult members of today are pro big corporations (defending Walmart). So a song by Johnny Paycheck called 'Take This Job and Shove It' would never even get air time in the modern Country scene.

Why the change in the music industry happened I can guess at but I really don't know for sure.

My theory is that Rock was the music of the protesting leftists and the Country crowd of the 60s and 70s was still anti Republican but the South was changing thanks to Nixon's Southern strategy which Reagan's revolution continued and took advantage of. So that the Southerner started to identify the Republican party and the music identified this trend. Music does not set trends as much as identify them.

For example I don't think gangsta rap created the gang problems but came along because there was already a gang problem.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-11   22:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: scooter, Hmmmmm (#0)

ah...vindication. :P

christine  posted on  2007-02-11   23:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Destro (#2) (Edited)

Merle Haggard- America First

honway  posted on  2007-02-11   23:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#6) (Edited)

Written by Merle Haggard

Why don't we liberate these United States
We're the ones who need it the worst

Who's on the hill and who's watching the valley
Who's in charge of it all
God bless the Army and God bless our liberty
Dadgum the rest of it all

Yeah, men in position but backing away
Freedom is stuck in reverse
Let's get out of Iraq and get back on the track
And let's rebuild America first

honway  posted on  2007-02-11   23:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: honway (#6)

let's get out of irag and take america back! yeah, Merle. take that Toby Keith. ;)

christine  posted on  2007-02-11   23:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#5)

ah...vindication.

Sweet!!!

I'm truly shocked in that I never saw this coming. I still call the local stations once in a while just to remind them that they still are not playing the DC.

I never really cared for the chicks at all until "I'm not ready to make nice." came out. Gutsy move, an anthem for us, I am in their debt.

Zionism Threat Level Alert provided by True Torah Jews.

Hmmmmm  posted on  2007-02-11   23:49:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: scooter, Zipporah, christine (#0)

Dixie Chicks just took home Grammy for "Song of the Year" for "Not Ready to Make Nice". As they concluded their thank-yous, CBS cuts to a commercial break showing a less than happy Reba....

When asked why they wouldn't play the album, one bigshot Pro-war country station programmer said "I read the lyrics and "Not Ready to Make Nice" was basically a four minute F*** YOU to us!"

Well, you dumped on Shania and she showed you that country needed her much more than the other way around, and now the Chix can do the same thing.

IF the Clear Channel chickenhawks "stay the course" they'll be the musical equivalent of http://Lewrockwell.com-a museum where people visit a dying political philosphy.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-11   23:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Hmmmmm, Zippporah, christine, Diana, rowdee, robin, Minerva (#9)

Sweet!!!

I'm truly shocked in that I never saw this coming. I still call the local stations once in a while just to remind them that they still are not playing the DC.

I never really cared for the chicks at all until "I'm not ready to make nice." came out. Gutsy move, an anthem for us, I am in their debt.

The Chix are the cat's meow!

LONG TIME GONE

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-11   23:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#8)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1783198/posts

The whines are thin and pitiful at Free Republic over this. I feel their pain.

Not.

"We seek a free flow of information... a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation afraid of its people." --JFK, Feb 1962

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-02-11   23:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: honway (#7)

Written by Merle Haggard

Now there is a man who knows what America's promise is.

tom007  posted on  2007-02-11   23:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: honway, tom007, christine, Zipporah, Diana, rowdee, robin, Jethro Tull, lodwick, Ferret Mike (#7) (Edited)

Yeah, men in position but backing away

Freedom is stuck in reverse

Let's get out of Iraq and get back on the track

And let's rebuild America first

Merle stuck by Nixon and Vietnam and disdain for flower power, never admitting error or revising his views. As recently as 8 years ago he'd still quietly stand his ground and stubbornly refuse to disavow it. But, this current obscenity has forced him to come out against the madness, and he must see the parallels, right?

These new lyrics are the closest thing to an admission of fallibility on the former stance he took that made him controversial all those years ago.

"Okie From Muskogee" was very controversial and other country artists were too busy trying to cross over to risk alienating young folks then.

Now that giant radio congloms controlled by chickenhawks support "Texas Republicans" (neither of the Bushes are true Texans or Republicans-Reagan was forced to take Poppy on the ticket and even "shown the brush he'd be tarred with if he refused") their listeners don't know that they're owned by Zionists who get jocks with Southern accents to mouth the plan for ERETZ ISRAEL and make it sound dear to Confederate hearts, no matter how much American blood is spilled.

Even people who are programmed never to think in critical terms about Israel can be slapped momentarily awake by asking them this:

"Why did Americans fight, die and slaughter innocent non-combatants wholesale (see the MILE OF DEATH) http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0212/pt04.html to protect Kuwait's oil fields from Iraq's slant drlling when the sons and daughters of Kuwait's royal families were discoing the nites away and powdering their noses on the Riviera?

Shouldn't their sons have fought to protect their own country, and if not why not, and, WHY US?"

Now, don't get me wrong, I worship Merle Haggard and I'm very pleased that he's writing and singing these lyrics. But, the real story is the last man to abandon Nixon and Vietnam is openly opposing Bush!

He doesn't get any airplay now, either. Gretchen Wilson's POLITICALLY UNCORRECT is aired occasionally on country video channels and that has Merle as a cameo, but his videos? Never.

He even appeared in a wonderful video in duet with Marty Stuart in FARMER'S BLUES and it was very hot, and that rarely gets played now that Merle has spoken out against the war.

FARMER'S BLUES

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-12   1:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: HOUNDDAWG (#14) (Edited)

their listeners don't know that they're owned by Zionists who get jocks with Southern accents to mouth the plan for ERETZ ISRAEL and make it sound dear to Confederate hearts, no matter how much American blood is spilled.

You are on to their game plan. Make it sound like the "towel Heads" are going to make deer hunting illeagel in Texas. Or outlaw Copenhagen in Ohio.

What a bunch of Suckers.

tom007  posted on  2007-02-12   1:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

To: christine

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1783198/posts

The whines are thin and pitiful at Free Republic over this. I feel their pain.

Not.

To: nctexan

Q. Could they win these awards based on musical talent? A. No.

20 posted on 02/11/2007 7:25:52 PM PST by Kirkwood [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ] To: dfwgator

Even my preteen was digusted.. I didn't watch it but I heard him yelling upstairs "Was this a set-up or what?"

21 posted on 02/11/2007 7:25:58 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ] _________________________________________________

So, the radio boycott failed and now the industry is eaten up with mindless Bush haters?

HAH!

I got nooz for the freeps. The rest of his supporters who actually see the truth have a different priority than protecting a cult leader. Like, saving America, or, even saving their own hard earned assets from dilution by trillions of Monopoly bux that are being printed round the clock...

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-12   1:12:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: tom007 (#15) (Edited)

You are on to their game plan. Make it sound like the "towel Heads" are going to make deer hunting illeagel in Texas. Our outlaw Copenhagen in Ohio.

What a bunch of Suckers.

I think now we're down to the Bush supporters who can be honest with themselves, and the freeps.

Those who admit the truth may not trumpet it but they don't rally or poll favorably anymore.

Those who still stubbornly refuse to concede are the personality types that are considered for special, Arthur Bremer types of assignments by the profilers who select from the would-be Manchurians among us.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-12   1:23:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: HOUNDDAWG (#10)

When asked why they wouldn't play the album, one bigshot Pro-war country station programmer said "I read the lyrics and "Not Ready to Make Nice" was basically a four minute F*** YOU to us!"

And the Country Music Academy just gave it a big SHOUT to the Klearchannel crowd: F**k YOU, the horse you rode in on, and the rat that followed you!

That's exactly what this award was.

Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-02-12   1:45:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#18)

And the Country Music Academy just gave it a big SHOUT to the Klearchannel crowd: F**k YOU, the horse you rode in on, and the rat that followed you!

That's exactly what this award was.

They really did brutalize The Chix, and, death threats from Bush cultists?

I mean, what's that all about?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-12   1:49:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: HOUNDDAWG (#19) (Edited)

They really did brutalize The Chix, and, death threats from Bush cultists?

I mean, what's that all about?

The DUHbya supporters are scrunching their eyes real tight and sticking their fingers in their ears - they lack the courage to look at the truth - they're SUCKERS, and they are behaving as "morans" always do - getting angry and red faced at the people who are pointing out that they are SUCKERS.

It's an easy phenomena to point out - but how do you give the extra 50 IQ points they need to figure it out for themselves - and the courage to want to do it.

A lot of it, I think, goes back to 911 - they still believe, and want to believe because the alternative scares them too much, the Official Conspiracy Theory™ of "19Arabswhohateuscuzwe'refree". What it comes down to is they are basically stupid - the bottom quartile on the "Bell Curve".

Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-02-12   1:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent (#20)

The DUHbya supporters are scrunching their eyes real tight and sticking their fingers in their ears - the lack the courage to look at the truth - they're SUCKERS, and they are behaving as "morans" always do - getting angry and red faced at the people who are pointing out that they are SUCKERS.

It's an easy phenomena to point out - but how do you give the extra 50 IQ points they need to figure it out for themselves - or the backbone to apply it.

A lot of it, I think, goes back to 911 - they still believe, and want to believe because the alternative scares them too much, the Official Conspiracy Theory™ of "19Arabswhohateuscuzwe'refree". What it comes down to is they are basically stupid.

Very good.

Nothing I can add to that.

I would say, "Show them Christian love, brother", but.....Nahhhhhhh!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-02-12   2:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21)

I would say, "Show them Christian love, brother", but.....Nahhhhhhh!

I know what W.C. would say: "Never give a Sucker and even break". LOL!

Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-02-12   2:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: HOUNDDAWG. everyone here (#11)

Long Time Gone - a eulogy to our country.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-02-12   9:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: tom007 (#15)

Make it sound like the "towel Heads" are going to make deer hunting illegal in Texas.

Or outlaw Copenhagen in Ohio.

classic bump

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-02-12   9:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: scooter (#0)

CBS cuts to a commercial break showing a less than happy Reba....

Screw Reba, the anti-gun bitch!

"We are Americans. This is our country. He, who would take it from us, by force or by stealth, is our enemy. And it is our purpose -- nay, it is our duty, to our children and to their children and to our yet unborn posterity -- to use all feasible means to destroy him." Dr. Revilo P. Oliver

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-02-12   9:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: BTP Holdings. everyone (#25)

Shut Up and Sing trailer -

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-02-12   9:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: All (#26)

Dixie Chicks do Hardball

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-02-12   11:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lodwick (#27)

From the dc site:

February 12, 2007 UNBELIEVABLE NIGHT at the Grammy Awards!

UNBELIEVABLE NIGHT! Dixie Chicks went five for five at the 29th Annual Grammy Awards on Feb 11 winning the big three general categories: Album of the Year, Record of the Year and Song of the Year, as well as Best Country Album and Best Country Performance By a Duo or Group. Last minute TV note: On the day after their Grammy sweep, VH1 has decided to re-air Dixie Chicks' Storytellers at 3pm eastern/pacific (Mon Feb 12.)

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-02-12   11:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: angle (#28)

I hope YouTube gets some clips up soon - this is one time that I'm sorry I don't watch the tellie.

They who laugh last, laugh best.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-02-12   12:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Destro (#2)

Maybe bluedogtxn can fill in any info on how this music genre was co-opted by the so called reich-wing?

I can, but not today. I'm in a jury trial.

Seeya tomorrow.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-02-12   13:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lodwick (#23)

Long Time Gone

But don't no don't now try to get yourself elected
If you do you had better cut your hair.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-02-12   14:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: HOUNDDAWG, honway, tom007, christine, Zipporah, Diana, rowdee, robin, Jethro Tull, lodwick, Ferret Mike (#14)

Maybe you can answer my question at #2? Merle Haggard is a perfect Country artist that illustrates this relationship between the South and the Republican party.

Is it the legacy of the Nixon Southern Strategy? I never understood how Country became transformed from a music geared to basically poor working class whites both urban and rural and into the music of a political movement.

I don't think we will ever have a Republican candidate for president not have a country song for a campaign theme song except for maybe Gov. Arnold who had a Twisted Sister song as his campaign theme.

In any case the Republicans and Country Music link have become cliched as any listener to Sean Hannity's radio program can attest - and Sean is not even Southern - he is from Long Island but pretends he is from Georgia or something.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-02-14   0:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: HOUNDDAWG (#14)

He even appeared in a wonderful video in duet with Marty Stuart in FARMER'S BLUES and it was very hot, and that rarely gets played now that Merle has spoken out against the war.

Freedom isn't free.

Those who make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities. – Voltaire
In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt

robin  posted on  2007-02-14   0:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: HOUNDDAWG (#14)

Now, don't get me wrong, I worship Merle Haggard and I'm very pleased that he's writing and singing these lyrics. But, the real story is the last man to abandon Nixon and Vietnam is openly opposing Bush!

I saw Merle Haggard in concert last year. I never was particularly a fan and only saw him because he opened for Bob Dylan (odd couple, no?). He was really cool and very openly anti-bush and his war. I was majorly impressed and liked his music too! plus he's kinda cute :)

I believe people's viewpoints can change from experience, from circumstances and from thinking and learning. if we can't do that, what's the point?

some would call it flip-flopping - how shallow. I call it maturing.

kiki  posted on  2007-02-14   1:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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