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Title: Revelation! 666 is not the number of the beast (it's a devilish 616)
Source: The Independent UK
URL Source: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679
Published: May 1, 2005
Author: Tom Anderson
Post Date: 2005-05-01 13:47:38 by Zipporah
Keywords: Revelation!, devilish, number
Views: 154
Comments: 12

A newly discovered fragment of the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament indicates that, as far as the Antichrist goes, theologians, scholars, heavy metal groups, and television evangelists have got the wrong number. Instead of 666, it's actually the far less ominous 616.

The new fragment from the Book of Revelation, written in ancient Greek and dating from the late third century, is part of a hoard of previously unintelligible manuscripts discovered in historic dumps outside Oxyrhynchus in Egypt. Now a team of expert classicists, using new photographic techniques, are finally deciphering the original writing.

Professor David Parker, Professor of New Testament Textual Criticism and Paleography at the University of Birmingham, thinks that 616, although less memorable than 666, is the original. He said: "This is an example of gematria, where numbers are based on the numerical values of letters in people's names. Early Christians would use numbers to hide the identity of people who they were attacking: 616 refers to the Emperor Caligula."

The Book of Revelation is traditionally considered to be written by John, a disciple of Jesus; it identifies 666 as the mark of the Antichrist. In America, the fundamentalist Christian right often use the number in sermons about the coming Apocalypse.

They and satanists responded coolly to the new "Revelation". Peter Gilmore, High Priest of the Church of Satan, based in New York, said: "By using 666 we're using something that the Christians fear. Mind you, if they do switch to 616 being the number of the beast then we'll start using that."

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

there have been far too many forgeries for me to take this at face value.

Continental Op  posted on  2005-05-01   13:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Continental Op (#1)

there have been far too many forgeries for me to take this at face value.

Possibly..this is the first I've read of this.. the 'popular' view of Revelation began in the mid 1800s with Darby/Scofield..I don't interpret Revelation from that standpoint as it is, so this won't effect my understanding of the book if it's proven to be a forgery..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-01   13:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#0)

This is an example of gematria, where numbers are based on the numerical values of letters in people's names.

This article is 40% evil and 60% good.

The Gematriculator

crack monkey  posted on  2005-05-01   16:47:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: crack monkey (#3)

True.. and during the time that the book was written the usage of numberical value was not unusual.. if you read the passage it does say..Rev. 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six... does seem that is exactly what this passage was referring to..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-01   17:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#0)

I thought it was 202.

Tauzero  posted on  2005-05-02   2:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tauzero, Zipporah (#5)

A collection of Numbers of the Beast

666             Number of the beast
668             Neighbor of the beast
660             Approximate Number of the Beast
DCLXVI        	Roman Numeral of the Beast
666.0000      	Number of the High Precision Beast
0.666        	Number of the Millibeast
1/666           Common Denominator of the Beast
666[-/(-1)]     Imaginary number of the Beast
10011010   	Binary Number of the Beast
29A            	Hexadecimal Number of the Beast
-666            Negative Number of the Beast
00666           Zip code of the Beast
$665.95         Retail Price of the Beast
$699.25         Price of the Beast Plus 5% State Sales Tax
$769.95         Price of the Beast with all Accessories and Replacements
$656.66         Wal-Mart Price of the Beast
$646.66         Next week's Wal-Mart Price of the Beast
$333.00         After Christmas sale Price of the Beast
$222.00         Going Out Business Liquidation Price of the Beast
Phillips 666    Gasoline of the Beast
Route 666       Way of the Beast
665             Older Brother of the Beast
667             Younger Brother of the Beast
6-6-6           Fertilizer of the Beast  
666 UP         	Soft Drink of the Beast
666lb cap      	Weight Limit of the Beast
666 F           Oven Temperature for Cooking Roast "Beast"
666k            Retirement Plan of the Beast
666 mg          Recommended Minimum Daily Requirement of Beast
6.66%          	5 Year CD Rate at First Beast of Hell, $666 Minimum Deposit
1-800-666-6666  Toll Free Number of the Beast  
Lotus 6-6-6     Spreadsheet of the Beast
Word 6.66     	Word Processor of the Beast
6"X 6"X 6"      Lumber of the Beast
i66686     	CPU of the Beast
666i          	BMW of the Beast
666-66-6666   	Social Security Number of the Beast
6/6/66          Birth Date of the Beast
666.AC.com    	URL of the Beast   
IAM 666         License Plate Number of the Beast
Formula 666    	All Purpose Cleaner of the Beast
WD-666          Spray Lubricant of the Beast 
66.6 MHz        FM Radio Station of the Beast
666 KHz         AM Radio Station of the Beast
Chanel No. 666	The Beast's Favorite Perfume
666%            What the Beast Gives in His Game
Colt 666        Revolver or Beer of the Beast

Starwind  posted on  2005-05-02   2:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Starwind (#6)

ROFL!

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-02   3:06:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tauzero (#5)

I thought it was 202.

LOL.. DC's area code?? ROFL!

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-02   3:14:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Starwind (#6)

This is the only beastly number I'm worried about for the moment...

$665.9 bl trade deficit...

Eoghan  posted on  2005-05-02   8:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Eoghan (#9)

LOL - $666B Trade Deficit of the Beast - I like it.

Starwind  posted on  2005-05-02   11:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Starwind (#6)

Heinz 666 - the steak sauce of the beast.

Dakmar  posted on  2005-05-02   11:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Dakmar (#11)

Heinz 666 - the steak sauce of the beast.

LOL - I like that too. (though, I'm more of 'Beastershire' kinda guy myself)

Starwind  posted on  2005-05-02   13:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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