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Title: Honey Bee Die-off Alarms Beekeepers
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URL Source: http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/ ... ry=animals&guid=20070205144500
Published: Feb 15, 2007
Author: Larry O'Hanlon
Post Date: 2007-02-15 20:57:42 by Jethro Tull
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Comments: 55
Honey Bee Die-off Alarms Beekeepers Larry O'Hanlon, Discovery News Feb. 5, 2007 — Something is wiping out honey bees across North America and a team of researchers is rushing to find out what it is. What’s being called Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) has now been seen in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia and way out in California. Some bee keepers have lost up to 80 percent of their colonies to the mysterious disorder. "Those are quite scary numbers," said Dennis vanEngelsdorp, Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture’s lead apiarist. Whatever kills the bees targets adult workers which die outside the colony — with few adults left inside, either alive or dead. The disorder decimates the worker bee population in a matter of weeks. Aside from making honey, honey bees are essential for the pollination of tens of million of dollars worth of cash crops all over the United States. That’s why almond growers of California, for instance, are taking notice and pledging funds to help identify and fight the honey bee disorder. Among the possible culprits are a fungus, virus, or a variety of microbes and pesticides. No one knows just yet. On first inspection, the pattern of die-offs resembles something that has been seen in more isolated cases in Louisiana, Texas and Australia, vanEngelsdorp said. "Right now our efforts are on collecting as many samples as possible," said vanEngelsdorp. Bees that are collected are carefully dissected and analyzed to see what might have killed them. Other researchers are keeping track of the problem using Google Earth, as well as cutting edge hive-sniffing and eavesdropping technology to investigate the problem.
Poster Comment: Bees are like the salt in bread; you never really notice them until they’re missing. Albert Einstein put it bluntly, “No bees, no food for mankind. The bee is the basis for life on this earth.” Ninety percent of flowering plants and 40 percent of the foods we eat depend on pollinators — mostly honeybees. They pollinate $15 billion worth of agriculture annually in our country.
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
I included it in the Chemtrail thd http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=24039&Disp=62#C62
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
i had no idea.
Wanna bet if you posted this on FR, someone would blame "al-Qaeda"? :P
Ah, but what we see as chemtrains are mere ice chrystals? Or something like that...
Damn straight. For those of us who garden; this is frightening news.
important canary in the mine bump
In Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward's book about the Iraqi war, Plan of Attack, Lt. Gen. Tommy Franks, who was in charge of the operation, famously called Feith the "dumbest f****** guy on the planet."
It must be global warming. Or global cooling, caused by global warming.
Global warming has a simple answer; global taxatation. I told this to my erstwhile son in the hopes he awakens from his green haze.
I was stunned last night when I was listening to this. It has no president.
Feral bees have been nearly absent here for many years. They truck colonies for thousands of miles now and beekeepers have never been busier or more in demand. The Jacobi and Tracheal mites are but two of the culprits that are wiping out honeybees. My friend is building a farm for aquaculture (maybe for Tilapia) down state and he had several bee colonies on his property, and someone, presumably a nearby farmer sprayed them with Raid and left the empty cans strewn around the now dead colonies. Can you believe that a DE farmer doesn't understand the crisis or that bees pollinate nearly everything? (The contribution of butterflies and birds is minimal, and wind is unreliable) I guess some idiot doesn't understand and when he saw a few bees and figured out that a city slicker hobbyist farmer was raising them on his adjoining property he decided to kill them. The fact that we never see feral hives or even the occasional bee in the clover in our yards should have been a clue.... About seven years ago I tried to explain to a co-worker that life as we know it will end without bees he said, "as long as I have my steaks I don't care about veggies!" I didn't try to explain that alfalfa hay (to feed cows) is the largest forage crop in the US and the pollination fees were established in the 1950's.... And, because of CJD we may lose our cattle, elk and deer, and, let's not even talk about the long term effects of DU. People are so clueless that they have no idea that our future is by no means a sure thing.
If someone wanted to put a serious crimp in our food supply; this is an excellent way to do it.
When Dupont's Freon patent was ready to lapse, suddenly it was destroying the atmosphere and was immediately banned, and Dupont's new, patent-protected replacement was in great demand. Because the legislation banning Freon caught everyone including the govt off guard and they and their buddies were inconvenienced, Dupont was asked to make another one hundred million pounds of the deadly stuff! It's this kind of shenanigans that caused people to be cynical about the very real problem of global warming. And, you know about the conspiracy to kill the electric car, but most folks don't realize that perhaps as much as 25% of our entire economy is directly or indirectly related to the automobile. As Irwin Schiff pointed out years ago, we're foolish to spend so much of our money on a single, inefficient item as a car. But, the federal reserve has enjoyed hegemony of the petrobuck because of internal combustion engines, and politically well connected oil companies have no intention of surrendering their control and going the way of the buggy whip, so, until the atmosphere simply drifts off into space we can expect no coordinated research or taxing efforts to mitigate the damage or address the problem.
that infuriates me. interesting post.
That's the one thing this decaying country has in abundance...ignorance.
are you suspicious? ;)
Just a tad.
Try explaining corporate "pollution credits" to this pack of brain dead knuckleheads. Whiz…..right past their heads.
Me too. Plus I also am a beekeeper who was going to start a couple new hives this spring after a 20 year hiatus.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
We used to have that happen to our hives once in awhile--drunken rednecks would kick them over or whatnot. Not sure just exactly how much pollination has to do with agriculture anymore--fruit crops, yeah, but alfalfa farmers try to cut the crop before it flowers (hence no use to bees), and bees are worth dick-all to corn and soybeans. If you were going to be producing seeds that would need to reproduce, that's one thing, but most commercial crops nowadays are sterile. The only time I ever got paid to pollinate was in fruit orchards up here in MN--aside from that, the farmer/landlords were just in it for a gallon or so of free honey per year and the bees picked up what they could.
The national nightmare has ended... Now begins two years of watching the Congress play "Kick the Gimp".
What? did he make a complaint and at least try to get fingerprints off the cans? If I found out who did that to my bees, I would force feed them a can of that poison.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Wild bees were all over my sweet corn last summer. They were so loud you could hear them buzzing 100 feet away. And the local health food store even had soybean honey. When I saw that I said, "Eeeeeeewwwwww." I have no idea if soybean honey is safe considering the ill caused by the Daidzein and other phytochemicals in soy.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
And the local health food store even had soybean honey. When I saw that I said, "Eeeeeeewwwwww." I have no idea if soybean honey is safe considering the ill caused by the Daidzein and other phytochemicals in soy. Oh, well bees will take advantage of any nearby flower, but their pollination work is not needed for a corn or bean crop to be "successful". I wouldn't worry about soy honey--it's not going to make you grow boobs! I don't think it's that great as honey goes, though. Yellow sweet clover honey is the BEST.
The national nightmare has ended... Now begins two years of watching the Congress play "Kick the Gimp".
Oh, yes. I will watch for the sweet clover to bloom and try to get a small amount of it this year. Not sure since the hives may not be strong enough just starting out. And I may be a tad late since it will be late March until I have a prayer of getting them started. That is the trouble with new hives.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Thanks chris. Ignorance really rattles me. I also have a few friends who run for the shovels and bravely kill every black rat snake they see, and nothing I say can overcome their lifetime of superstitious dread that they learned from their equally superstitious parents about the benefits of leaving the snakes alone and letting them keep house.
If you were going to be producing seeds that would need to reproduce, that's one thing, but most commercial crops nowadays are sterile. The only time I ever got paid to pollinate was in fruit orchards up here in MN--aside from that, the farmer/landlords were just in it for a gallon or so of free honey per year and the bees picked up what they could. Interesting. In fact I heard that Monsanto has a patent on a line of products that walk around the fields and pollinate after drinks and dancing....
Because he doesn't live on the property but mostly comes down on the weekends, he's at the mercy of his neighbors...and he can take a hint. He gave me permission to hunt deer there but he has also give prior consent to some locals and I don't want to meet them on opening day and have to explain who I am, and once they realize that I'm from the northern county too, well, they won't want to share even though it isn't their property. I'm not about to set up my tree stand and leave it. A Yankee redneck is alot like A Southern one, but without the friendly charm.
Funny... Here's something that was on the news today. They were talking about a pathogen or fish killing disease that is making its way into the great lakes. They're talking about how it could spread all over Minnesota. I think we're seeing the beginning of a major trend. It's going to be unsafe for people to go hunt or fish, and those self reliant souls will find themselves unable to gather their own food that they choose. The idea of honeybees being wiped out, tells me that the agenda is playing out right in front of us. Food will only be available to those who can afford it. Monetary natural selection will take place.
#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Bees are like the salt in bread; you never really notice them until they’re missing. Albert Einstein put it bluntly, “No bees, no food for mankind. The bee is the basis for life on this earth.”
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
What’s being called Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) has now been seen in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia and way out in California. Some bee keepers have lost up to 80 percent of their colonies to the mysterious disorder.
#4. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#1)
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Albert Einstein put it bluntly, “No bees, no food for mankind. The bee is the basis for life on this earth.”
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Something is wiping out honey bees across North America and a team of researchers is rushing to find out what it is.
#8. To: leveller (#7)
It must be global warming.
#9. To: who knows what evil, robin, all (#5)
Damn straight. For those of us who garden; this is frightening news.
#10. To: christine, Jethro Tull (#2)
(Edited)
#11. To: Jethro Tull (#9)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#12. To: Jethro Tull, Zipporah, christine, Diana, rowdee, robin, Ferret Mike, lodwick (#8)
Global warming has a simple answer; global taxatation. I told this to my erstwhile son in the hopes he awakens from his green haze.
#13. To: HOUNDDAWG (#10)
My friend is building a farm for aquaculture (maybe for Tilapia) down state and he had several bee colonies on his property, and someone, presumably a nearby farmer sprayed them with Raid and left the empty cans strewn around the now dead colonies.
#14. To: christine (#13)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#15. To: who knows what evil (#11)
#16. To: christine (#15)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#17. To: HOUNDDAWG (#12)
#18. To: who knows what evil (#5)
For those of us who garden; this is frightening news.
#19. To: HOUNDDAWG, christine (#10)
My friend is building a farm for aquaculture (maybe for Tilapia) down state and he had several bee colonies on his property, and someone, presumably a nearby farmer sprayed them with Raid and left the empty cans strewn around the now dead colonies.
#20. To: HOUNDDAWG (#10)
presumably a nearby farmer sprayed them with Raid and left the empty cans strewn around the now dead colonies.
#21. To: Indrid Cold (#19)
bees are worth dick-all to corn and soybeans.
#22. To: BTP Holdings (#21)
Wild bees were all over my sweet corn last summer. They were so loud you could hear them buzzing 100 feet away.
#23. To: Indrid Cold (#22)
Yellow sweet clover honey is the BEST.
#24. To: christine, Zipporah, PeetieWheatstraw, Jethro Tull, lodwick, Diana (#13)
#25. To: Indrid Cold, Zipporah, christine, robin, rowdee, Diana, Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull (#19)
(Edited)
Not sure just exactly how much pollination has to do with agriculture anymore--fruit crops, yeah, but alfalfa farmers try to cut the crop before it flowers (hence no use to bees), and bees are worth dick-all to corn and soybeans.
#26. To: BTP Holdings (#20)
What? did he make a complaint and at least try to get fingerprints off the cans? If I found out who did that to my bees, I would force feed them a can of that poison.
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
 | This country's priorities are all fucked up. |
#28. To: Indrid Cold (#19)
That explains so much.
If you were going to be producing seeds that would need to reproduce, that's one thing, but most commercial crops nowadays are sterile.
We have lately had introduced a plant of the Melon species which, from it's external resemblance to the pumpkin, we have called a pumpkin, distinguishing it specifically as the potatoe-pumpkin, on account of the extreme resemblance of it's taste to that of the sweet-potatoe. It is as yet but little known, is well esteemed at our table, and particularly valued by our negroe's.
#29. To: HOUNDDAWG (#10)
That's a killin' offense!
My friend is building a farm for aquaculture (maybe for Tilapia) down state and he had several bee colonies on his property, and someone, presumably a nearby farmer sprayed them with Raid and left the empty cans strewn around the now dead colonies.
"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"
#30. To: Axenolith (#29)
He was very calm about it. I'd have been raving and taking the Lord's name in vain and stuff....
#31. To: HOUNDDAWG (#10)
what are these 'pollination fees'? Please explain inasmuch as we raised alfalfa on our ranch in Montana and as I bookkeeper I would know about pollination fees if we had to pay them.
pollination fees were established in the 1950's....
#32. To: HOUNDDAWG (#10)
sad story and a sad state of ignorance and affairs
In Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward's book about the Iraqi war, Plan of Attack, Lt. Gen. Tommy Franks, who was in charge of the operation, famously called Feith the "dumbest f****** guy on the planet."
#33. To: christine (#13)
It infuriates me, too..........as the bees are good for us, and for the sonofabitch trespassin on private property. At the ranch, we had a beekeeper that put out a good number of hives. And he'd come by during the year and collect honey. We were always given jars of honey--half gallon size--6 of them. Alfalfa honey is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good. Sadly, one year we had the '100 year flood' and the river overflowed its banks and got into the area where the hives were==at the edge of the woods, and wiped out most all the lowest hives before the brothers could get them all collected and to safety. There were some very unhappy bees;; I was glad it was them working with them and not us.
#34. To: Indrid Cold (#19)
When did the farmers cut their alfalfa? Did they get more than one cutting? We were always told the ideal time to cut was when you had 10% bloom. Told by Ag agents as well as other producers.
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
That time of year thou mayst in me behold
When yellow leaves, or none, or few, do hang
Upon those boughs which shake against the cold,
Bare ruin'd choirs, where late the sweet birds sang.
In me thou seest the twilight of such day
As after sunset fadeth in the west,
Which by and by black night doth take away,
Death's second self, that seals up all in rest.
In me thou see'st the glowing of such fire
That on the ashes of his youth doth lie,
As the death-bed whereon it must expire
Consumed with that which it was nourish'd by.
This thou perceivest, which makes thy love more strong,
To love that well which thou must leave ere long.
We have lately had introduced a plant of the Melon species which, from it's external resemblance to the pumpkin, we have called a pumpkin, distinguishing it specifically as the potatoe-pumpkin, on account of the extreme resemblance of it's taste to that of the sweet-potatoe. It is as yet but little known, is well esteemed at our table, and particularly valued by our negroe's.
#36. To: Tauzero (#35)
SWEET Auburn! loveliest village of the plain, Where health and plenty cheered the laboring swain, Where smiling spring its earliest visit paid, And parting summer's lingering blooms delay'd: Dear lovely bowers of innocence and ease, Seats of my youth, when every sport could please, How often have I loiter'd o'er thy green, Where humble happiness endear'd each scene! How often have I paused on every charm, The shelter'd cot, the cultivated farm, The never-failing brook, the busy mill, The decent church that topt the neighboring hill,
#37. To: rowdee (#31) (Edited)
When you see a news story about a tractor trailer filled with bee hives overturned on a highway, those bees were being moved to an area to pollinate, such as almonds, watermelons, faba beans and citrus crops. Bee keepers get paid for that. "The use of managed honey bee colonies for commercial crop pollination remains the most important function of the PNW beekeeping industry. The vast and diverse agriculture of the PNW relies on a healthy and strong beekeeping industry to maintain optimum production. An enhanced knowledge of pollination economics is critical to every beekeeper that enters into the world of commercial crop pollination. It is also important for those growers who rent colonies to understand current economic conditions of the beekeeping industry." http://members.aol.com/beetools/99polin.htm "More than a million hives will pour in to the almond orchards. The almond industry is booming, and growers expect they'll need closer to 2 million hives to pollinate all the new trees that will start bearing nuts by 2010. That means 80 percent of the approximately 2.3 million commercial bee colonies that exist now in the United States will have to travel to the California orchards just to meet demand." http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6299480 During the off season bee keepers take their bees to places like your state where land is cheaper to let them make honey from clover. So, if a bee keeper is nearby he is benefiting from you and vice versa and no fees apply. from the link above: "Then, many head back home with their bees to places like the Dakotas or Montana -- where land is cheaper -- for an intense summer of honey-making during clover season."
what are these 'pollination fees'? Please explain inasmuch as we raised alfalfa on our ranch in Montana and as I bookkeeper I would know about pollination fees if we had to pay them.
#38. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#27)
Natural selection by (fill in your favorite rifle) is also a possibility. ;0)
Food will only be available to those who can afford it. Monetary natural selection will take place.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#39. To: rowdee (#34)
Around here they get 2, maybe 3 cuttings, but over in Western SD they'd only get one. And yes, they try to cut juuuuuust before it blooms.
When did the farmers cut their alfalfa? Did they get more than one cutting?
The national nightmare has ended... Now begins two years of watching the Congress play "Kick the Gimp".
#40. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)
LOL...........for some reason I was trying to wrap my mind around some fee for each of these little buggers! Sort of a tax! The fellas who had their hives at our place were there for a zillion years--certainly with the ranch owners before us. I hated to see them pull out, but then we didn't have any other place to put them without being a problem. For instance, we used 3 and 4 inch handlines to irrigate. Couldn't have the hives in the line of fire, er water, nor have them where a lot of human activity occured out of concern for being stung. So, right at the edge of the wooded area was perfect--easy access for them to the hives, and we could irrigate, and our cattle steered clear of the hives, and we never got stung. The only sting I ever received at the ranch was when the damnmed hogs got out and were rootin around in a pile of straw and stirred up some hornets....them bastards blamed me. I wound up with about 20 stingson my head and shoulders before I could get in the barn. Never realized I could run that fast! My husband was at the very north end of our north field, with a tractor running, and he heard my screams.
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Too bad it's not yellow jackets.
I've already said too much.
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