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Title: Can We Start A Movie Recommendation Club??
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URL Source: http://thejerk.com
Published: Feb 16, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-02-16 23:05:52 by tom007
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Comments: 45

We don't have cable etc, so 99% of our tube watching time is library videos. I watch alot of travel videos, and they can be interesting or total duds.

I know there is a huge body of experience out there that can recommend high quality productions, most all far more proficent than I.

And someone mentioned "The Weeping Camel" (sic) recently which. to me, was a remarkable film, and JUST the sort of film I want to watch.

So I ask that the forum recommends some of their choices of material that is excellent and may very well be overlooked masterpices, as the weeping camel surely is, for my edification as well as others.

I'll Start:

1) The entire "Horatio Hornblower" series

2) "Bride and predjudice", Bollywood and so much fun

3) National Geo's "The Weeping Camel" (sic) utterly wonderful 4)Most "Lonely Planet" Travel videos

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

Have you seen How I won the war?

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-16   23:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Dakmar (#1)

Nope. I figure they make more great movies every day than I watch. I just don't want to waste my time with the dogs.

Thanks for the recommendation.

tom007  posted on  2007-02-16   23:19:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tom007 (#0)

so you don't want regular movies? you're interested in documentaries and educational type things?

christine  posted on  2007-02-16   23:20:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tom007 (#0)

So I ask that the forum recommends some of their choices of material that is excellent and may very well be overlooked masterpices

"King of New York" - Cristopher Walkin plays a sociopath like no one else can! This movie dates back to the days when Lawence Fishburne still answered to "Larry."

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2007-02-16   23:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tom007 (#2)

A cricket pitch seems the perfect metaphor for curious george' imperial adventure.

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-16   23:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007 (#0)

The Weeping Camel is a great, great movie. I get IFC and The Documentary Channel, so I see a lot of movies of that sort. The ending of that movie really blew me away...I didn't realize they were being literal. Very touching and more important, very real. The little kid is utterly charming.

Others I have seen recently that I liked a lot (some are movies I've seen many times).

New York Doll: The story of Arthur Kane, bass player of the New York Dolls, who disappeared into obscurity, then reappeared just as they reformed for one last hurrah...then tragically died of undiagnosed leukemia. Really well done and moving.

You See Me Laughin': A doc about Fat Possum records and their very weird, very talented, and very authentic artists, particularly R.L. Burnside and Junior Kimbrough, both of whom died recently. You WILL be in the Delta watching this one.

Control Room: Al Jazeera's startup and early coverage of Iraq, when U.S. troops were targeting their reporters.

Fires on the Plain: A really grueling Japanese movie about starved troops on a meaningless island trying to avoid the Americans and find something to eat. Some of them do. Each other. A much better film than it sounds. Probably hard to find now, though. It's from the 1950s. It will make you appreciate each meal for the following two or three weeks.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-02-16   23:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tom007 (#2) (Edited)

i recently bought the old miniseries, Lonesome Dove, from Amazon. have you seen it? it's wonderful. Robert Duval and Diane Lane's characters are especially appealing. i had seen it when it was aired on tv in the 80s and i enjoyed it every bit as much this second time around.

christine  posted on  2007-02-16   23:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine, peetie wheatstraw, indrid cold (#3)

so you don't want regular movies? you're interested in documentaries and educational type things?

Yes - I mean the regular movies are covered already. I am interested in the gems that most are not (how can I say this) interested enough to view because, like my children, it sounds too dull (The Weeping Camel, for ex) yet are tremendously excellent and mind expanding.

I loved seeing the inside of a working Yert in Mongolia (with a eight foot TV dish outside)and how their daily lives revolved around the camels they depended on. The Bollywood "Bride and Predjuice" would have to bring a laff to all here, male and female alike (esp female), and yet I wager no one has seen it. And I can tell you generally what the next phrase is to be in regular movies - NOT THIS ONE.

I really am not asking for a formal catagory, but some responses from the members of really great, overlooked videos.

Just wanting to share the gems that we have stumbled across that no one else may find.

We get nearly all our movies from the library, I am that cheap!! (Pinging Indrid cold)

tom007  posted on  2007-02-16   23:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tom007 (#0)

The Last House on the Left (1972)

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-16   23:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Mekons4 (#6) (Edited)

The ending of that movie really blew me away...I didn't realize they were being literal. V

Me Too BOOO HOOO.

tom007  posted on  2007-02-16   23:36:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tom007, Jethro Tull, orangedog, Mekons4 (#8)

ok. this should be fun. i'm going to get Weeping Camel, King of New York, and one or two that Mekons recommended up there.

christine  posted on  2007-02-16   23:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine, zipporah, robin, diana (#3)

"First In Class" for a funny psudo-documentry. The sister video "Strictly Ballroom" is a Australian work is great. Christine and Zippy, you surely would like this one.

tom007  posted on  2007-02-16   23:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#7)

i recently bought the old miniseries, Lonesome Dove, from Amazon. have you seen it? it's wonderful. Robert Duval and Diane Lane's characters are especially appealing. i had seen it when it was aired on tv in the 80s and i enjoyed it every bit as much this second time around.

Christine, I never saw the miniseries but I read the book. someone lent it to me and said 'you'll love it. it's about a cattle drive' - I was like 'uhhh sure, I'm really into cattle drives.' well, I was wrong. it's in my top 3 novels I've ever read, just a wonderful book. if I can find it, I might just re-read it :)

by the way, I try to never see a movie if I've read the book and liked it. is anyone else like that? somehow it ruins it, and I'm not sure why. for one thing, no one looks the way I pictured them, and of course they have to cut out a lot, I guess, to make a book into a movie. it just never seems right.

kiki  posted on  2007-02-16   23:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tom007 (#0)

"A very long engagement" (French)- anti state- anti war- anti militerist- pro family- pro localism. High production value- unusual for a French film.

"Flight Plan". A not so hidden allegory about 9/11 being an inside job. Foster, the ex-pat, knew exactly what she was doing making this film without coming out and saying it.

"Downfall" (German). If you want to see a pack of scumbag ideologues, political hacks, and Peacocked coward generals- who- after decades of lies, self enrichment, horrific abuse of power, unspeakable crimes- all served up with incredible shameless hubris- realize that all of it is coming to end- that they stand exposed for the criminals they are- with no more trappings of the state or pretense of "law" to hide behind and justify their crimes- then this is the movie. It is delicious to see these scumbags squirm- to see them utterly reduced and exposed for the evil murdering theiving liars they were. Rarely do such evil powerful men ever meet this fate in their lifetimes. Usually- they get monuments and hordes of court scribes to paper over their evil and call their mass murder "tough decisions".

"Brazil". Anti State. Anti Bureaucracy. Covers the use of the false flag op by governments to justify power grabs and poltical repression. Speaks to this decade so much more than it did when it came out in 87.

"Arlington Road"- just get it. You will love it. Jeff bridges- Tim Robbins.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-02-16   23:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Dakmar (#9)

Dakkie how did you know exactly the genere of film I was referring to?? Chainsaws and flying human flesh, yeh that's the ticket. As long as it is French.

tom007  posted on  2007-02-16   23:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Burkeman1 (#14)

"Brazil". Anti State. Anti Bureaucracy. Covers the use of the false flag op by governments to justify power grabs and poltical repression. Speaks to this decade so much more than it did when it came out in 87.

Thanks for this I have been trying to remember to see this for years.

tom007  posted on  2007-02-16   23:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: tom007 (#12)

I'll look for "First in Class", I enjoyed "Strictly Ballroom", although it's been several years.

Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)

robin  posted on  2007-02-16   23:57:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Burkeman1 (#14)

I took my daughter to see Downfall. She walked out of there with her mouth open. Bet when she gets to studying WWII, she'll have a few things to say. A brilliant movie...the acting is amazing. I was claustrophobic for a week.

Brazil is a classic. Terry Gilliam's best work. Not exactly what I was expecting from a former Python.

Haven't seen the rest.

Oh, another recommendation. Hope and Glory, a brit film about a 9-year-old coming of age during the London blitz. He has a different outlook than do his parents and older siblings. He thinks it's WAY COOL. The director makes it seem like you're there, but there's a lot of humor mixed in with the horror.

Not to be a spoiler (so don't read further), but at the end of the movie, they've moved in with relatives in the country, and food is pretty hard to come by with so many people in one house. Grandpa sends the boys out to fish in the nearby lake, a pretty dispiriting trip, but off they go, getting not a nibble. Suddenly a German bomber, trailing smoke, zooms overhead and unloads its bomb into the lake. Presto, a boat full of fish.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-02-16   23:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin (#17)

I'll look for "First in Class", I enjoyed "Strictly Ballroom", although it's been several years.

Ballroom is a little more refined, but the National Dog Show Parody the is "Class" is a little gross at times, but so fitting.

tom007  posted on  2007-02-17   0:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tom007 (#15)

Some of these foriegn films are just wrong!

sometimes there just aren't enough belgians

Dakmar  posted on  2007-02-17   0:01:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: All (#19)

I enjoyed "Strictly Ballroom", although it's been several years.

We just watched it a few days ago and it is one reason why I asked for recommendation of great quirky movies. Try to find the Weeping Camel if you can. There are so many fabulous films out there that don't have the million $$ markering campagin behind them.

tom007  posted on  2007-02-17   0:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: tom007 (#0)

Pan's Labyrinth

Nightwatch (Russian Version)

City Of Lost Children

Downfall

Those are my recommendations on Foreign Film

On Domestic Film

Little Miss Sunshine

Idiocracy

The Departed

The Illusionist

The Prestige

The Jack Of All Trades series.

The Venture Brothers

When it comes to Japanese Animation...

Ergo Proxy

Samurai 7

Speedgrapher

Appleseed

Ghost In The Shell

I have other recommendations, but this is just off the top of my head.

This country's priorities are all fucked up.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-02-17   0:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: tom007 (#0)

BBC/PBS series:
Yes, Minister; Yes, Prime Minister; I, Claudius; Waiting for God; The Young Ones

Flicks:
Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?; The Misfits; Let's Make Love; How to Marry a Millionaire; The Seven Year Itch; Rope; Butterfield 8; The Last Time I Saw Paris; Through a Glass Darkly; The Searchers; Office Space; Fight Club; Training Day; A Night at the Opera; Rumble In The Bronx; Supercop; Pitch Black; Spaceballs; Bananas; Sleeper; The Island; Brazil; The Meaning of Life; Life of Brian; Trainspotting; Shaun of the Dead; Pulp Fiction; Man On Fire

Cannibal flicks:
Ravenous; Parents

"Nordics need not be vain about their own qualifications. It well behooves them to be humble. What we do claim is that the northern European, and particularly Anglo Saxons made this country. Oh yes, the others helped. But that is the full statement of the case. They came to this country because it was already made as an Anglo-Saxon commonwealth... they have not yet greatly changed it. We are determined that they shall not. It is a good country. It suits us. And what we assert is that we are not going to surrender it to somebody else or allow other people, no matter what their merits, to make it something different.” -- Congressman William N. Vaile

Tauzero  posted on  2007-02-17   1:53:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: tom007, all (#0)

OT: For the last 6 years I haven't watched nearly as many flicks as I used to. But recently I stumbled upon the local radio show Those Were The Days -- all old-time radio stuff. I highly recommend the show, and the compilations they sell. Jack Benny, Burns & Allen, Bob Hope, Amos & Andy. The dramas are pretty neat. The "Holiday" Shows are fantastic -- they were, of course, matter-of-factly Christian broadcasts in a way that would be illegal today.

An absolutely wonderful look at the past, especially for those like me who didn't actually grow up in America, but did get to see the re-runs.

"Nordics need not be vain about their own qualifications. It well behooves them to be humble. What we do claim is that the northern European, and particularly Anglo Saxons made this country. Oh yes, the others helped. But that is the full statement of the case. They came to this country because it was already made as an Anglo-Saxon commonwealth... they have not yet greatly changed it. We are determined that they shall not. It is a good country. It suits us. And what we assert is that we are not going to surrender it to somebody else or allow other people, no matter what their merits, to make it something different.” -- Congressman William N. Vaile

Tauzero  posted on  2007-02-17   2:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: tom007 (#0)

"Napoleon Dynamite" - a quirky very funny film ( quirky as in Little Miss Sunshine)- I've never laughed so hard in my life - all the characters are a hoot - this film has a cult following already.

"Foyle's War"- Masterpiece Theatre series - a mystery series that has as its setting a small British town during WWII - the characters are wonderfully portrayed and the whodunit plotlines always manage to have a surprise twist in the ending.

"Doctor Zhivago" - Masterpiece Theatre version - starring Scottish actor Hans Matheson and Kiera Knightley and Sam Neill. More true to Pasternak's novel in many ways than the original film. Fantastic!

"Bend it Like Beckham" - feel good story about a girl in an Indian family in London and her love of soccer.

"Joyeux Noel" - based on a true story - takes place Christmas eve, WWI, when Scottish, French and German troops in the trenches decide to have a temporary truce for the night.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-02-17   2:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: tom007 (#0)

Gosh there are so many.. hmm .. "Monsoon Wedding" is one of my favorites.. Indian film very good .. not too Bollywood and is a very good film. "Run Lola Run" German film .. a tad offbeat :P Another Indian film "Lagaan" is very good..."Betty Bleu" ..French film

I like rather quirky films.. (surprise :P) such as:

Groundhog Day
The Joy Luck Club
The Piano
The Secretary
The Big Lebowski
Raising Arizona
Being John Malkovich
Also films like "Empire of the Sun"

Zipporah  posted on  2007-02-17   5:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: tom007, all (#0)

Not sure how obscure these are, but I guarantee the quality:

1) Six Degrees of Separation, with Stockard Channing, Donald Sutherland, and Will Smith as a gay con artist, of all things. Really surprising role for Smith, and he does well.

2) Glengarry, Glen Ross. Jack Lemmon, Al Pacino, star in this film version of the stage play. Cameo by Alec Baldwin. If you like dialogue movies, this one's for you.

3) Das Boot, with Jurgen Prochnow and a bunch of other Germans. THE classic WWII submarine movie. Shows the futility of war and the boredom-to-terror cycle of submarine duty.

4) Nixon, with Anthony Hopkins. Shows an inside view of the poor doomed bastard.

5) Citizen Cohn, with James Woods. Woods stars as Roy Cohn, the closeted homosexual and red-baiter of the 1950s.

6) RKO 281, starring some people I can't remember right now. The behind-the-scenes view of the making of "Citizen Kane" and the life of Orson Welles. An HBO picture, it might be a little tricky to find.

7) 21 Grams, with Benecio Del Torres. Life just has a way of getting all fucked up.

8) The Professional, with that French guy, Gary Oldman, and Natalie Portman as jailbait.

9) Like Water for Chocolate (Spanish). Much better than I thought it would be.

10) The 25th Hour, with Edward Norton.

11) Rounders, with Edward Norton and Matt Damon.

12) Fight Club, with Edward Norton and Brad Pitt.

13) Come to think of it, I've just never seen a bad movie with Edward Norton in it.

14) The House of Sand and Fog, with Ben Kingsley. When it's a dog-eat-dog world, somebody's gotta lose. In this movie, it's everyone.

15) The Devil's Rejects, a Rob Zombie film. Surprisingly good, even though I don't really like horror films.

16) Shakes the Clown. Bobcat Goldthwait at his best.

17) Romper Stomper, starring a young Russell Crowe. Aussie movie about skinheads vs. Asians.

18) Autofocus, starring Greg Kinnear and Willem Dafoe. About the sex-filled life of TV's Colonel Hogan, Bob Crane, and his untimely death.

19) The Kid Stays in the Picture (documentary/autobiography). About the life of legendary Hollywood producer Robert Evans. Based on the book, and narrated by Evans.

20) Mr. Bean (TV series), starring Rowan Atkinson. British humor, I think he's on par with Chaplin for "silent" humor.

The national nightmare has ended... Now begins two years of watching the Congress play "Kick the Gimp".

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-02-17   9:51:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: kiki (#13)

no one looks the way I pictured them, and of course they have to cut out a lot, I guess, to make a book into a movie.

i have been disappointed in alot of movies after i've read a book for the same reason, kiki. there have been a few that i think were exceptions though. one that i can think of was "Alive." that was one of the most riveting stories i've ever read. when i saw the movie, i was pleasantly surprised that they did a pretty good cinematic portrayal.

christine  posted on  2007-02-17   10:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Indrid Cold (#27)

The Professional, with that French guy, Gary Oldman, and Natalie Portman as jailbait.

That was some movie. "No women, no children." Blam, blam.

There are apparently two versions, the tame one, and the uncut one, in which apparently the "cleaner" has an affair with Portman.

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-02-17   10:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: tom007 (#0)

"The Weeping Camel" (sic) utterly wonderful

Check out Fatih Akin's "Gegen die Wand/Duvara karsi" (English title: Head On), and Kim Ki-duk's "Bom yeorum gaeul gyeoul geurigo bom" (English title: Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring). Both utterly wonderful. :)

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-02-18   21:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Tauzero (#24)

An absolutely wonderful look at the past, especially for those like me who didn't actually grow up in America

where did you grow up?

christine  posted on  2007-02-25   13:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: kiki (#13)

I try to never see a movie if I've read the book and liked it. is anyone else like that? somehow it ruins it, and I'm not sure why. for one thing, no one looks the way I pictured them, and of course they have to cut out a lot, I guess, to make a book into a movie. it just never seems right.

Amen.

Our imaginations can flesh out a book much better than any film producer ever can...with the possible exception of Gone with the Wind.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-02-25   13:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Zipporah (#26)

The Big Lebowski

I liked that one too.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-02-25   13:49:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: tom007 (#0)

BBC America Enters 'The State Within'

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46624&Disp

http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/thestatewithin/episodes/episode1.shtml

It's a 3-part (or 6 part in smaller bits) BBC America mini-series that may be available on DVD.

I've been meaning to watch Bollywood's Bride and Prejudice.

Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)

robin  posted on  2007-02-25   13:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine, Tauzero (#31)

I think T meant in that America, of the past.

Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)

robin  posted on  2007-02-25   15:06:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine, robin (#31)

where did you grow up?

(cue Budweiser tuba:) When you say Wis-consin! You've said it all.

But robin had the sense I meant.

Overheard at my daughter's parochial school: "One more whine and I'm taking you back into Fellowship Hall."

Tauzero  posted on  2007-02-25   23:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Tauzero, robin (#36)

duh ;)

christine  posted on  2007-02-26   0:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: All, tom007 (#30)

tom, check out this trailer for the Turkish/German film "Gegen die Wand/Head-on" I recommended:

Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point; on le sait en mille choses. ---Blaise Pascal

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-03-09   22:22:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Burkeman1, ALL (#14)

"Flight Plan". A not so hidden allegory about 9/11 being an inside job. Foster, the ex-pat, knew exactly what she was doing making this film without coming out and saying it.

ROTFLOL! Oh brother ...

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-09   22:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: scrapper2 (#25)

"Napoleon Dynamite"

"Foyle's War"

"Doctor Zhivago"

"Bend it Like Beckham"

"Joyeux Noel"

All great!

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-09   23:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: tom007 (#8)

I loved seeing the inside of a working Yert in Mongolia (with a eight foot TV dish outside)and how their daily lives revolved around the camels they depended on.

That's the type of thing I would like.

I haven't seen a movie in a long time.

Usually I like movies other people don't like. I don't like big-budget movies with lots of shooting and car chases and all that. I like movies that have good plots and dialouges, and I like good mysteries.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-09   23:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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