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Title: Microsoft's Gates Urges End to Tech Visa Limits
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle. ... l?type=topNews&storyID=8319150
Published: Apr 27, 2005
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2005-05-01 22:50:33 by RickyJ
Keywords: Microsofts, Limits, Gates
Views: 107
Comments: 7

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States should remove visa limits to allow more skilled foreign citizens to work at U.S. companies if it wants to remain a leader in technology, Microsoft Corp. (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) Chairman Bill Gates said on Wednesday.

Microsoft is having a hard time finding skilled workers within the United States, and the lack of H-1B visas for skilled workers is only making the situation worse, Gates said in a panel discussion at the Library of Congress.

"The whole idea of the H-1B visa thing is, don't let too many smart people come into the country. The whole thing doesn't make sense," Gates said.

Gates echoed the concerns of other business and education leaders who warn that the United States must improve science education and boost spending on research and development to avoid falling behind India, China and other countries that are rapidly gaining ground.

But he reserved his sharpest criticism for the visa caps, which he called "almost a case of a centrally controlled economy."

"If the demand is there, why have the regulation at all?" he said.

Congress capped the number of non-immigrant visas for skilled professionals at 65,000 in 2004 and 2005 in an effort to increase border security and ensure more jobs for home-grown tech workers.

That is a third of the 195,000 work visas issued annually during the high-tech boom years from 2001 to 2003.

The entire quota of H-1B visas was snapped up the first day of the fiscal year last October by U.S. employers anxious to recruit foreigners for jobs in medicine, engineering, education, research and programing, among other fields.

While increasing the number of H-1B visas is important, "we can't be so naive to believe that there is not a very serious border-security problem that we need to deal with," said California Republican Rep. David Dreier, who heads the House Rules Committee.

Undersecretary of Commerce Phil Bond, a top Bush administration technology official, pointed out that the unemployment rate for engineers is above the national average.

But Gates said his company was hiring at all levels, from recent college graduates to those with more advanced skills. "Anybody who's got a good computer-security education, they're not out there unemployed," he said. "We're just not seeing an available labor pool."

Even with the labor shortage, Microsoft plans to keep most of its operations in the United States, Gates said. While the company just opened a research office in Beijing, "our development's going to stay in the United States," he said.

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#1. To: RickyJ (#0)

"The whole idea of the H-1B visa thing is, don't let too many smart people come into the country. The whole thing doesn't make sense," Gates said.

No Gates, you lying sack of shit. The whole idea of the H-1B visa thing is, don't let too many AMERICAN people make it to the middle-class. The whole thing makes perfect sense to UNpatriotic, greedy TRAITORS like you.

robin  posted on  2005-05-01   22:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: RickyJ (#0)

no depth is too low for Gates.

Red Jones  posted on  2005-05-01   22:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: RickyJ (#0)

This is such a giant sack of horse manure that I don't even know where to begin. Here's the whole of the reality of the situation in a nutshell: I'm old enough to remember back to the late 70's when the whole "hi-tech" thing got started. I was at "ground zero", in Silicon Valley at the time. Here's the way it was back then, if you had a freakin' PULSE you could get an interview, and if you had any aptitude you could get into a job doing some kind of programming or design or production or whatever you might have an aptitude for.

No longer. Now they want you to have a triple Ph.D. with a second major Ph.D. to hire you as an assistant code checker. Why? Because they can get those Ph.D's from India and China for a song. By having the H1-B program the industry has distorted the marketplace to the point where real opportunity for Americans is a tiny fraction of what it was. Hi-tech used to be a neat way to make good money, if you had any talent you could do really well for yourself. Now it's just a one-way ticket to the sweatshop world of the "no-life", as in you have no life once you start working. Bah. I'm just glad I don't have to work in that industry any longer, because it ain't any fun nowadays.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2005-05-01   23:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Elliott Jackalope (#3)

I appreciate reading your account, and I know it is true.

Another aspect of this whole thing people forget is that when the Americans were in such demand we were also the ones doing the important work in high- tech. Now that the marketplace for Americans has been destroyed we're no longer doing the important work. Those talented americans who didn't have the credentials, but still got hired were very frequently people who did very valuable work. Today everybody must have super-credentials like you said. This screens the talented americans out believe it or not. and the talented americans were great producers.

Red Jones  posted on  2005-05-01   23:07:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#1)

No Gates, you lying sack of shit.

Preach it!

1776  posted on  2005-05-01   23:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: RickyJ (#0)

"The whole idea of the H-1B visa thing is, don't let too many smart people come into the country. The whole thing doesn't make sense," Gates said.

Now Gates has the nerve to call the people who basically built IT to what it is today, Americans, dumb! Damn, what a jackass. Almost a million had to train these "smart" people to do their jobs in America before they were laid off. If they are so smart Gates, then why did they have to be trained by dumb Americans? M$ and Gates deserves everything that’s coming to them.

RickyJ  posted on  2005-05-01   23:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Elliott Jackalope (#3)

No longer. Now they want you to have a triple Ph.D. with a second major Ph.D. to hire you as an assistant code checker. Why? Because they can get those Ph.D's from India and China for a song.

I know they can get cheap help overseas along with impressive credentials, but that hardly means they are accomplished programmers or even competent ones.

RickyJ  posted on  2005-05-02   14:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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