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Title: BeAChooser Bozo Count at 40 Plus and Counting - A Possible Site Record
Source: Minerva
URL Source: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=45820&Disp=409#C409
Published: Feb 19, 2007
Author: Minerva
Post Date: 2007-02-19 21:59:28 by Minerva
Keywords: None
Views: 27266
Comments: 375

Last night I took a guess at Beachy's bozo count. Today he spilled the beans and indicated that the number I guessed, between 40 and 50, was substantially correct.

Beachy Spills the Beans

What does this mean? Well .... it means he is a piss poor excuse for excuse for an advocate. Nobody takes him serious. This is probably why Goldi booted him.

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Hi Dawgie, where's Askel?

AGAviator  posted on  2007-03-07   9:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

She doesn't post here, and last I saw her she was still over at ewe gno ware.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-03-07   10:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I've decided BAC is into S&M......cause he sure likes having his ass whupped hither and yon!

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rowdee  posted on  2007-03-07   10:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ROTFLMAO!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-03-07   10:47:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

BAC, that's a great picture in 283; it's better than the other one because you're smiling in 283. LOL

Don't worry about these naysayers BAC. I'm still your fan. I read every word you write. and I believe everything you say too. You are a genius.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-03-07   10:50:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you know how many morgues the LA Times included in its total of your 50,000 death certificates you illiterate ass-wipe?

Exactly one

You sure?

Because I quoted one of the authors of the LATimes story, Borzou Daragahi saying "We went to morgues, cemeteries, hospitals, health officials, and we gathered as many statistics as we could on the actual dead bodies, and the number we came up with around June was about at least 50,000."

MorgueS. With an S.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-07   10:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's what bears repeating:

***********

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/press/pr14.php

Iraq Body Count Press Release 16 October 2006

Reality checks: some responses to the latest Lancet estimates

Hamit Dardagan, John Sloboda, and Josh Dougherty

Summary

A new study has been released by the Lancet medical journal estimating over 650,000 excess deaths in Iraq. The Iraqi mortality estimates published in the Lancet in October 2006 imply, among other things, that:

1. On average, a thousand Iraqis have been violently killed every single day in the first half of 2006, with less than a tenth of them being noticed by any public surveillance mechanisms;

2. Some 800,000 or more Iraqis suffered blast wounds and other serious conflict-related injuries in the past two years, but less than a tenth of them received any kind of hospital treatment;

3. Over 7% of the entire adult male population of Iraq has already been killed in violence, with no less than 10% in the worst affected areas covering most of central Iraq;

4. Half a million death certificates were received by families which were never officially recorded as having been issued;

5. The Coalition has killed far more Iraqis in the last year than in earlier years containing the initial massive "Shock and Awe" invasion and the major assaults on Falluja.

And this:

If these assertions are true, they further imply:

* incompetence and/or fraud on a truly massive scale by Iraqi officials in hospitals and ministries, on a local, regional and national level, perfectly coordinated from the moment the occupation began;

* bizarre and self-destructive behaviour on the part of all but a small minority of 800,000 injured, mostly non-combatant, Iraqis;

* the utter failure of local or external agencies to notice and respond to a decimation of the adult male population in key urban areas;

* an abject failure of the media, Iraqi as well as international, to observe that Coalition-caused events of the scale they reported during the three-week invasion in 2003 have been occurring every month for over a year.

In the light of such extreme and improbable implications, a rational alternative conclusion to be considered is that the authors have drawn conclusions from unrepresentative data. In addition, totals of the magnitude generated by this study are unnecessary to brand the invasion and occupation of Iraq a human and strategic tragedy.

**************

Good reasons why the John Hopkins studies are BOGUS.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-07   11:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You pathetic turd.

perfect.

christine  posted on  2007-03-07   11:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You pathetic turd.

perfect.

Christine, I hope you realize that this level of response is exactly what I expected when I began posting here at FD4UM. And you may not realize this, but it doesn't paint a very pretty picture to folks who might *stumble* upon this site.

And by the way, did you see the quote I offered from one of the authors of the LATimes article stating that they visited morgueS, with an S? Wonder what AGAviator will say to that?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-07   11:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

maybe if you'd give us some more pictures of yourself besides the 2 you already gave us, then we could put them up and attract some new people.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-03-07   11:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Christine, I hope you realize that this level of response is exactly what I expected when I began posting here at FD4UM. And you may not realize this, but it doesn't paint a very pretty picture to folks who might *stumble* upon this site.

Fuck you, BAC!

Christine is light-years ahead of your "Goldi," why insult her with "Goldi" appeals?

Go away. No other person has ever incited such appropriate vitriol with their presence, as you have.

Take a hint, asshole!

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-07   13:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Go away. No other person has ever incited such appropriate vitriol with their presence, as you have.

Take a hint, asshole

Hear Hear!

All together now brothers and sisters!

"Buh Bye BeAFluffer!"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-03-07   14:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Go away. No other person has ever incited such appropriate vitriol with their presence, as you have.

Take a hint, asshole

Hear Hear!

I remember whole threads devoted to the topic of my not daring to come over here and debate FD4UMers.

So here I am. And as any reader of this forum can see, I've been very courteous.

No labels, no name calling.

Just sourced facts and logic that don't seem to jibe with what FD4UMers have been posting.

Now FD4UMers could challenge those facts and logic with credible sourced articles and logic of their own.

But for the most part they haven't done that.

Instead, the general response has been to use the bozo filter in large numbers and call for my banning.

Along with throwing out mountains of adhominems.

And now they've begun begging me to leave.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-07   15:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And now they've begun begging me to leave.

No one is "begging' - just fucking leave, asshole! Christine may be fair to an extreme, but that doesn't make you anything but a verbose and slimy coward/traitor.

You're every bit the coward Diana describes, no one knows where you live, or what you look like. No doubt that's smart of you, as that's what cowards and queers do.

Just fucking leave, BAC. Goldi didn't ban you; that was all an illusion, designed to fabricate the 'character,' which you lack. You still have a home at ElPee.

"Get back, Beocho!
Get back to where you belong."

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-07   17:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And now they've begun begging me to leave.

And, I'm sorry for that.

In fact, nothing would please me more than for you to suddenly decide that caring about our feelings is more important than being right.

If you choose to be a skillful but polite and respectful debater, then you'd be a stimulating and welcome addition to the forum.

And, this would benefit you no matter where you go because, like it or not it's a quirk of human nature that if you put someone you're debating on the defensive you lose by default, and your present style is winning no converts and even fewer friends.

If you're having fun and don't care about us then by all means continue.

But, it's my nature to try and fix things, and I had to reach out at least once before striking a line through your name forever.

How about it?

Is there some really good reason why we can't be friends? If not then, if you start treating the people with whom you've had some rancorous and unpleasant exchanges with respect then we can start all over and perhaps benefit each other. I don't really believe that you feel superior to anyone, and in fact it will be an unnecessary defensive tactic if you are willing to give my suggestion a try.

Are you?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-03-07   18:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Now FD4UMers could challenge those facts and logic with credible sourced articles and logic of their own.

But for the most part they haven't done that.

Repetition does not make truth, fuck-face. Simply because you CHOOSE to SPAM the board with material that conflicts with other material posted here (and usually reality, one might add), proves nothing other than your obsessiveness for and/or devotion to USFedGov. Tell a lie often enough...where have I heard that before?

If you look carefully at my lips, you'll realize that I'm actually saying something else. I'm not actually telling you about the several ways I'm gradually murdering Joan. - Tom Frost

Dakmar  posted on  2007-03-07   18:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

well said, dak. everyone else but the delusional government toady can see his ass has been kicked a hundred ways to sunday on this forum. it's also apparent to most that he's a collossal waste of time.

christine  posted on  2007-03-07   19:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

it's also apparent to most that he's a collossal waste of time.

I fear that one of BAC's disinformation missions is to establish the 4-um as a politically watered-down and "controversial" asset, thereby insulating its factual value as a serious journalistic source, relative to topics such as 9-11 and the various "Bush" War Crimes.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't move for a banning, but I'd make an exception in cases such as BAC's. He is reasonably talented, at what he does.

My two-cent's worth, on the topic.

.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-07   19:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's good training for spotting propaganda elsewhere. While I'm against banning, I think it might be a hoot to make his posting here contingent upon answering questions. It would take a hell of a lot of moderating though, and I can understand why no one would wish to subject themselves to that.

If you look carefully at my lips, you'll realize that I'm actually saying something else. I'm not actually telling you about the several ways I'm gradually murdering Joan. - Tom Frost

Dakmar  posted on  2007-03-07   19:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Truth is truth and cannot be shouted down, although it can be drowned out at times. I actually think BAC is funny, in an Orwellian sort of way. You have to admit, it feels good to trounce his think-tank lies, spin, and talking points. He serves a purpose here, I think. He is our perennial omega bitch.

If you look carefully at my lips, you'll realize that I'm actually saying something else. I'm not actually telling you about the several ways I'm gradually murdering Joan. - Tom Frost

Dakmar  posted on  2007-03-07   19:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'd like to see at least a 30-day suspension for BAC; with the understanding that he'll come back in the "spam-free" mode; or else. If BAC could stay "spam- free" for Goldi, he can do so for the 4-um.

Why 30 days? Because I think whatever is going to happen in Iran will take place in that window - and we don't need the likes of BAC to muddle the issues.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-07   19:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Say, BAC, there's a "person" with your posting and response style over at ElPee - "Sweetjustusnow;" is that really you?

A simple yes/no is sufficient. We know you never lie, you lying piece of shit, you.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-07   20:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you choose to be a skillful but polite and respectful debater,

You mean like these folks?

Minerva - starts a thread titled "BeAChooser Bozo Count at 40 Plus and Counting - A Possible Site Record"

orangedog - Ignore him to death and he'll fade away like a bad fart.

Red Jones - BAC is the guy on the left.

Diana - He's a bad egg.

Diana - There is no intellect present in an exceedingly dishonest poster with a very questionable agenda.

SKYDRIFTER - I've long accused BAC of being queer

rowdee - Di, dear lady, just tell the bastard to go fuck himself and get it over with!

rowdee - Being the nice sweet lady you are makes this turd-faced jerkoff bolder.

IndieTX - Low intellect, psychotic, no talent..paranoid..delusions of grandeur [save the world from kooks] and perhaps, "sexually disoriented" = Chimp = Insane.

Nostalgia - The fucker's maniacal with that ROTFLOL!

Elliot Jackalope - Just make him a dustmop suit, and let him post in a room that needs the floors cleaned.....

SKYDRIFTER - you Mossadite piece of shit,

scrapper2 - Eat it.

christine - well done, honway. see this is the kind of information which is being exposed because of the sad little specimen of a troll.

innieway - "I'M DONE WITH YOUR SATANIST ASS

Jethro Tull - Dump his Zionist, blood dancing ass.

scrapper2 - I swear, BAC, you continually show yourself to be an unparalleled numbskull.

scrapper2 - Look oozer I would rather walk into traffic than "give up" to a tardbotshill like yourself.

IndieTX - I think the closet is where he hides his pics of Jeff Gannon.

AGAviator - Flock you, troll.

SKYDRIFTER - answer the question, Fuck-Head!

AGAviator - you illiterate ass-wipe

HOUNDDAWG - And, BeAFluffer, now that AGAviator has nailed your ass to the outhouse door I think I'll just walk away with my nose in the air, and ROTFLMAO!

AGAviator - You pathetic turd.

christine - perfect.

SKYDRIFTER - Fuck you, BAC!

SKYDRIFTER - Take a hint, asshole

HOUNDDAWG - Hear Hear!

SKYDRIFTER - No one is "begging' - just fucking leave, asshole!

Dakmar - Repetition does not make truth, fuck-face.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-08   1:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

well said, dak. everyone else but the delusional government toady can see his ass has been kicked a hundred ways to sunday on this forum. it's also apparent to most that he's a collossal waste of time.

Then you'll have no problem with me posting. It can only make you folks look even smarter.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-08   1:04:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Say, BAC, there's a "person" with your posting and response style over at ElPee - "Sweetjustusnow;" is that really you?

No. Unlike you, SKYDRIFTER, I have never tried to sneak onto a forum or post from multiple accounts simultaneously.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-08   1:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Unlike you, SKYDRIFTER, I have never tried to sneak onto a forum or post from multiple accounts simultaneously.

Yeah, you do lack imagination and initiative. I'll give you that.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-08   1:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It can only make you folks look even smarter.

"We" demonstrate the element of integrity which you gave up, long ago.

You really suck the big one, BAC!

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-08   1:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You know your place, don't you, BAC?

You're that bad. Really bad!

Now, why don't you be a good lad and just fucking leave?

(Ah, your handlers won't let you - okay!)

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-08   1:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you know how many morgues the LA Times included in its total of your 50,000 death certificates you illiterate ass-wipe?

Exactly one

You sure?

Yes I'm sure.

Add 30,000+ from the Baghdad morgue and another 19,000+ from the Health Ministry which counts hospitals, and what you come with?

They break down their 50,000 total right in the middle of the article. Baghdad morgue + Health Ministry = 50,000.

Because I quoted one of the authors of the LATimes story, Borzou Daragahi saying "We went to morgues, cemeteries, hospitals, health officials, and we gathered as many statistics as we could on the actual dead bodies, and the number we came up with around June was about at least 50,000."

At least 50,000, dummy. The 50,000 number that you have been spamming does not include any "at leasts."

MorgueS. With an S.

They may have *visited* morgues, but they did not *count* the totals of the morgues in their 50,000 total that you have been spamming.

Any more dumb questions?

AGAviator  posted on  2007-03-08   1:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

scrapper2 - I swear, BAC, you continually show yourself to be an unparalleled numbskull.

scrapper2 - Look oozer I would rather walk into traffic than "give up" to a tardbotshill like yourself.

Geez Louise you take yourself so seriously, BAC - this is the net, boy - suck it up or move on - who cares what scrapper says to BeAChooser or vice versa - we don't know each other - how do you cope with real life's ills and real life meanies, I wonder...

So you think my comments are impolite?

Well, let's do a walk down memory lane and put my comments in context - uh huh, if truth be told, since you inflicted me ( and others) with reams and reams of your BOT weekly standard, newsmax spam, I think most people "out there" in cyberspace and maybe even the judges at the International Court of Justice would rule that my remarks showed remarkable restraint considering what I suffered through this long neverending discussion thread.

You're twice my weight ( though half my IQ) so we're even - quit your whining, BAC. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-03-08   1:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's what bears repeating:

What bears repeating is that the 50,000 number you've been spamming for months is only one morgue, and some guesstimates by the Iraq Health Ministry covering two years.

Furthermore, almost none of those of those bodies that showed up in the Baghdad morgue and the Iraq hospitals were killed by American or Iraqi government soldiers.

So you can add deaths caused by Americans and their Iraqi surrogates to that 50,000 number.

Reason?

Who in his right mind can imagine a military unit killing people, then carefully picking up the bodies, driving across town through potential ambushes with them, then giving them to hospitals amd morgues where it's possible some doctors would discover - or claim to discover- evidence of war crimes in autopsies?

Just about anybody who gets killed by military units stays right where he died, unless some relatives or some passers by decide to do something about the bodies laying there.

Another reason your 50,000 total is bogus.

AGAviator  posted on  2007-03-08   1:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'd like to see at least a 30-day suspension for BAC; with the understanding that he'll come back in the "spam-free" mode; or else. If BAC could stay "spam- free" for Goldi, he can do so for the 4-um.

I've got a better idea.

Every time BeABozo demands proof of something that is factually obvious and should not need any proof - like Iraqi doctors being able to write death certificates -

Then, when the item in question is objectively proved beyond any reasonable doubt, BeABozo gets a suspension or a termination.

"ROTFLOL!!!"

AGAviator  posted on  2007-03-08   1:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Now FD4UMers could challenge those facts and logic with credible sourced articles and logic of their own.

But for the most part they haven't done that

Whenever you get faced with facts you cannot deal with, you bend over backwards to disort what the other person says as I've already pointed out to you several times.

Another one of your tricks is to demand further proof when you have been rebutted.

You apparently believe that as long as you can post you haven't been rebutted.

AGAviator  posted on  2007-03-08   1:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Anybody who repeatedly distorts what others say the way you do, and thinks that hundreds of thousands of deaths is funny - as in your incessant, inane "ROTFLOL's" - is a "pathetic turd" beyond any doubt.

So up yours, twerp [Gritting teeth in attempt to be civil].

AGAviator  posted on  2007-03-08   1:53:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To: HOUNDDAWG, ALL

If you choose to be a skillful but polite and respectful debater,

You mean like these folks?

Minerva - starts a thread titled "BeAChooser Bozo Count at 40 Plus and Counting - A Possible Site Record"

orangedog - Ignore him to death and he'll fade away like a bad fart.

Red Jones - BAC is the guy on the left.

Diana - He's a bad egg.

Diana - There is no intellect present in an exceedingly dishonest poster with a very questionable agenda.

SKYDRIFTER - I've long accused BAC of being queer

rowdee - Di, dear lady, just tell the bastard to go fuck himself and get it over with!

rowdee - Being the nice sweet lady you are makes this turd-faced jerkoff bolder.

IndieTX - Low intellect, psychotic, no talent..paranoid..delusions of grandeur [save the world from kooks] and perhaps, "sexually disoriented" = Chimp = Insane.

Nostalgia - The fucker's maniacal with that ROTFLOL!

Elliot Jackalope - Just make him a dustmop suit, and let him post in a room that needs the floors cleaned.....

SKYDRIFTER - you Mossadite piece of shit,

scrapper2 - Eat it.

christine - well done, honway. see this is the kind of information which is being exposed because of the sad little specimen of a troll.

innieway - "I'M DONE WITH YOUR SATANIST ASS

Jethro Tull - Dump his Zionist, blood dancing ass.

scrapper2 - I swear, BAC, you continually show yourself to be an unparalleled numbskull.

scrapper2 - Look oozer I would rather walk into traffic than "give up" to a tardbotshill like yourself.

IndieTX - I think the closet is where he hides his pics of Jeff Gannon.

AGAviator - Flock you, troll.

SKYDRIFTER - answer the question, Fuck-Head!

AGAviator - you illiterate ass-wipe

HOUNDDAWG - And, BeAFluffer, now that AGAviator has nailed your ass to the outhouse door I think I'll just walk away with my nose in the air, and ROTFLMAO!

AGAviator - You pathetic turd.

christine - perfect.

SKYDRIFTER - Fuck you, BAC!

SKYDRIFTER - Take a hint, asshole

HOUNDDAWG - Hear Hear!

SKYDRIFTER - No one is "begging' - just fucking leave, asshole!

Dakmar - Repetition does not make truth, fuck-face

Okay, then, you admit that this is no longer about debate but rather your attempt to get even for wounds to your fragile ego?

Assuming I could have secured your agreement to make peace it would be the good people here who would be forgiving you, more than vice versa.

I'd be willing to bet that you were obnoxious first, relentlessly and unnecessarily before anyone turned on you. But, I'm not going to research that because your problem is now obvious.

And, I had to at least try.

You don't bother me and in the end I promise it will be you who is gone, not any of your "tormentors". So, it's your loss that you didn't apologize and allow me to try and make peace on your behalf.

Time out is over, people.

He's all yours. _________________________________________---

BTW, I had to quote BAC's entire post for the benefit of the dozens of folks who have him Bozo'ed.

And, at a place like 4 that is the mark of shame.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-03-08   3:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There is no evidence that BAC is here to investigate or honestly debate the facts. His history on LP and now here is one of only distortion and disinfo, always siding with the Bush regime and GOP talking points; for example, his two recent threads on the "innocence" of convicted Scooter Libby. Or the smearing of anyone who presents facts that make the Bush regime look bad, like Lt. Col Karen Kwiatkowski. In this post, rowdee displays the disinfo tactics employed by BAC, to try and make Karen Kwiatkowski appear inaccurate.

Since it is unlikely that anyone would waste their time doing this for free, it is a safe assumption that he is a paid shill. On LP, patriots who tried to present the truth were threatened with being "reported" by posters just like BAC. For example, Beckett Saunders, even posted that he was paid to report on posters. So, putting such posters on Bozo, is really very reasonable.

Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)

robin  posted on  2007-03-08   4:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'd be willing to bet that you were obnoxious first, relentlessly and unnecessarily before anyone turned on you. But, I'm not going to research that because your problem is now obvious.

This thread itself is a perfect example of BeABozo's demagoguery.

(S)he has continually repeated assertions about "missing death certificates" ad nauseum complete with the inane "ROTFLOL's" almost any time hundreds of thousands of potential deaths are mentioned.

But when a critical piece of factual evidence emerges - namely that his/her most basic assumption that only hospitals and morgues can issue death certificates is totally false - (s)he implies the source is lying and demands proof.

With no support from posters, (s)he addresses remarks to a pretend audience of non-posters and claims to be winning the discussion.

Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser

AGAviator  posted on  2007-03-08   10:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The 50,000 number that you have been spamming does not include any "at leasts."

Actually, I've made it quite clear numerous times that I don't object to the notion the number is twice or even three times that. Just not ten times that number. Because the evidence (and logic) simply does not support that assertion.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-08   13:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I've got a better idea. Every time BeABozo demands proof of something that is factually obvious and should not need any proof - like Iraqi doctors being able to write death certificates -

Is it factually obvious that the media (including media that is decidedly friendly with the *resistance*) would love nothing better than to show the US slaughtered more than half a million Iraqis and covered it up? Is it factually obvious that the media (including media that is decidely unfriendly to the US) hasn't documented such a slaughter? No photos. No videos.

Is it factually obvious that half a million slaughtered Iraqis would fill quite a few cemeteries and mass graves? Is it factually obvious that scores of forensic types in Iraq who are scouring Iraq looking for bodies and graves, many of whom haven't been all that friendly to the US in the past, haven't found any traces of this supposed slaughter?

Is it factually obvious that not one named Iraqi doctor has come forward to say they wrote a hundred (or hundreds) of death certificates and never bothered to notify anyone?

Is it factually obvious that a slaughter of this magnitude would require significantly depopulating areas of the country where it's claimed the violence has predominantly been? Is it factually obvious that those areas haven't been significantly depopulated or at least no one in the media or any other source has reported that depopulation?

Then, when the item in question is objectively proved beyond any reasonable doubt, BeABozo gets a suspension or a termination.

Ignoring the fact that you haven't proven anything "beyond any reasonable doubt", much less a little doubt, does that suggestion of yours work both ways?

For example, when SKYDRIFTER claims the hole in the pentagon was only 17 or 20 feet in diameter, and photos show that is totally untrue, does he get a suspension or termination?

And how about you ... for example, when you insist repeatedly that a certain graph shows housing prices dropping 16 percent in a year, and it doesn't, what happens?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-08   13:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Okay, then, you admit that this is no longer about debate but rather your attempt to get even for wounds to your fragile ego?

I haven't admitted that. What I did is post quotes that you seem to think are respectful debate. I'll let visitors to FD4UM decide if you are right.

You don't bother me and in the end I promise it will be you who is gone,

A promise? Usually one makes promises when one can guarantee something. Can you guarantee this? Do you have some *in* with FD4UM's management? And why will that happen? Because of my posting factual articles and sound logic that don't follow the FD4UM party line? Because I remain civil in the face of such *respectful* *debators*?

BTW, I had to quote BAC's entire post for the benefit of the dozens of folks who have him Bozo'ed. And, at a place like 4 that is the mark of shame.

Shame? Do you think folks can make good decisions or know the facts when they listen to only half the arguments? ROTFLOL!

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-08   13:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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