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Title: Islam in Romania - how a DEFEATED Christian Nation Kept Islam Out for 500 Years
Source: Wikipedia
URL Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Romania
Published: Feb 20, 2007
Author: Wikipedia
Post Date: 2007-02-20 12:27:34 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Comments: 6

Wallachia and Moldavia

In the two Danubian Principalities, where Muslims could not purchase property, and Muslim Nogais from the Bujak who were captured in skirmishes counted as slaves (alongside all Roma), Ottoman influence led to a few conversions in the ranks of hospodars: Princes Radu cel Frumos (1462-1475) and Mihnea Turcitul (1577-1591) of Wallachia, and Prince Ilie II Rare_ (1546-1551) of Moldavia. Khotyn, once part of Moldavia, was the birthplace of Alemdar Mustafa Pasha, who was the Ottoman Grand Vizier until 1808. Two more Grand Viziers between 1821 and 1828 came from Bender (a once Moldavian city), as Benderli Pashas.

The pattern of a scarce or seasonal presence of Muslims (Turkish traders, small communities of Muslim Roma)[3] in the two countries can be traced back to the Capitulations (Ottoman Turkish: ahdnâme) agreed in the Middle Ages between the two states and the Ottoman Empire.1 The documents themselves have not been preserved, but their provisions toward Muslim-Christian relations have been assessed by taking in view later policies - Muslim Ottomans could not purchase property on the Principalities' territory, nor could they marry Christians or build mosques.[4] This indicates that the Principalities were regarded by the Ottomans as belonging to the Dâr al ahd' ("Home of Peace"); the Ottoman Empire could not maintain troops or garrisons or build military facilities,[5] although this provision appears to have been discarded during later Phanariote rules and the frequent Russo-Turkish Wars.[6]

Muslims were awarded legal status after 1878, and in 1923 a monument in the shape of a small mosque was built in Bucharest's Carol Park, as sign of reconciliation after World War I.

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#1. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

"Don't let the sun set on you nigger."

I am glad I went to the Fair. I saw many interesting things and learned much of the white people. They are a very kind and peaceful people. During all the time I was at the Fair no one tried to harm me in any way. Had this been among the Mexicans I am sure I should have been compelled to defend myself often. -- Geronimo

Tauzero  posted on  2007-02-20   12:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tauzero (#1)

In the two Danubian Principalities, where Muslims could not purchase property, and Muslim Nogais from the Bujak who were captured in skirmishes counted as slaves (alongside all Roma)

Note the absence of a 'catch and release' program those days.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-02-20   12:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tauzero, a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

"Don't let the sun set on you nigger."

That's "nigga". Your street cred just dropped 2 points.

Muslim Ottomans could not purchase property on the Principalities' territory, nor could they marry Christians or build mosques.

Keeping Muslims out GOOD. Keeping God's Chosen Darlings out HATE.

bluegrass  posted on  2007-02-20   15:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Weren't Transylvania, Wallachia, and Moldavia semi-independent principalities?

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2007-02-20   16:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluegrass (#3)

Ah, but I bet the sign was more common in the North...

I am glad I went to the Fair. I saw many interesting things and learned much of the white people. They are a very kind and peaceful people. During all the time I was at the Fair no one tried to harm me in any way. Had this been among the Mexicans I am sure I should have been compelled to defend myself often. -- Geronimo

Tauzero  posted on  2007-02-20   16:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: bluegrass (#3)

Keeping God's Chosen Darlings out HATE.

"To us it is a matter of surprise and astonishment, that men with the word 'peace, peace,' continually on their lips, should be so fond of living under and supporting a government, and at the same time calling it 'happy,' which is never better pleased than when a war- that has filled India with carnage and famine, Africa with slavery, and tampered with Indians and negroes to cut the throats of the freemen of America. We conceive it a disgrace to this State, to harbor or wink at such palpable hypocrisy. But as we seek not to hurt the hair of any man's head, when we can make ourselves safe without, we wish such persons to restore peace to themselves and us, by removing themselves to some part of the king of Great Britain's dominions, as by that means they may live unmolested by us and we by them; for our fixed opinion is, that those who do not deserve a place among us, ought not to have one.

...

The most cavilling sectarian cannot accuse the foregoing with containing the least ingredient of persecution. The free spirit on which the American cause is founded, disdains to mix with such an impurity, and leaves it as rubbish fit only for narrow and suspicious minds to grovel in. Suspicion and persecution are weeds of the same dunghill, and flourish together. Had the Quakers minded their religion and their business, they might have lived through this dispute in enviable ease, and none would have molested them. The common phrase with these people is, 'Our principles are peace.' To which may be replied, and your practices are the reverse; for never did the conduct of men oppose their own doctrine more notoriously than the present race of the Quakers. They have artfully changed themselves into a different sort of people to what they used to be, and yet have the address to persuade each other that they are not altered; like antiquated virgins, they see not the havoc deformity has made upon them, but pleasantly mistaking wrinkles for dimples, conceive themselves yet lovely and wonder at the stupid world for not admiring them.

Did no injury arise to the public by this apostacy of the Quakers from themselves, the public would have nothing to do with it; but as both the design and consequences are pointed against a cause in which the whole community are interested, it is therefore no longer a subject confined to the cognizance of the meeting only, but comes, as a matter of criminality, before the authority either of the particular State in which it is acted, or of the continent against which it operates. Every attempt, now, to support the authority of the king and Parliament of Great Britain over America, is treason against every State; therefore it is impossible that any one can pardon or screen from punishment an offender against all."

-- Thomas Paine, American Crisis

I am glad I went to the Fair. I saw many interesting things and learned much of the white people. They are a very kind and peaceful people. During all the time I was at the Fair no one tried to harm me in any way. Had this been among the Mexicans I am sure I should have been compelled to defend myself often. -- Geronimo

Tauzero  posted on  2007-02-20   17:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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