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Title: Without Security there is no Freedom
Source: none
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Published: Feb 22, 2007
Author: Hayek fan
Post Date: 2007-02-22 18:29:04 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 80
Comments: 7

While on the way to the grocery store, I found myself behind a eunich with a bumbersticker that had the above statement on it. Not surprising, the eunich also had a "W - The President" bumper sticker.

My how the great have fallen. Benjamin Franklin, who said that, "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," is spinning in his grave.

The citizens of the United States are like the immoral, degenerate, and pampered nobility of 16th and 17th nobility, who were noblemen only because of the bravery of their earlier medieval relatives.

I am truly ashamed and embarrassed.

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#1. To: Hayek Fan (#0)

The commies would claim that one shouldn't be concerned about the so-called 'right' to free thoughts or free expression of such thoughts while people are exploited and have no right to work. They claimed that communism was superior to capitalism because the people of communism had lots of collective rights which were much more important than the individual rights.

We are moving very, very close to the communist ideal. Only, the communist propaganda was claiming that these collective rights and privileges were only the foundation or the fertile soil from which the future individual liberation will emerge. Today's Bushism claims that collectivism is the goal and individualism must be sacrifice to make collectivism and the security and assurance that come with it possible.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-02-22   18:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

Americans define "security" as being free from concern of even the possibility of harm - however remote, ridiculous, absurd, unfounded, or implausible they may be. Was it possible that the weakling country of Iraq armed with mustard gas and anthrax would attack the United States? Sure. Was even it remotely likely? Nope. But that doesn't matter now. For the US goobermint and feminized America - "Security" has lost all rational definition. For the type of "security" Americans seek- the only solution would be to murder the whole world. Then there would be no more "Threats".

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-02-22   18:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Burkeman1 (#2)

That's why the favorite method, advocated by the so-called 'conservative patriots' is to 'nuke 'em' or to 'turn their country into a parking lot' or to 'bomb them back to the stone age'. All of the above involving little or no risk to the advocates of such actions who expect to support the war effort by shopping more or maybe by placing some kick-ass bumper stickers on their cars.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-02-22   18:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#0)

and pampered nobility of 16th and 17th nobility

oopss. That should have said, "of the 16th and 17th century."

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2007-02-22   18:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

We are moving very, very close to the communist ideal.

Maybe so. In his book, "Road to Serfdom," Hayek warned that a constituational form of government (whether that be a constitutional monarchy or a republic) is not compatible with socialism and that the two combined would produce a monster which would enslave the whole of the people.

We are only seeing the beginning of that process. I weep for my children and grandchildren and curse myself for being unable to do anything about it except rant on a political message board.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2007-02-22   19:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Hayek Fan (#5)

As always, anarchy is likely to prevail over order, eventually, unless there is a God hiding, somewhere. It happens to be yet another big principle of physics, I believe :)

It makes one wonder.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-02-22   19:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Hayek Fan (#5)

Goodness - I thought that you were speaking of Salma - both are great, however.

Thank God for the Renegades

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-02-22   19:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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