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Title: Convicts replace immigrants on Colorado farms
Source: The Guardian
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2024603,00.html
Published: Mar 1, 2007
Author: Dan Glaister
Post Date: 2007-03-01 16:03:32 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 164
Comments: 12

Convicts replace immigrants on Colorado farms



Dan Glaister in Los Angeles
Thursday March 1, 2007
Guardian Unlimited


Immigrant farm workers harvest broccoli on a farm near the border of Colorado and Arizona.
Immigrant farm workers harvest broccoli on a farm near the border of Colorado and Arizona. Photograph: David McNew/Getty Images


A decline in the number of immigrant labourers willing to work in Colorado following the introduction of stringent new laws has led authorities to explore an untapped labour pool: prison inmates.

Under a pilot programme to be launched in the early summer in Colorado's Pueblo county, farmers hope to pay inmates 60c a day to gather the watermelons, pumpkins and onions grown on the region's farmland.

But the plan has stirred up controversy on both sides of the immigration debate. "If they can't get slaves from Mexico, they want them from the jails," Mark Krikorian, of the Centre for Immigration Studies, told the Los Angeles Times.



Farmers in the area say that while they are not happy with the proposal to use inmates to replace the absent immigrant labour, they face little choice.

"Because agriculture has been in the decline in a lot of areas, the workload just piled up on the owners, on the families," Kathleen Curry, a farmer and state legislator told the Pueblo Chieftan. "We can't get the workers that we need, and a lot of folks just end up going out of business."

The new law was introduced to crack down on undocumented migrants receiving state benefits they were not entitled to by making it harder to get a driving licence. But the effect has been to scare away both documented and undocumented migrants.

Few cases of undocumented migrants receiving state aid have been uncovered since the legislation came in to force.

In a meeting with the state's prisons chief, farmers said that both legal and undocumented immigrants were too scared to come to Colorado.

"They've just given up and gone to other states that don't have these new laws," one farmer, Joe Pisciotta, said. "They just don't want to deal with it."

Another farmer, Phil Prutch, said: "We're aware there was a problem, but you just created another problem."

Five farms will be involved in the pilot plan, employing around 100 inmates. The farmers will pay the minimum wage plus any transport costs, although the inmates will only receive the standard prison wage. It is thought to be the first time that inmates will leave prison to work in private industry.

The state's prison authorities hope that the experiment will help to reduce recidivism. "We think that we can provide an opportunity for employment for people in the prison system, and help them to develop some work skills," said representative Dorothy Butcher, who initiated the plan.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Given that there are over 100 million Americans in prison these days, it should be easy to find cons to do the jobs that the illigals won't do no more.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-03-01   16:06:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

As prisons become sources of profit to the State, we can guarantee on thing: There will be more of them.

That's a quote I have on my wall. Look for the expansion of this program nationwide. Then our prison labor can compete with Chinese slave labor, and the devil take the hindmost.

Still think we live in a free country, anyone?

...do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-03-01   16:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

Given that there are over 100 million Americans in prison these days, it should be easy to find cons to do the jobs that the illigals won't do no more.

Err...

Actually I think it's more like 2 and a half to three million. Still a lot, but not 100 million.

Look for the number to keep going up, though. It's projected to increase by another 200 thousand this year.

...do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-03-01   16:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: bluedogtxn (#2)

Wonderful news, a prison labor force complex, just wonderful. Corporate farms and convict prisoner labor. Pretty soon they will be passing out mandatory 30 and 60 day sentences for first time misdemeanor offenders and second time speeders. Get a pickin' them grapes boy. This country just gets scarier and scarier with each passing day.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-03-01   16:19:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluedogtxn (#2)

It's hard to have a police state, at least in the beginning, unless lots of people are incarcerated. If prisons can be turned into self-sustaining entities then... we could see the number of convicts going up pretty, pretty fast.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-03-01   16:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: bluedogtxn (#2)

A nation where the most petty of crimes and code infractions of all sorts will land one in our sprawling for profit Gulags. But at least we won't have them dirty Mexicans anymore to destroy "our way of life." LOL.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-03-01   16:21:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Burkeman1 (#4)

This country just gets scarier and scarier with each passing day.

Yes it does. The wonderful feeling of living in Germany in the late '30s.

...do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-03-01   16:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#5)

If prisons can be turned into self-sustaining entities then... we could see the number of convicts going up pretty, pretty fast.

Already happening. Many US govt supplies are made in prisons.

...do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-03-01   16:22:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Well shit, Once we have enough people in our prisons, making products for American Companies at pennies on the dollar, we'll be able to kick China's ass as far as productivity now won't we?

When you have to go to prison, in order to get a job that gives you money, food, and a place to live, you know that the economy has taken a bad turn.

Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-03-01   16:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Burkeman1 (#6)

But at least we won't have them dirty Mexicans anymore to destroy "our way of life." LOL.

When we can enslave our own sons and daughters (well, not "our own", really, just them other side of the tracks kind of folks), we won't need Mexicans picking grapes, and we can seal up the borders real good.

...do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-03-01   16:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#9)

Well shit, Once we have enough people in our prisons, making products for American Companies at pennies on the dollar, we'll be able to kick China's ass as far as productivity now won't we?

Yep. This whole "middle class" thing was a flukey experiment anyway. Let's just go back to the haves and have-nots; the masters and the slaves; the rich and the poor.

Mandatory life for any felony; mandatory two years "on the farm" for any misdemeanors; 60 days for anyone too poor to pay a ticket.

The prison industrial complex in full-swing.

...do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-03-01   16:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#9)

When you have to go to prison, in order to get a job that gives you money, food, and a place to live, you know that the economy has taken a bad turn.

And don't forget asset seizure and forfeiture! We can tie prisons to penury and ensure a reliable labor supply, no matter how law abiding the people try to be.

...do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-03-01   16:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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