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Title: 9-11 ACCOUNTABILITY - FRUSTRATION GROWS
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URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd252.htm
Published: Jan 1, 2007
Author: Devvy Kidd
Post Date: 2007-03-01 17:51:40 by Eoghan
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Comments: 20
Last weekend I attended the 911 Accountability Conference in Chandler, Arizona, just south of Phoenix. These are my observations and most likely, they will not be welcomed by the organizers and some of the participants. However, after 17 years in this movement to save this republic from being destroyed by craven poltroons serving in public office both in Washington, DC and throughout the states, I call things as I see them. There are no favorites when it comes to our freedom and liberty. A "press conference" was held on Friday night, February 23, 2007. Instead of reporters and media attendees asking a question and the panel returning with a response, virtually without exception, questions from the media "gallery" was endless proselytizing for their favorite cause or complaining that organizations like http://MoveOn.org and Cindy Sheehan have refused to join with them in the effort to get accountability regarding the events of September 11, 2001. It was quite nauseating and some of the panel members fell for it instead of simply providing crisp, concise and clear answers to questions that only arrived after endless speeches. One local reporter in attendance disrupted the press conference for a full 30 minutes by repeatedly insisting one of the organizers was "anti-Semitic." Apparently, local media were comparing those attending this conference to holocaust deniers. A lot of chaos and much ado about, well, opinions. Thankfully, after two full hours, this "press conference" finally broke up and I went off for an Excedrin cocktail. On Saturday morning I attended a networking/political action workshop. After fifteen minutes I wanted to simply gag. Although I'm sure it will be denied, there was a whole lot of socialism being pushed at that conference. The instructor was a very nice lady, but her presentation, using an overhead projector, was all about social action, collectivism, working together for human rights around the world, workers rights; an endless laundry list. I'm sorry, but I have spent the past 17 years studying world history (not the bunk one gets in the public indoctrination centers called public schools or from the boob tube), but actual events. This includes understanding socialism, communism, fascism and delivery systems for these ideologies, i.e., specific dialect. I saw no reason for this type of activism to be a focus of networking to bring facts about 911 to other Americans. As Phil Berg pointed out in his flyer available to attendees: "Accountability = responsibility and that we must unite and move forward on points that we agree with and put aside our differences." That's why I was turned off with the inserting of social causes from "progressives" into this conference. It was distracting and will push people away who understand the game and how it's played. On the positive side, there was a very good session on citizens grand jury as well as learning that a copy of 911 Mysteries: Demolitions has been provided free to every member of Congress. The afternoon session was dull with the exception of a dust up between Dr. Jim Fetzer and Dr. Steven Jones. I have seen Fetzer on Shallow Shawn Hannity's program and always felt he needed to be more in control. That's saying a lot when you go up against Hannity who pounds on you with his canned, worn out rhetoric and attempts to twist your every word, however, first impressions are everything. A while back Fetzer adopted the position regarding the twin towers that the damage was/could have been caused by beam weaponry and that the planes were just a distraction. Dr. Jones disagrees based on his background, training and analyzing of the entire crime scene. I am one of those who believe Dr. Fetzer has gone in the wrong direction providing lots of media fodder regarding credibility. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I believe Dr. Jones has consistently, backed up by physics, made the best scientific argument for what brought down the buildings. When all was said and done, I don't feel I learned anything new at this conference. A know a number of the speakers who did a fine job with their presentations, very well done. I also had the pleasure of meeting Phil Berg; see here for his latest. Media hacks who get paid to promote the government's fairy tale will call people like Mr. Berg a crack pot or lunatic. Funny, I didn't get that impression from this former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. In the end, I didn't see what I had hoped by attending. During the press conference one media rep gave his speech and then said that "they" (never did find out who "they" are) intend to shut down every major freeway in this country early next year. One common theme at this conference was how PO'd these "social progressives" are with Pelosi and company; they expected her and her comrades to take their oaths of office and begin impeachment proceedings. To say they are already disenchanted is an understatement. The other common theme from the green and peace and freedom party members seemed to be pushing their social agenda. Certainly, 911 was the topic, but the distraction about supporting "progressives" was a complete turn off. We're all frustrated to the max that reasonable questions regarding 911 continue to be ignored by the controlled "mainstream" media, Congress and Alberto Gonzalez' corrupt, Department of Justice. Highly educated, experienced individuals like Dr. Steven Jones and aviation experts by the dozens have provided we the people with the truth: a commercial air liner did not bring down either of the twin towers and Flight 77 could not have made that approach 20' off the ground and straight into the Pentagon - especially by one or two hijackers who couldn't even fly a single engine puddle jumper. All of this data ignored and the authors branded Kool Aid drinkers. I have written many columns on 911. Millions of words have been written about that day by columnists, scientists, engineers, pilots and other professionals. The ones who insist on ignoring the facts, 100% credible research and reasonable questions are cowards like Eliot Spitzer, Pataki, Guiliani, members of Congress and high paid media mouth pieces like Bill O'Reilly, Rush, Hannity and others. One thing for certain: a large number of participants at this conference belong to organizations that intend on taking this to the streets to build a big enough momentum that the 911 cover up can no longer be ignored by the political animals in Congress. They aren't afraid to get out there in the public's face to let them know there are serious questions regarding who was responsible for 911 and why we need a real investigation into the events of that day. Translated that means the ability of a grand jury or congressional committee to issue subpoenas and get to the real meat of the entire scenario including Enron, the anthrax attacks and Flight 93. The show down is coming and one can put money on the fact that Michael Chertoff, one of the most dangerous, evil men ever to head up any cabinet, is just lying in wait for the opportunity to unleash his dragoons on anyone who exercises their First Amendment rights. 911 has divided Americans in a big way. Those who believe the government's fairy tale despise people like me for asking reasonable questions and demanding a real, open investigation with the right questions being asked and the right people being put under oath. As with many others, I have received the most vile, hateful e-mail over the past few years calling me every name in the book because I have reasonable questions. The justification for the illegal invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, all these draconian laws and the worthless Department of Homeland Security are all based on the lies of 911. The stakes are high for corporate America filling their coffers off the war in the Middle East and the shadow government who pull the strings of corrupted politicians like John McCain. Below are links to information and free videos that I believe are important in unraveling this on-going cover up. All of my columns have links to more research and source documents. As for that conference: there's no question these are dedicated Americans. They know the official story about 911 is a lie. They know as do I that 3,000 Americans were slaughtered that day and that those who planned and executed events are still free and still lying to the American people. So, I wish them well with their "progressive," "workers rights," social values" and other goals. However, 911 is an American issue, not a political one and I believe they would do better to confine their activities strictly to the science and provable lies regarding that day. San Francisco Tea Party for 911 Truth This was an event held by dedicated Americans who care about those who died on 911 and like millions of us are demanding a real investigation into that crime. As you will see by looking at their site (click here), these great Americans went all out to get the attention of fellow Americans. Similar tea parties were held in other cities. Momentum is building and we aren't going away. Why is the federal government protecting known terrorists operating in this country? Patrick Briley is a columnist for http://NewsWithViews.com. This man has tirelessly worked on exposing the OKC bombing cover-up from day one. I have known Patrick for a long time and I'm telling you that he has done the hard research and has been trying to warn Americans in his columns archived here. Patrick has put an amazing amount of information into a book; he's connected all the dots and exposed the players. This man isn't selling his book, he's giving it away free on the Internet and for now, we've parked it on my web site. I urge you to print it out and get a copy to your sheriff, mayor, your state rep and state senator. They need to know that Bush and his criminal cabal are protecting known radical Islamic terrorists here in the U.S. and rogue FBI agents guilty in the murder of 168 Americans in OKC being protected, first by the Clinton administration and now the Bush regime. The same applies to those who died in the World Trade Center bombing in 1993 and 911. This is as serious as it gets and I urge you to take the time to get this fully documented information to the aforementioned individuals. The clock is ticking. How many times have we heard some yapping politician on a talk show say it's not "if," but "when" the next attack happens? We the people must expose the truth because it could mean the difference between more Americans dying and stopping another terrorist attack. Note: I hope you will check out my sister site, Devvy's Place, for up to date posts on legislation, events and short commentary. Even though it's a six hour drive each way, I'll be at the State Capitol in Austin, Texas on Friday, March 2nd, for the huge rally to protest the Trans-Texas Corridor (TTC), National Animal Identification system (NAIS), the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) and the North American Union; they are all deliberately inter connected. If you can, get there; see here for details on the hearings being held March 1st.
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#1. To: Eoghan, Kamala, Arator, Jethro Tull (#0)
you might be interested in reading about the AZ 911 conference.
Patrick's book BUMP
Bless her for telling it like it is. I detest those rosy false scenarios. IMHO, the 911 Truth movement reached its high water mark in LA. That isn't to say things are bad, in fact I feel the opposite. It took a decade for people to realize JFK was murdered, whereas 911 opinion was swayed against the govt. quickly. Like the free trade fight and the illegal alien issue, the public knows the truth. Not that a corrupt government will be swayed by the people anytime soon...
well said.
I hope the 9/11 truth movement can stay on focus and keep the "media" gallery on focus too, next time. The rules should be set in advance, stay on topic, get to questions quickly, or get microphone turned off and passed on to the next person. That goes for speakers too. No more campaigning on 9/11 truth.
I fear that this swaying may have to come via Pb. We'll see how it goes in Austin, tomorrow. (I'm not feeling all that well, and I really don't give a shit, any longer.)
Pitney Bowes?
See: periodic chart of the elements
I know. I was just kidding. :) He was referring to Peanut butter, right?
Gotta confess, I like, and have them both...good stuff to have around the house. In large quantities. Buy up.
Ahhh, I feel bad about that. Me and my big mouth ! Anyhow, I like your version of the Chart. Creamy, not crunchy. And not the 2111 variety....
Oh wonderful. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6243624912447824934 "Screw 9/11 Mysteries - Clunkity Clunk Edition, This is a counter-video to the first edition of "9/11 Mysteries". Using their own video and words, "Screw 9/11 Mysteries" aims to point out not only the bad science used in the film, but also the several accounts of lying, quote mining, tricky editing and strawman arguments." But they were such good buddies. Fetzer even used to cite Jones as his key *expert*. What happened? ROTFLOL! We share that view. He claims that the towers were designed to withstand the impacts of the planes that hit them. Untrue. While the mass of the design plane may be about the same, the velocity wasn't even close to that of the impacting planes. The WTC impacts had over seven times the energy and the design did not account for the effects of fire afterwards. He claims melting steel is part of NISTs theory for collapse of the towers. That is false. He claims that the fires were two low temperature and too brief to have caused the steel to weaken. False again. He claims there was no sagging or tilting before the collapse. A OUTRIGHT LIE. He claims there is not enough kinetic energy in the collapse of one floor to collapse the next lower floor. Nonsense. He claims the South Tower collapsed in 10 seconds and the North in 11 seconds. Demonstrably false. He claims "pools" of molten metal were found in the subbasement. He has NO evidence to support this claim. He claims the hole in the Pentagon was too small to accommodate Flight 77. Apparently, he never actually looked at pictures of the hole. He claims the kind of debris was wrong. False. All these false claims can only serve to discredit "the movement". But sometimes LIARS and KOOKS are hard to control. Yes, the conspiracy does get more and more complex as time goes by. ROTFLOL! You mean his background and training as a sub-atomic particle physicist? ROTFLOL! Sure. Too bad he can't convince any engineers or scientists or professionals who actually do have an education, training and experience in structures, fire, impact, steel, concrete, demolition, seismology and macro-world physics. And why do you think that is? Perhaps something to do with the bombs in the towers and no Flight 77 theories that your best *experts* continue to espouse? You mean like Nila Sagadevan? ROTFLOL! And a few dozen is about all that are publically in your camp. Amazing that out of several hundred thousand pilots in the US you can barely come up with a couple dozen who will say they agree with your WTC and Pentagon theories. Maybe it's time you got a clue, Devvy, if you REALLY want to find out the truth about 911?
what's wrong?
Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush husband and i will be there..
oh good!
Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
Yeah, I watched that with an open mind for about 5 minutes and realized it must have been done by BeALoser, I mean BeAChooser because the producers had the same bad habit of reading "A" and saying that it actually said "B". In other words they are full of shit like you. hehehe
Did you go to the Irvine event?
On the positive side, there was a very good session on citizens grand jury as well as learning that a copy of 911 Mysteries: Demolitions has been provided free to every member of Congress. The afternoon session was dull with the exception of a dust up between Dr. Jim Fetzer and Dr. Steven Jones.
#2. To: OKCSubmariner, ALL (#0)
Patrick Briley is a columnist for http://NewsWithViews.com. This man has tirelessly worked on exposing the OKC bombing cover-up from day one. I have known Patrick for a long time and I'm telling you that he has done the hard research and has been trying to warn Americans in his columns archived here. Patrick has put an amazing amount of information into a book; he's connected all the dots and exposed the players. This man isn't selling his book, he's giving it away free on the Internet and for now, we've parked it on my web site. I urge you to print it out and get a copy to your sheriff, mayor, your state rep and state senator. They need to know that Bush and his criminal cabal are protecting known radical Islamic terrorists here in the U.S. and rogue FBI agents guilty in the murder of 168 Americans in OKC being protected, first by the Clinton administration and now the Bush regime. The same applies to those who died in the World Trade Center bombing in 1993 and 911. This is as serious as it gets and I urge you to take the time to get this fully documented information to the aforementioned individuals. The clock is ticking. How many times have we heard some yapping politician on a talk show say it's not "if," but "when" the next attack happens? We the people must expose the truth because it could mean the difference between more Americans dying and stopping another terrorist attack.
#3. To: All (#1)
In the end, I didn't see what I had hoped by attending.
#4. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
#5. To: Eoghan (#0)
I don't want to be a martyr, I want to win! - Me
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
Not that a corrupt government will be swayed by the people anytime soon...
#7. To: lodwick (#6)
I fear that this swaying may have to come via Pb.
I don't want to be a martyr, I want to win! - Me
#8. To: Critter (#7)
#9. To: Bub, lodwick (#8)
(Edited)
See: periodic chart of the elements
I don't want to be a martyr, I want to win! - Me
#10. To: Bub, lodwick (#8)
I don't want to be a martyr, I want to win! - Me
#11. To: Critter, Bub, all (#10)
#12. To: Critter (#9)
#13. To: Eoghan, ALL (#0)
a copy of 911 Mysteries: Demolitions has been provided free to every member of Congress.
The afternoon session was dull with the exception of a dust up between Dr. Jim Fetzer and Dr. Steven Jones.
I have seen Fetzer on Shallow Shawn Hannity's program and always felt he needed to be more in control.
A while back Fetzer adopted the position regarding the twin towers that the damage was/could have been caused by beam weaponry and that the planes were just a distraction.
Dr. Jones disagrees based on his background, training
I believe Dr. Jones has consistently, backed up by physics, made the best scientific argument for what brought down the buildings.
We're all frustrated to the max that reasonable questions regarding 911 continue to be ignored
aviation experts by the dozens have provided we the people with the truth
#14. To: lodwick (#6)
(I'm not feeling all that well, and I really don't give a shit, any longer.)
#15. To: Eoghan, *9-11* (#0)
I'll be at the State Capitol in Austin, Texas on Friday, March 2nd, for the huge rally to protest the Trans-Texas Corridor (TTC), National Animal Identification system (NAIS), the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) and the North American Union; they are all deliberately inter connected.
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)
#16. To: robin (#15)
#17. To: christine (#16)
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)
#18. To: christine (#1)
I'll be attending a one day conference this month. Less than a two hour drive from my home. Hopefully I will pick up some newer information.
#19. To: BeAChooser (#13)
Using their own video and words, "Screw 9/11 Mysteries" aims to point out not only the bad science used in the film, but also the several accounts of lying, quote mining, tricky editing and strawman arguments."
I don't want to be a martyr, I want to win! - Me
#20. To: Kamala (#18)
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