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Title: LP owner allows poster to plant 1-pixel gifs in order to track LP users
Source: Libertypost
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... .cgi?ArtNum=179683&Disp=16#C16
Published: Mar 9, 2007
Author: add925
Post Date: 2007-03-09 14:17:36 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 8837
Comments: 257

FYI....very interesting indeed.

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#1. To: Hayek Fan (#0)

don't need a crystal ball to see that place as a spook front.

and here we were just talking about weird shit,

'they talk of days for which they sit and wait, when all will be revealed'

Led Zeppelin, Kashmir.

again, the old control paradigms evaporate in the face of novelty.

“All of us should treasure his (John Dillinger) Oriental wisdom and his preaching of a Zen-like detachment, as exemplified by his constant reminder to clerks, tellers, or others who grew excited by his presence in their banks: "Just lie down on the floor and keep calm."” --- Robert Anton Wilson

“Intelligence is the capacity to receive, decode and transmit information efficiently. Stupidity is blockage of this process at any point. Bigotry, ideologies etc. block the ability to receive; robotic reality-tunnels block the ability to decode or integrate new signals; censorship blocks transmission.” --- Robert Anton Wilson

gengis gandhi  posted on  2007-03-09   14:22:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lodwick (#0)

synchronicity ping.

“All of us should treasure his (John Dillinger) Oriental wisdom and his preaching of a Zen-like detachment, as exemplified by his constant reminder to clerks, tellers, or others who grew excited by his presence in their banks: "Just lie down on the floor and keep calm."” --- Robert Anton Wilson

“Intelligence is the capacity to receive, decode and transmit information efficiently. Stupidity is blockage of this process at any point. Bigotry, ideologies etc. block the ability to receive; robotic reality-tunnels block the ability to decode or integrate new signals; censorship blocks transmission.” --- Robert Anton Wilson

gengis gandhi  posted on  2007-03-09   14:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: gengis gandhi, Hayek Fan, robin, christine, Brian S, Neil McIver, aristeides, AGAviator, BeAChooser, bluedogtxn, leveller, Burkeman1 (#1)

don't need a crystal ball to see that place as a spook front.

Wow! You maybe right, gengis, about spooky spooks operating on or perhaps even running (?) LP. I wonder if lurkers in addition to LP posters are nabbed by this sly gif ploy. Holy moley. Good thing for you, BAC, that you were thrown off LP by Goldi and you came here to 4um or you could be part of a spook operation...hmmm....or you would be part of a spook op...or you are part of ...hmmm...

A. And more...

26. To: Scrivener (#23)

The meat of it starts here:

http://69.55.11.240/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=178235&Disp=192#C192

After I caught PA hiding a one pixel .gif in his post, one of his responses to me was, "The question is, what are you hiding? What do you think you are hiding or hiding from?"

The old "if you don't have anything to hide, you shouldn't mind me snooping around in your business."

Also here:

http://69.55.11.240/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=178117&Disp=115#C115

s2m

seen2much posted on 2007-03-08 10:56:54 ET Reply Trace

B. AND more....

19. To: add925, PatrioticAmerican, seen2much, liberator, goldi-lox, Johnny99 (#17)

What gives?

Why the use of these imbedded images?

Whats their purpose?

Mighty suspicious, indeed.

How companies track surfers

The most common way to track surfers is a combination of images (sometimes called beacons, 1-pixel GIFs, tracking GIFs and so forth) and cookies. Company X’s website will have an image embedded in it.

The image is hosted by Tracker Inc, so every time you view a page on Company X’s site, Tracker Inc gets a request for an image. The request typically contains encoded information.

As a simple example, when you request http://www.companyx.com/shoppi ngcart.html, your browser might also request an image from http://www.trackerinc.com/tracker.gif? cartitem=ipod40gb.

At the same time, your browser gets a cookie set on it, such as globalid=1234.

This cookie identifies you when you go to Company Y’s website.

Scrivener posted on 2007-03-09 14:05:47 ET Reply Trace

scrapper2  posted on  2007-03-09   14:55:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: gengis gandhi (#1)

don't need a crystal ball to see that place as a spook front.

seriously

Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)

robin  posted on  2007-03-09   15:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: scrapper2 (#3)

Good thing for you, BAC, that you were thrown off LP by Goldi and you came here to 4um or you could be part of a spook operation...hmmm....or you would be part of a spook op...or you are part of ...hmmm...

hmmm... is right

Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)

robin  posted on  2007-03-09   15:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robin, scrapper2 (#5)

Good thing for you, BAC, that you were thrown off LP by Goldi and you came here to 4um or you could be part of a spook operation...hmmm....or you would be part of a spook op...or you are part of ...hmmm...

I was thrown off LP as well - hmmmm

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-03-09   15:41:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: gengis gandhi. all (#2)

LP was always so dopey that I don't believe that I ever joined - at least, I hope that I didn't.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-03-09   15:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Destro (#6)

Many posters were thown off LP, but none with BAC's posting history.

Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)

robin  posted on  2007-03-09   16:02:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#8)

Many posters were thown off LP, but none with BAC's posting history.

In light of this information,if this was my site, I would dump BAC.

honway  posted on  2007-03-09   19:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: scrapper2, ALL (#3)

Good thing for you, BAC, that you were thrown off LP by Goldi and you came here to 4um or you could be part of a spook operation...hmmm....or you would be part of a spook op...or you are part of ...hmmm...

Find the 1 pixel gif in this post, scrapper. ROTFLOL!

Maybe its the dot at the bottom of the exclamation point. Try clicking it. ROTFLOL!

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-09   22:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Destro, ALL (#6)

I was thrown off LP as well - hmmmm

So where's your 1 pixel gif hidden? ROTFLOL! (Mines the dot under the exclamation point.)

Woe to any who respond to my laughing. ROTFLOL!

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-09   22:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: honway, ALL (#9)

In light of this information,if this was my site, I would dump BAC.

Careful, honway. Don't click the dot at the bottom of the ROTFLOL!

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-09   22:19:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: gengis gandhi, all, christine, lodwick (#2)

Ex-FRaudster chemanus better known as Brer Rabbit on ElPee went waaaaay out of his way to pretend to be my friend and smoothly tried to get my home address so he could mail me some "great homemade cheese."
Needless to say I did not fall for it. This guy is a spook...no doubt about it..as are most of the LP posters and the "owners."

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition



"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may know peace." -Thomas Paine

In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX

IndieTX  posted on  2007-03-09   23:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: honway, christine, skydrifter (#9) (Edited)

BAC's false story about being "thrown off LP" was a set-up and coordinated with "goldilicks"...whoever he or she REALLY is..to give him an excuse to come here and invade. He is a spook and agent provacteur. I would BAN him if I owned this forum as well. As it is, all should BOZO him immediately.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition



"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may know peace." -Thomas Paine

In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX

IndieTX  posted on  2007-03-09   23:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: IndieTX (#13)

I hate the fact that we must remain so distant on these forums.

I really think there are some good people that I interact with on the net, but...one never knows.

Whenever some mentions a 'meetup', I always have "something else to do", indeed!

Brian S  posted on  2007-03-09   23:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: IndieTX (#14)

As it is, all should BOZO him immediately.

He has been on my BZ list since about 1 day after his appearance here on this forum.

Indeed, he wouldn't have a place on any forum of mine.

Brian S  posted on  2007-03-09   23:15:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Brian S, BLUEDOGTXN (#15) (Edited)

Whenever some mentions a 'meetup', I always have "something else to do", indeed!

Prudence in these treacherous times is never to be criticized. I agree completely. Meetings violate the principle of LEADERLESS RESISTANCE. Groups will always expose you to infiltration...and incarceration. Why on earth should we make it easy on these fascist jackboot clowns???

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition



"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may know peace." -Thomas Paine

In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX

IndieTX  posted on  2007-03-09   23:16:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: IndieTX (#17)

Why on earth should we make it easy on these fascist jackboot clowns???

"Army of One"!!!

/chuckle

Brian S  posted on  2007-03-09   23:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Brian S (#15)

i've met and made some very good friends from the forums.

christine  posted on  2007-03-09   23:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Brian S, christine (#18)

Army of One"!!!

Not quite. Read up on the term and you'll find that's not correct. These times call for clandestine methods which is all I will say on the subject.

I too have made some wonderful friends on THIS forum...that's it. The other forums I wouoldn't trust as far as I could spit.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition



"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may know peace." -Thomas Paine

In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX

IndieTX  posted on  2007-03-09   23:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#19)

i've met and made some very good friends from the forums.

I have too, but not from this type of forum.

Brian S  posted on  2007-03-09   23:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: IndieTX (#20)

These times call for clandestine methods

You can't get more "clandestine" that operating solo...

Trust no one other than your pets.

People suck!

Brian S  posted on  2007-03-09   23:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: IndieTX, honway, christine, SKYDRIFTER, ALL (#14)

BAC's false story about being "thrown off LP" was a set-up and coordinated with "goldilicks"...whoever he or she REALLY is..to give him an excuse to come here and invade. He is a spook and agent provacteur. I would BAN him if I owned this forum as well. As it is, all should BOZO him immediately.

ROTFLOL!

Here's the real story, folks: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=45230&Disp=75#C75

Isn't it amazing that so many FD4UM members are anxious to get rid of a poster who has been courteous, who hasn't labeled anyone or called anyone a name while at FD4UM, who hasn't been the least bit vulgar, who has posted hundreds of sourced facts about topics that should be of interest, and who has been willing to debate their accuracy whenever challenged?

Instead of responding in kind, FD4UMers have used the bozo filter in large numbers to avoid reading any of those posts, have thrown out mountains of adhominems and directed rivers of vulgar language at that poster, have begged that poster to leave, have called for his banning, and are now suggesting without any proof whatsoever that he's part of some zionist conspiracy.

ROTFLOL!

Beware the dot!

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-09   23:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: IndieTX, Brian S (#17)

I hate the fact that we must remain so distant on these forums.

I really think there are some good people that I interact with on the net, but...one never knows.

Whenever some mentions a 'meetup', I always have "something else to do", indeed!

Prudence in these treacherous times is never to be criticized. I agree completely.

Pretty paranoid if you ask me. All a gubmint agent would have to do is hotlink a photo of their server to get your IP address and then head over to your internet service provider with a National Security Letter or a subpoena and they would have your name and address before lunch time. And that's if it's the FBI. The NSA gets it piped in directly.

I say fuck 'em. I'm not gonna skulk around in fear because of some gubmint goober in a bad suit and cheap shoes. Besides, they aren't going to do anything with the likes of us anyways. As long as the sheep keep grazing, there isn't much need for the powers that be to stir things up.

They may cull a few resisters from the herd from time to time to make an example of, but the odds of being that person are pretty slim for the time being.

PS: All that being said, there are sometimes when I drift into a melancholy mood and think they could probably load us into boxcars by the thousands and no one would give a shit.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2007-03-09   23:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: christine (#19)

I'm wondering if it's not happening here, My machine has intermittent problems while browsing this website, but when I'm not, it's fine.

I am beginning to believe that there are elements at work here who quite frankly should not be here for the good of the site, and the protection of other people's privacy.

Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-03-09   23:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SmokinOPs (#24)

I'm not gonna skulk around in fear because of some gubmint goober in a bad suit and cheap shoes.

I'm not "skulking" around in fear but I'm not stupid either.

Randy Weaver, perhaps, could give you some of the pluses and minuses on excepting people into your circle and inviting them into your home.

Do as you may, I'm quite content and justified with my "paranoia".

Keeps me on my toes, the scopes clean and hammer ready.

Brian S  posted on  2007-03-09   23:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: SmokinOPs, ALL (#24)

PS: All that being said, there are sometimes when I drift into a melancholy mood and think they could probably load us into boxcars by the thousands and no one would give a shit.

I would.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-09   23:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: beachooser, Critter, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#27)

PS: All that being said, there are sometimes when I drift into a melancholy mood and think they could probably load us into boxcars by the thousands and no one would give a shit.

I would.

"..... load us into boxcars by the thousands ...."


I believe you BAC, on this, I believe you!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-09   23:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Brian S (#26) (Edited)

Randy Weaver, perhaps, could give you some of the pluses and minuses on excepting people into your circle and inviting them into your home.

It's one thing to make a buddy and quite another to saw off a shotgun for them. You have to wonder just how bright was Weaver. I mean if a dude keeps bugging me to saw off a shotgun for them, I say "is your fucking arm broken" and point them to the nearest ACE Hardware. "Hacksaws are in aisle 4, good luck with that."

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2007-03-10   0:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: BeAChooser (#27)

SmokinOPs: All that being said, there are sometimes when I drift into a melancholy mood and think they could probably load us into boxcars by the thousands and no one would give a shit.

BeAChooser: I would.

That's a sweet answer to Smokin's reverie. I wonder if you really meant the sentiment you expressed.

I sense you are worried the majority of thumbs are pointing down.

I don't have much experience with you but your legend preceded you here.

Why are you here? You take so much abuse - you admit it and no one denies it, so that's the puzzle, why are you here? You could set up your own blog if you wanted to educate "lurkers" or "visitors" or you could post at the countless neocon blogs you source - why here at 4um wherein no one shares your perspective and you present yourself as a target? What do you get out of it?

And it seems more than unusual that you'd be banned from LP for something so insignificent - what was it? criticizing GWB for his open borders policy or something minor like that? Is that all it took to push the LP mod over the edge? It seems so strange. Can you explain it better to me. And no I don't think anyone here believes you are part of a "Zionist conspiracy" - your words, not ours - but the timing of your departure and odd things coming up at LP - well it's all unsettling.

What say you?

scrapper2  posted on  2007-03-10   0:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Brian S, IndieTx, all (#26)

Randy Weaver, perhaps, could give you some of the pluses and minuses on excepting people into your circle and inviting them into your home.

Randy's a dear friend of mine and my husband's. Incidentally, there's going to be a Ruby Ridge special on the Nat'l Geographic channel on March 13th. Randy said they interviewed him on his back porch for 5 1/2 hrs for it. They also interviewed Sarah, his daughter, Gerry Spence, and "the other side." He doesn't know how it's going to be spun as they've not given him a copy of the finished product.

christine  posted on  2007-03-10   0:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: scrapper2, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#30)

BAC has always worked with 'handlers;' they set his rules. BAC broke the rules, a while back - got badly caught in a lie - and he lost most of his technical support. In the world of Psyops, you NEVER get caught in a lie; BAC blew it. He used to be one hell of a tough intellectual opponent. Until his handlers decided to give him a lesson, I thought I was up against a single mind. He's still "hooked-up," though.

He'll mind his P's-n-Q's, until the Iran operation goes down. Then, you'll see his true colors.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-10   0:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: scrapper2, SmokinOPs, SKYDRIFTER, ALL (#30)

That's a sweet answer to Smokin's reverie. I wonder if you really meant the sentiment you expressed.

I did.

I sense you are worried the majority of thumbs are pointing down.

Not in the least.

Why are you here?

I've already told you. So visitors to FD4UM see both sides of certain issues.

You take so much abuse - you admit it and no one denies it,

I don't mind. It actually helps me prove a point.

why here at 4um wherein no one shares your perspective

The difference of opinion makes for a better debate.

What do you get out of it?

Intellectual stimulation and the satisfaction of knowing someone out there might appreciate hearing both sides of certain allegations. I don't see why either should bother you enough to want me gone.

And it seems more than unusual that you'd be banned from LP for something so insignificent - what was it? criticizing GWB for his open borders policy or something minor like that?

This should answer your question:

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=45230&Disp=75#C75

Is that all it took to push the LP mod over the edge?

Oh Goldi's problem with me goes way back. Ask SKYDRIFTER.

Can you explain it better to me.

See above link.

And no I don't think anyone here believes you are part of a "Zionist conspiracy" - your words, not ours

No, some of them have actually indicated they think I'm part of some zionist conspiracy.

but the timing of your departure and odd things coming up at LP - well it's all unsettling.

Indeed.

What say you?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-10   0:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: BeAChooser (#33)

What say you?

I say I'd like more straight answers from you.

a. You could set up your own blog if you wanted to educate "lurkers" or "visitors" or you could post at the countless neocon blogs you source - why here at 4um? Intellectual stimulation can be gotten at aforementioned places. What's in it for you at 4um?

b. Who accuses you of being part of a Zionist Conspiracy? Rubbish. That you are a neocon - yes, that's obvious. That you maybe a cyber police plant, well that's the question isn't it.

c. Where would you post if you got banned here?

scrapper2  posted on  2007-03-10   0:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#14)

He is a spook and agent provacteur.

I don't think so because he really did annoy Goldi over a period of years and she's banned a lot of posters.

IMO a real spook would pretend to be something they are not, like post a lot of inflammatory articles about Israel or Jews in an attempt to incite people. I think BAC is just obsessed with 911, and can't stand thinking that his govt would lie to him. There are some people like that.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-10   0:55:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Brian S (#22)

Trust no one other than your pets.

People suck!

I've thought that very same thing at times.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-10   0:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Diana (#36)

Hell, even my dogs will lie to me now and then, but they are just 'white lies'.

Like, "I'll bark that I hear something outside so you will get off the computer and play with me for awhile"...

Brian S  posted on  2007-03-10   1:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: scrapper2, Jethro Tull, SKYDRIFTER, ALL (#34)

a. You could set up your own blog if you wanted to educate "lurkers" or "visitors" or you could post at the countless neocon blogs you source - why here at 4um? Intellectual stimulation can be gotten at aforementioned places.

On the contrary, they are much like FD4UM was before I joined. They often practice group think.

What's in it for you at 4um?

I think I answered that.

b. Who accuses you of being part of a Zionist Conspiracy? Rubbish.

Jethro Tull called me a Zionist. And he most certainly believes there is a conspiracy. And so does SKYDRIFTER and he called me a "Mossadite piece of shit". And that's just one of several threads.

That you are a neocon - yes, that's obvious.

Guess that depends on your definition. And that is?

That you maybe a cyber police plant, well that's the question isn't it.

Well then you might be in real trouble. But rest easy. I'm not your problem.

c. Where would you post if you got banned here?

I don't intend to do anything that should get me banned.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-10   1:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: BeAChooser, All (#23)

Instead of responding in kind, FD4UMers have used the bozo filter in large numbers to avoid reading any of those posts, have thrown out mountains of adhominems and directed rivers of vulgar language at that poster, have begged that poster to leave, have called for his banning, and are now suggesting without any proof whatsoever that he's part of some zionist conspiracy.

I don't think you're a spook, but when you behave in an arrogant manner towards others it makes them angry. This forum is too small, and there are many, many forums out there that it wouldn't be worth it to have spooks.

As I said I would be more leery of posters who only pop by to post inflammatory articles, using the Borat method. No one here really fits that.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-10   1:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Diana, ALL (#35)

I think BAC is just obsessed with 911, and can't stand thinking that his govt would lie to him.

I know the government lies to me all the time. Sometimes its for my own good. Sometimes it is not. As to being obsessed with 911, I suppose I plead guilty. But then if that were a crime we'd almost all be behind bars.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-10   1:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Diana, ALL (#39)

I don't think you're a spook,

I'm not, except on Halloween.

when you behave in an arrogant manner towards others it makes them angry.

Correcting misinformation and posting facts and sound logic is not arrogance.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-10   1:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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