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Title: LP owner allows poster to plant 1-pixel gifs in order to track LP users
Source: Libertypost
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... .cgi?ArtNum=179683&Disp=16#C16
Published: Mar 9, 2007
Author: add925
Post Date: 2007-03-09 14:17:36 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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Views: 9121
Comments: 257

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#25. To: christine (#19)

I'm wondering if it's not happening here, My machine has intermittent problems while browsing this website, but when I'm not, it's fine.

I am beginning to believe that there are elements at work here who quite frankly should not be here for the good of the site, and the protection of other people's privacy.

Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-03-09   23:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SmokinOPs (#24)

I'm not gonna skulk around in fear because of some gubmint goober in a bad suit and cheap shoes.

I'm not "skulking" around in fear but I'm not stupid either.

Randy Weaver, perhaps, could give you some of the pluses and minuses on excepting people into your circle and inviting them into your home.

Do as you may, I'm quite content and justified with my "paranoia".

Keeps me on my toes, the scopes clean and hammer ready.

Brian S  posted on  2007-03-09   23:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: SmokinOPs, ALL (#24)

PS: All that being said, there are sometimes when I drift into a melancholy mood and think they could probably load us into boxcars by the thousands and no one would give a shit.

I would.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-09   23:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: beachooser, Critter, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#27)

PS: All that being said, there are sometimes when I drift into a melancholy mood and think they could probably load us into boxcars by the thousands and no one would give a shit.

I would.

"..... load us into boxcars by the thousands ...."


I believe you BAC, on this, I believe you!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-09   23:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Brian S (#26) (Edited)

Randy Weaver, perhaps, could give you some of the pluses and minuses on excepting people into your circle and inviting them into your home.

It's one thing to make a buddy and quite another to saw off a shotgun for them. You have to wonder just how bright was Weaver. I mean if a dude keeps bugging me to saw off a shotgun for them, I say "is your fucking arm broken" and point them to the nearest ACE Hardware. "Hacksaws are in aisle 4, good luck with that."

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2007-03-10   0:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: BeAChooser (#27)

SmokinOPs: All that being said, there are sometimes when I drift into a melancholy mood and think they could probably load us into boxcars by the thousands and no one would give a shit.

BeAChooser: I would.

That's a sweet answer to Smokin's reverie. I wonder if you really meant the sentiment you expressed.

I sense you are worried the majority of thumbs are pointing down.

I don't have much experience with you but your legend preceded you here.

Why are you here? You take so much abuse - you admit it and no one denies it, so that's the puzzle, why are you here? You could set up your own blog if you wanted to educate "lurkers" or "visitors" or you could post at the countless neocon blogs you source - why here at 4um wherein no one shares your perspective and you present yourself as a target? What do you get out of it?

And it seems more than unusual that you'd be banned from LP for something so insignificent - what was it? criticizing GWB for his open borders policy or something minor like that? Is that all it took to push the LP mod over the edge? It seems so strange. Can you explain it better to me. And no I don't think anyone here believes you are part of a "Zionist conspiracy" - your words, not ours - but the timing of your departure and odd things coming up at LP - well it's all unsettling.

What say you?

scrapper2  posted on  2007-03-10   0:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Brian S, IndieTx, all (#26)

Randy Weaver, perhaps, could give you some of the pluses and minuses on excepting people into your circle and inviting them into your home.

Randy's a dear friend of mine and my husband's. Incidentally, there's going to be a Ruby Ridge special on the Nat'l Geographic channel on March 13th. Randy said they interviewed him on his back porch for 5 1/2 hrs for it. They also interviewed Sarah, his daughter, Gerry Spence, and "the other side." He doesn't know how it's going to be spun as they've not given him a copy of the finished product.

christine  posted on  2007-03-10   0:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: scrapper2, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#30)

BAC has always worked with 'handlers;' they set his rules. BAC broke the rules, a while back - got badly caught in a lie - and he lost most of his technical support. In the world of Psyops, you NEVER get caught in a lie; BAC blew it. He used to be one hell of a tough intellectual opponent. Until his handlers decided to give him a lesson, I thought I was up against a single mind. He's still "hooked-up," though.

He'll mind his P's-n-Q's, until the Iran operation goes down. Then, you'll see his true colors.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-10   0:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: scrapper2, SmokinOPs, SKYDRIFTER, ALL (#30)

That's a sweet answer to Smokin's reverie. I wonder if you really meant the sentiment you expressed.

I did.

I sense you are worried the majority of thumbs are pointing down.

Not in the least.

Why are you here?

I've already told you. So visitors to FD4UM see both sides of certain issues.

You take so much abuse - you admit it and no one denies it,

I don't mind. It actually helps me prove a point.

why here at 4um wherein no one shares your perspective

The difference of opinion makes for a better debate.

What do you get out of it?

Intellectual stimulation and the satisfaction of knowing someone out there might appreciate hearing both sides of certain allegations. I don't see why either should bother you enough to want me gone.

And it seems more than unusual that you'd be banned from LP for something so insignificent - what was it? criticizing GWB for his open borders policy or something minor like that?

This should answer your question:

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=45230&Disp=75#C75

Is that all it took to push the LP mod over the edge?

Oh Goldi's problem with me goes way back. Ask SKYDRIFTER.

Can you explain it better to me.

See above link.

And no I don't think anyone here believes you are part of a "Zionist conspiracy" - your words, not ours

No, some of them have actually indicated they think I'm part of some zionist conspiracy.

but the timing of your departure and odd things coming up at LP - well it's all unsettling.

Indeed.

What say you?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-10   0:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: BeAChooser (#33)

What say you?

I say I'd like more straight answers from you.

a. You could set up your own blog if you wanted to educate "lurkers" or "visitors" or you could post at the countless neocon blogs you source - why here at 4um? Intellectual stimulation can be gotten at aforementioned places. What's in it for you at 4um?

b. Who accuses you of being part of a Zionist Conspiracy? Rubbish. That you are a neocon - yes, that's obvious. That you maybe a cyber police plant, well that's the question isn't it.

c. Where would you post if you got banned here?

scrapper2  posted on  2007-03-10   0:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#14)

He is a spook and agent provacteur.

I don't think so because he really did annoy Goldi over a period of years and she's banned a lot of posters.

IMO a real spook would pretend to be something they are not, like post a lot of inflammatory articles about Israel or Jews in an attempt to incite people. I think BAC is just obsessed with 911, and can't stand thinking that his govt would lie to him. There are some people like that.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-10   0:55:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Brian S (#22)

Trust no one other than your pets.

People suck!

I've thought that very same thing at times.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-10   0:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Diana (#36)

Hell, even my dogs will lie to me now and then, but they are just 'white lies'.

Like, "I'll bark that I hear something outside so you will get off the computer and play with me for awhile"...

Brian S  posted on  2007-03-10   1:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: scrapper2, Jethro Tull, SKYDRIFTER, ALL (#34)

a. You could set up your own blog if you wanted to educate "lurkers" or "visitors" or you could post at the countless neocon blogs you source - why here at 4um? Intellectual stimulation can be gotten at aforementioned places.

On the contrary, they are much like FD4UM was before I joined. They often practice group think.

What's in it for you at 4um?

I think I answered that.

b. Who accuses you of being part of a Zionist Conspiracy? Rubbish.

Jethro Tull called me a Zionist. And he most certainly believes there is a conspiracy. And so does SKYDRIFTER and he called me a "Mossadite piece of shit". And that's just one of several threads.

That you are a neocon - yes, that's obvious.

Guess that depends on your definition. And that is?

That you maybe a cyber police plant, well that's the question isn't it.

Well then you might be in real trouble. But rest easy. I'm not your problem.

c. Where would you post if you got banned here?

I don't intend to do anything that should get me banned.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-10   1:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: BeAChooser, All (#23)

Instead of responding in kind, FD4UMers have used the bozo filter in large numbers to avoid reading any of those posts, have thrown out mountains of adhominems and directed rivers of vulgar language at that poster, have begged that poster to leave, have called for his banning, and are now suggesting without any proof whatsoever that he's part of some zionist conspiracy.

I don't think you're a spook, but when you behave in an arrogant manner towards others it makes them angry. This forum is too small, and there are many, many forums out there that it wouldn't be worth it to have spooks.

As I said I would be more leery of posters who only pop by to post inflammatory articles, using the Borat method. No one here really fits that.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-10   1:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Diana, ALL (#35)

I think BAC is just obsessed with 911, and can't stand thinking that his govt would lie to him.

I know the government lies to me all the time. Sometimes its for my own good. Sometimes it is not. As to being obsessed with 911, I suppose I plead guilty. But then if that were a crime we'd almost all be behind bars.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-10   1:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Diana, ALL (#39)

I don't think you're a spook,

I'm not, except on Halloween.

when you behave in an arrogant manner towards others it makes them angry.

Correcting misinformation and posting facts and sound logic is not arrogance.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-10   1:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Diana, ALL (#39)

Honestly, I'm really trying to be helpful around here.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-10   1:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: BeAChooser, Scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, Red Jones, christine (#33)

Oh Goldi's problem with me goes way back. Ask SKYDRIFTER.

I can vouch for that as well. Goldi got sick of their fights from way back. I think BAC's for real he's just got a difficult personality and does not always debate honestly. Red Jones can tell you the same as he was there too.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-10   1:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Brian S (#37)

Hell, even my dogs will lie to me now and then, but they are just 'white lies'.

Like, "I'll bark that I hear something outside so you will get off the computer and play with me for awhile"...

Or "Give me a treat, or some of your food, I want it NOW!"

Diana  posted on  2007-03-10   1:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: BeAChooser (#41)

Correcting misinformation and posting facts and sound logic is not arrogance.

You probably don't see it, but I think that's what the main problem is.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-10   1:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Brian S (#22)

Trust no one other than your pets.

People suck!

I have to agree.

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In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
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IndieTX  posted on  2007-03-10   1:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: christine (#31) (Edited)

He doesn't know how it's going to be spun as they've not given him a copy of the finished product.

Let us all pray for Randy, and that someday, those responsible for his losses will pay dearly at the end of a long rope.!!! Nite all...

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition



"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may know peace." -Thomas Paine

In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX

IndieTX  posted on  2007-03-10   1:28:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: BeALooser, scrapper2, christine (#10)

Find the 1 pixel gif in this post, scrapper. ROTFLOL!

Maybe its the dot at the bottom of the exclamation point. Try clicking it. ROTFLOL

Looser never did explain the meaning of This Post on ElPee to me

"My my ... you spent a lot of time formating that post, America Hater. And said NOTHING."

BeALooser posted on 2006-12-07 00:30:59 ET

Now how would Looser know how much time - or how little time - I was spending.

And it just so happens on the same thread, on this post there was an image posted by none other than...Looser.

Coincidence? You be the judge...


Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser

AGAviator  posted on  2007-03-10   1:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: BeAChooser (#40)

I know the government lies to me all the time. Sometimes its for my own good.

Sounds like a self-esteem problem. In what case is being lied to for your own good?

Mekons4  posted on  2007-03-10   1:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: BeAChooser (#23)

Who is suggesting you are part of a Zionist conspiracy?

You do put a lot of effort into bending over backwards for the government in regard to 9/11 and the war in Iraq, but you never mention Israel. hmmmm... LOL!

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-03-10   2:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Diana (#35)

I think BAC is just obsessed with 911, and can't stand thinking that his govt would lie to him. There are some people like that.

I would like to believe that, but I sure wouldn't bet on it.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-03-10   2:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: BeAChooser (#27)

>PS: All that being said, there are sometimes when I drift into a melancholy mood and think they could probably load us into boxcars by the thousands and no one would give a shit.

I would.

But would you do anything about it? If our government really did that would you fight them, or continue to make excuses for them.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-03-10   2:14:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: BeAChooser (#40)

I know the government lies to me all the time.

Yet you believe their fairy tale about 9/11. LOL!

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-03-10   2:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: BeAChooser (#23)

Instead of responding in kind, FD4UMers have used the bozo filter in large numbers to avoid reading any of those posts, have thrown out mountains of adhominems and directed rivers of vulgar language at that poster, have begged that poster to leave, have called for his banning, and are now suggesting without any proof whatsoever that he's part of some zionist conspiracy.

After wiping the tears from my eyes, and regaining my composure, all I can say is...

YOU ARE A KOOK!


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-03-10   3:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: scrapper2 (#30)

And it seems more than unusual that you'd be banned from LP for something so insignificent - what was it? criticizing GWB for his open borders policy or something minor like that? Is that all it took to push the LP mod over the edge? It seems so strange. Can you explain it better to me. And no I don't think anyone here believes you are part of a "Zionist conspiracy" - your words, not ours - but the timing of your departure and odd things coming up at LP - well it's all unsettling.

Ooser got banned because he was badgering Goldi on a amnesty bill thread to ban Uncle Bill, Scivener, TwentyTwelve, and any other "kooks" he could think of, including me.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-03-10   3:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: AGAviator, BeAChooser (#48) (Edited)

I read part of that LP exchange, and came across this post by BeAChooser to you:

137. To: AGAviator, ALL (#135)

What's important, Looser, is not who my friends are

I suspect who YOUR friends are is very important.

BeAChooser posted on 2006-12-07 00:29:28 ET Reply Trace

BeAChooser, what is that suppose to mean?

Also I find it curious how the citizens of Iraq were armed to the teeth, I do remember through the years seeing photos of men, ordinary men, holding and shooting machine guns. There seemed to be no gun control laws like we have in America, and I remembered reading that in Iraq having lots of guns was part of the culture.

Reading BAC's post #134 on that thread got me to thinking about that, how there were so many guns and ammunition all over Iraq.

It's just unusual in a dictatorship situation for the citizenry to have so many weapons, so many guns of all kinds available to them.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-10   6:30:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: BeAChooser (#40)

I know the government lies to me all the time. Sometimes its for my own good.

Thats all that anyone will ever need to know about your mentality.

"Sometimes its for my own good."

What an idiot.

Ragin1  posted on  2007-03-10   8:13:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Brian S (#22)

Trust no one other than your pets.

You must not own any cats. :-)

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-03-10   9:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: BeAChooser (#23)

Isn't it amazing that so many FD4UM members are anxious to get rid of a poster who has been courteous, who hasn't labeled anyone or called anyone a name while at FD4UM, who hasn't been the least bit vulgar, who has posted hundreds of sourced facts about topics that should be of interest, and who has been willing to debate their accuracy whenever challenged?

THe reaction to you is not about whether you call somebody names.

It's about your obnoxious, thread-spamming, and frequently irrelevant remarks which you repeat over, and over, and over, and over - combined with a shameless acceptance of any claims the Bush Administation has to make explaining its actions.


Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser

AGAviator  posted on  2007-03-10   11:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: BeAChooser (#11)

Tell your masters I will help Putin destroy America....

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-03-10   13:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: FormerLurker, ALL (#55)

Ooser got banned because he was badgering Goldi on a amnesty bill thread to ban Uncle Bill, Scivener, TwentyTwelve, and any other "kooks" he could think of, including me.

Here is precisely what happened, folks:

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=45230&Disp=75#C75

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-10   13:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: AGAviator, ALL (#59)

It's about your obnoxious, thread-spamming, and frequently irrelevant remarks which you repeat over, and over, and over, and over - combined with a shameless acceptance of any claims the Bush Administation has to make explaining its actions.

Like this one?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-10   13:51:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: BeAChooser (#62)

Your use of that chart on this thread is a perfect example of your thread- spamming.

Carry on, fuckwit.


Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser

AGAviator  posted on  2007-03-11   0:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: AGAviator, ALL (#63)

Your use of that chart on this thread is a perfect example of your thread- spamming.

No, it's actually a perfect example of you not knowing what you are talking about and being unwilling to be corrected when you are wrong.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-11   3:34:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: BeAChooser (#64)

No, that would be these

Post #92
"Since 9/11, the GDP of the US has increased by something on the order of 2 TRILLION dollars a year."

BeALooser posted on 2006-11- 07 02:13:00 ET

Post #111

"You clearly made the claim that the rise in government expenditures was responsible for the tremendous increase in GDP (to the tune of 2 billion a year) by the end of the five years since 9/11."

BeALooser posted on 2006-11-07 19:39:19 ET

Post #122

"You made the claim that the 2 trillion dollar increase per year in GDP is mostly government spending."

BeALooser posted on 2006-11- 08 12:51:48 ET

Post #122

"Yet, the GDP has gone from about 10 billion to about 12 billion a year ... a 20 percent increase"

BeALooser posted on 2006-11- 08 12:51:48 ET

Post #137

“Obviously I meant $2 trillion"

BeALooser posted on 2006-11-09 10:28:44 ET

Post #147

So I accidently wrote billion instead of trillion a few times

BeALooser posted on 2006-11-12 20:25:08 ET”

Post #83

“I suspect all of us at one time or another in the heat of a debate [!!] have switched billions and millions and even trillions.

BeALooser posted on 2006-12-01 19:19:29 ET

Post #151

“Total government spending… was roughly 2.75 trillion dollars. A 33 percent increase would amount to 900 million

BeALooser posted on 2006-11-12 22:48:21 ET”

Post #154

"OK. So I was wrong...Big deal. "

BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:00:34 ET

Post #154

“But it is clearly what I meant" [!!]

BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:00:34 ET

Post #154

So my language was sloppy. Sue me."

BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:00:34 ET

Post #158

I meant billion. Sue me."

BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:25:26 ET

Post #158

I'm just tired"

BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:25:26 ET

Post #231

You were off by a factor of a thousand.

Yet, intelligent people [!!] still knew what I meant. Still could see my point. They could tell I just transposed two similar words in the rush to respond to you

BeALooser posted on 2006-11-30 14:39:06 ET

"You tell us when that civil war happens because so far there is no sign of it."

BeALooser posted on 2006-06-30 01:48:13 ET

"Iraqi units made up of Shiites, Kurds and Sunnis are routinely operating together quite well"

BeALooser posted on 2006-06-30 01:48:13 ET

"American soldiers are going to die whether we are in Iraq or not. That's one of the facts the American public needs to face.."

BeALooser posted on 2006-12-28 13:30:47 ET

"No one is being fooled by your claiming 9 KIA a day (which isn't close to the actual situation on average, btw) is unsustainable for a country the size of the United States."

BeALooser posted on 2006-06-29 19:16:07 ET

“I think you are a K**K if you think a country this size can't sustain 9 KIA a day in a global war."

BeALooser posted on 2007-01-21 17:27:20 ET


Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser

AGAviator  posted on  2007-03-11   4:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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