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Title: LP owner allows poster to plant 1-pixel gifs in order to track LP users
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URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... .cgi?ArtNum=179683&Disp=16#C16
Published: Mar 9, 2007
Author: add925
Post Date: 2007-03-09 14:17:36 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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Comments: 257
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#43. To: BeAChooser, Scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, Red Jones, christine (#33)
I can vouch for that as well. Goldi got sick of their fights from way back. I think BAC's for real he's just got a difficult personality and does not always debate honestly. Red Jones can tell you the same as he was there too.
Like, "I'll bark that I hear something outside so you will get off the computer and play with me for awhile"... Or "Give me a treat, or some of your food, I want it NOW!"
You probably don't see it, but I think that's what the main problem is.
People suck! I have to agree.
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may know peace." -Thomas Paine In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these. Let us all pray for Randy, and that someday, those responsible for his losses will pay dearly at the end of a long rope.!!! Nite all...
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may know peace." -Thomas Paine In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these. Maybe its the dot at the bottom of the exclamation point. Try clicking it. ROTFLOL Looser never did explain the meaning of This Post on ElPee to me BeALooser posted on 2006-12-07 00:30:59 ET And it just so happens on the same thread, on this post there was an image posted by none other than...Looser. Coincidence? You be the judge...
Sounds like a self-esteem problem. In what case is being lied to for your own good?
Who is suggesting you are part of a Zionist conspiracy? You do put a lot of effort into bending over backwards for the government in regard to 9/11 and the war in Iraq, but you never mention Israel. hmmmm... LOL!
God is always good! I would like to believe that, but I sure wouldn't bet on it.
God is always good! I would. But would you do anything about it? If our government really did that would you fight them, or continue to make excuses for them.
God is always good! Yet you believe their fairy tale about 9/11. LOL!
God is always good! After wiping the tears from my eyes, and regaining my composure, all I can say is... YOU ARE A KOOK!
Ooser got banned because he was badgering Goldi on a amnesty bill thread to ban Uncle Bill, Scivener, TwentyTwelve, and any other "kooks" he could think of, including me.
I read part of that LP exchange, and came across this post by BeAChooser to you: 137. To: AGAviator, ALL (#135) What's important, Looser, is not who my friends are I suspect who YOUR friends are is very important. BeAChooser posted on 2006-12-07 00:29:28 ET Reply Trace BeAChooser, what is that suppose to mean? Also I find it curious how the citizens of Iraq were armed to the teeth, I do remember through the years seeing photos of men, ordinary men, holding and shooting machine guns. There seemed to be no gun control laws like we have in America, and I remembered reading that in Iraq having lots of guns was part of the culture. Reading BAC's post #134 on that thread got me to thinking about that, how there were so many guns and ammunition all over Iraq. It's just unusual in a dictatorship situation for the citizenry to have so many weapons, so many guns of all kinds available to them.
Thats all that anyone will ever need to know about your mentality. "Sometimes its for my own good." What an idiot.
You must not own any cats. :-)
THe reaction to you is not about whether you call somebody names. It's about your obnoxious, thread-spamming, and frequently irrelevant remarks which you repeat over, and over, and over, and over - combined with a shameless acceptance of any claims the Bush Administation has to make explaining its actions.
Tell your masters I will help Putin destroy America....
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Here is precisely what happened, folks: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=45230&Disp=75#C75
Like this one?
Your use of that chart on this thread is a perfect example of your thread- spamming. Carry on, fuckwit.
No, it's actually a perfect example of you not knowing what you are talking about and being unwilling to be corrected when you are wrong.
No, that would be these BeALooser posted on 2006-11- 07 02:13:00 ET BeALooser posted on 2006-11-07 19:39:19 ET BeALooser posted on 2006-11- 08 12:51:48 ET BeALooser posted on 2006-11- 08 12:51:48 ET BeALooser posted on 2006-11-09 10:28:44 ET So I accidently wrote billion instead of trillion a few times BeALooser posted on 2006-11-12 20:25:08 ET” “I suspect all of us at one time or another in the heat of a debate [!!] have switched billions and millions and even trillions. BeALooser posted on 2006-12-01 19:19:29 ET BeALooser posted on 2006-11-12 22:48:21 ET” BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:00:34 ET BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:00:34 ET BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:00:34 ET BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:25:26 ET BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:25:26 ET Yet, intelligent people [!!] still knew what I meant. Still could see my point. They could tell I just transposed two similar words in the rush to respond to you BeALooser posted on 2006-11-30 14:39:06 ET "You tell us when that civil war happens because so far there is no sign of it." BeALooser posted on 2006-06-30 01:48:13 ET "Iraqi units made up of Shiites, Kurds and Sunnis are routinely operating together quite well" BeALooser posted on 2006-06-30 01:48:13 ET "American soldiers are going to die whether we are in Iraq or not. That's one of the facts the American public needs to face.." BeALooser posted on 2006-12-28 13:30:47 ET “I think you are a K**K if you think a country this size can't sustain 9 KIA a day in a global war." No, unlike you I immediately acknowledged that I incorrectly wrote billion instead of trillion the moment it was pointed out. And of course, everyone on those threads knew what I had meant to say anyway. You, however, INSISTED that chart showed a 16 percent drop in housing prices despite multiple attempts to point out "the obvious". True. You really think this true? Well how in the world did we manage to stay in a war that cost America 300,000 dead and missing over a 3 year period?
b. Well how in the world did we manage to stay in a war that cost America 300,000 dead and missing over a 3 year period? a. Uh...why would our soldiers die whether we were in Iraq or not? You mean our soldiers would die eventually at old age around 75-80 like every one else? Or do you mean if our soldiers were not in Iraq your heroes, the war monger DC elites, would just have them fighting another useless war for lies elsewhere? b. Uh...hello, BAC, anyone home? We fought in World War II along with 2 other allies, who suffered incredible losses, against nations with standing armies in uniforms that had declared war on us. Iraq did not declare war on us. Why should we be wanting to sustain a loss of 9 KIA a day for a nebulus war with no end in sight that we started for lies? Not to mention the fact that we are the laughing stock of the universe for having caused this war and our so called "coalition of the willing" ( say what?) pals are dropping off like flies because their own public are so pissed off at being a part of this Iraq invasion for Israel/Halliburton/Exxon charade.
And within 6 months both the Battle of the Coral Sea and the Battle of Midway were won, and within 18 months the person responsible for Pearl Harbor - Admiral Yamamoto - was located and killed. And all because the American media supported that war. Yup. BWAHAHAHA!
Thousands and thousands of islamo-fanatics have gone to Iraq ... and died there. If they weren't attacking us there, they'd likely be causing trouble elsewhere. BEFORE we invaded Iraq, al-Zarqawi, operating out of Iraq, was plotting attacks against US allies and Americans. One such plot hoped to kill every American in the US embassy in Amman. What would you have done about him and his associates, given that Saddam was showing no willingness to stop him? The why is not the issue here. AGAviator (and you?) object to the notion that this country could sustain 9 KIA a day for years and years? Why in my opinion, that is just as silly as AGAviator claiming housing prices went down 16% in that graph I posted.
We could sustain a lot more than that, but we can't sustain the monetary costs per day for this war. The Federal Reserve can print all the money it wants too, but there are consequences for doing so.
God is always good! And how many Americans had died in the first 6 months? With any end for the war still years away? How much of Americas resources were being spent on the war with any end years away? And fighting over what? Some tropical islands with no resources whatsoever? And if the American media reported those deaths, those expenses, and the costly progress of the war the same as they've reported Iraq, do you honestly think American morale would have been as high as it was? Or would America have been talking about suing for peace to end the nightmare?
What did you mean when you said that to AGAviator on that LP thread?
We sustained far more than those monetary costs in WW2. WW2 cost 130 percent of GDP. Even at AGAviator's two trillion, the Iraq war would only be a 5 to 10 percent of current GDP.
The why is not the issue here. AGAviator (and you?) object to the notion that this country could sustain 9 KIA a day for years and years? Let me be clearer to you - why SHOULD we sustain 9 KIA American citizens for a war for lies? Your Zarqawi tale ( even if it were true) did not give us authority to invade Iraq, which was no threat to our nation. We invaded Iraq for Israel mainly and the defense industry and oil industry were served as secondary interests. Our American citizen soldiers should not be fighting and dying at 1 KIA per day never mind 9 KIA per day for the national security interests of a foreign nation, which does not even want to sign a mutual defense treaty with America. BeAChooser, do you feel our American soldiers should die for Israel's national security interests? http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=23083 "IRAQ:War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser" ...Zelikow's casting of the attack on Iraq as one launched to protect Israel appears at odds with the public position of President George W. Bush and his administration, which has never overtly drawn the link between its war on the regime of former president Hussein and its concern for Israel's security. The administration has instead insisted it launched the war to liberate the Iraqi people, destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and to protect the United States. Zelikow made his statements about ”the unstated threat” during his tenure on a highly knowledgeable and well-connected body known as the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), which reports directly to the president. He served on the board between 2001 and 2003. ”Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 -- it's the threat against Israel,” Zelikow told a crowd at the University of Virginia on Sep. 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of foreign policy experts assessing the impact of 9/11 and the future of the war on the al-Qaeda terrorist organisation. ”And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell,” said Zelikow...
Did you read the thread in question, Diana? The answer lies within...
Thousands and thousands of islamo-fanatics have been created by American support of Israel, invading Afghanistan and invading Iraq. They have every right to attack us there. It's their land, not ours, you fucking nitwit.
False.
Yes I read that long thread, but that's a cryptic answer. So what did you mean, first he said it's not important who his friends are, then you gave him that somewhat ominous answer and I wondered what you meant by that. And when Scrapper2 said something about being taken away in a boxcar, and you said you would care, did you mean you'd care as in you'd be against it, that you would want no harm to come to her or did you mean you'd care in that you'd be all for it? Sometimes you're not real clear on those issues.
You're living in a dream world. Go read some newspapers from the time. The fact is, within 6 months the US was on its way to winning because they had some political and military leadership who knew how to lead. Oh yeah, and the President at the time was a Democrat! ROTFLAMO!
Not the issue. AGAviator claimed we could NOT sustain such losses. 300,000 plus dead and missing in WW2 proves that isn't true. It is true. Didn't you pay any attention to the news? The terrorists were even convicted of the plot. One of those convicted was al-Zarqawi. Not the question. What would you have done about al-Zarqawi if he'd killed a few hundred or thousand Americans in such a plot (not to mention tens of thousands of Jordanians) given that Saddam wasn't doing anything to curtail his activities? Well, that's your opinion. Again, your opinion. Opinions are a dime a dozen. So are "advisors".
Well let's see, 2 trillion divided by 10 trillion per year for 3 years. Yep ... 5 to 10 percent of GDP.
First of all, it wasn't scrapper who said that and second, yes, I'd be against it.
But at what cost? To win the war they spent over 300,000 American lives and a fantastic percentage of the GDP. Over what? A few islands? And a case can be made that we forced the Japanese into attacking us when we cutoff their access to oil. What right did we have to do that?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestOh Goldi's problem with me goes way back. Ask SKYDRIFTER.
#44. To: Brian S (#37)
Hell, even my dogs will lie to me now and then, but they are just 'white lies'.
#45. To: BeAChooser (#41)
Correcting misinformation and posting facts and sound logic is not arrogance.
#46. To: Brian S (#22)
Trust no one other than your pets.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
- - IndieTX
#47. To: christine (#31)
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He doesn't know how it's going to be spun as they've not given him a copy of the finished product.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
- - IndieTX
#48. To: BeALooser, scrapper2, christine (#10)
Find the 1 pixel gif in this post, scrapper. ROTFLOL!
"My my ... you spent a lot of time formating that post, America Hater. And said NOTHING."
Now how would Looser know how much time - or how little time - I was spending.
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
#49. To: BeAChooser (#40)
I know the government lies to me all the time. Sometimes its for my own good.
#50. To: BeAChooser (#23)
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#51. To: Diana (#35)
I think BAC is just obsessed with 911, and can't stand thinking that his govt would lie to him. There are some people like that.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#52. To: BeAChooser (#27)
>PS: All that being said, there are sometimes when I drift into a melancholy mood and think they could probably load us into boxcars by the thousands and no one would give a shit.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#53. To: BeAChooser (#40)
I know the government lies to me all the time.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#54. To: BeAChooser (#23)
Instead of responding in kind, FD4UMers have used the bozo filter in large numbers to avoid reading any of those posts, have thrown out mountains of adhominems and directed rivers of vulgar language at that poster, have begged that poster to leave, have called for his banning, and are now suggesting without any proof whatsoever that he's part of some zionist conspiracy.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#55. To: scrapper2 (#30)
And it seems more than unusual that you'd be banned from LP for something so insignificent - what was it? criticizing GWB for his open borders policy or something minor like that? Is that all it took to push the LP mod over the edge? It seems so strange. Can you explain it better to me. And no I don't think anyone here believes you are part of a "Zionist conspiracy" - your words, not ours - but the timing of your departure and odd things coming up at LP - well it's all unsettling.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#56. To: AGAviator, BeAChooser (#48)
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#57. To: BeAChooser (#40)
I know the government lies to me all the time. Sometimes its for my own good.
#58. To: Brian S (#22)
Trust no one other than your pets.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#59. To: BeAChooser (#23)
Isn't it amazing that so many FD4UM members are anxious to get rid of a poster who has been courteous, who hasn't labeled anyone or called anyone a name while at FD4UM, who hasn't been the least bit vulgar, who has posted hundreds of sourced facts about topics that should be of interest, and who has been willing to debate their accuracy whenever challenged?
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
#60. To: BeAChooser (#11)
#61. To: FormerLurker, ALL (#55)
Ooser got banned because he was badgering Goldi on a amnesty bill thread to ban Uncle Bill, Scivener, TwentyTwelve, and any other "kooks" he could think of, including me.
#62. To: AGAviator, ALL (#59)
It's about your obnoxious, thread-spamming, and frequently irrelevant remarks which you repeat over, and over, and over, and over - combined with a shameless acceptance of any claims the Bush Administation has to make explaining its actions.
#63. To: BeAChooser (#62)
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
#64. To: AGAviator, ALL (#63)
Your use of that chart on this thread is a perfect example of your thread- spamming.
#65. To: BeAChooser (#64)
Post #92
"Since 9/11, the GDP of the US has increased by something on the order of 2 TRILLION dollars a year."
"You clearly made the claim that the rise in government expenditures was responsible for the tremendous increase in GDP (to the tune of 2 billion a year) by the end of the five years since 9/11."
"You made the claim that the 2 trillion dollar increase per year in GDP is mostly government spending."
"Yet, the GDP has gone from about 10 billion to about 12 billion a year ... a 20 percent increase"
“Obviously I meant $2 trillion"
“Total government spending… was roughly 2.75 trillion dollars. A 33 percent increase would amount to 900 million
"OK. So I was wrong...Big deal. "
“But it is clearly what I meant" [!!]
“So my language was sloppy. Sue me."
“I meant billion. Sue me."
“I'm just tired"
You were off by a factor of a thousand.
BeALooser posted on 2006-06-29 19:16:07 ET
BeALooser posted on 2007-01-21 17:27:20 ET
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
#66. To: AGAviator, ALL (#65)
No, that would be these
"American soldiers are going to die whether we are in Iraq or not. That's one of the facts the American public needs to face.."
“ a country this size can't sustain 9 KIA a day in a global war."
#67. To: BeAChooser (#66)
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a. "American soldiers are going to die whether we are in Iraq or not. That's one of the facts the American public needs to face.."
#68. To: scrapper2 (#67)
We fought in World War II along against nations with standing armies in uniforms that had declared war on us. Iraq did not declare war on us.
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
#69. To: scrapper2, AGAviator, all (#67)
Uh...why would our soldiers die whether we were in Iraq or not?
Why should we be wanting to sustain a loss of 9 KIA a day
#70. To: BeAChooser (#69)
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The why is not the issue here. AGAviator (and you?) object to the notion that this country could sustain 9 KIA a day for years and years?
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#71. To: AGAviator, scrapper, ALL (#68)
And within 6 months both the Battle of the Coral Sea and the Battle of Midway were won, and within 18 months the person responsible for Pearl Harbor - Admiral Yamamoto - was located and killed.
#72. To: BeAChooser (#56)
I suspect who YOUR friends are is very important.
#73. To: RickyJ, AGAviator, ALL (#70)
We could sustain a lot more than that, but we can't sustain the monetary costs per day for this war.
#74. To: BeAChooser (#69)
BEFORE we invaded Iraq, al-Zarqawi, operating out of Iraq, was plotting attacks against US allies and Americans. One such plot hoped to kill every American in the US embassy in Amman. What would you have done about him and his associates, given that Saddam was showing no willingness to stop him?
#75. To: Diana, AGAviator, all (#72)
What did you mean when you said that to AGAviator on that LP thread?
#76. To: BeAChooser (#69)
Thousands and thousands of islamo-fanatics have gone to Iraq ... and died there.
If they weren't attacking us there, they'd likely be causing trouble elsewhere.
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
#77. To: BeAChooser, RickyJ (#73)
WW2 cost 130 percent of GDP. Even at AGAviator's two trillion, the Iraq war would only be a 5 to 10 percent of current GDP.
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
#78. To: BeAChooser (#75)
Did you read the thread in question, Diana? The answer lies within...
#79. To: BeAChooser (#71)
And if the American media reported those deaths, those expenses, and the costly progress of the war the same as they've reported Iraq, do you honestly think American morale would have been as high as it was?
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
#80. To: scrapper2, AGAviator, ALL (#74)
why SHOULD we sustain 9 KIA American citizens for a war
Your Zarqawi tale ( even if it were true)
did not give us authority to invade Iraq, which was no threat to our nation.
We invaded Iraq for Israel
the defense industry and oil industry were served as secondary interests
#81. To: AGAviator, ALL (#77)
"WW2 cost 130 percent of GDP. Even at AGAviator's two trillion, the Iraq war would only be 5 to 10 percent of current GDP."
False.
#82. To: Diana, SmokinOPs, scrapper2, ALL (#78)
And when Scrapper2 said something about being taken away in a boxcar, and you said you would care, did you mean you'd care as in you'd be against it,
#83. To: AGAviator, ALL (#79)
The fact is, within 6 months the US was on its way to winning because they had some political and military leadership who knew how to lead.
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