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Title: U.S. Reports Five Soldiers Killed In Iraq
Source: United Press International
URL Source: http://www.postchronicle.com/news/b ... ingnews/article_21268681.shtml
Published: Mar 12, 2007
Author: UPI
Post Date: 2007-03-12 13:26:55 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 2713
Comments: 96

Mar 12, 2007

The U.S. military said Monday five of its soldiers were killed and two others were injured in separate incidents in Iraq on Sunday.

Three of the deaths were not combat-related, Kuwait's KUNA news agency reported.

In Baghdad, gunmen opened fire on the motorcade of Iraq's minister of agriculture, killing one of his bodyguards and injuring another, CNN reported.

Security officials said 21 bodies had been found scattered around the city on Sunday, most of which showed signs of torture.

Sectarian fighting between Shiite and Sunni Muslims has plagued the Iraqi government's attempts at reconstruction for more than 14 months.

About 60 miles from Baghdad in Muqdadiya, a New York Times correspondent said sectarian fighting turned to arson during the weekend. As many as 100 homes and other buildings were torched, the report said.

Victims from both sects blamed Sunni extremists who have taken over several towns in the area and are demanding protection money, the report said. (c) UPI

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Sectarian fighting between Shiite and Sunni Muslims has plagued the Iraqi government's attempts at reconstruction for more than 14 months.

Sectarian violence has kept the number of attacks on US troops down as insurgents have to allocate resources, time, and manpower to fighting each other. So, in other words, the US occupation benefits from this violence and is more than likely responsible for many of these "Car bombs".

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-03-12   13:32:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sectarian fighting between Shiite and Sunni Muslims has plagued the Iraqi government's attempts at reconstruction for more than 14 months.

Sectarian violence has kept the number of attacks on US troops down as insurgents have to allocate resources, time, and manpower to fighting each other. So, in other words, the US occupation benefits from this violence and is more than likely responsible for many of these "Car bombs".

BAC was busy defending the use of white phosphorus and DU, so he asked me to handle his response to you.

So typical of you, Burqaman, to resort to innuendo and slander against our troops when you have no evidence of wrongdoing. You have no evidence that Negroponte ordered Shia death squads to operate against Sunni. It was just a coincidence that Blackbridge went to Iraq and Iraq went to hell. And the rumors about the "Salvador option" are baseless slanders that have unjustly and tragically kept Negroponte from enjoying vacations in Central America for years. While you hide behind your keyboard and smugly ask "cui bono?", our brave troops are fighting and dying and playing video games in the holy ground of American sacrifice. Why do you hate America?

How's that, BAC? This time, I don't want to hear about a pipeline or a backlog; I want that check in my mailbox tomorrow.

leveller  posted on  2007-03-12   17:06:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

BAC was busy defending the use of white phosphorus and DU

Has he really tried to defend this?

robin  posted on  2007-03-12   17:16:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

leveller - BAC was busy defending the use of white phosphorus and DU

Has he really tried to defend this?

... when its use will save the life of our soldiers.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-12   19:25:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

leveller - BAC was busy defending the use of white phosphorus and DU

Has he really tried to defend this?

... when its use will save the life of our soldiers.

It was worse than I had remembered!

leveller  posted on  2007-03-12   20:57:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

... when its use will save the life of our soldiers.

It was worse than I had remembered!

DU is killing our soldiers. White phosphorus has underlined our new reputation as war criminals, so Israel isn't the only war criminals anymore.

robin  posted on  2007-03-12   21:42:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

DU is killing our soldiers.

Your proof for this?

Because health physicists ... who are the experts in such matters ... say it isn't.

In fact, I couldn't find one who says it does.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-12   22:15:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Your proof for this?

Give this a listen:

Father grieves the death of his soldier-son from toxic DU poisoning

Arator  posted on  2007-03-12   23:21:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Give this a listen:

Give this a read:

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THe collective wisdom of the Health Physics Society:

http://hps.org/documents/dufactsheet.pdf

Are there any health effects associated with exposure to DU?

DU behavior in the body is identical to that of natural uranium. Uranium and DU are considered internal hazards. Therefore, inhalation and/or ingestion of these materials should be minimized.

In general, natural U and DU are considered chemical health hazards, rather than radiation hazards. The exception is the case where DU is inhaled in the form of tiny insoluble particles, which lodge in the lungs and remain there for very long times. DU is less of a radiation hazard than natural U because it is less radioactive than natural U. Direct (external) radiation from DU is very low and only of concern to workers who melt and cast U metal.

DU used in commercial civilian applications does not present a significant health hazard because it is usually in solid form and not available for inhalation or ingestion. Military operations with DU, however, may contaminate soil, groundwater, and breathing air. When used as a weapon, small particles of DU may be produced. These particles have high density and most fall to the ground very close to where they are produced.

Studies have been made of workers and other persons who have ingested or inhaled uranium. There is no known association between low-level DU exposure and adverse health effects, including birth defects. In large quantities, DU exposure can cause skin or lung irritation, but only soldiers in the immediate vicinity of an attack that involves DU are potentially exposed to these levels of contamination. People who live or work in areas affected by DU activities may inhale or consume contaminated air, food, or water. Soldiers with wounds containing fragments of DU shrapnel may develop effects at the wound sites. However, the risks to these sites decrease quickly once the DU is removed. Persons exposed to very large inhalation doses of uranium have shown minor, transitory kidney effects, which typically disappear within days to a few weeks after exposure. Persons inhaling insoluble particulates that lodge in the lung may be at elevated risk of developing lung cancer many years later, particularly if they are smokers. But lung cancer has yet to be demonstrated in uranium workers or others exposed acutely or chronically to uranium.

A group of Gulf War veterans who have small DU fragments still in their bodies continue to be followed by government scientists to determine whether there will be long-term health effects. As of early 2005, only subtle but clinically insignificant changes in measures of kidney function have been observed. One common observation is a persistent elevation in the amount of uranium measured in the urine more than 10 years after exposure. This reflects the continued presence of DU in wound sites and its ongoing low-level mobilization and absorption to blood.

In summary, some minor health problems have been observed following exposure to DU, but ONLY with high levels of exposure. Exposures to airborne DU or to contaminated soil following military use are not known to cause any observable health or reproductive effects.

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-13   0:21:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

What kind of wierd government front is HPS? They appear to be oblivious to radiation dangers generally. For example, their advice to pregnant mothers is to nuke their developing babies with x-rays. Nothing to worry about, according to HPS:

I am not pregnant now, but will an x ray or radionuclide medical test cause my child to have birth defects in the future?

There is no evidence that your child will be at a greater risk for birth defects from x rays or radionuclide medical tests. This conclusion is based on extensive studies of women exposed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki and women given x rays, radionuclide medical tests, and other radiation procedures.

Unreal.

Arator  posted on  2007-03-13   0:36:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q1101.html

Q: What is your opinion, as a professional health physicist, about the use of depleted uranium (DU) ammunition in war operations?

A: Human health risks from exposure to DU can be broadly categorized in terms of radiological or chemical toxicity. Because of DU's low radioactivity or specific activity, a very high exposure is required to increase the radiological risk. For example, an acute inhalation of gram quantities of respirable DU aerosol would be needed. This would only be possible for soldiers present in armored vehicles struck by DU penetrators. Exposure of the general public to environmentally dispersed DU may pose a risk of chemical toxicity depending on the level of exposure, primarily from ingestion. At a recent experts' workshop on DU in the Balkans (Bad Honnef Germany; see the Health Physics Society's Newsletter, September 2001 for details), United Nations scientists studying the environmental behavior of DU showed that DU dissolving from penetrators embedded in soil did not migrate more than 20 cm from the source and that a very small fraction of the DU had dissolved. They did not find any DU contamination in milk, well water, houses, or vehicles in areas where DU munitions were used, nor was any DU measured in urine samples taken from soldiers who were deployed in regions where DU was used. Because evidence indicates that human exposures to DU will be very small, and that these levels will be small fractions of the public's routine exposure to natural uranium, predicted health effects appear to be inconceivable.

Raymond A. Guilmette, PhD

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-13   0:40:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#43. To: BeAChooser (#32)

I would not trust sources on DU that are paid for by the military or anything connected to it.

I would look for objective established sources which are easy enough to find in various reference books.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-14 17:45:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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