[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

10 Supplements That Fight Inflammation CNN Security Analyst Defends Agents Who Removed Senator Padilla From Kristi Noem Presser Florida sheriff warns rioters: 'We will kill you graveyard dead' DEMOCRATS' NIGHTMARE: Viral Video Shows Why They LOST The Election! Israeli strikes on Iran. Five Waves. Might last 2 weeks? Images Emerge Of Tehran Destruction After Major Israeli 'Preemptive Attack' This Is What Happens Next After Israel Bombs Iran’s Nuclear Facilities… Smartmatic accused of deleting evidence in 27 Billion Fox News Defamation Case Court Docs White House Fears Iranian Response To An Attack Could Overwhelm Israel's Air Defenses The Money and Power Behind the Riots: This is No Grass-Roots Movement D.C. Judge Sides With Trump In Lawsuit Over Control Of Corrupt Foreign Aid Agency Israel Iran Double Standard Soros Funneled $8.3M into Leftist Group Trying to Turn Lone Star State Blue California Democrats Under Fire for Buying Bricks During Protests ICE Launches Campaign to Crack Down on Marriage Fraud Could Ilhan Omar Finally Face Justice? Joe Rogan's podcast predicted violent LA riots two years ago leaving viewers stunned Anti-migrant rioters shouting 'f*** off foreigners!' Amazing things happen when you actually cut government spending. 25 Vaccine Death Stories To Share In Social Media The White House just posted this: US Anticipating Potential Israeli Attack on Iran Grok Is Using a Far-Left Fact Check website to Smear and Censor Conservative Outlets on X Over 300 UK Foreign Office staff told to consider resigning if they disagree with government's Gaza policy Jimmy Dore: Here’s How Israel’s Massacres At Aid Sites Work! Iran successfully tests missile with 2-ton warhead Liberal Teachers Union Presidents Rally Behind LA Rioters Ilhan Omars Daughter Applauds Anti-ICE Riots, Urges Death to Colonial Empire: U.S. and Israel One Oppressor California Leaders Want United Nations Blue Helmets to Expel Federal Forces from the State Tulsi Gabbard Warns of “Nuclear Holocaust” in Chilling 3-Minute Plea LBMA Silver Short Position Now 2nd Largest In History

War, War, War
See other War, War, War Articles

Title: U.S. Reports Five Soldiers Killed In Iraq
Source: United Press International
URL Source: http://www.postchronicle.com/news/b ... ingnews/article_21268681.shtml
Published: Mar 12, 2007
Author: UPI
Post Date: 2007-03-12 13:26:55 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1420
Comments: 96

Mar 12, 2007

The U.S. military said Monday five of its soldiers were killed and two others were injured in separate incidents in Iraq on Sunday.

Three of the deaths were not combat-related, Kuwait's KUNA news agency reported.

In Baghdad, gunmen opened fire on the motorcade of Iraq's minister of agriculture, killing one of his bodyguards and injuring another, CNN reported.

Security officials said 21 bodies had been found scattered around the city on Sunday, most of which showed signs of torture.

Sectarian fighting between Shiite and Sunni Muslims has plagued the Iraqi government's attempts at reconstruction for more than 14 months.

About 60 miles from Baghdad in Muqdadiya, a New York Times correspondent said sectarian fighting turned to arson during the weekend. As many as 100 homes and other buildings were torched, the report said.

Victims from both sects blamed Sunni extremists who have taken over several towns in the area and are demanding protection money, the report said. (c) UPI

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  

Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 33.

#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Sectarian fighting between Shiite and Sunni Muslims has plagued the Iraqi government's attempts at reconstruction for more than 14 months.

Sectarian violence has kept the number of attacks on US troops down as insurgents have to allocate resources, time, and manpower to fighting each other. So, in other words, the US occupation benefits from this violence and is more than likely responsible for many of these "Car bombs".

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-03-12   13:32:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sectarian fighting between Shiite and Sunni Muslims has plagued the Iraqi government's attempts at reconstruction for more than 14 months.

Sectarian violence has kept the number of attacks on US troops down as insurgents have to allocate resources, time, and manpower to fighting each other. So, in other words, the US occupation benefits from this violence and is more than likely responsible for many of these "Car bombs".

BAC was busy defending the use of white phosphorus and DU, so he asked me to handle his response to you.

So typical of you, Burqaman, to resort to innuendo and slander against our troops when you have no evidence of wrongdoing. You have no evidence that Negroponte ordered Shia death squads to operate against Sunni. It was just a coincidence that Blackbridge went to Iraq and Iraq went to hell. And the rumors about the "Salvador option" are baseless slanders that have unjustly and tragically kept Negroponte from enjoying vacations in Central America for years. While you hide behind your keyboard and smugly ask "cui bono?", our brave troops are fighting and dying and playing video games in the holy ground of American sacrifice. Why do you hate America?

How's that, BAC? This time, I don't want to hear about a pipeline or a backlog; I want that check in my mailbox tomorrow.

leveller  posted on  2007-03-12   17:06:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

BAC was busy defending the use of white phosphorus and DU

Has he really tried to defend this?

robin  posted on  2007-03-12   17:16:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

leveller - BAC was busy defending the use of white phosphorus and DU

Has he really tried to defend this?

... when its use will save the life of our soldiers.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-12   19:25:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

leveller - BAC was busy defending the use of white phosphorus and DU

Has he really tried to defend this?

... when its use will save the life of our soldiers.

It was worse than I had remembered!

leveller  posted on  2007-03-12   20:57:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

... when its use will save the life of our soldiers.

It was worse than I had remembered!

DU is killing our soldiers. White phosphorus has underlined our new reputation as war criminals, so Israel isn't the only war criminals anymore.

robin  posted on  2007-03-12   21:42:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

DU is killing our soldiers.

Your proof for this?

Because health physicists ... who are the experts in such matters ... say it isn't.

In fact, I couldn't find one who says it does.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-12   22:15:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Your proof for this?

Give this a listen:

Father grieves the death of his soldier-son from toxic DU poisoning

Arator  posted on  2007-03-12   23:21:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Give this a listen:

Give this a read:

***************

THe collective wisdom of the Health Physics Society:

http://hps.org/documents/dufactsheet.pdf

Are there any health effects associated with exposure to DU?

DU behavior in the body is identical to that of natural uranium. Uranium and DU are considered internal hazards. Therefore, inhalation and/or ingestion of these materials should be minimized.

In general, natural U and DU are considered chemical health hazards, rather than radiation hazards. The exception is the case where DU is inhaled in the form of tiny insoluble particles, which lodge in the lungs and remain there for very long times. DU is less of a radiation hazard than natural U because it is less radioactive than natural U. Direct (external) radiation from DU is very low and only of concern to workers who melt and cast U metal.

DU used in commercial civilian applications does not present a significant health hazard because it is usually in solid form and not available for inhalation or ingestion. Military operations with DU, however, may contaminate soil, groundwater, and breathing air. When used as a weapon, small particles of DU may be produced. These particles have high density and most fall to the ground very close to where they are produced.

Studies have been made of workers and other persons who have ingested or inhaled uranium. There is no known association between low-level DU exposure and adverse health effects, including birth defects. In large quantities, DU exposure can cause skin or lung irritation, but only soldiers in the immediate vicinity of an attack that involves DU are potentially exposed to these levels of contamination. People who live or work in areas affected by DU activities may inhale or consume contaminated air, food, or water. Soldiers with wounds containing fragments of DU shrapnel may develop effects at the wound sites. However, the risks to these sites decrease quickly once the DU is removed. Persons exposed to very large inhalation doses of uranium have shown minor, transitory kidney effects, which typically disappear within days to a few weeks after exposure. Persons inhaling insoluble particulates that lodge in the lung may be at elevated risk of developing lung cancer many years later, particularly if they are smokers. But lung cancer has yet to be demonstrated in uranium workers or others exposed acutely or chronically to uranium.

A group of Gulf War veterans who have small DU fragments still in their bodies continue to be followed by government scientists to determine whether there will be long-term health effects. As of early 2005, only subtle but clinically insignificant changes in measures of kidney function have been observed. One common observation is a persistent elevation in the amount of uranium measured in the urine more than 10 years after exposure. This reflects the continued presence of DU in wound sites and its ongoing low-level mobilization and absorption to blood.

In summary, some minor health problems have been observed following exposure to DU, but ONLY with high levels of exposure. Exposures to airborne DU or to contaminated soil following military use are not known to cause any observable health or reproductive effects.

*************

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-13   0:21:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

What kind of wierd government front is HPS? They appear to be oblivious to radiation dangers generally. For example, their advice to pregnant mothers is to nuke their developing babies with x-rays. Nothing to worry about, according to HPS:

I am not pregnant now, but will an x ray or radionuclide medical test cause my child to have birth defects in the future?

There is no evidence that your child will be at a greater risk for birth defects from x rays or radionuclide medical tests. This conclusion is based on extensive studies of women exposed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki and women given x rays, radionuclide medical tests, and other radiation procedures.

Unreal.

Arator  posted on  2007-03-13   0:36:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

How about this document from our health conscious Canadian friends?

************

http://www.forces.gc.ca/health/information/med_vaccs/engraph/DU_Backgrounder_e.asp

"... snip ...

A souvenir hunter who picked up a piece of depleted uranium penetrator rod (the core of large DU munitions) and carried it in his pocket for a few days would receive a relatively high dose of short-range beta radiation to the skin adjacent to the souvenir. But it would not be enough to cause a burn - much less a significantly elevated risk of skin cancer"

"In the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists the authors tried to estimate the possible external gamma-radiation levels on the battlefield by assuming that 100 tons of depleted uranium had been distributed uniformly over a one-kilometer-wide strip along 100 kilometers of the "Highway of Death" between Kuwait City and Basra, a city in southern Iraq. The average dose for someone who lived in the area for a year would be about one mrem - or about 10 percent of the dose from uranium and its decay products already naturally occurring in the soil. The dose rate immediately around a destroyed vehicle could be about 30 times higher. But even that figure would only add about 10 percent to the natural background radiation."

"The authors of the article in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists also note "For perspective, the driver of a tank equipped with DU munitions would get dose rates of up to 5 times natural background, corresponding to a doubling of the background dose if the driver spent 40 hours per week in the tank all year."

Depending upon the nature of the impact, a significant fraction of a DU penetrator can burn, oxidizing into an inhalable aerosol. If we assume that 20 percent of the depleted uranium burns, a reasonable estimate based on army tests, the impact of a heavy DU penetrator might generate a kilogram of uranium oxide aerosol

For soldiers outside struck vehicles, the aerosol inhaled in the minutes immediately after a vehicle struck by DU munitions would be greatly reduced by the fact that the kinetic energy was turned into heat by the impact. For a heavy penetrator, the released energy would be equivalent to the explosion of up to a kilogram of TNT, lifting the DU aerosol upward on a column of hot air. Because of this vertical dilution, the amount of depleted uranium inhaled by a person nearby would probably not exceed 0.1 milligrams. The dose to a person a mile away directly downwind would be about ten times less.

The main cancer risk from inhaled depleted uranium would be from tiny insoluble particles lodged deep in the lungs. According to the inhalation-retention model constructed by the International Commission on Radiation Protection (ICRP), 15 percent of an insoluble inhaled uranium oxide aerosol could be retained in the lungs for more than a year.

However, because of the low radioactivity of depleted uranium, the radiation dose would be quite low. For someone close to the battle who inhaled one milligram of depleted uranium - an unlikely scenario - the equivalent whole-body dose would be up to 0.1 rem. That is roughly half the annual dose from inhaled radon and its decay products in a typical single family home in the United States. The estimated added risk of cancer death for such a dose would be about one in 20,000. (To put things in perspective, we in the United States have a one-in five risk of dying of cancer)."

Depleted uranium ammunition is shielded, which further reduces its radiological hazard. The Defence Radiological Protection Service in the UK has stated "The external radiation hazard would arise from personnel being in close proximity to DU and is concerned mainly with beta, gamma and x-ray radiation. The alpha radiation poses no external hazard to intact skin. AWE and DRPS have conducted measurements of external radiation levels inside tanks to establish the external radiation exposure. These demonstrate that personnel would need to be in a fully DU loaded tank for 1500 hours before they would reach the annual whole body dose limit (50 mSv). There is no significant external hazard to personnel working with and exposed to DU ammunition in armament depots or stores. Over 5000 hours of exposure to DU would be required before the current dose limit for exposure of the whole body (50 mSv) would be exceeded. The main external radiation hazard from DU is from contact with bare skin. The current dose limit to the skin will only be exceeded if the skin remains in contact continuously with DU for more than 250 hours per year.

Naomi H. Harley is an authority on radiation physics. She earned her Ph.D. in radiological physics at the New York University where she is currently a research professor at the University's School of Medicine, Department of Environmental Medicine. She has authored or co-authored more than 100 peer-reviewed journal articles on radiation exposure, with emphasis on natural background radiation. She has written six chapters in books dealing with radiation or toxicology and holds three patents for radiation measurement devices. She is a council member on the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements, an advisor to the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation, and an editor of the journal Environment International.

In commenting on reports of some doctors finding traces of depleted uranium in the urines of service members years after any possible exposure, Dr. Harley notes this would only be possible if the military members had depleted uranium fragments embedded in their bodies. She comments on the issue of some veterans being convinced that fragments could be inhaled particles lodged in their lungs by stating "It's hard to imagine that anybody could have inhaled enough material so that it could still be there eight or nine years later, enough so that you could see the amount being dissolved and then getting into the urine."

Harley says she's heard people project that the use of depleted uranium will cause tens of thousands of new cancers in Gulf War veterans and Iraqi citizens, but says such projections frighten veterans unnecessarily because there is no scientific support for such claims. "There is no way you can get enough uranium into the body to cause even one cancer. You can't inhale it, you can't ingest it. You would choke to death before you could inhale that much material."

*******************

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-13   0:44:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#34. To: BeAChooser (#33)

Do you think we should start putting DU in our drinking water and in our toothpaste, boozer? It sounds like a tonic of sorts.

Do you wash with DU water in Tel Aviv everyday?

scrapper2  posted on  2007-03-13 01:11:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]