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Title: WTC7 The Smoking Gun of 9/11 (updated)
Source: dailymotion
URL Source: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1 ... the-smoking-gun-of-911-updated
Published: Mar 12, 2007
Author: by11september
Post Date: 2007-03-12 18:33:59 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 410
Comments: 37

WTC7 The Smoking Gun of 9/11 (updated)


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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

I dare these guys to actually tell the truth and carry a Sign saying, "ISRAEL ENGINEERED 9-11." They could be followed by a sign saying, "ISRAEL MURDERED JFK."

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2007-03-12   19:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Excellent video.

ratcat  posted on  2007-03-13   0:31:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, ALL (#0)

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-13   0:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

If only we could organize and carry out a revolution in even twice the time these criminals spent carrying out this atrocity - we'd reclaim OUR country!!!!

LETS ROLL!!!

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-03-13   0:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BeAChooser (#3) (Edited)

UH YEAH.... Fire.... I know...

OH, and debris...

You SATANIST, LOOK AT THE VIDEO.

OH, my bad..... You HAVE looked at the video... The commentary is only from REAL PEOPLE - WAY beneath you and your ilk...

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-03-13   0:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#4)

If only we could organize and carry out a revolution in even twiceTEN TIMES the time these criminals spent carrying out this atrocity - we'd reclaim OUR country!!!!

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-03-13   1:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Horse (#1) (Edited)

I dare these guys to actually tell the truth and carry a Sign saying, "ISRAEL ENGINEERED 9-11." They could be followed by a sign saying, "ISRAEL MURDERED JFK."

And one that says "backed by BeAChooser" "Choose to ignore the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and CHOOSE EDOMITES"

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-03-13   1:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: innieway, ALL (#5)

You SATANIST

You just couldn't help yourself, could you.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-13   23:27:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, *9-11* (#0)

Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)

robin  posted on  2007-03-13   23:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BeAChooser (#3) (Edited)

post another transparent image and you're gone.

christine  posted on  2007-03-13   23:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#10) (Edited)

It looks like a video that didn't load. But weird things are showing up on the status bar of my firefox, like loading somethinge called... well if forgot now, let me post this and see what it says again.

OK one was: Transfering data from http://logc25.xiti.com and the other was: Transfering data from http://stat3.cybermonitor.com

Do either of those mean anything to you? Those domains don't show up in the page source anywhere.


A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!

Critter  posted on  2007-03-14   0:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Critter (#11)

i looked and the image was deliberately posted as transparent. no reason to do that, imo, other than to make other posters leery.

christine  posted on  2007-03-14   0:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#12)

Oh I get it now, that is a setting he changed to make it a big blank space. OK.


A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!

Critter  posted on  2007-03-14   0:55:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine, BeAChooser (#12)

The BeALoser I know would be too stupid to think of that on his own, unless he is a gov't shill that just plays stupid.


A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!

Critter  posted on  2007-03-14   0:57:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine, ALL (#10)

post another transparent image and you're gone.

I'm not sure what you mean by that, christine? That's a short video clip from south park making fun of the 9/11 conspiracy theories. What is wrong with that? Please, explain what you mean by "transparent image" so I can comply.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-14   1:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Critter, christine, ALL (#11)

It looks like a video that didn't load.

I had no trouble with it. It comes up saying Hot Air in the area where the video will play ... IF you click the play button on the bottom of it.

Below is the html I used to post the video clip (san's the beginning and ending < and > characters.

embed src="http://hotair.cachefly.net/video/flvplayer.swf?file=http://hotair.cachefly.net/video/2006-09/sp9111Mbps.flv&autoStart=false;" quality="high" wmode="transparent" width="320" height="260" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" /

It works on my computer without a problem. Are you saying that all the times I've posted this, it hasn't been working or that suddenly it has stopped working on your computers?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-14   1:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Critter, christine, ALL (#14)

The BeALoser I know would be too stupid to think of that on his own,

I admit I didn't. I just copied the technique from another 4um poster who was posting a utube video and inserted the video link I wanted to show on the forum.

Is this better?

I copied that from the video posted in the subject of this thread. It uses the following html sans the < and > characters.

embed allowfullscreen="true" height=496 src="http://hotair.cachefly.net/video/flvplayer.swf?file=http://hotair.cachefly.net/video/2006-09/sp9111Mbps.flv&autoStart=false;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width=640>

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-14   1:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#17)

Actually not sans the > character.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-14   1:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: BeAChooser (#16)

In the first instance, nothing shows, in the second, just a white square box shows.


A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!

Critter  posted on  2007-03-14   1:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Critter, christine, ALL (#19)

In the first instance, nothing shows, in the second, just a white square box shows.

Looks and plays fine on my system. Perhaps an upgrade is in order?

But I'll experiment a bit when I get the time incase the problem is at my end ...

Hopefully, christine won't think I'm trying anything ...

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-14   1:42:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: BeAChooser, robin, critter, christine (#16) (Edited)

It comes up saying Hot Air in the area where the video will play...

Are you saying that all the times I've posted this,

There you go, BAC, you've figured out the problem.

Too many times of posting = ends up being a blank screen of Hot Air.

Don't pout, you little botbunny. Mommy loves you anyway.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-03-14   1:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: BeAChooser (#15)

ok, here's what you posted. notice the "transparent" at the end. were you not aware that was there?

< embed height=260 pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" quality="high" src=http://hotair.cachefly.net/video/flvplayer.swf? file=http://hotair.cachefly.net/video/2006-09/sp9111Mbps.flv&autoStart=false;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width=320 wmode="transparent >

christine  posted on  2007-03-14   10:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: christine, ALL (#22)

ok, here's what you posted. notice the "transparent" at the end. were you not aware that was there?

I see it, christine. Now tell me it's significance.

And does this html meet your approval for posting videos? (sans a < and > at the beginning and end).

embed allowfullscreen="true" height=496 src="http://hotair.cachefly.net/video/flvplayer.swf?file=http://hotair.cachefly.net/video/2006-09/sp9111Mbps.flv&autoStart=false;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width=640

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-14   10:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: beachooser, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#3)

#3

What was this supposed to be?


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-14   10:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: BeAChooser (#23)

the significance is it makes the video/image invisible to everyone else. you can embed the video/image without "transparent" and it shows up. i see you've got "transparent" in your original post, but when you've copied and pasted what you posted to the board, the word "transparent" has been omitted. is that clear?

christine  posted on  2007-03-14   10:25:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SKYDRIFTER (#24)

it's a Southpark episode video about 911.

christine  posted on  2007-03-14   10:27:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: christine (#26)

Thanks. He's getting to be a lot of trouble. Notice there are no apologies, in his game.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-14   10:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: BeAChooser (#8)

so you are a satanist - you admit it now. finally. thanks.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-03-14   10:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine, ALL (#25)

the significance is it makes the video/image invisible to everyone else. you can embed the video/image without "transparent" and it shows up. i see you've got "transparent" in your original post, but when you've copied and pasted what you posted to the board, the word "transparent" has been omitted. is that clear?

I said that THIS html (sans < and > characters at the beginning and end)

embed src="http://hotair.cachefly.net/video/flvplayer.swf?file=http://hotair.cachefly.net/video/2006-09/sp9111Mbps.flv&autoStart=false;" quality="high" wmode="transparent" width="320" height="260" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" /

is what I used originally. And that I copied the technique from another 4um poster (I don't remember who and I don't care to go back and look) who was posting a utube video to this forum at the time. I took it and inserted the video link I wanted to show on the forum. It worked ok in preview so I have posted it perhaps half a dozen times without complaints from anyone.

Now, as to the second set of html that I listed (sans the < and > characters at the beginning and end)

embed allowfullscreen="true" height=496 src="http://hotair.cachefly.net/video/flvplayer.swf?file=http://hotair.cachefly.net/video/2006-09/sp9111Mbps.flv&autoStart=false;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width=640

it is what Itisa1mosttoolate used to post the video he placed in the threads subject article (except that I inserted the location of the video I wanted to play). Does that clarify things? Is this html acceptable to you? Or would you prefer the original html but without the "wmode="transparent""?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-14   11:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Red Jones, christine, ALL (#28)

you are a satanist

That does deserve a laugh. ROTFLOL!

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-14   11:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: BeAChooser (#29)

you just need to experiment a little in the 'preview' mode before you press post.

but your failure to address my concern in 28 and your response to Innieway in #8 proves that you are a satanist. This means that all of your arguments in all other discussions are void.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-03-14   11:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Red Jones, ALL (#31)

you just need to experiment a little in the 'preview' mode before you press post.

I did use preview mode before posting the video. Worked fine.

but your failure to address my concern in 28 and your response to Innieway in #8 proves that you are a satanist. This means that all of your arguments in all other discussions are void.

ROTFLOL! (sorry, christine, can't help it in this case).

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-14   11:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: BeAChooser (#29)

without the "transparent" designation is fine. iow, the video or image must post for all to see what it is. i still can't figure out where you got the transparent mode from to begin with. no one else's html for embedding youtubes have posted like that.

christine  posted on  2007-03-14   11:41:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine, Zipporah, ALL (#33)

without the "transparent" designation is fine. iow, the video or image must post for all to see what it is. i still can't figure out where you got the transparent mode from to begin with. no one else's html for embedding youtubes have posted like that.

Ok. I don't remember whose post I used as the template, but it wasn't hard to find a case of someone else on 4um posting a video with wmode = "transparent". See post 25 of this thread: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=45589&Disp=All&#C133 The post is by Zipporah and uses this html (sans the < and > at the beginning and end) to post a utube video:

embed height=350 src="http://www.youtube.com/v/pIqC610k1gY" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width=425 wmode="transparent"

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-14   11:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: beachooser, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#34)

Here are your "credentials," BAC!

Kevin Ryan probably was the first 9/11 whistleblower. A former Lab Director at Underwriters Laboratory — the company that actually tested, approved, and certified the steel used in the construction of the WTC towers — Kevin was amply rewarded for his honesty: he was summarily fired.

The reason for Mr. Ryan’s dismissal was a letter he wrote his boss challenging the official explanation for the collapse of the towers, which, as we all now know, attributed it to the softening of steel by jet fuel. The letter, to his superior Frank Gayle, deputy chief of the institute's metallurgy division, included the following statement:

"This story just does not add up. If steel from those buildings did soften or melt, I'm sure we can all agree that this was certainly not due to jet fuel fires of any kind, let alone the briefly burning fires in those towers."

The following powerful essay by Mr. Ryan covers much important, heretofore uncovered ground. It is a comprehensive, incisive indictment that blows the cover off the fraudulent understructure of ersatz ‘expertise’, high-level chicanery, corruption, and outright lies upon which the massive fraud of 9/11 was built and sold to the world.

It is an outstanding piece of straight-from-the-heart writing that should put to rest, once and for all, any and all arguments invoked in support of the OCT (Official Conspiracy Theory). I’ve no doubt portions of this document (or at least the pith of many of the highly incriminating facts it contains) will one day — hopefully very soon — be presented in court by the prosecution.

Have no doubt, my friends — one way or another, these murdering, all-devouring, heartless bastards will swing. We shall never forget the images of those unspeakably desperate souls leaping from the towers, plummeting to their deaths, spattering on the the sidewalks, many remaining alive for agonizingly long minutes, flailing in unimaginable agony...And the deaths of the thousands of others, their bodies shredded to bits the size of ground meat and flung onto rooftops hundreds of yards away...their passage might have been a little more merciful, but no less horrendous...

Think about it when you look at the faces of the real criminals as they smile remorselessly — gleefully — on television...and on the cover of Time as “Men of the year”...

Take heart: Pardons will not be an option on this one...

9/11: Looking for Truth in Credentials: The Peculiar WTC “Experts”

Kevin Ryan Global Research http://infow ars.net/articles/march2007/140307Credentials.htm Wednesday, March 14, 2007

When Matthew Rothschild, editor of the online magazine The Progressive, wrote an article called “Enough of the 9/11 Conspiracies, Already”, we all knew he was not talking about the conspiracy theory that the US government sells us to justify the expanding 9/11 Wars.[1] To the contrary, in writing that article Mr. Rothschild was selling that same theory himself. What he actually meant was that people should not question the US government’s story of terror because credentialed experts have been found to support it. But the fact is that the experts found to support the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 are predominantly those who profit from doing so. That’s not to say that all of these people were “part of the conspiracy”. But they are, whether consciously or not, a part of the cover-up. And that, of course, is the greater crime.

The Bush Administration employed a number of such credentialed experts to give us multiple explanations for the unprecedented destruction of three tall steel- framed buildings at the World Trade Center (WTC). Unfortunately, all of those explanations have proven to be false, and this fact reminds us that academic credentials don’t necessarily make a person more capable, or more likely, to tell the truth.

Exactly how they could find so many experts on the fire-induced collapse of tall buildings is not immediately clear, considering such an event had never happened before. But it did help that the questions were quickly framed as being solely matters of structural engineering, a sub-field of civil engineering, because structural engineers cannot find work without continual government approvals. A Chemistry laboratory manager like myself can work without permits or licenses, but people can’t just go out and build a bridge or a tall building on their own. The extensive paperwork necessary to complete civil engineering projects is obtained by working closely with, and staying on good terms with, local and national authorities. That fact may not be enough to ensure vocal support for the official story of “global collapse”, but it has been enough to keep most structural engineers from publicly opposing the intransigent government stance on the WTC events.

From where, then, has the vocal support come within the engineering community? Matthew Rothschild points to some interesting characters when he says that “I made a few calls myself”, including to Gene Corley and to Mete Sozen. Additionally, Rothschild says that he consulted “some of the top building design and engineering firms”, like Skidmore Owings & Merrill, and Greenhorne & O’Mara. To emphasize just how solid the government’s story is, he adds that he “also contacted engineering professors at MIT and other leading universities in the country, and none of them puts any stock in the 9/11 conspiracy theories.”

What Mr. Rothschild failed to tell us is that Gene Corley and Mete Sozen not only created the reports that he is defending, but have also, for many years, worked for the US Department of Defense (DOD) through the Blast Mitigation for Structures Program (BMSP). Since 1997, this program has provided the DOD with expertise in explosives, and has been funded at $10 million annually.[2] After 9/11, astronomical increases in DOD funding were likely to have benefited all DOD partners and programs, like DOD’s Nunn-Perry award winner, Greenhorne & O’Mara, and those involved with the BMSP. Of course, the DOD was probably already awash in black-budget funds prior to 9/11, as indicated by the missing trillions reported by the DOD on 9/10/01.[3]

Rothschild also failed to let us know that Skidmore Owings & Merrill (SOM), one of his independent engineering firms, is responsible for the architectural design of the new Freedom Tower. SOM gained that contract at the personal insistence of Larry Silverstein, the original owner of WTC 7 and the WTC towers’ leaseholder. Mr. Rothschild may also not be aware that William Baker, a top executive at SOM, was involved in several of the official WTC investigations and reports that have been generated. In any case it is clear that the “Freedom Tower” would not be the publicity-rich project it is today if an alternative explanation forced us to rename it the “There Goes Our Freedom Tower”.

Getting back to those experts at BMSP, we see that DOD employs a number of consulting firms to help out Corley and Sozen, in what is called the Blast Mitigation Action Group (BMAG), including ARUP, ARA, SAIC, SGH, Thornton- Tomasetti and Weidlinger Associates.[4] It should be noted that most of these firms were major contributors to the various official explanations for collapse of the WTC buildings, as well as being government contractors in fields related to terrorism. Strangely, despite their overwhelming expertise in the use of explosives, none of their explanations for the WTC events had anything to do with explosives.

That’s not to say that these characters never deal with explosives, however, as Corley and Sozen were two of the four members of the Oklahoma City (OKC) engineering investigation, along with Paul Mlakar and Charles Thornton. The work they did followed the damage estimates found within the Federal Emergency Management Administration’s (FEMA) OKC report, written by Greenhorne & O’Mara. Although none of these credentialed experts even toured the site at OKC, Corley and Sozen were able to produce an engineering report that was a highly questionable extrapolation of minimal evidence, primarily the size of a bomb crater, provided to them by the FBI.[5] Their report was created in support of the “One Guy, One Truck Bomb” political story that directly contradicted testimony given by several leading experts, including USAF General Benton Partin.

After spending 25 years dealing with explosive weaponry, General Partin independently studied the damage done to the Murrah building in the month before the evidence was destroyed, and made several strong statements to members of the US Congress. In July of 1995, General Partin wrote to Senator Trent Lott, stating, “The attached report contains conclusive proof that the bombing of the Aflred P. Murrah Federal Building…was not caused solely by the truck bomb. Evidence shows that the massive destruction was primarily the result of four demolition charges placed at critical structural points at the third floor level.” He added “No government law enforcement agency should be permitted to demolish, smash and bury evidence of a…terrorist attack without a thorough examination by an independent, technically competent agency.”[6]

When speaking about the unprecedented destruction of evidence, General Partin was referring to the demolition of the Murrah Building by Mark Loizeaux’s company, just five days after Partin made his strong statements directly to the US Congress. But Partin might as well have been talking about the WTC six years later, where much of the steel evidence was destroyed in the month before engineering investigators began inspecting the scene. It was noted by the House Committee on Science, as they reviewed early shortcomings of the WTC investigation, that, “Some of the critical pieces of steel…were gone before the first BPAT team member ever reached the site.”[7] At the time of this destruction of evidence, Gene Corley was in charge of the investigation and his OKC partner Charles Thornton’s company was in charge of the site at Ground Zero.

In any case, it is clear that Rothschild’s primary experts have a long history of involvement in US government interests, and in highly questionable engineering reports. But surely the “engineering professors at MIT and other leading universities in the country” could not all be so tied to US government interests. There must be some objective members within the group of scientists supporting the Bush Administration’s theories, and some agreement among scientists around the world.

The truth is that interpretation of the events at the WTC does include some agreement from all parties. We all agree that no tall steel-framed building in history has ever collapsed uniformly at nearly free-fall speed into a pile of rubble for any reason whatsoever, outside of demolition. And we’re in agreement that the first three occasions of such an event supposedly occurred all on the same day, all in the same place. To round out a quick agreement, we can all safely say that these improbable events were the emotional basis for the passing of legislation that had already been written (e.g. the Patriot Act), and for the invasion of several strategically-important countries, the plans for which were already in the works.

From there, however, the views of the government’s credentialed experts diverge from those who are more interested in objectively seeking the truth. The initial facts of agreement should lead any objective person to seek a detailed investigation that leaves no hypothesis un-examined. But for the government’s credentialed experts, only one hypothesis was worthy of consideration, a fire- based failure of all three buildings that jibed with the overall official version of the events of that day.

In support of that fire-based triple play, the experts gave us a progression of false stories. The media gave us the first false story, with help from PhD engineers, some of whom were contributors to the official reports. Eduardo Kausel, an “engineering professor at MIT” and contributor to the WTC report generated by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), suggested to us in Scientific American that this catastrophe was probably due to the jet fuel fires melting the steel in the buildings.[8] He was joined in this early theory by a handful of other PhD engineers and professors around the country, and by the US government’s top suspect - Osama Bin Laden. The US State Department still promotes the melting steel theory by promoting the alleged confession video of the alleged Bin Laden, which Matthew Rothschild finds convincing as well. In this confession video, the credentialed expert Bin Laden said -- “Due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building..."[9] Apparently Bin Laden’s plan was a complete failure after all, because even the experts now agree that jet fuel-accelerated office fires cannot melt steel (or Iron for that matter).

Another structural engineer who made early claims of melting steel, in the infamous 2002 Nova video “Why the Towers Fell”, was Matthys Levy. Mr. Levy was a principal at the BMAG consulting firm Weidlinger Associates that, later, with the help of many other PhD engineers, produced a report on the WTC disaster as part of an insurance claim by Larry Silverstein.[10] This Silverstein- Weidlinger investigation was based on extensive computer modeling and involved many of the same contractors that contributed to the government studies. Their final report told us that floor failure had nothing to do with the WTC disasters, but “that the failure of columns alone, independent of the floors, explains the collapses.”[11] At the time, Levy told us “There is no doubt left about the sequence of failure.”[12]

Unfortunately, the credentialed experts were wrong again. Until NIST’s final report came out in 2005, the “Pancake Theory” had replaced the column failure theory as the most widely accepted explanation for collapse. FEMA, along with a professor of Engineering from Northwestern, Zdenek Bazant, championed this theory of pancaking floors as the major explanation for the collapse of both towers, directly contradicting the Silverstein-Weidlinger report. This was strange, considering many of the same experts were involved in both the FEMA and Weidlinger investigations, including Gene Corley.

Amazingly enough, just last summer NIST finally admitted that the explanation could not involve pancaking floors either, by saying “NIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse”.[13] NIST’s findings, first reported in their final draft report of October 2004 and built over a period of several years, originally consisted of two considerably different stories for the two towers. But NIST modified this nine months later in their final, final draft report, giving just one story for both towers about “widely-dislodged” fireproofing and sagging floors pulling the external columns inward, with no mention of pancaking. Their final, final collapse initiation sequence, the essence of their report, is now known to be false in every aspect.[14]

Through the years, NIST and the other official investigators ignored the demolition hypothesis completely, as can be seen from their reports and archived presentations. That’s not surprising though, as the scientists working for FEMA and NIST, and therefore for the Bush Administration, would not likely lead their investigation toward a result that would limit or stop the 9/11 Wars. For example John Gross of NIST and Therese McAllister of Greenhorne & O’Mara, who not only co-authored the most important sections of NIST’s report, but were also primary authors of FEMA’s report, continue to act deaf, dumb and blind when it comes to evidence for the demolition hypothesis.[15] And we can imagine that all those “independent” contractors who contributed to the ever- changing story, who were also consulting firms for the DOD’s interesting Blast Mitigation Action Group, would be hard-pressed to offer an explanation that would require a less militarily focused solution.

The only supposedly independent corroboration that the Bush scientists at NIST could produce for their appalling pack of lies was from that old respected scientific institution, Popular Mechanics. This Hearst magazine is not, as most people know, a scientific publication in any way, shape or form. When they talk about Mechanics, they do not mean Quantum Mechanics or Statistical Mechanics, or even Classical Mechanics. Popular Mechanics (PM) is simply a gloss-covered advertisement for numerous consumer items ranging from ATVs to lawn mowers. You know – mechanics.

This hasn’t prevented many who cling to the official story from using PM as their scientific champion. For example, in his poorly researched hit piece against “conspiracy theorists”, British essayist George Monbiot foists Popular Mechanics upon us, saying they “polled 300 experts” to support their findings. [16] But science is not about popularity, and PM’s “poll” of “structural engineering/building collapse experts” actually consisted of only about 33 people, some of them listed as photographers, media-relations staff and spokespersons. Of those that were engineering-related, most were in some way related to OKC, FEMA, NIST or DOD, and many were responsible for the Weidlinger report, the Pancake Theory, or the NIST report.[17] It turns out that, when it comes to scientific explanations for terrorist acts, it’s a small world after all.

It’s in PM’s book, “Debunking 9/11 Myths”, that we find this survey. Here they include other figures like Forman Williams, although they fail to tell you that Dr. Williams was also a member of NIST’s top advisory committee, and therefore was defending his own work. Williams is presented by PM as a disinterested academic expert, but one must wonder how disinterested Williams was when the University of California San Diego received $393 million in federal grants in 2005, the same year the NIST WTC report came out, with his own Engineering department receiving $44 million of that sum.[18] Another of PM’s disinterested experts was Engineering professor Richard Fruehan of Carnegie Mellon University, an institute that received $100 million in federal grants that same year, with Engineering and research grants accounting for approximately half of the total.

In the case of Popular Mechanics, we see people being quite openly deceptive in their strong support of the Bush Administration’s terror story. In their book they promote false claims that the government no longer supports, including the Pancake Theory. They also promote other, more ridiculous ideas including the claim that massive damage was done to the basement levels of a WTC tower by a bolus of jet fuel that meandered its way through several elevator shafts in the jogged elevator system, moving carefully around the elevators themselves and waiting all the while to explode in the sub-basements over 90 stories below. Additionally, PM repeats the false and ludicrous claim that the buildings were designed for airliner impacts, but not for jet fuel fires. In fact, John Skilling, the actual chief engineer of the WTC, made it clear in 1993 that jet fuel fires were considered in the structural design.[19]

In the foreword to PM’s book, Republican Senator John McCain describes how he feels the truth behind September 11th is more mundane than “conspiracy mongers” would have us believe. Strangely, he refers us to the “banality of Nazi evil” to show that 9/11 was probably not an elaborate conspiracy. That is, according to McCain, 9/11 was probably NOT part of a simple plan by corporate-funded politicians to maintain and expand their power, but was instead the work of a small group of powerless fanatics whose plans to bring about worldwide totalitarian rule were held back only by our own cherished freedoms. That’s a tough bit to swallow, to be sure, but the idea that a Hearst publication would resort to the “banality of Nazi evil” is absolutely astounding. That’s because in writing this foreword, Senator McCain joined an infamous group of Hearst publication authors, including Adolf Hitler and Hermann Goering, who wrote for Hearst, the latter until 1938.[20]

Those of us fighting for the truth about 9/11 owe it to the victims of the expanding 9/11 Wars, and to ourselves, to reveal these ongoing lies from corporate criminals and their credentialed “experts”. It is becoming increasingly obvious that those giving us one false story after another, while simultaneously ignoring much of the evidence of 9/11, might have more than just a cozy relationship with this government, and more than a benign past. It seems quite possible that some among those providing these explanations are knowingly complicit in the greater crime of a 9/11 cover-up.

It is also true that, like Matthew Rothschild, many of us simply want quick and easy answers, in order to relieve ourselves of any need to think about the facts of 9/11 and the changes in worldview that might be demanded of such an examination. The problem is, the easy answers have all been wrong, while at the same time the experts have ignored one fairly simple hypothesis that is now becoming obvious to many. It should be clear that this is because the credentialed experts we’ve been dealing with are all quite well invested in maintaining the official version of events.

1. Enough of the 9/11 Conspiracies, Already, The Progressive, Matthew Rothschild, September 11, 2006 http://www.progressive.org/mag_wx 091106

2. For a short description of DOD’s BMSP, see “Department of Defense Should Broaden Communication Efforts to Protect Federal and Civilian Buildings From Bomb Attacks”, The National Academy of Sciences, November 2001, http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx? RecordID=10230

3. Missing Trillions: Rumsfeld Buries Admission of Missing 2+ Trillion Dollars in 9/10/01 Press Conference, http://911Research.com, http://911research.wtc7 .net/sept11/trillions.html

4. US Army Corps of Engineers, Blast Mitigation Action Group (BMAG), Consulting Firms, https://bmag.usace.army.mil/consulting_firms.php

5. Blast Loading and Response of Murrah Building, Mlakar, Corley, Sozen, Thornton, 1997, http://www .terrorisminfo.mipt.org/pdf/forensicengineering2.pdf

6. General Partin’s letter to Senator Lott can be found in its entirety in the Final Report on the Bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, April, 19,1995, The Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee, Appendix, page 378-380. This letter is also reproduced here - http: //www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/ok8.htm

7. See Context of 'March 6, 2002: House Committee on Science Holds Hearing on WTC Collapses Investigation, Cooperative Research, http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp? item=a030602collapsehearing

8.“When the Twin Towers Fell”, Scientific American, October 9, 2001 http://www.public- action.com/911/jmcm/sciam/

9. The US State Department still appears to be promoting this first false theory by promoting Osama (Fatty) Bin Laden’s baseless statements. US State Department website: The Top September 11 Conspiracy Theories, http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=pubs- english&y=2006&m=August&x=20060828133846esnamfuaK0.2676355

10. Profile: Weidlinger Associates, Cooperative Research http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp? entity=weidlinger_associates_1

11. “Report Ties WTC Collapses to Column Failures”, Engineering News-Record, 10/25/02, McGraw Hill Construction, http:/ /www.construction.com/NewsCenter/Headlines/ENR/20021025b.asp

12. Study Absolves Twin Tower Trusses, Fireproofing, Engineering News-Record, 11/04/02 http://enr .construction.com/news/buildings/archives/021104.asp

13. Answers to Frequently Asked Questions, August 2006, National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster, http://wtc.nist.gov/p ubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

14. See my essay, What is 9/11 Truth? – The First Steps, at the Journal of 911 Studies, http://www.journalof911studies.com . Also see the critique of my presentation Review of 'A New Standard For Deception: The NIST WTC Report' A Presentation by Kevin Ryan, Jim Hoffman, http://911Research.com, 10/15/06 http://91 1research.wtc7.net/reviews/kevin_ryan/newstandard.html

15. See video of John Gross’ presentation at the University of Texas Austin, with testimonies and evidence of molten metal at the WTC. Project for New American Citizens, http://911blogger.com/node/6104

16. “A 9/11 Conspiracy Virus is Sweeping the World, But it Has No Basis in Fact”, George Monbiot, The Guardian, February 6, 2007, http: //film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,,2007519,00.html

17. Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can’t Stand up to the Facts, Dunbar & Reagan, Hearst Press, 2006. Note: See also Eduardo (melting steel) Kausel’s glowing review in the front cover.

18. See http://Fedspending.org, Grants, http://www.fedspending.org/

19. City in the Sky: The Rise and Fall of the World Trade Center, James Glanz and Eric Lipton, (New York: Times Books, 2003), 138

20. Remembering “The Chief”, PBS’s Online NewsHour, 9/07/00, http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/media/july-dec00/nasaw_9-7.html

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-14   19:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: SKYDRIFTER (#35)

911 Bldg 7

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-03-14   19:46:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: SKYDRIFTER, ALL (#35)

Kevin Ryan

Water Treatment Expert. And LIAR.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-14   20:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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