Title: The Movie The 300 - Does Anyone Think XERXES Actually Dressed Like This?? Source:
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I heard it's a well done computer enhanced blood and guts...well worth seeing as a check your mind at the door escape. Hope to make it. I think only a big screen will do it justice so I'm looking to go.
Forget this BS, watch BBC/HBO production of "Rome".
Victory means exit strategy, and its important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush (About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)
#13. To: who knows what evil, tom007, YertleTurtle, Arator, leveller (#5)
This was based on a comic book, NOT world history.
As a comic book collector I can add some light - this is based on Frank Miller's comic book mini-series of the same name - though they call them graphic novels these days.
The movie is a recreation panel by panel of the comic book - only possible now with computer technology. Because the movie is based on a comic book it uses comic book sensabilities - in comic books the villians have to look like villians and the heroes have to look like heroes. This is because comic books use a visual medium to tell the story so you have to know if the character is a good guy or bad guy just by looking at him. Hence why Darth Vader or Doctor Doom looks evil and Luke Skywalker or Superman looks like a good guy.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Yeah, I saw it Sunday. Obviously a thin propaganda attempt relating to today. I think the word "freedom" was mentioned only two times less than in the "Braveheart" and "The Patriot"- which is funny because Sparta was perhaps the first (and still the harshest as far as I am concerned) totalitarian state in the history of mankind. I guess what Leonides (the Spartan King) ment by "freedom" was the freedom to continue horrific institutionalized pedophilia and subsist on the backs of your helot slaves whom were terrified into submission by constant beatings and subject to random execution by Spartan teenagers "practicing" to get used to killing by stalking and butchering slaves in the fields (this was the Spartan equivelent of youthful hijinks- brutally murdering slaves.)
Of course- it is really hard how anyone could see the West as besieged Greece and Iran as the evil Persians of Xeres today in that movie.
But never minding the politics- it was a good looking film- at least interesting. But it really failed to move me at all. They didn't build up any character except Leonides. It didn't have a lasting impact. I also recently saw Apocolypto and that had more resonance than "300". Overall it wasn't a bad film- but I wouldn't run out and see it. It is, at best, a rental.
guess what Leonides (the Spartan King) ment by "freedom" was the freedom to continue horrific institutionalized pedophilia and subsist on the backs of your helot slaves whom were terrified into submission by constant beatings and subject to random execution by Spartan teenagers "practicing" to get used to killing by stalking and butchering slaves in the fields (this was the Spartan equivelent of youthful hijinks- brutally murdering slaves.)
Well you do know testimonial history for a fact.
Thanks for the review. I "may" splerge and see the IMAX version just cause I am interested in the event. But I confess I am dissapointed that it was not an attempt to recreate a temporial accurate vision of the momenteous events, but a comic book version.
On that account the movie Troy, from me, gets an A, not because they were perfect, but because they at least gave it a good try. I could identify Ajax, for example, tho he was never mentioned by name.
I don't see alot of movies, but some I'll go out of my way to see on the big screen, but if I miss it we have a $0.50 screen on Tuesday that I will wait it out to see.
Am reading Thucydides' "The Peloponnesian War" as we speak. The Landmark edition, recommended, the only one to chose to read these days.
The adjective "Laconic" comes from the Spartans, as their speach was direct, and their region was Lacodominean.
For example as Xerxes said "submit your arms" Leonidas replied "Come and take them".
A good example of a Loconic reply.
In many way they did seem a sick society, but the Athenian society comes off fairly bad as well, to me, as a slave running Empire, which I was a bit surprised of.
The contrast of the two societies, one inward looking and the other inventive is interesting.
The winner if the Peloponnesian War was ........................The Persians.
Victory means exit strategy, and its important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush (About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)
i heard Rome was good. i'll have to purchase season one.
Yes, do start from the beginning. You won't regret it.
Victory means exit strategy, and its important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush (About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)
The Spartans basically got so "gay" they couldn't even maintain their numbers. Spartans boys were paired with a "mentor" (a Spartan man in his early 20's) and the boy "serviced" the "mentor" in all ways. It got so ridiculous that on the wedding nights of Spartans- it became traditional for the brides to shave their heads (as was the custom for boys being trained in the Agogi system) and to dress as a boy- so the groom could become aroused enough to consumate the marriage. Females also had Woman/girl pairings as well. Marriages occured late in Sparta for the ancient world- in the late 20's for the men- and early 20's for the women. Literally they couldn't produce enough offspring because their society was consumed by homosexuality and pedophelia. By the time of their fall to Thebes- Sparta could barely field 800 full blooded Spartan warriors- a fall from their height of over 10,000 such warriors at their apex.
Here is a more realistic representation of the Spartians. The heavy armored hoplites had armored shields close to 1/2" thick of bronze. IF they kept formation in the lines, in intense battle a death rate of 5% was great, usually much less. Their armor weighed eighty pounds for, and unlike the drawing here, their heavy shield could be set on the ground. Servants carried the armor and baggage till the moment of battle. Bronze was the alloy of the US penny untill the zinc based coin was used, bronze is quite hard.
when I was in 2nd grade, the nun who taught my class told us a story about a little spartan boy who found a wolf cub and hid it in his shirt. the spartan boys were lined up or something and not permitted to make a sound, and the wolf chewed up the boy's chest until he died, but he never cried out. to this day, I'm not sure what the lesson to be learned there was, exactly. it's become a family joke (the little spartan boy wouldn't complain!) but it's weird that that's one of the few stories I remember from elementary school in detail.
that, and of course the day I threw up in class all over my geography book cause the nun wouldn't give me a pass to go to the bathroom. oh, those nuns............
The comic was based on a MOVIE from way back called "The 300 of Sparta".
It's funny how derivative material becomes new all over again.
I looked at it as a recruiting tool for the Marines, and basically it's exactly what it is. Anyone remember Starship Troopers? How about Space Above And Beyond? This had the same kind of play to it.
Regardless of the visuals, it's just a piece of fiction based on what is supposedly a true event.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
when I was in 2nd grade, the nun who taught my class told us a story about a little spartan boy who found a wolf cub and hid it in his shirt. the spartan boys were lined up or something and not permitted to make a sound, and the wolf chewed up the boy's chest until he died, but he never cried out. to this day, I'm not sure what the lesson to be learned there was, exactly. it's become a family joke (the little spartan boy wouldn't complain!) but it's weird that that's one of the few stories I remember from elementary school in detail.
The subtext of the story is:
The Catholic Church with all their crazy unbiblical doctrines is like the wolf the boy took to his chest. Unless one engages with it fully, dissents and finally breaks free from its pack-cult mentality, it will devour your heart and kill your spirit with its savage untruth.
The nun was inadvertently issuing a subtle warning, I think. Did you heed it? ;^)
Wolves, by the way, have always been emblematic of Rome (since Romulus and Remus were suckled by a she-wolve). So, the nun's metaphor, though she may not have intended it quite the way I've interpreted it, was entirely appropriate. ;^)
Recent studies have claimed a link between homosexuality and the late or insufficient release of testosterone durig pregnancy. Another more recent study claims a link between homosexuality and being younger brother to an older brother. Ethologists have documented homosexual display behavior in betafish whose aquarium territory has been usurped by other male fish! Environment, ontogeny, and even genes may all play roles now unknown. Scientists have a lot more work to do, and hopefully they will do less of it among prison populations, a la Kinsey, . . . . not that there's anything wrong with that . . . .
Meantime, Athens had no trouble maintaining the numbers of its citizenry, even though homosexuality was also prevalent there, especially in the upper classes. Athenians generally took the view that marriage and women were for procreation, whereas boys were for enjoyment and emotional fulfillment.