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Title: The Movie The 300 - Does Anyone Think XERXES Actually Dressed Like This??
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Published: Mar 12, 2007
Author: weired
Post Date: 2007-03-12 20:21:18 by tom007
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Has anyone seen the movie? Comments? I thought it was going to try to historically accurate v. Troy, but ....
Yeah, I saw it Sunday. Obviously a thin propaganda attempt relating to today. I think the word "freedom" was mentioned only two times less than in the "Braveheart" and "The Patriot"- which is funny because Sparta was perhaps the first (and still the harshest as far as I am concerned) totalitarian state in the history of mankind. I guess what Leonides (the Spartan King) ment by "freedom" was the freedom to continue horrific institutionalized pedophilia and subsist on the backs of your helot slaves whom were terrified into submission by constant beatings and subject to random execution by Spartan teenagers "practicing" to get used to killing by stalking and butchering slaves in the fields (this was the Spartan equivelent of youthful hijinks- brutally murdering slaves.) Of course- it is really hard how anyone could see the West as besieged Greece and Iran as the evil Persians of Xeres today in that movie. But never minding the politics- it was a good looking film- at least interesting. But it really failed to move me at all. They didn't build up any character except Leonides. It didn't have a lasting impact. I also recently saw Apocolypto and that had more resonance than "300". Overall it wasn't a bad film- but I wouldn't run out and see it. It is, at best, a rental.
Well you do know testimonial history for a fact. Thanks for the review. I "may" splerge and see the IMAX version just cause I am interested in the event. But I confess I am dissapointed that it was not an attempt to recreate a temporial accurate vision of the momenteous events, but a comic book version. On that account the movie Troy, from me, gets an A, not because they were perfect, but because they at least gave it a good try. I could identify Ajax, for example, tho he was never mentioned by name. I don't see alot of movies, but some I'll go out of my way to see on the big screen, but if I miss it we have a $0.50 screen on Tuesday that I will wait it out to see. Am reading Thucydides' "The Peloponnesian War" as we speak. The Landmark edition, recommended, the only one to chose to read these days. The adjective "Laconic" comes from the Spartans, as their speach was direct, and their region was Lacodominean. For example as Xerxes said "submit your arms" Leonidas replied "Come and take them". A good example of a Loconic reply. In many way they did seem a sick society, but the Athenian society comes off fairly bad as well, to me, as a slave running Empire, which I was a bit surprised of. The contrast of the two societies, one inward looking and the other inventive is interesting. The winner if the Peloponnesian War was ........................The Persians.
#25. To: tom007 (#19)
The Spartans basically got so "gay" they couldn't even maintain their numbers. Spartans boys were paired with a "mentor" (a Spartan man in his early 20's) and the boy "serviced" the "mentor" in all ways. It got so ridiculous that on the wedding nights of Spartans- it became traditional for the brides to shave their heads (as was the custom for boys being trained in the Agogi system) and to dress as a boy- so the groom could become aroused enough to consumate the marriage. Females also had Woman/girl pairings as well. Marriages occured late in Sparta for the ancient world- in the late 20's for the men- and early 20's for the women. Literally they couldn't produce enough offspring because their society was consumed by homosexuality and pedophelia. By the time of their fall to Thebes- Sparta could barely field 800 full blooded Spartan warriors- a fall from their height of over 10,000 such warriors at their apex.
I'm hoping things like this movie will get young people to read Herodotus.
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guess what Leonides (the Spartan King) ment by "freedom" was the freedom to continue horrific institutionalized pedophilia and subsist on the backs of your helot slaves whom were terrified into submission by constant beatings and subject to random execution by Spartan teenagers "practicing" to get used to killing by stalking and butchering slaves in the fields (this was the Spartan equivelent of youthful hijinks- brutally murdering slaves.)
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