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Title: The Movie The 300 - Does Anyone Think XERXES Actually Dressed Like This??
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Published: Mar 12, 2007
Author: weired
Post Date: 2007-03-12 20:21:18 by tom007
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#20. To: kiki (#18)
I understand. I believe they would refer to themselves as MEN.(The real Spartans, not the Gold Gym actors) As a movie point, the actors all said they were put in boot camp and worked into great shape, and every act was painful.
Warning, it is not a family series.
Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush i heard Rome was good. i'll have to purchase season one.
Yes, do start from the beginning. You won't regret it.
Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush oh my...the guy in the forefront..them's some pecs and delts.
The Spartans basically got so "gay" they couldn't even maintain their numbers. Spartans boys were paired with a "mentor" (a Spartan man in his early 20's) and the boy "serviced" the "mentor" in all ways. It got so ridiculous that on the wedding nights of Spartans- it became traditional for the brides to shave their heads (as was the custom for boys being trained in the Agogi system) and to dress as a boy- so the groom could become aroused enough to consumate the marriage. Females also had Woman/girl pairings as well. Marriages occured late in Sparta for the ancient world- in the late 20's for the men- and early 20's for the women. Literally they couldn't produce enough offspring because their society was consumed by homosexuality and pedophelia. By the time of their fall to Thebes- Sparta could barely field 800 full blooded Spartan warriors- a fall from their height of over 10,000 such warriors at their apex.
Yes, do start from the beginning. You won't regret it. Thank you already for the heads up.
Yeah that's me, they hired me as an extra and found out I fit into the storyline very well so they wrote me in. Funny you should mention it.
Here is a more realistic representation of the Spartians. The heavy armored hoplites had armored shields close to 1/2" thick of bronze. IF they kept formation in the lines, in intense battle a death rate of 5% was great, usually much less. Their armor weighed eighty pounds for, and unlike the drawing here, their heavy shield could be set on the ground. Servants carried the armor and baggage till the moment of battle. Bronze was the alloy of the US penny untill the zinc based coin was used, bronze is quite hard. when I was in 2nd grade, the nun who taught my class told us a story about a little spartan boy who found a wolf cub and hid it in his shirt. the spartan boys were lined up or something and not permitted to make a sound, and the wolf chewed up the boy's chest until he died, but he never cried out. to this day, I'm not sure what the lesson to be learned there was, exactly. it's become a family joke (the little spartan boy wouldn't complain!) but it's weird that that's one of the few stories I remember from elementary school in detail. that, and of course the day I threw up in class all over my geography book cause the nun wouldn't give me a pass to go to the bathroom. oh, those nuns............
He is a credit to his gender.
Yeah that's me, they hired me as an extra and found out I fit into the storyline very well so they wrote me in. Quit lying; that's me and you know it. Anyway, Christine is married, so no peeking at hairless, oiled up, muscular guys.
"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.
The comic was based on a MOVIE from way back called "The 300 of Sparta". It's funny how derivative material becomes new all over again. I looked at it as a recruiting tool for the Marines, and basically it's exactly what it is. Anyone remember Starship Troopers? How about Space Above And Beyond? This had the same kind of play to it. Regardless of the visuals, it's just a piece of fiction based on what is supposedly a true event.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
It's a personal choice. As is humping
animals, polygamy, incest and formally marrying a Macy's store mannequin and
adopting children. It's all good :)
The subtext of the story is: The Catholic Church with all their crazy unbiblical doctrines is like the wolf the boy took to his chest. Unless one engages with it fully, dissents and finally breaks free from its pack-cult mentality, it will devour your heart and kill your spirit with its savage untruth. The nun was inadvertently issuing a subtle warning, I think. Did you heed it? ;^)
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Wolves, by the way, have always been emblematic of Rome (since Romulus and Remus were suckled by a she-wolve). So, the nun's metaphor, though she may not have intended it quite the way I've interpreted it, was entirely appropriate. ;^)
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We should keep an open mind on this issue. Recent studies have claimed a link between homosexuality and the late or insufficient release of testosterone durig pregnancy. Another more recent study claims a link between homosexuality and being younger brother to an older brother. Ethologists have documented homosexual display behavior in betafish whose aquarium territory has been usurped by other male fish! Environment, ontogeny, and even genes may all play roles now unknown. Scientists have a lot more work to do, and hopefully they will do less of it among prison populations, a la Kinsey, . . . . not that there's anything wrong with that . . . .
Xerxes: Israel is willing to fight them to the last American soldier.
Meantime, Athens had no trouble maintaining the numbers of its citizenry, even though homosexuality was also prevalent there, especially in the upper classes. Athenians generally took the view that marriage and women were for procreation, whereas boys were for enjoyment and emotional fulfillment.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
He probably thinks it's the brand name of his office printer....
I'm hoping things like this movie will get young people to read Herodotus.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
BUFF MEN ALERT (at least in the second pic...)
Or why Socrates chose the hemlock instead.
The online interactive games with historical themes are generating interest in ancient civilizations to some extent; if my youngest son and his online friends are any indication. "Age of Empires" is a series of that genre.
Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush Tehran condemns 'anti-Iranian' movie 300. Daily Kos: Is the film '300' Anti-Iranian/Pro-War Propaganda?. I haven't seen the movie, but I strongly suspect it is propagandistic preparation for a planned war against Iran.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
Reminds me of modern Germany. "Mom, if you were in a scheiss-essen movie, you'd tell me, wouldn't you?" "Of course, poopie-kins."
The national nightmare has ended... Now begins two years of watching the Congress play "Kick the Gimp".
Starship Troopers kicked ass, though, while reviews of 300 have been tepid, at best.
The national nightmare has ended... Now begins two years of watching the Congress play "Kick the Gimp".
The stuff I missed in history class. I remember they took boys at age 7 from their mothers, just missed what for.
Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is. ~George W. Bush This country was founded on freedom and we are a melting pot of many diverse people. I think we need to take a step back and accept a culture that only the most intolerant among us would object to.
Accepting it would be fine, but ignoring it would be fine also. Freedom of association also includes the freedom even to be homophobic. However, the endeavor to incorporate into the law distinctions and discriminations based on sexual preference is undesirable for several reasons. It violates the no-fairsey rule (no, not the no-fairy rule) that fundamental fairness is due everyone in our society. It also serves as a distraction from the real issues, such as, for example, how many people we are killing this month in illegal war crime invasions.
I did! I guess I need to thank sister mary.....whatever. I can't remember her name but I will never forget that story. thanks for interpreting it! lol - I always just took it at face value like a good catholic girl :)
I'm so glad. Otherwise, I might have deeply offended you with my postings. ;^)
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Why? What would constitute having a closed mind on this issue, and why would that be a bad thing? Recent studies have claimed a link between homosexuality and the late or insufficient release of testosterone durig pregnancy. Another more recent study claims a link between homosexuality and being younger brother to an older brother. So?
Though you’re no bigger than my thumb, than my thumb, than my thumb Doogie Hauser as secret policeman cracked me up.
Though you’re no bigger than my thumb, than my thumb, than my thumb It may also be desirable. It is a distinction like male/female, which is a reasonable proxy for testosterone levels, level of aggression, upper body strength, duration of fertility, math ability, and verbal ability. Restricting service in combat, for example, to males, saves knowledge costs and spares reproductive capacity, and this is precisely the practice for societies that face real threats. It violates the no-fairsey rule (no, not the no-fairy rule) that fundamental fairness is due everyone in our society. First we'd have to agree on what fundamental fairness is. A distinction in law based on sexual preference is no more unfair than any other information-encapsulating distinction.
Though you’re no bigger than my thumb, than my thumb, than my thumb How far are you willing to go with this argument? Apparently you think that since soldiers' morale might be affected by the presence of gays, they should be banned from service. If white soldiers' morale might be affected by the presence of Blacks or AmerIndians, should they be banned from service?
I saw a good documentary recently on the History Channel called "Last Stand of the 300" with good narrative and recreations and dramatizations. It focused almost as much on the Athenian Themesticles (in charge of overall strategy and the greek navy) as it did on the Spartan Leonidas. And it did show how overall the Spartan society was no bastian of freedom. The documentary came out to coincide with the movie "300", fair enough. But I think it is legitimate to question the timing of the movie given the U.S. government impending attack on Iran, as much a propaganda piece as entertainment. In Hollywood, there are few coincidences or accidents when it comes to influencing public sentiment. Those who protest the movie in Iran have a point, if only because of the timing.
You are either with the President, or you are for the Bill Of Rights.
How far are you willing to go with this argument? As far as those that penned "civil rights" laws are. Apparently you think that since soldiers' morale might be affected by the presence of gays, they should be banned from service. What is the military for? If admitting gays decreases combat effectiveness or security of intelligence, it is certainly something to be considered. There is no free lunch though. Banning gays does not, of course, remove them all, and those that remain will be a greater security risk because a ban means they can be more easily blackmailed. This is the main trade off. If white soldiers' morale might be affected by the presence of Blacks or AmerIndians, should they be banned from service? Guy Odom suggests in America's Man on Horseback that the prince's soldiers should be mostly black, as their skin alone will more greatly intimidate citizens. Certainly whites have shown few qualms in the past about using non-whites against other whites. Though you haven't articulated it, I suspect you may take as a principle that those things that people do not consciously choose about themselves are not an acceptable basis for drawing distinctions. But most things about people aren't consciously chosen by anyone, let alone themselves, and even then often not rationally. The distinctions and their principle vectors remain; the nexus of effective actions remains the same. A refusal to admit or use them, combined with a set of desired ends that is nevertheless consistent with them, simply results in complicated Natal formulas to self-deceptively avoid scruple infringement. A desire for others to refuse to admit or use them, may be self-serving in another way, and possibly detrimental to those others.
Though you’re no bigger than my thumb, than my thumb, than my thumb A desire for others to refuse to admit or use them, may be self-serving in another way, and possibly detrimental to those others. 19 years of education have left me unable to follow your argument.
So much for education. 22 years here, but in all honesty I dawdled during the last few.
Though you’re no bigger than my thumb, than my thumb, than my thumb Although I must proceed cautiously, facing as I do a three year educational deficit, it is possible that I understand what you have written. If I do, then you have argued that it is impractical to rule out discrimination based upon involuntarily acquired attributes, since most attributes are so acquired. You have also argued that attempts to legally rule out such discrimination are just as self-serving and detrimental to others as legally enforced discrimination would be. The first proposition seems belied by experience. The second requires demonstration. Your second argument reminds me of the effort of the Chicago economists who attempted to demonstrate that since legal rights and liabilites could always be the subject of negotiation, the most efficient economic outcomes could always be produced no matter what the initial legal structure might be.
something about the guys...........
#21. To: tom007 (#16)
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)
#22. To: robin (#12)
#23. To: christine, tom007 (#22)
i heard Rome was good. i'll have to purchase season one.
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)
#24. To: tom007, kiki (#7)
#25. To: tom007 (#19)
#26. To: robin (#23)
i heard Rome was good. i'll have to purchase season one.
#27. To: christine, kiki (#24)
oh my...the guy in the forefront..them's some pecs and delts.
#28. To: All (#27)
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#29. To: Burkeman1 (#25)
#30. To: christine (#24)
oh my...the guy in the forefront..them's some pecs and delts.
#31. To: tom007, christine (#27)
oh my...the guy in the forefront..them's some pecs and delts.
#32. To: who knows what evil (#5)
#33. To: leveller, Quiffs, dolts and assorted big L libertarians (#11)
You forgot to add: ". . . not that there's anything wrong with
that . . ."
#34. To: kiki (#29)
(Edited)
when I was in 2nd grade, the nun who taught my class told us a story about a little spartan boy who found a wolf cub and hid it in his shirt. the spartan boys were lined up or something and not permitted to make a sound, and the wolf chewed up the boy's chest until he died, but he never cried out. to this day, I'm not sure what the lesson to be learned there was, exactly. it's become a family joke (the little spartan boy wouldn't complain!) but it's weird that that's one of the few stories I remember from elementary school in detail.
#35. To: kiki (#29)
(Edited)
#36. To: Jethro Tull (#33)
It's a personal choice.
#37. To: Burkeman1 (#17)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#38. To: Burkeman1 (#25)
#39. To: Arator (#3)
(if he even knew who Xerxes was, that is).
#40. To: tom007 (#19)
#41. To: zipporah, robin, christine (#8)
#42. To: aristeides (#40)
I'm hoping things like this movie will get young people to read Herodotus.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#43. To: aristeides (#40)
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)
#44. To: tom007 (#0)
#45. To: Burkeman1 (#25)
Literally they couldn't produce enough offspring because their society was consumed by homosexuality and pedophelia. By the time of their fall to Thebes- Sparta could barely field 800 full blooded Spartan warriors- a fall from their height of over 10,000 such warriors at their apex.
#46. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#32)
Anyone remember Starship Troopers?
#47. To: Burkeman1 (#25)
(About the quote: Speaking on the war in Kosovo.)
#48. To: leveller (#36)
Gay folk
#49. To: Jethro Tull (#48)
This country was founded on freedom and we are a melting pot
#50. To: Arator (#34)
The nun was inadvertently issuing a subtle warning, I think. Did you heed it? ;^)
#51. To: kiki (#50)
I did!
#52. To: leveller, Jethro Tull (#36)
We should keep an open mind on this issue.
Sweet Thumbelina, don’t be glum! No, no, no, Ah, ah, ah. Come, come, come.
Thumbelina, Thumbelina, tiny little thing; Thumbelina dance, Thumbelina sing.
Oh, Thumbelina, what’s the difference if you’re very small? When your heart is full of love, you’re nine feet tall.
#53. To: Indrid Cold (#46)
Starship Troopers kicked ass
Sweet Thumbelina, don’t be glum! No, no, no, Ah, ah, ah. Come, come, come.
Thumbelina, Thumbelina, tiny little thing; Thumbelina dance, Thumbelina sing.
Oh, Thumbelina, what’s the difference if you’re very small? When your heart is full of love, you’re nine feet tall.
#54. To: leveller (#49)
However, the endeavor to incorporate into the law distinctions and discriminations based on sexual preference is undesirable for several reasons.
Sweet Thumbelina, don’t be glum! No, no, no, Ah, ah, ah. Come, come, come.
Thumbelina, Thumbelina, tiny little thing; Thumbelina dance, Thumbelina sing.
Oh, Thumbelina, what’s the difference if you’re very small? When your heart is full of love, you’re nine feet tall.
#55. To: Tauzero (#54)
A distinction in law based on sexual preference is no more unfair than any other information-encapsulating distinction.
#56. To: tom007 (#0)
#57. To: leveller (#55)
Sweet Thumbelina, don’t be glum! No, no, no, Ah, ah, ah. Come, come, come.
Thumbelina, Thumbelina, tiny little thing; Thumbelina dance, Thumbelina sing.
Oh, Thumbelina, what’s the difference if you’re very small? When your heart is full of love, you’re nine feet tall.
#58. To: Tauzero (#57)
Though you haven't articulated it, I suspect you may take as a principle that those things that people do not consciously choose about themselves are not an acceptable basis for drawing distinctions. But most things about people aren't consciously chosen by anyone, let alone themselves, and even then often not rationally. The distinctions and their principle vectors remain; the nexus of effective actions remains the same. A refusal to admit or use them, combined with a set of desired ends that is nevertheless consistent with them, simply results in complicated Natal formulas to self-deceptively avoid scruple infringement.
#59. To: leveller (#58)
Sweet Thumbelina, don’t be glum! No, no, no, Ah, ah, ah. Come, come, come.
Thumbelina, Thumbelina, tiny little thing; Thumbelina dance, Thumbelina sing.
Oh, Thumbelina, what’s the difference if you’re very small? When your heart is full of love, you’re nine feet tall.
#60. To: All (#58)
Though you haven't articulated it, I suspect you may take as a principle that those things that people do not consciously choose about themselves are not an acceptable basis for drawing distinctions. But most things about people aren't consciously chosen by anyone, let alone themselves, and even then often not rationally. The distinctions and their principle vectors remain; the nexus of effective actions remains the same. A refusal to admit or use them, combined with a set of desired ends that is nevertheless consistent with them, simply results in complicated Natal formulas to self-deceptively avoid scruple infringement. A desire for others to refuse to admit or use them, may be self-serving in another way, and possibly detrimental to those others.
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