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Title: Idiocy in D.C., Progress in Baghdad
Source: www.weeklystandard.com
URL Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conte ... icles/000/000/013/416urcoa.asp
Published: Mar 17, 2007
Author: William Kristol
Post Date: 2007-03-17 20:20:21 by BeAChooser
Keywords: None
Views: 3522
Comments: 224

Idiocy in D.C., Progress in Baghdad

The surge is working--that's what matters.

by William Kristol

03/26/2007, Volume 012, Issue 27

In order to preserve the cosmic harmony, it seems the gods insist that good news in one place be offset by misfortune elsewhere. It may well be that Gen. David Petraeus is going to lead us to victory in Iraq. He is certainly off to a good start. If the karmic price of success in Iraq is utter embarrassment for senior Bush officials in Washington, D.C.--well, in our judgment, the trade-off is worth it. The world will surely note our success or failure in Iraq. It will not long remember the gang that couldn't shoot straight at the Justice Department--or, for that matter, the antics of congressional Democrats--unless either so weakens the administration as to undercut our mission in Iraq.

Obviously, it's too early to say anything more definitive than that there are real signs of progress in Baghdad. The cocksure defeatism of war critics of two months ago, when the surge was announced, does seem to have been misplaced. The latest Iraq Update (pdf) by Kimberly Kagan summarizes the early effects of the new strategy backed up by, as yet, just one additional U.S. brigade deployed in theater (with more to be added in the coming weeks):

This "rolling surge" focuses forces on a handful of neighborhoods in Baghdad, and attempts to expand security out from those neighborhoods. . . . A big advantage of a "rolling surge" is that the population and the enemy sense the continuous pressure of ever-increasing forces. Iraqis have not seen such a prolonged and continuous planned increase of U.S. forces before. . . . The continued, increasing presence of U.S. forces appears to be having an important psychological, as well as practical, effect on the enemy and the people of Iraq. . . . [Meanwhile] in Ramadi, in the belt south of Baghdad stretching from Yusifiyah to Salman Pak, and northeast in Diyala Province, . . . U.S. and Iraqi forces have deprived al Qaeda of the initiative.

This sense of momentum is confirmed by many other reports in the media, and from Americans and Iraqis on the ground.

But back in Washington, congressional Democrats are still mired in the fall of 2006 and seem determined to be as irresponsible as ever. They're being beaten back--in part thanks to the fighting spirit of stalwart congressional Republicans. Last week, the Senate defeated a resolution that would have restricted the use of U.S. troops in Iraq and set March 31, 2008, as a target date for removing U.S. forces from combat.

On the same day, on a mostly party-line vote, the House Appropriations Committee reported out the Democratic version of a supplemental appropriations bill for the war. It was an odd piece of legislation--an appropriation to fight a war replete with provisions intended to ensure we lose it.

Here's what the Democratic legislation does, according to the Washington Post: "Under the House bill, the Iraqi government would have to meet strict benchmarks. . . . If by July 1 the president could not certify any progress, U.S. troops would begin leaving Iraq, to be out before the end of this year. If Bush did certify progress, the Iraqi government would have until Oct. 1 to meet the benchmarks, or troops would begin withdrawing then. In any case, withdrawals would have to begin by March 1, 2008, and conclude by the end of that summer."

Got that? Oh yes, in addition to the arbitrary timelines for the removal of troops, there's pork. As the Post explains, "Included in the legislation is a lot of money to help win support. The price tag exceeds the president's war request by $24 billion." Some of the extra money goes to bail out spinach farmers hurt by E. coli, to pay for peanut storage, and to provide additional office space for the lawmakers themselves. So much for an emergency war appropriations bill.

The legislation may collapse on the floor of the House this week. It certainly deserves to. Republicans can insist on a clean supplemental--no timelines to reassure the enemy that if they just hang on, we'll be gone before long, and no pork. They can win this fight--and if they do, combined with progress in Iraq, the lasting news from March 2007 will not be Bush administration haplessness; it will be that we are on the way to success in Iraq.

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#16. To: BeAChooser, All (#0)

Obviously, it's too early to say anything more definitive than that there are real signs of progress in Baghdad.

Those ever-optimistic neocons!

When/if they bring the troops home, no matter the circumstances, we will be told we won the war, we were victorious.

The many paralells between our neocon's and the old Soviet leader's behaviors and mindset never cease to amaze me.

A truth and a lie make little difference, only agenda matters.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-17   21:42:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Diana, ALL (#16)

A truth and a lie make little difference, only agenda matters.

Says someone who accepts the lies when it comes to bombs in the WTC, no Flight 77, John Hopkins' claiming 655,000 Iraqi dead and DU is the scourge of the millennium.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-17   21:50:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: BeAChooser (#20)

Says someone who accepts the lies when it comes to bombs in the WTC, no Flight 77, John Hopkins' claiming 655,000 Iraqi dead and DU is the scourge of the millennium.

Again, can you find the posts where I wrote of the bombs placed in the WTC?

I'd like to see them since you've mentioned them before, I must've misremembered writing those posts so I'd like to get a reminder so that would be great if you can dig them up, thanks!

Diana  posted on  2007-03-17   21:57:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Diana, ALL (#23)

Again, can you find the posts where I wrote of the bombs placed in the WTC?

Can you show us the posts where you've challenged the bombs in the WTC assertions? You've certainly been on enough threads where this was being discussed to have done so by now. So can you?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-17   22:01:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: BeAChooser (#25)

Again, can you find the posts where I wrote of the bombs placed in the WTC?

Can you show us the posts where you've challenged the bombs in the WTC assertions? You've certainly been on enough threads where this was being discussed to have done so by now. So can you?

In other words, from the above post you answered me with, you looked back for such posts and to your consternation you found that I have written nothing on the topic of bombs in the buildings.

That should teach you not to make assumptions or accusations without really checking first.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-18   1:19:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Diana, ALL (#70)

Again, can you find the posts where I wrote of the bombs placed in the WTC?

"Can you show us the posts where you've challenged the bombs in the WTC assertions? You've certainly been on enough threads where this was being discussed to have done so by now. So can you?"

In other words, from the above post you answered me with, you looked back for such posts and to your consternation you found that I have written nothing on the topic of bombs in the buildings.

Oh. Maybe I just misinterpreted what you wrote here:

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http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=45537&Disp=All[

BeAChooser - Currently, only one demolition expert in the world agrees with Griffin that Building 7 was a controlled demolition.

Diana - Actually there are probably many others, but they dare not speak out as they value their lives and those of their families.

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Then there was our conversation on the following thread

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http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46290&Disp=All&#C231

starting at post #37.

BeAChooser to Jethro Tull - Give us the name of ONE structural engineer at BYU who supports Jone's theory. JUST ONE. Surely you can.

Diana to BeAChooser in response to that statement - You've just proven your blatant dishonesty or ignorance or nacisissism or all combined by attacking the credentials of these scientists.

BeAChooser to Jethro Tull - The structural engineering faculty in the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones.

Diana to BeAChooser in response to that statement - Of course they don't, they don't want to lose their funding!

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Try to convince us, Diana, that in the above you weren't defending the notion of bombs in the WTC towers. Because that's Jones' theory. That's the theory of the experts whose credentials I was criticizing. That's the theory of those on that thread you joined in to defend.

I tell you what, Diana. I've give you a chance here and now to tell us you do NOT believe in the WTC bomb theories. Go ahead, prove me wrong. Or do you want to rest your defense on parsing your statements like Clinton?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-18   13:58:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: BeAChooser (#97)

Diana to BeAChooser in response to that statement - Of course they don't, they don't want to lose their funding!

You're really stretching it.

I was defending the credibility of scientists you were attempting to riducule, kind of like you do with DU and "health physicists".

That's kind of different than talking about bombs, as my technical knowledge in that area is not very good, that's why that topic skips over my head.

It's like accusing me of talking in Chinese about something when I don't speak Chinese.

Defending scientists is different than talking about bombs, though I suspect you already know that.

Diana  posted on  2007-03-18   19:04:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Diana, ALL (#122)

I was defending the credibility of scientists you were attempting to riducule, kind of like you do with DU and "health physicists".

But I do that to support a position on the topic being discussed. You mean to say you don't have a position on the topic being discussed? You just join in to defend the credibility of the scientists? Why don't you do that with structural engineers when RickyJ calls them ALL morons?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-03-18   22:10:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: BeAChooser (#138)

But I do that to support a position on the topic being discussed.

since when was the topic of this thread DU and Doug Rokke?

#20. To: Diana, ALL (#16)

A truth and a lie make little difference, only agenda matters.

Says someone who accepts the lies when it comes to bombs in the WTC, no Flight 77, John Hopkins' claiming 655,000 Iraqi dead and DU is the scourge of the millennium.

BeAChooser posted on 2007-03-17 21:50:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

yeah, just couldn't help yourself, right?
you're not even a capable amateur strawman, 'loser.

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