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Title: To my religious friends. Had Eve *NOT* eaten that apple....
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Published: Mar 19, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-03-19 13:29:18 by Jethro Tull
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do you assume the world would be a kinder, gentler place? Would the hounds of the NWO *not* be nipping at our heels had she obeyed? Am I wrong in thinking God was a wee bit harsh to Eve and subsequently all of mankind? As parents, I can't believe anyone here would treat a child as He did Eve. I mean talk about one strike and you're out. Anyway, thanks in advance for the input.
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
It was never not going to happen. For further injustice, check out the oldest book, the Book of Job.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12 KJV
yeah, we're all in this mess we're in for 6k+ years cuz of her moment of weakness?
Pretty much. ;-)
Good question to which I have no answer.
What wasn't going to happen, robin? I'll look at Job, thanks.
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What I mean is, if it had been Dick and Jane, or John and Susie, it all would have happened the same way with the same results. We are all Adam and Eve. It was a foregone conclusion.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12 KJV
So our present state is His will?
Jews and their pets - click me
I would put it more like predestination, He allowed it and knew it would happen that way. It's a picture of original sin, and why we need a Saviour. But no one puts a gun to our head to commit sin.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12 KJV
Are you looking to blame God for our state of affairs? (Honest question)
I'm one of your religious friends. Adam and Eve is an illustrative Jewish fable. End of story.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
No, I'm pondering His value system. The punishment doesn't fit the crime. If one takes the tale literally, how is it He's considered a loving God?
Jews and their pets - click me
To understand, you know too soon, there's no sense in trying.
song lyric or MUDDOG?
So I got that goin' for me, which is nice. Huh?
Jews and their pets - click me
Bob Dylan: It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)
I liked Heinlein's take.
If you take the red pill, does Big Pharma still win?
Which book was that?
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12 KJV
It makes a bit more sense with an equally powerful Devil. As I said to some seminary students I hosted through the church we attend, there are many men with a strong sense of justice who turn from devil-free Christianity because without the devil, the Christian ethical system is a farce. As for the state of affairs being His will, that might shed some light on Jesus: "Christ, look at the mess I made." Not that I believe any of this, but it can be made to make sense.
If you take the red pill, does Big Pharma still win?
Job: A Comedy of Justice
If you take the red pill, does Big Pharma still win?
I neither believe it, nor does it make a bit of sense. What kind of god would punish all of mankind for something so trivial?
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I agree.
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Very good description, but I would also add *free will* along with pre- destination. God not only gave us the rules by which to live by - he also endowed us with free will - hence, we get to choose whether we commit the sin or not.
#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#3. To: christine (#2)
yeah, we're all in this mess we're in for 6k+ years cuz of her moment of weakness?
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#5. To: robin (#1)
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
#7. To: robin (#6)
#8. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
To my religious friends. Had Eve *NOT* eaten that apple....
#11. To: Neil McIver (#9)
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
I've already said too much.
#13. To: MUDDOG (#12)
#14. To: MUDDOG (#12)
#15. To: christine (#13)
song lyric or MUDDOG?
I've already said too much.
#16. To: robin (#1)
Book of Job
#17. To: Tauzero (#16)
#18. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#19. To: robin (#17)
#20. To: Tauzero (#18)
Not that I believe any of this, but it can be made to make sense.
#21. To: bluedogtxn (#10)
Adam and Eve is an illustrative Jewish fable. End of story.
#22. To: robin (#8)
I would put it more like predestination, He allowed it and knew it would happen that way. It's a picture of original sin, and why we need a Saviour. But no one puts a gun to our head to commit sin.
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