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Title: USAgate scoop: Justice aide to TAKE THE FIFTH!
Source: Daily Kos
URL Source: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/26/154625/894
Published: Mar 26, 2007
Author: "EZ writer"
Post Date: 2007-03-26 15:58:12 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 310
Comments: 28

USAgate scoop: Justice aide to TAKE THE FIFTH!

by EZ writer [Subscribe]
Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 12:47:44 PM PDT

Breaking:

AP-APNEWSALERT

(AP) - WASHINGTON _ A Justice Department aide involved in the prosecutor firings will refuse to answer questions at a Senate hearing, citing protection against self-incrimination, her lawyer says.

holy crap!

Is someone facing a perjury rap if they testify?

WOW!

What next?

Stay tuned ...

WASHINGTON (AP) - Monica Goodling, a Justice Department official involved in the firings of federal prosecutors, will refuse to answer questions at upcoming Senate hearings, citing Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination, her lawyer said Monday.

"The potential for legal jeopardy for Ms. Goodling from even her most truthful and accurate testimony under these circumstances is very real," said the lawyer, John Dowd.

Yup. sounds to me like Ms. Gooding fears a perjury rap, perhaps from previous testimony to Congress?

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#1. To: aristeides, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#0)

Anybody would be wise to take the Fifth, if asked the time of day.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-26   16:00:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: SKYDRIFTER (#1)

I'm not sure it's a perjury rap she fears. I don't think she's testified to Congress yet.

I think it's a substantive crime.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-03-26   16:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: aristeides (#2)

As far as I know she hasn't testified. So you are right, she has probably participated in a crime linked to the attorney firings. I think she's a small fish so she might be a perfect candidate for immunity - so she can sing like a bird.

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...  posted on  2007-03-26   16:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: aristeides (#0)

I am trying to do some serious work and it's really hard with a new and even more heinous GOP scandal breaking every couple of hours.

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...  posted on  2007-03-26   16:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ... (#4)

Seriously, I'll be working late to make up for all these distractions.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-03-26   16:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: aristeides (#0)

Monica Goodling

Well well.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-03-26   16:39:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#6) (Edited)

http://www.regent.edu/alumni/chapters/washington_dc/DCPicnicPhotos.htm

Back row from left to right: Loretta Osei-Gray (Undergrad '03), Ricky Welborn (GOV '00), Christy Reise, Kyle Reise (BUS '99), Brian Geno (LAW '87)

Front row from left to right: Andrew McDonald (GOV '04), Esther McDonald, Monica Goodling (LAW '99), Richard Parker (GOV '98)

The committee approved subpoena power for key Justice Department officials involved in the firings: Michael Elston, Kyle Sampson, Monica Goodling, Bill Mercer and Mike Battle.

Mr. Sampson, Mr. Gonzales' chief of staff, quit this week.Mr. Elston is staff chief to Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty and Mr. Mercer is associate attorney general. Ms. Goodling is Mr. Gonzales' senior counsel and White House liaison, and Mr. Battle is the departing director of the office that oversees all 93 U.S. attorneys.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-03-26   16:48:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#7)

http://www.lcsun-news.com/breakingnews/ci_5442678

GOP lawyers met with Gonzales aide last summer By The Associated Press Article Launched: 03/15/2007 08:34:53 AM MDT

ALBUQUERQUE — Two New Mexico lawyers with strong ties to the state Republican Party met last summer with a top aide to U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and complained about then-U.S. Attorney David Iglesias.

Mickey Barnett on Wednesday confirmed he and fellow Albuquerque attorney Pat Rogers met June 21 with Monica Goodling, Gonzales' senior counsel in Washington, D.C., to vent frustrations about a New Mexico voter fraud investigation. continued...

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-03-26   16:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2952653&page=1

Following the E-Mails in the U.S. Attorney Dismissals

Justice Department Official Wrote to WH Staffer's RNC E-Mail Account

...Although e-mails released on Tuesday show Sampson working hand in hand with the White House counsel's office, several pages of e-mails show Justice Department officials dealing with White House political staff on the U.S. attorneys issue.

These include communications between Monica Goodling, the Justice Department- White House liaison and senior counselor to Gonzales, and Scott Jennings, the deputy political director at the White House.

The e-mails show that Jennings apparently used his Republican National Committee e-mail account to communicate with Justice Department officials.

continued...

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-03-26   17:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2007/03/20/decoding-justice-documents

permalink: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2007/03/20/decoding-justice-documents/trackback/

March 20, 2007

Decoding Justice Documents

In the thousands of documents released in Congress’s investigation of the firing of eight U.S. attorneys last year, some are easy to understand — and others use code that even recipients don’t understand.

On Sept. 13, 2006, a White House aide sent an email asking Justice Department and White House officials to clear Tim Griffin (a former assistant to White House aide Karl Rove and the replacement for the fired U.S. attorney in Little Rock, Ark.) “for permanent status … Counselor to the Assistant Attorney General DJES.” One recipient, Monica Goodling, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’s senior counsel and one of the key Justice Department officials involved in the firings, wrote back “Thank you!”

Another, Luis A. Reyes, a White House official, then wrote to Goodling: “Dumb question. Remind me what DJES is? Where will Tim go?”

Goodling’s reply: “I have no idea what it stands for, but he’s Counselor to the CRIM AAG technically, but will be detailed to the USAO in Arkansas after EOD’ing.” Got it?

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-03-26   17:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: angle (#7)

Oh my.........she's an attorney, too.......fear of losing her license, eh!

rowdee  posted on  2007-03-26   17:06:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#10)

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002760.php

...So maybe Hertling didn't ask Sampson (the man at the department supposedly in charge of the purge) or Sampson lied to him.

But there's somebody else who knew: Monica Goodling, the Justice Department's liaison to the White House.

The emails show Goodling going back and forth with Sampson and Rove's deputy Scott Jennings about how to install Griffin without kicking up too much fuss. In an August 18th email (which has Jennings cc'ed), Goodling writes that they have a "senator prob" with Griffin's possible nomination -- meaning that one of Arkansas' senators had raised an objection to Griffin's nomination. That's followed by a paragraph brainstorming how to get Griffin in anyway.

Goodling's job at the Justice Department was to communicate with the White House -- and the emails show that Sampson even emailed drafts of correspondence to Goodling before sending it on to the White House...

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-03-26   17:10:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: angle, robin (#6)

This is really cracking me up. I can just envision all those eager-beaver gopers at TOS1, who were so smug at what they believed they discovered with Dan Rather, et al, are now going thru. All the contortions, voodo doll pins, etc., at trying to cover for their beloved leader and his admin.

C'mon,.....more....more........more. Make Nixon just a passing comment in history against all the bullcrappy this administration has done. The fish rots from the head down!

rowdee  posted on  2007-03-26   17:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: rowdee (#11)

"Overblown personnel matter" = "Third-rate burglary"

Uh oh.

Posted by: Uncle Don
Date: March 26, 2007 04:55 PM

Interesting posting on TPM Muckraker forum.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-03-26   17:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: aristeides (#14)

Oh, that is gooooooooood!

rowdee  posted on  2007-03-26   17:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: rowdee (#11)

Oh my.........she's an attorney, too.......fear of losing her license, eh!

These arrogant bastards got some 'splainin to do.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-03-26   17:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: All (#16)

LOTS of info here:

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-retro_DOJemails_070319.html

Inside the U.S. Attorneys Emails: Major Players and Themes

EMAIL

From: Monica Goodling
Sent: Aug. 18, 2006

To: Kyle Sampson

Subject: RE: Conf Call, re: Tim Griffin

Fyi -- to catch you up on the latest here (unless something else has happened this week), scott and I spoke last thurs or fri and this what's going on:

We have a senator prob, so while wh is intent on nominating, scott things we may have a confirmation issue. Also, WH has a personnel issue as tim returns to the states this week and is still on WH payroll.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-03-26   17:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: aristeides (#0)

Gonzales Aide Won't Testify in Senate
By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer

[Goodling's attorney] Dowd said that since then a senior Justice Department official had privately told a member of the Senate committee that he was misled by Goodling and others before testifying.

Gonzales' truthfulness about the firings of seven prosecutors on Dec. 7 and another one months earlier also have been questioned. On March 13 at a news conference, Gonzales denied that he participated in discussions or saw any documents about the firings, despite documents that show he attended a Nov. 27 meeting with senior aides on the topic, where he approved a detailed plan to carry out the dismissals.

Goodling was one of five senior Justice Department aides who met with Gonzales for that Nov. 27 discussion. Department documents released Friday to Capitol Hill show she attended multiple meetings about the dismissals for months.

She also was among aides who on Feb. 5 helped Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty prepare his testimony for a Senate hearing the next day - during which he may have given Congress incomplete or otherwise misleading information about the circumstances of the firings.

Additionally, Goodling was involved in an April 6, 2006, phone call between the Justice Department and Sen. Pete Domenici, R-N.M., who had complained to the Bush administration and the president about David Iglesias, then the U.S. attorney in Albuquerque. Domenici wanted Iglesias to push more aggressively on a corruption probe against Democrats before the 2006 elections.

The Justice Department appeared surprised Monday to hear of Goodling's decision on testifying.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-03-26   18:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: MUDDOG (#18)

The Justice Department appeared surprised Monday to hear of Goodling's decision on testifying.

O Really? I'm sure you can't believe anything those lying bastards say.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-03-26   18:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: angle (#19)

She could be acting on her own to save her skin.

Maybe they thought she'd take the fall like Scooter.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-03-26   18:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: angle (#17)

Is this a case of double dipping---like being in military and drawing pay, and serving in wh capacity at same time?

rowdee  posted on  2007-03-26   18:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: rowdee (#13)

This is really cracking me up. I can just envision all those eager-beaver gopers at TOS1, who were so smug at what they believed they discovered with Dan Rather, et al, are now going thru. All the contortions, voodo doll pins, etc., at trying to cover for their beloved leader and his admin.

They are not reporting this at all. Go look at the Breaking News bar, just stuff about the Brit hostages and one story about how the Democrats want to surrender to the terrorists. It's the way the GOP is spinning this and/or ignoring it that makes me think this is big and the dirt isn't buried very deeply. It's as if the aministration expects it to come out.

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...  posted on  2007-03-26   19:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: rowdee (#15)

I do like the sound of Monicagate.

Posted by: Ad Absurdum
Date: March 26, 2007 07:00 PM

Another posting on the TPM Muckraker forum.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-03-26   19:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: aristeides (#0)

Monica Goodlings Statement From Her Attorneys (pdf)

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...  posted on  2007-03-26   19:30:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: rowdee (#13)

This is really cracking me up. I can just envision all those eager-beaver gopers at TOS1, who were so smug

LP isn't reporting this and Goldi has a nasty "No posting of non-news items" thread up. She blasted the article about the General's kid using drugs under this rule. There might be a "No DOJ or US Attorney" rule in effect over there.

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...  posted on  2007-03-26   19:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: ... (#25)

Oddly, FRetard City seems to have missed the news as well. Not a peep.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-03-26   20:02:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: ... (#22)

Geeze...........as though by 'not seeing the problem' [and never mind it was due to your willingly having stuck your head up your asshole] means it isn't there or isn't happening!

Bunch of silly, pious dolts.

rowdee  posted on  2007-03-26   20:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: ... (#25)

Apparently the resident idiot thinks if it is not mentioned, it aint happening!

rowdee  posted on  2007-03-26   20:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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