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Title: 2nd Debris Field Found 6 miles from United 93 Crash Site
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeWi0JpI__M
Published: Mar 27, 2007
Author: CNN
Post Date: 2007-03-27 18:54:41 by honway
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#1. To: honway (#0)

Another one of those reports that the media and the gov desperately try to ignore now, eh?

Critter  posted on  2007-03-27   19:24:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Critter (#1)

Another one of those reports that the media and the gov desperately try to ignore now, eh?

There are only two possibilities here.

1.The 9/11 Commission lied in their report concerning the crash of United 93.

2. There was a second debris field 6 or more miles away from the primary crash site.

It really is that simple. If it can be confirmed there was a 2nd debris field, the 9/11 Commission deliberately lied to the American people and participated in a cover-up of mass murder.

honway  posted on  2007-03-27   19:39:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: honway (#2)

Well, that report did say they had a crw on their way out to the new debris field. I wonder if they ever got there and did a report from there?

Critter  posted on  2007-03-27   19:50:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Critter (#3)

I wonder if they ever got there and did a report from there?

It would definitely be valuable footage, of the 'smoking gun' kind.

honway  posted on  2007-03-27   19:57:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: honway (#4)

16 minutes into this clip, the spin begins:

http://www.archive.org/details/cnn200109131623-1705

Critter  posted on  2007-03-27   20:37:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8) (Edited)

The FBI is saying debris was found 8 miles away. They say that it was found to the southeast, and that there was a 9 knot wind blowing to the southeast. They said that the NTSB said not only is it feasible for lightweight debris to be carried 8 miles in that wind, but probable.

9 knots is 10.3 mph. In order for debris to be blown 8 miles, it would have had to remain airborn for about 50 minutes. 50 minutes!

Is that about as ludicrous a contention as you ever heard?

Critter  posted on  2007-03-27   20:46:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Critter, honway (#9)

Is that about as ludicrous a contention as you ever heard?

I bet BeAChooser could rationally explain it.

wbales  posted on  2007-03-27   21:06:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: wbales (#13)

I bet BeAChooser could rationally explain it.

For the next few hours, Hankinson gathered charred pages of in-flight magazines, papers from a pilot's manual -- she remembers a map showing the Guadalajara, Mexico, airport -- and copies of stock portfolio monthly earnings reports.

"And there was some black webbing -- a lot of people found that," she said. The webbing, flexible where it hadn't burned, crisp where it had, was from insulation lining the belly of the jetliner.

Are you saying that paper and other light debris (that was mostly what was found 8 miles away) can't travel that distance on a windy day? Come on guys stop shooting yourselves in the foot.

Destro  posted on  2007-03-27   21:35:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Destro (#17) (Edited)

Are you saying that paper and other light debris (that was mostly what was found 8 miles away) can't travel that distance on a windy day? Come on guys stop shooting yourselves in the foot.

Extremely UNlikely given the angle of the crash--almost straight in.

The close up of the impact crater, here:

http://stj911.org/ evidence/flight93.html#debris_fields

shows papers laying about but NO identifiable plane parts: how can paper survive but identifiable plane parts not?? Perhaps, this is the same type of indestrucable paper product from which a highjackers passport was made from-- the one found on the New York City sidewalk after the WTC conflagration.

Light debris would get caught up in terrain features prior to traveling 8 miles.

Further, an engine core was reported to have been found 2000 feet from the impact crater.

Another point: the burned trees adjacent to the impact crater indicate the jet was traveling west.

wbales  posted on  2007-03-28   8:11:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: wbales, loopy (#37) (Edited)

Paper was reported in various stages of intactness from partially burned to intact.

If it was blown up in the air the momentum would have carried parts over but it did not.

I see plane parts everywhere around the impact zone- the plane broke up into small pieces - there are no substantial plane debris outside the impact area.

Thus using fabric and paper bits found some miles away downwind as proof it was shot down is weak at best - deceptive at worst. When things explode in the air traveling at speed they don't fall straight down - they fall towards their previous momentum. Newtonian physics.

PS: I hold an airframe and power plant license since High School.

Destro  posted on  2007-03-28   14:22:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Destro (#42)

PS: I hold an airframe and power plant license since High School.

Well then. I thought you worked for a steel plant.

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angle  posted on  2007-03-28   15:02:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: angle (#43) (Edited)

Well then. I thought you worked for a steel plant.

I did.

I graduated a vocational aviation high school - I got a high school diploma while I was taking shop courses.

Since my grades were good enough I went to college and never worked in the field.

Honey Pot Operation: A honey pot operation, is one in which the government attracts overwhelming attention to an easily disprovable issue, making it the cornerstone of for example the 9/11 truth movement. According to Chris Farrell, the Director of Investigations & Research at Judicial Watch a honey pot operation is "a baited trap, it draws somebody into a situation in which they're compromised."

Destro  posted on  2007-03-28   16:05:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Destro (#45)

I guess you got your power plant license in high school as well. Did you learn the aerodynamics of debris there as well? And, conveniently, you work in a steel plant? Simply amazing coincidence.

angle  posted on  2007-03-28   16:21:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#48. To: angle (#46)

I guess you got your power plant license in high school as well. Did you learn the aerodynamics of debris there as well? And, conveniently, you work in a steel plant? Simply amazing coincidence.

No longer, we were taken over in a hostile takeover and I started a new job - in the print media!! It's a conspiracy!!!

I also went to school to get my teaching license but never finished that because the private sector paid better.

Destro  posted on  2007-03-28 16:51:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: angle (#46)

I guess you got your power plant license in high school as well

Yup - my A&P by 18. Never worked in the field though. I went to the vocational school to avoid my zone school which was in the ghetto. As a white guy I did not want to be a human target at my designated ghetto school and my parents were too poor to send me to private school.

Destro  posted on  2007-03-28 16:53:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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