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Title: Dobson Offers Insight on 2008 Republican Hopefuls ("I DON'T THINK HE'S A CHRISTIAN")
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U.S. News & World Report
URL Source: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070328/28dobson.htm
Published: Mar 28, 2007
Author: Dan Gilgoff
Post Date: 2007-03-28 16:03:44 by aristeides
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Dobson Offers Insight on 2008 Republican Hopefuls Focus on Family Founder Snubs Thompson, Praises Gingrich By Dan Gilgoff Focus on the Family founder James Dobson appeared to throw cold water on a possible presidential bid by former Sen. Fred Thompson while praising former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who is also weighing a presidential run, in a phone interview Tuesday. "Everyone knows he's conservative and has come out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for," Dobson said of Thompson. "[But] I don't think he's a Christian; at least that's my impression," Dobson added, saying that such an impression would make it difficult for Thompson to connect with the Republican Party's conservative Christian base and win the GOP nomination. Mark Corallo, a spokesman for Thompson, took issue with Dobson's characterization of the former Tennessee senator. "Thompson is indeed a Christian," he said. "He was baptized into the Church of Christ." In a follow-up phone conversation, Focus on the Family spokesman Gary Schneeberger stood by Dobson's claim. He said that, while Dobson didn't believe Thompson to be a member of a non-Christian faith, Dobson nevertheless "has never known Thompson to be a committed Christian—someone who talks openly about his faith." "We use that word—Christian—to refer to people who are evangelical Christians," Schneeberger added. "Dr. Dobson wasn't expressing a personal opinion about his reaction to a Thompson candidacy; he was trying to 'read the tea leaves' about such a possibility." Thompson has said he is leaving the door open for a presidential run and has won plaudits from conservatives who are unenthusiastic about the Republican front-runners. A Gallup-USA Today poll, released Tuesday, showed Thompson in third place among Republican and Republican-leaning voters, behind former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Arizona Sen. John McCain. While making it clear he was not endorsing any Republican presidential candidate, Dobson, who is considered the most politically powerful evangelical figure in the country, also said that Gingrich was the "brightest guy out there" and "the most articulate politician on the scene today." Gingrich recently appeared on Dobson's daily Focus on the Family radio program, carried by upward of 2,000 American radio stations, where he made headlines by discussing an extramarital affair he was having even as he pursued impeachment against President Bill Clinton for his handling of the investigation into the Monica Lewinsky affair. Dobson's phone call to U.S. News senior editor Dan Gilgoff Tuesday was unsolicited. It marked Gilgoff's first discussion with Dobson in over two years, since the magazine's political writer began work on The Jesus Machine: How James Dobson, Focus on the Family, and Evangelical America are Winning the Culture War, published this month by St. Martin's Press. Dobson had agreed to answer only written questions for the book. Dobson's comments yesterday about the 2008 presidential race appear to be his first to a secular news organization in months. Dobson recently sat down with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at Focus on the Family's Colorado Springs headquarters, marking his only meeting to date with a top-tier Republican presidential candidate. While Dobson would not comment directly on the Romney meeting, he stood by comments he made late last year that many evangelicals would find it difficult to support Romney because of his Mormonism. "I still think that might be an impediment for him," Dobson said. "There are conservative Christians who will not vote for him because of his Mormon faith. I'm not saying that's the correct view or my view. But [presidential nominees] lose elections by 5 or 6 percent of the vote, so you don't have to lose much of the conservative Christian vote" to make a difference in the election. Dobson said that neither of the two other Republican presidential front-runners—Giuliani or McCain—has attempted to contact him. "I do not believe that the current excitement over Giuliani will continue," Dobson said. Dobson was a major force in the 2004 election, giving the first public presidential endorsement of his career to George W. Bush. Bush got nearly 6 million new white evangelical votes in 2004 that he didn't get in 2000, accounting for about twice his margin of victory. Dobson's national activist network led an unprecedented effort to get conservative evangelicals to the polls. Its greatest impact was likely in Ohio, the lynchpin to Bush's re-election, where Bush won by fewer than 120,000 votes. Dobson, who turns 71 years old next month, has been the subject of recent rumors that he would retire from his position of Focus on the Family chairman and possibly step out of the political spotlight in the next couple of years. In the interview, however, Dobson said that he no intention of doing either. "I have 10-to-12-hour-a-day energy," Dobson said. "I feel that God has asked me to do what I'm doing. I have no intention to stay away."
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#1. To: All (#0)
Protestant Thompson not a Christian. Mormon Romney not a Christian. I guess my fellow Catholic Giuliani isn't a Christian either. Meanwhile, Gingrich is the best candidate. Yeah, he's a real Christian. Look at how Christian his behavior has been.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
What faith does Newtie-pie profess to belong to?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
You mean he's not a butt thumpin evangelical christian like Ted Haggard?
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi
Winner of the Daily Rapture-nutter Update Award.
How many times can you be married and divorced if you're a Catholic?
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi
If you're baptized Catholic, you're considered Catholic, no matter what sins you afterwards commit. Depending on what those sins are, you may even be excommunicated, but you're still considered Catholic.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Giuliani has bigger problems than being nixed by Pastor christonutter Dobson. On March 07/07, the editors of National Catholic Register journal discouraged Catholics from voting for Rudy. It was his anti-abortion views that offended them and probably his adultery and 3 marriages did not help either. What a guy! http://www.foxnews.com /story/0,2933,257502,00.html A Catholic newspaper is telling readers that Catholics shouldn't support White House hopeful Rudy Giuliani because of his support for allowing women access to abortions. The National Catholic Register's editorial urges anti-abortion voters to choose another candidate other than Giuliani. "A Republican party led by a pro-abortion politician would become a pro- abortion party," according to the editorial that appears on the Web site and is set to appear next week in the newspaper's print edition. Editors say "they hope that pro-lifers will 'be reasonable,' not let the perfect be the enemy of the good, and go along quietly," but "we won't." "When they ask us to 'be reasonable' and go along with a pro-abortion leader, Giuliani stated in 1999 that he doesn't see himself changing his position on allowing women the right to a partial-birth abortion, which occurs in the late term of a pregnancy. Last month, he told FOX News' Hannity & Colmes that he would support a ban on partial-birth abortion if it contained an exception for getting one if giving birth would endanger the life of the mother. The editorial also warns that Giuliani's pledges to appoint judges like Justices Samuel Alito and John Roberts ring hollow. "Would a pro-abortion president give us a pro-life Supreme Court justice? Maybe he would in his first term. But we’ve seen in the Democratic Party how quickly and completely contempt for the right to life corrupts. Even if a President Giuliani did the right thing for a short time, it’s likely the party that accepted him would do the wrong thing for a long time," the editorial reads. Saying that parties often become cults of personality built around the president that leads it, the editors argue that if Republicans put an abortion rights nominee on the ballot, the party will lose "the gains they've built for decades."
And thereby forever discrediting themselves and their movement.
His "margin of victory" was due more to the black-box voting machines, and other vote fraud, than dobson's nutters, imo.
The same mistake as when God had Samuel anoint Saul.
Ain't it a hoot.........let's go for the one known to not be able to keep his pants up; known to have sought a divorce from the first wifey as she lay in a hospital bed, the results of cancer........yeppers......... Never mind, the bastid single=handedly handed the WTO/GATT victory to those seeking to destroy the usa's sovereignty, while admitting voting so would do just that! And isn't it interesting he prefers someone who thinks Christ was a philosopher? Furthermore, just for the record---being baptized into some church association means nothing, zip, zilch, nada. It neither makes one a church member--in neither the current era notion of church, nor in the original meaning of the word; nor does it provide salvation. Organized religion should be banned, I am coming to think.
the comment accompanying this is hilarious. "First off, buy the bimbette some feet and a bra." :p
dobson is a skunk..a hagee type. all these "evangelists" are so full of themselves.
Evangelical Christians = Jewish WASPS
I guess we'll have to wait until he finishes consulting the chicken entrails and goats' blood, too, for his final take on the issue.
"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."
What gives them the right to deny the title "Christian" to all the historic Christian churches -- Catholic, Orthodox, mainline Protestant? They're the ones who depart from what Christianity has historically been.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Same right thay have to smear people like Lew Rockwell, Paul Craig Roberts, and I've conditioned most of them to ignore me. I'm going to try selling the illegal turtle eggs in a popular weekly soon, so don't buy any "People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
"It's not a coincidence pimps and older Jewish women have the same taste in clothing, either." - Dot
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
Is he leaning forward in that shot or is he suffering some sort of cranial monsterism? Spooky at any rate.
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
K-Mart Blue light specials?
well, I was picturing more a faux-leopard with plenty-o-bling look, to be honest.
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
Please remove any reference to turtles in post #19 or Odin will smite you.
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
She does have at least one foot. I don't know if it's real or not, though.
The benefits of education and of useful knowledge, generally diffused through a community, are essential to the preservation of a free government. - Sam Houston
and a bra? and pantie lines?
The internet has come to a near stop for me! Damned, is it ever slow. Anyhow, that picture cracks me up. I did not recognize fred thompson (big woo) and as they so aptly noted, the bimbette was daughter or granddaughter. Funny that it was his wife! Her judgement, not to mention his, is reason enough to keep them away from 1600! And, for the record, I agree regarding the hagee and dobson comment.
Now there's a god who actually might unify us.
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
I just registered. I want kosher meat.
You have to vant it, baby!
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
I hate to say this but this reminds me of the B&W footage of the Nazis measuring the heads, ears and eyes of the potential Jews.
Someone else called her a porn-star mermaid. She could use a waist, too.
Meanwhile, Gingrich is the best candidate. Yeah, he's a real Christian. Look at how Christian his behavior has been. Frightening. I used to listen to this man.
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
#2. To: aristeides (#1)
#3. To: Fred Mertz (#2)
#4. To: aristeides (#0)
"We use that word—Christian—to refer to people who are evangelical Christians,"
#5. To: aristeides (#0)
#6. To: aristeides (#1)
I guess my fellow Catholic Giuliani isn't a Christian either.
#7. To: angle (#6)
#8. To: aristeides (#1)
I guess my fellow Catholic Giuliani isn't a Christian either.
#9. To: aristeides (#0)
Dobson was a major force in the 2004 election, giving the first public presidential endorsement of his career to George W. Bush. Bush got nearly 6 million new white evangelical votes in 2004 that he didn't get in 2000, accounting for about twice his margin of victory.
I've already said too much.
#10. To: MUDDOG. all (#9)
#11. To: aristeides (#0)
Snicker. Check out the future First Lady.
#12. To: aristeides (#0)
Dobson was a major force in the 2004 election, giving the first public presidential endorsement of his career to George W. Bush.
I've already said too much.
#13. To: aristeides (#1)
#14. To: Mekons4 (#11)
#15. To: rowdee (#13)
#16. To: aristeides (#0)
#17. To: aristeides (#0)
"We use that word—Christian—to refer to people who are evangelical Christians," Schneeberger added. "Dr. Dobson wasn't expressing a personal opinion about his reaction to a Thompson candidacy; he was trying to 'read the tea leaves' about such a possibility."
#18. To: orangedog (#17)
#19. To: aristeides (#18)
What gives them the right to deny the title "Christian" to all the historic Christian churches -- Catholic, Orthodox, mainline Protestant?
me you? more turtle eggs, eh.
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
Evangelical Christians = Jewish WASPS
#21. To: christine (#14)
#22. To: Dakmar (#20)
same taste in clothing
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#22)
#24. To: Jethro Tull (#22)
#25. To: christine (#14)
#26. To: Sam Houston (#25)
(Edited)
She does have at least one foot. I don't know if it's real or not, though.
#27. To: christine (#15)
#28. To: Dakmar (#24)
Odin
#29. To: Jethro Tull (#28)
we can't all be dot-com jews.
#30. To: Dakmar (#29)
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
#32. To: aristeides (#7)
#33. To: christine (#14)
the comment accompanying this is hilarious. "First off, buy the bimbette some feet and a bra." :p
#34. To: aristeides (#1)
Protestant Thompson not a Christian. Mormon Romney not a Christian. I guess my fellow Catholic Giuliani isn't a Christian either.
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