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OpEdNews Original Content at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_john_kus_070328_breaking_my_silence_.htm Breaking my silence on 9/11 Truth By John Kusumi Initially I preferred to keep silent about the 9/11 Truth Movement, to not be diverted from my issue. I've been associated with the China Support Network, being its founder, and in recent years, I give my speeches in that vein exclusively. That means, I have a cause and I don't need a spare cause, nor a soapbox, nor a reason to be known in the public discourse, where I've contributed since 1980. My 9/11 article is written, not oral; in any public appearance, I remain on the China issue. The article is volunteered and not sponsored; I simply think it fair to have the question, "What happened on 9/11?", and to have the indicated investigation that is genuine and impartial, rather than a whitewash. Read on, to where I suggest a role for Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly. Recently, Rosie O'Donnell raised the issue of 9/11 Truth, questioning how one or more of the buildings fell in New York City on September 11, 2001. Also, actor Charlie Sheen has come out with his own questions and concerns about what happened that day, and we've learned that he will narrate an updated version of Loose Change, a documentary that questions the official story of 9/11. This led to mentions on television by Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck, top conservative commentators who seem to have replaced George Will and Bob Novak. (Note to youngsters: The latter were leading conservative commentators in the post-Watergate period. What's Watergate? Check Wikipedia.) I cannot be counted a fanatic on the issue of 9/11 truth. I do my share of writing, publishing, and speaking; and, but for one related blog post, this is my first article on the subject. The standard that I would like to uphold is truth, period -- something that all should care about, and that journalists in particular should be finicky to discern and record accurately. The field of journalism at least bills itself to be concerned about non-fiction and a first draft of history. I believe that non-fiction and truth are synonyms, and that to sweat these details ought to be right up the alley of U.S. journalists. Imagine if you will a bumper sticker that says: "Pearl Harbor: Roosevelt Knew." In the 1940s, there were many very staunch, patriotic citizens, who likely had full faith in their President Roosevelt (FDR) and for whom our hypothetical bumper sticker may hurt, or sting deeply. The sticker could be rejected on the simple basis that it is alien to the world view, held by those observers, of FDR as an upright and above-board U.S. President. More recent research, however, has convinced many historians that the sticker is indeed accurate. I believe that even our mainstream commentators have allowed the same, so that we now have an accepted view of history, to wit that Roosevelt had foreknowledge of the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor. If so, then the truth behind Pearl Harbor becomes LIHOP -- Let It Happen On Purpose. The above paragraph does NOT prove anything about 9/11. If people make bumper stickers saying, "9/11: Bush Knew," then they still must make their case. For those who assert provocatively, there is an onus or a burden of proof. Words are not "more true" on a bumper sticker, and "less true" elsewhere. The standard of proof is not in the placement of the words. However, I believe and would stand behind a bumper sticker that said: "Tiananmen Square: Bush Knew." (That refers to the elder President Bush, who gave a nod and a wink to Chinese leaders before their troops went to Tiananmen Square. Chinese leaders MIHOP -- Made It Happen On Purpose.) For those who are toying with the possibilities, alternate explanations for 9/11 include (a.) "we were surprised -- they got one by us (totally innocent);" (b.) "we were warned, but we failed to connect the dots (totally incompetent);" (c.) LIHOP (partial inside job, partially sinister); and (d.) MIHOP (an inside job, totally sinister). The official explanation has already migrated, since the early days, from (a.) to (b.). Perhaps one reason why I've avoided 9/11 Truth as a topic is due to its parallel with rejecting the "Roosevelt knew of Pearl Harbor" thought, as above. Explanations (c.) and (d.) for 9/11 entail the culpability of someone in our own government. It is alien to the world view that the U.S. Government protects Americans. In this case, Americans were harmed by perpetrators who were clearly evil, and it is harsh -- indeed anguishing -- to contemplate the case if it were that the hand of evil was partly domestic. Culpability within our own government would make 9/11 the crime of the century. I will not take up the job of re-iterating the case that's been made by the 9/11 Truth Movement. But, increasing numbers of questions have been uncovered, and the awareness of prior warnings, given to the U.S. government in advance, has increased. The number of warnings reported has risen since the early days -- the immediate aftermath of 9/11. This means that we know more now, than previously. For brevity, I'd care to focus on three points that I'll call, "Tip-off #1, Tip-off #2, and The Nub Of The Matter." To me, Tip-off #1 is a point that I earlier blogged: "It seems ridiculously implausible that the FBI tracked down 19 mug shots of 19 hijackers, and got that to the news media the same day as the attacks! Again, without inside knowledge, but with general awareness of the working world, how it goes, and what's plausible -- I look at that, and I say to myself, 'prepared slide.'" Each airplane had more than five passengers. Full investigation took less than a day, and the FBI knew precisely who among the passengers was "in" and "out" of the conspiracy. This was reported with certitude the same day, and the official slide with the 19 men remains an enduring memory, seared in there without additions or deletions. (Where we might have expected a developing story, the slide did not change, although some of the hijackers were reported to be alive and well, still living in the Middle East.) The mere fact that the FBI had those 19 mug shots "tips off" their prior familiarity with these men. Tip-off #2 is a recent point. In late February, 2007, the 9/11 Truth Movement released BBC video from 9/11, in which the BBC reported that building seven had collapsed IN ADVANCE. That is to say that the building was still standing while the BBC reported the demise of the building. The timing of their story was off. Half an hour later, the building came down and "got on the page." It seems that Aaron Brown over at CNN made a similar report, that the building was toast before it was in fact toast. 9/11 was certainly a day of "on the ground" events happening. But Tip-offs #1 and #2 each strongly suggest that 9/11 was also a day of news being spoonfed by the media. The early report of building seven collapsing (at BBC and CNN) was not from eyewitnesses on the ground. The faulty information had to come from somewhere (A prepared plan? A press release?) other than eyeballs on the scene. Where did the media get this information, and who was spoonfeeding it to them? Let's move to the nub of the matter. Many in the 9/11 Truth Movement are screaming that controlled demolition brought the buildings down. The original designs and plans for the World Trade Center were meant to withstand a jetliner impact, although we can admit that the designs probably contemplated earlier planes and less jet fuel. Hence, I believe that the towers natively would have withstood impact from a circa 1970 Boeing 737, and that the real difference in the case of 9/11 was "all that jet fuel." The official explanation of 9/11 hinges on the idea that "all that jet fuel" brought the towers down. (And, in my view, the official explanation cannot explain the fall of building seven, which did not even have an airplane impact.) What's true is this: jet fuel has a particular temperature at which it burns, and steel has a particular temperature at which it melts. These are empirically measurable, so there need not be different melting points for liberals, conservatives, mainstreamers, and "loony wack job internet conspiracy theorists." It is America's chronically-lame news media that is so quick to be so judgmental -- or at least, it was Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck who, on their shows, seemed to circle the wagons for "mainstream thinking" -- at the expense of others, who were the recipients for name-calling and ad hominem attacks. (Note to youngsters: Ad hominem or "to the man" attacks never prove anything. If person A says that "X is true," and then person B says "Yah well, A is a Communist," that does not prove that X is false. X will be true or false, independently of whether A is a Communist. Even Communists can say true things --so really, personal details about A are irrelevant to X.) In their recent televised statements, O'Reilly and Beck "took sides," fulfilling their (God-given? Bush-given?) roles as defenders of "official truth." And, it seems to me, this taking of sides was in the absence of kicking the tires or full investigation. (An entire separate article could be made with the reservations about the 9/11 Commission.) If we actually cared to get to the bottom of 9/11, I believe that we would measure the temperature of burning jet fuel, and the melting point of structural steel. I've never done it personally, so perhaps I could still join Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck -- I do not know the outcome of the test that I propose. (Are there published specifications that state these two temperatures? Yes, but the 9/11 Truth Movement is where arguments have broken out over empirical data. One side or the other might warn me against trusting a high school chemistry book, so I am now too skeptical for any approach that cannot "show me." It remains true, for me, that seeing is believing.) I want to see a test in which they try to melt steel with jet fuel. While I personally lack a handy supply of either, there are 50 State Governors who could order their National Guard to undertake this test (and, if Fox and CNN want to save their credibility, they could fund this test). A vat of jet fuel should be prepared, perhaps sunken into the ground as in a foundation or a back yard swimming pool. A steel girder meeting the same specifications as WTC columns should be placed across this vat. I don't require a re-creation of the towers; just one girder. For good measure, one could place a heavy weight like a wrecking ball atop the girder. Then simply ignite the vat and let the jet fuel burn. Show me that jet fuel can melt steel. Here, I have devolved the case to a test of an empirical nature with a boolean outcome: the test either will, or will not, melt the steel. If it will, then I will be more ready to believe the official story. If it will not, then "Houston, we have a problem," and a full explanation of 9/11 must then involve more effort to bring down the towers; more than merely the thought of letting the jet fuel burn to do its thing. What's notable about America's news media has been its LACK of inquiry, curiosity, and skepticism. As one of the biggest atrocities against Americans on our own soil, 9/11 should logically be the MOST deserving of investigation, skepticism, and critical inquiry. O'Reilly and Beck share that "oh so certain" quality of the suave, sophisticated media announcers who read the news from Easy Street, while truth-seekers are derided for being "out of the mainstream." How sure are they, really? How will they react to my proposal of this test? Are they just smoothies who are putting one past the public? This test could tell us the answer, and for one more requirement: --I want it to be Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck who presses the button to ignite the jet fuel. Either the girder, or their credibility, will become toast. Authors Website: http://www.kusumi.com Authors Bio: John Kusumi, in 1984, was the independent "18-year-old" for U.S. President. Presidential politics has no earlier introduction of "the politics of practical idealism," which Kusumi championed with his "People Are Important" bumper stickers. He continues to work on a manuscript, 'Genocidal Correctness' to define and debunk "the reservation" of "mainstream thinking." See http://Kusumi.com.
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#101. To: BeAChooser (#100)
HORSESHIT. i knew you'd split hairs. it is for a 110 story building. you're still disingenuous, a liar, and evil.
Just curious. Why is it you think I'm jewish ... or a guy? The folks at 4um seem to jump to conclusions all the time. Most of the time, erroneously. Maybe this is another instance.
FALSE. this source (a conspiracy source, by the way) states that this image: was taken "11 seconds into the collapse". Notice how much of the tower is still standing? So when are you folks finally going to give up on this silly assertion? Will you ever? Or will you simply go on discrediting yourselves, this forum and the "truth movement"?
Is it righteous if its based on falsehoods?
************* http://www.911myths.com/html/passport_recovered.html
The story... The passport of one of the hijackers was found at
the WTC. It's clearly impossible for any personal effects to survive the impact
and explosion, therefore it must have been planted. Our take...
Our first reaction is why would they bother? What does it add to the story?
There was no need to “plant passports”. We’ve never seen anyone say “they must
have been on the planes because look, the NYPD found that passport”. It’s
completely unnecessary, and is only ever used as evidence of an “inside job”.
But could the passport have escaped destruction? Explosions are
unpredictable things, it’s surprising what can survive, and there are accounts
of personal effects being retrieved from other passengers. Here’s one from
Flight 175. ----------- Orange County, CA., Sept. 11 - Lisa Anne
Frost was 22 and had just graduated from Boston University in May 2001 with two
degrees and multiple academic and service honors. She had worked all summer in
Boston before coming home, finally, to California to start her new life. The
Rancho Santa Margarita woman was on United Flight 175 on the morning of Sept.
11, 2001, when it became the second plane to slam into the World Trade Center...
Her parents, Tom and Melanie Frost, have spent two years knowing they will
never understand why. A few days before the first anniversary of our
daughter's murder, we were notified that they had found a piece of her in the
piles and piles of gritty rubble of the World Trade Center that had been hauled
out to Staten Island. It was Lisa's way, we believe, of telling us she wasn't
lost. In February, the day of the Columbia tragedy, we got word they'd found
her United Airlines Mileage Plus card. It was found very near where they'd found
a piece of her right hip. We imagine that she used the card early on the morning
of Sept. 11 to get on the plane and just stuck it in her back pocket, probably
her right back pocket, instead of in her purse. They have found no other
personal effects. ------------------------------ It’s a card rather than paper, and wasn’t
ejected from the building, but this does demonstrate that not everything was
incinerated. And it’s not alone. There are similar reports from the other crash
scenes, including a drivers licence and luggage tag recovered from Flight 77 and
even more from Flight 93. ------------------------------ United
Airlines Flight 93 slammed into the earth Sept. 11 near Shanksville, Somerset
County, at more than 500 mph, with a ferocity that disintegrated metal, bone and
flesh. It took more than three months to identify the remains of the 40
passengers and crew, and, by process of elimination, the four hijackers...
But searchers also gathered surprisingly intact mementos of lives lost.
Those items, such as a wedding ring and other jewelry, photos, credit cards,
purses and their contents, shoes, a wallet and currency, are among seven boxes
of identified personal effects salvaged from the site.
-------------------------------- There’s some support for the idea from
other crash sites, then, but of course surviving the initial impact is only one
problem. Others ask how could one passport be recovered so quickly from the
rubble of the trade centre collapses? Fortunately the answer is a simple one. It
wasn’t. Here’s the official account of what happened.
---------------------------------- The passport was recovered by NYPD
Detective Yuk H. Chin from a male passerby in a business suit, about 30 years
old. The passerby left before being identified, while debris was falling from
WTC 2. The tower collapsed shortly afterwards. The detective then gave the
passport to the FBI on 9/11. ----------------------------------- The suggestion here is that the
passport was found amongst the debris on the street.
----------------------------------- On the ground, they saw an odd shape.
Reiss looked closer: It was the nose gear of an airplane..." A part of the
landing gear landed five blocks south ------------------------------------ After the
first crash, the debris, plane parts and body parts were all over the
area. ------------------------------------- This photo is particularly
interesting. Flight 11 Seat Cushion Medium As you can
see, there’s debris on the ground, but not piles of it. A passport would stand
out. Better still is the caption of the photo on its
original page: “On Albany Street, two blocks south of WTC 2, Two men examine
a seat cushion from AA Flight 11. 8:52 a.m”. A cushion, from Flight 11? An
eminently flammable object that was passed through the building, still
recognisable, rather than burned to ashes? Plainly we can’t prove the caption is
correct, although it would explain why two passer-bys have stopped to look (an
ordinary cushion from the building probably isn’t going to attract the same
attention). Meanwhile another story in the New York Times said at least two
items of mail on the 9/11 planes were recovered:
---------------------------------- On Oct. 12, it arrived inside a second
envelope at Mrs. Snyder's modest white house on Main Street here, and the
instant she took it out and saw it, she says, ''chills just went over me.'' It
was singed and crumpled. A chunk was ripped out, giving the bottom of the
envelope she had sent the look of a jagged skyline. Mrs. Snyder's lyrical script
had blurred into the scorched paper. The stamp, depicting a World War II sailor
embracing a woman welcoming him home, was intact. Along with the letter was
a note: ''To whom it may concern. This was found floating around the street in
downtown New York. I am sorry if you suffered any loss in this tragedy.
Sincerely, a friend in New York!'' Since then, Mrs. Snyder, a customer
service representative at a grocery store, has discovered that she has one of
only two pieces of mail known to have been recovered from the planes that
crashed into the World Trade Center. At least one auction house has contacted
her, saying she could sell the letter for tens of thousands of dollars.
One
Letter's Odyssey Helps Mend a Wound ------------------------------- What else was on the street, and why
couldn’t a passport have made it intact? If you’re still not sure,
preferring to go with intution and say survival was impossible, then consider
this story from the Columbia Space Shuttle disaster. The craft broke up on
re-entry, 40 miles about the earth, and debris fell over a wide area. Amongst
this was one of the experiments involving tiny worms.
------------------------------- The worms and moss were in the same
nine-pound locker located in the mid-deck of the space shuttle. The worms were
placed in six canisters, each holding eight petri dishes. The worms, which
are about the size of the tip of a pencil, were part of an experiment testing a
new synthetic nutrient solution. The worms, which have a life cycle of between
seven and 10 days, were four or five generations removed from the original worms
placed on Columbia in January. ------------------------------- Remarkably, not only were the canisters
retrieved, but the worms were still alive (the above link tells you more). Who
would have believed that? Not the scientist in charge of the experiment, who
said in the same story: -------------------------------- ``It's
pretty astonishing to get the possibility of data after all that has happened,''
Sack said. ``We never expected it. We expected a molten mass.''
-------------------------------- In fact if we wanted to start a “Columbia
space shuttle crash never happened” conspiracy site then that would make great
“evidence”, because it goes against what you’d expect. And there’s a great
quote, too. But then maybe intuition doesn’t tell the whole story, and more can
survive explosions than you think. ***************
So are you like OKCSubmariner, christine? Do you think I'm one of Satan's minions? ROTFLOL!
Do you have problems reading English, SKYDRIFTER? Is that the real reason you are no longer allowed to fly commercial jets?
So why high-frequency, Diana?
Well, 99.9% of all talking anuses are both. Ergo, you are a Jew.
Have you "on more than one occasion" seen the results of nukes in structures? ROTFLOL!
No it isn't, christine. 10 seconds is free fall. Even wacko conspiracy websites say that. Now when are you going to give up on this nonsense? Or will you let it be the downfall of whatever is left of 4um's credibility?
Jethro, are you typical of the posters here at Freedom4um?
Why don't you commission Johns Hopkins University to do
a poll for you and find out? Seriously, you aren't worth serious discussion.
You condone a war built on lies, nation building, and the use of our military
to enforce UN resolutions, provided they aren’t aimed at Israel. As if this
weren't enough, you vote for Rs who time and time again have betrayed this
nation. So no, you deserve no civility. Dolts like you are for mocking.
So Jethro, are you typical of the posters here at Freedom4um?
shalom fish breath. are all republicans as obnoxious as you? if so, i don't think i want them in office in 2008.
"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006
See #113.
Now, how is anyone going to get a 767 to fly that fast? Maybe 400 knots; not 600. There's the problem with your usual delivery of lies, BAC! OH, but you are so persistent in your lies!
nah, you just defend them
Well said!
So Jethro, are you typical of the posters here at Freedom4um?
So tell us, ex-pilot. Do you know the difference between miles per hour and knots? Apparently not... Or you can't read. Either would be good reason not to put you in the pilot's seat.
EX-Queeze me! (ASSHOLE) ... maybe 400 knots, not 521.386 knots.
We know you really meant 600 Knots. You just typed 600 miles-per-hour out of habit.
Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin
You don't like us, BAC - get the fuck out!
Well, you know what they say ... "boys will be girls" !
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
ROTFLOL! while you can, succubus, because you sure won't be when your ass is burning in Hell.
I think chooser's maniacal campaign against the alternate 911 theories are good evidence of his job (irrational nonetheless).
Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.
Yeah.
Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.
LOL, are you a drama queen in real life, too?
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
lol
there isn't an obvious agenda now, is there?
The fate of the universe hangs on Rove's testimony.
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
That's funny! Calling "it" a succubus is a double whammy because they take the forms of human females but are demons. I bet ol' BeAFluffer wishes "he" could take a slide on Jeff Gannon just like all of "his" heroes have! LMAO! In fact, Fluff borrows on the same Gannon theme over and over, accusing US of not being in touch with reality! Damn, Nostalgia sure nailed it!
the intense energy would instantly vaporize molecules, tearing them to pieces and utterly obliterating them, but you already know that.
Even I know that. You really think just because a person posts here, they must be stupid. Your attitude regarding that is a good example of what will bring down the neocons in the end.
This thread somehow got thrown off again, you have to scroll like crazy to read it now, at least I do and I'm probably not the only one.
hmmmm. i deleted the offending oversized images earlier today and it's fine for me now.
10 seconds is free fall. Even wacko conspiracy websites say that. Now when are you going to give up on this nonsense? Or will you let it be the downfall of whatever is left of 4um's credibility? Ten seconds is a vacuum figure, BAC - you know that. Do you really want to split hairs on that magnitude? You won't like the price you pay, for that - asshole! If you don't like Christine and this forum - including its credibility, there's a really quick solution for that. You'd better appreciate that on your best day that you're here on thin ice, and with the consensus of those such as myself who have elected to tolerate you. Than can change. Pay really close attention, shithead! Start by being a lot more of a gentleman to the ladies - all of them! Start by spelling Christine's name with a capital "C."
Why are you posting this jumble of garbled, stream of consciousness shit to me? Do you expect me to wade through your moronic, rambling, disfunctional rants? Clean it up the cut and past mess, think about what you are trying to say, focus on producing a coherent train of thought and then try again.
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Chosen rarely response to me...but if I have to scroll through a post, there's a zeroes chance I'll actually read it. I admire his dedication to his superiors, but to be an effective shill, being brief with links is the only way to sway...
This is basically your MO isn't it. Mindless Ad
hominem attacks, childish insults and pointless disruption.
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#102. To: Morgana le Fay, ALL (#79)
why do you jewish guys eat that horrible rancid raw fish? its disgusting.
#103. To: Esso, ALL (#80)
It was a ten second freefall...
#104. To: christine, ALL (#84)
i believe in righteous wrath.
#105. To: ..., kiki, ALL (#86)
the story of finding the highjacker's passport on the street
shortly after impact.
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:tI2PQRqfJiIJ:www.msnbc.com/local/MYOC/M324557.asp
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20011230flight931230p3.asp
Page 40
http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_statements/911_TerrTrav_Ch2.pdf
Other accounts
certainly suggest some parts of the plane were left outside the building.
Page 20, “102 Minutes”
Jim
Dwyer and Kevin Flynn
http://zibili.com/sept11/91103.htm
(Download the full-size
version by clicking here).![](http://www.911myths.com/Flight_11_Seat_Cushion_Large.jpg")
New York Times
December 20, 2001
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/sts107_worms_030501.html
#106. To: christine, ALL (#89)
the devil makes him do it.
#107. To: SKYDRIFTER, ALL (#91)
"The first, of course, was that no study of the impact of a 600-mile-an-hour plane ever existed." ... snip ...
Why BAC, are you claiming the aircraft were doing 600 knots?
#108. To: Diana, ALL (#92)
You're just trying to make fun of me, thinking I don't know what high frequency means.
#109. To: BeAChooser (#102)
Why is it you think I'm jewish ... or a guy?
#110. To: innieway, ALL (#99)
I've often wondered about the possibility of "suitcase" nukes... That would release a tremendous amount of heat (possibly accounting for 'molten metal' found over a month later in the basement areas) and energy - thereby making it less necessary for precision placement to do a tremendous amount of damage.
#111. To: christine, ALL (#101)
15 seconds
That's right, christine. Which is not free fall.
it is for a 110 story building
#112. To: Jethro Tull, ALL (#109)
Well, 99.9% of all talking anuses are both. Ergo, you are a Jew.
#113. To: BeAChooser (#112)
Jethro, are you typical of the posters here at Freedom4um?
#114. To: Jethro Tull, ALL (#113)
#115. To: fish breath (#102)
#116. To: BeAChooser (#114)
#117. To: beachooser, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#107)
"The first, of course, was that no study of the impact of a 600-mile-an-hour plane ever existed." ...
#118. To: BeAChooser (#106)
Do you think I'm one of Satan's minions?
#119. To: Jethro Tull (#113)
Seriously, you aren't worth serious discussion. You condone a war built on lies, nation building, and the use of our military to enforce UN resolutions, provided they aren’t aimed at Israel. As if this weren't enough, you vote for Rs who time and time again have betrayed this nation. So no, you deserve no civility. Dolts like you are for mocking.
#120. To: Jethro Tull, ALL (#116)
#121. To: SKYDRIFTER, ALL (#117)
"600-mile-an-hour"
Now, how is anyone going to get a 767 to fly that fast? Maybe 400 knots; not 600.
#122. To: beachooser, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#121)
So tell us, ex-pilot. Do you know the difference between miles per hour and knots?
#123. To: Fish Breath (#121)
"600-mile-an-hour"
#124. To: beachooser, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#120)
So Jethro, are you typical of the posters here at Freedom4um?
#125. To: christine (#98)
they're the party of perverted boy bonkers!
#126. To: BeAChooser, kiki, christine, OKCSubmariner, ALL (#106)
Do you think I'm one of Satan's minions?
#127. To: ..., christine (#88)
(Edited)
I think chooser's maniacal campaign against the alternate 911 theories are good evidence of his irrationality.
#128. To: BeAChooser (#106)
Do you think I'm one of Satan's minions?
#129. To: BeAChooser (#111)
Or will you let it be the downfall of whatever is left of 4um's credibility?
#130. To: Nostalgia (#126)
succubus
#131. To: Dakmar, wbales (#129)
#132. To: christine (#131)
(Edited)
#133. To: Nostalgia, christine, Zipporah, rowdee, robin, Diana, Jethro Tull, Peetie Wheatstraw, lodwick (#126)
ROTFLOL! while you can, succubus, because you sure won't be when your ass is burning in Hell.
#134. To: BeAChooser (#108)
why high-frequency
#135. To: BeAChooser, SKYDRIFTER (#121)
So tell us, ex-pilot. Do you know the difference between miles per hour and knots?
#136. To: All, christine (#135)
#137. To: Diana (#136)
#138. To: beachooser, Minerva, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#111)
No it isn't, christine.
#139. To: BeAChooser (#105)
#140. To: ... (#139)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#141. To: BeAChooser, Christine (#107)
Do you have problems reading English, SKYDRIFTER?
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