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Title: Breaking my silence on 9/11 Truth
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Published: Mar 30, 2007
Author: John Kusumi
Post Date: 2007-03-30 06:54:01 by Kamala
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Original Content at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_john_kus_070328_breaking_my_silence_.htm


March 28, 2007

Breaking my silence on 9/11 Truth

By John Kusumi

Initially I preferred to keep silent about the 9/11 Truth Movement, to not be diverted from my issue. I've been associated with the China Support Network, being its founder, and in recent years, I give my speeches in that vein exclusively. That means, I have a cause and I don't need a spare cause, nor a soapbox, nor a reason to be known in the public discourse, where I've contributed since 1980. My 9/11 article is written, not oral; in any public appearance, I remain on the China issue. The article is volunteered and not sponsored; I simply think it fair to have the question, "What happened on 9/11?", and to have the indicated investigation that is genuine and impartial, rather than a whitewash. Read on, to where I suggest a role for Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly.

Recently, Rosie O'Donnell raised the issue of 9/11 Truth, questioning how one or more of the buildings fell in New York City on September 11, 2001. Also, actor Charlie Sheen has come out with his own questions and concerns about what happened that day, and we've learned that he will narrate an updated version of Loose Change, a documentary that questions the official story of 9/11. This led to mentions on television by Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck, top conservative commentators who seem to have replaced George Will and Bob Novak. (Note to youngsters: The latter were leading conservative commentators in the post-Watergate period. What's Watergate? Check Wikipedia.)

I cannot be counted a fanatic on the issue of 9/11 truth. I do my share of writing, publishing, and speaking; and, but for one related blog post, this is my first article on the subject. The standard that I would like to uphold is truth, period -- something that all should care about, and that journalists in particular should be finicky to discern and record accurately. The field of journalism at least bills itself to be concerned about non-fiction and a first draft of history. I believe that non-fiction and truth are synonyms, and that to sweat these details ought to be right up the alley of U.S. journalists.

Imagine if you will a bumper sticker that says: "Pearl Harbor: Roosevelt Knew." In the 1940s, there were many very staunch, patriotic citizens, who likely had full faith in their President Roosevelt (FDR) and for whom our hypothetical bumper sticker may hurt, or sting deeply. The sticker could be rejected on the simple basis that it is alien to the world view, held by those observers, of FDR as an upright and above-board U.S. President. More recent research, however, has convinced many historians that the sticker is indeed accurate. I believe that even our mainstream commentators have allowed the same, so that we now have an accepted view of history, to wit that Roosevelt had foreknowledge of the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor. If so, then the truth behind Pearl Harbor becomes LIHOP -- Let It Happen On Purpose.

The above paragraph does NOT prove anything about 9/11. If people make bumper stickers saying, "9/11: Bush Knew," then they still must make their case. For those who assert provocatively, there is an onus or a burden of proof. Words are not "more true" on a bumper sticker, and "less true" elsewhere. The standard of proof is not in the placement of the words. However, I believe and would stand behind a bumper sticker that said: "Tiananmen Square: Bush Knew." (That refers to the elder President Bush, who gave a nod and a wink to Chinese leaders before their troops went to Tiananmen Square. Chinese leaders MIHOP -- Made It Happen On Purpose.)

For those who are toying with the possibilities, alternate explanations for 9/11 include (a.) "we were surprised -- they got one by us (totally innocent);" (b.) "we were warned, but we failed to connect the dots (totally incompetent);" (c.) LIHOP (partial inside job, partially sinister); and (d.) MIHOP (an inside job, totally sinister). The official explanation has already migrated, since the early days, from (a.) to (b.). Perhaps one reason why I've avoided 9/11 Truth as a topic is due to its parallel with rejecting the "Roosevelt knew of Pearl Harbor" thought, as above. Explanations (c.) and (d.) for 9/11 entail the culpability of someone in our own government. It is alien to the world view that the U.S. Government protects Americans. In this case, Americans were harmed by perpetrators who were clearly evil, and it is harsh -- indeed anguishing -- to contemplate the case if it were that the hand of evil was partly domestic. Culpability within our own government would make 9/11 the crime of the century.

I will not take up the job of re-iterating the case that's been made by the 9/11 Truth Movement. But, increasing numbers of questions have been uncovered, and the awareness of prior warnings, given to the U.S. government in advance, has increased. The number of warnings reported has risen since the early days -- the immediate aftermath of 9/11. This means that we know more now, than previously. For brevity, I'd care to focus on three points that I'll call, "Tip-off #1, Tip-off #2, and The Nub Of The Matter."

To me, Tip-off #1 is a point that I earlier blogged: "It seems ridiculously implausible that the FBI tracked down 19 mug shots of 19 hijackers, and got that to the news media the same day as the attacks! Again, without inside knowledge, but with general awareness of the working world, how it goes, and what's plausible -- I look at that, and I say to myself, 'prepared slide.'" Each airplane had more than five passengers. Full investigation took less than a day, and the FBI knew precisely who among the passengers was "in" and "out" of the conspiracy. This was reported with certitude the same day, and the official slide with the 19 men remains an enduring memory, seared in there without additions or deletions. (Where we might have expected a developing story, the slide did not change, although some of the hijackers were reported to be alive and well, still living in the Middle East.) The mere fact that the FBI had those 19 mug shots "tips off" their prior familiarity with these men.

Tip-off #2 is a recent point. In late February, 2007, the 9/11 Truth Movement released BBC video from 9/11, in which the BBC reported that building seven had collapsed IN ADVANCE. That is to say that the building was still standing while the BBC reported the demise of the building. The timing of their story was off. Half an hour later, the building came down and "got on the page." It seems that Aaron Brown over at CNN made a similar report, that the building was toast before it was in fact toast. 9/11 was certainly a day of "on the ground" events happening. But Tip-offs #1 and #2 each strongly suggest that 9/11 was also a day of news being spoonfed by the media. The early report of building seven collapsing (at BBC and CNN) was not from eyewitnesses on the ground. The faulty information had to come from somewhere (A prepared plan? A press release?) other than eyeballs on the scene. Where did the media get this information, and who was spoonfeeding it to them?

Let's move to the nub of the matter. Many in the 9/11 Truth Movement are screaming that controlled demolition brought the buildings down. The original designs and plans for the World Trade Center were meant to withstand a jetliner impact, although we can admit that the designs probably contemplated earlier planes and less jet fuel. Hence, I believe that the towers natively would have withstood impact from a circa 1970 Boeing 737, and that the real difference in the case of 9/11 was "all that jet fuel." The official explanation of 9/11 hinges on the idea that "all that jet fuel" brought the towers down. (And, in my view, the official explanation cannot explain the fall of building seven, which did not even have an airplane impact.)

What's true is this: jet fuel has a particular temperature at which it burns, and steel has a particular temperature at which it melts. These are empirically measurable, so there need not be different melting points for liberals, conservatives, mainstreamers, and "loony wack job internet conspiracy theorists." It is America's chronically-lame news media that is so quick to be so judgmental -- or at least, it was Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck who, on their shows, seemed to circle the wagons for "mainstream thinking" -- at the expense of others, who were the recipients for name-calling and ad hominem attacks. (Note to youngsters: Ad hominem or "to the man" attacks never prove anything. If person A says that "X is true," and then person B says "Yah well, A is a Communist," that does not prove that X is false. X will be true or false, independently of whether A is a Communist. Even Communists can say true things --so really, personal details about A are irrelevant to X.)

In their recent televised statements, O'Reilly and Beck "took sides," fulfilling their (God-given? Bush-given?) roles as defenders of "official truth." And, it seems to me, this taking of sides was in the absence of kicking the tires or full investigation. (An entire separate article could be made with the reservations about the 9/11 Commission.) If we actually cared to get to the bottom of 9/11, I believe that we would measure the temperature of burning jet fuel, and the melting point of structural steel. I've never done it personally, so perhaps I could still join Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck -- I do not know the outcome of the test that I propose. (Are there published specifications that state these two temperatures? Yes, but the 9/11 Truth Movement is where arguments have broken out over empirical data. One side or the other might warn me against trusting a high school chemistry book, so I am now too skeptical for any approach that cannot "show me." It remains true, for me, that seeing is believing.)

I want to see a test in which they try to melt steel with jet fuel. While I personally lack a handy supply of either, there are 50 State Governors who could order their National Guard to undertake this test (and, if Fox and CNN want to save their credibility, they could fund this test). A vat of jet fuel should be prepared, perhaps sunken into the ground as in a foundation or a back yard swimming pool. A steel girder meeting the same specifications as WTC columns should be placed across this vat. I don't require a re-creation of the towers; just one girder. For good measure, one could place a heavy weight like a wrecking ball atop the girder. Then simply ignite the vat and let the jet fuel burn. Show me that jet fuel can melt steel. Here, I have devolved the case to a test of an empirical nature with a boolean outcome: the test either will, or will not, melt the steel. If it will, then I will be more ready to believe the official story. If it will not, then "Houston, we have a problem," and a full explanation of 9/11 must then involve more effort to bring down the towers; more than merely the thought of letting the jet fuel burn to do its thing.

What's notable about America's news media has been its LACK of inquiry, curiosity, and skepticism. As one of the biggest atrocities against Americans on our own soil, 9/11 should logically be the MOST deserving of investigation, skepticism, and critical inquiry. O'Reilly and Beck share that "oh so certain" quality of the suave, sophisticated media announcers who read the news from Easy Street, while truth-seekers are derided for being "out of the mainstream." How sure are they, really? How will they react to my proposal of this test? Are they just smoothies who are putting one past the public? This test could tell us the answer, and for one more requirement: --I want it to be Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck who presses the button to ignite the jet fuel. Either the girder, or their credibility, will become toast.

Authors Website: http://www.kusumi.com

Authors Bio: John Kusumi, in 1984, was the independent "18-year-old" for U.S. President. Presidential politics has no earlier introduction of "the politics of practical idealism," which Kusumi championed with his "People Are Important" bumper stickers. He continues to work on a manuscript, 'Genocidal Correctness' to define and debunk "the reservation" of "mainstream thinking." See http://Kusumi.com. Subscribe to *9-11*

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#124. To: beachooser, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#120)


So Jethro, are you typical of the posters here at Freedom4um?

You don't like us, BAC - get the fuck out!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-03-31   17:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: christine (#98)

they're the party of perverted boy bonkers!

Well, you know what they say ... "boys will be girls" !

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

noone222  posted on  2007-03-31   20:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: BeAChooser, kiki, christine, OKCSubmariner, ALL (#106)

Do you think I'm one of Satan's minions?

ROTFLOL! while you can, succubus, because you sure won't be when your ass is burning in Hell.

Nostalgia  posted on  2007-03-31   20:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: ..., christine (#88) (Edited)

I think chooser's maniacal campaign against the alternate 911 theories are good evidence of his irrationality.

I think chooser's maniacal campaign against the alternate 911 theories are good evidence of his job (irrational nonetheless).

Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.

wbales  posted on  2007-03-31   21:50:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: BeAChooser (#106)

Do you think I'm one of Satan's minions?

Yeah.

Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.

wbales  posted on  2007-03-31   21:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: BeAChooser (#111)

Or will you let it be the downfall of whatever is left of 4um's credibility?

LOL, are you a drama queen in real life, too?

"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar

Dakmar  posted on  2007-03-31   23:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Nostalgia (#126)

succubus

lol

christine  posted on  2007-03-31   23:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Dakmar, wbales (#129)

there isn't an obvious agenda now, is there?

christine  posted on  2007-03-31   23:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: christine (#131) (Edited)

The fate of the universe hangs on Rove's testimony.

"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar

Dakmar  posted on  2007-03-31   23:57:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Nostalgia, christine, Zipporah, rowdee, robin, Diana, Jethro Tull, Peetie Wheatstraw, lodwick (#126)

ROTFLOL! while you can, succubus, because you sure won't be when your ass is burning in Hell.

That's funny!

Calling "it" a succubus is a double whammy because they take the forms of human females but are demons.

I bet ol' BeAFluffer wishes "he" could take a slide on Jeff Gannon just like all of "his" heroes have!

LMAO!

In fact, Fluff borrows on the same Gannon theme over and over, accusing US of not being in touch with reality!

Damn, Nostalgia sure nailed it!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-04-01   0:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: BeAChooser (#108)

why high-frequency

the intense energy would instantly vaporize molecules, tearing them to pieces and utterly obliterating them, but you already know that.

Diana  posted on  2007-04-01   0:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: BeAChooser, SKYDRIFTER (#121)

So tell us, ex-pilot. Do you know the difference between miles per hour and knots?

Even I know that.

You really think just because a person posts here, they must be stupid. Your attitude regarding that is a good example of what will bring down the neocons in the end.

Diana  posted on  2007-04-01   0:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: All, christine (#135)

This thread somehow got thrown off again, you have to scroll like crazy to read it now, at least I do and I'm probably not the only one.

Diana  posted on  2007-04-01   0:53:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Diana (#136)

hmmmm. i deleted the offending oversized images earlier today and it's fine for me now.

christine  posted on  2007-04-01   0:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: beachooser, Minerva, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#111)

No it isn't, christine.

10 seconds is free fall.

Even wacko conspiracy websites say that.

Now when are you going to give up on this nonsense?

Or will you let it be the downfall of whatever is left of 4um's credibility?

Ten seconds is a vacuum figure, BAC - you know that.

Do you really want to split hairs on that magnitude? You won't like the price you pay, for that - asshole!

If you don't like Christine and this forum - including its credibility, there's a really quick solution for that.

You'd better appreciate that on your best day that you're here on thin ice, and with the consensus of those such as myself who have elected to tolerate you. Than can change.

Pay really close attention, shithead! Start by being a lot more of a gentleman to the ladies - all of them! Start by spelling Christine's name with a capital "C."


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-01   1:10:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: BeAChooser (#105)

Why are you posting this jumble of garbled, stream of consciousness shit to me? Do you expect me to wade through your moronic, rambling, disfunctional rants?

Clean it up the cut and past mess, think about what you are trying to say, focus on producing a coherent train of thought and then try again.

.

...  posted on  2007-04-01   1:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: ... (#139)

Chosen rarely response to me...but if I have to scroll through a post, there's a zeroes chance I'll actually read it.

I admire his dedication to his superiors, but to be an effective shill, being brief with links is the only way to sway...

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-04-01   1:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: BeAChooser, Christine (#107)

Do you have problems reading English, SKYDRIFTER?

This is basically your MO isn't it.

Mindless Ad hominem attacks, childish insults and pointless disruption.

.

...  posted on  2007-04-01   2:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: kiki, Christine (#118)

Do you think I'm one of Satan's minions?

nah, you just defend them

Which MAKES him one of them...

Smirk, Cheney, Rummy, Libbey, Condy, Feith, Zakheim, Wolfowitz, the whole bunch are liars... EACH of them has been CAUGHT in lies...

THESE are the people Looser defends...

WHAT does Scripture have to say about the matter?
In the words of the Messiah in John 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Looser admitted in some thread some time back (tried to find it to link to it, but it was going to take too long) that "I know they lie sometimes, but sometimes it's for my own good". That isn't an EXACT quote, but it's close.

He intrinsically knows something is wrong with 9/11 - there are too many questions he WON'T answer (like the NORAD stand-down) and that this evidence leads to an inside job. YET, he champions their cause. He supports the KNOWN liars and murderers. He does the lusts of them, and they do the lusts of their father - SATAN.... THUS, he is also a child of SATAN...

Christine is right - he IS evil. I've gone so far as to call him a satan worshiper, and stand by it - based upon Scriptural teachings.

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-04-01   8:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: innieway (#142) (Edited)

Without getting scriptural, let me just say "fuck that punk" !

I bozo'd that idiot a long time ago and wonder why others haven't ???

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

noone222  posted on  2007-04-01   8:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Nostalgia (#126)

ROTFLOL! while you can, succubus, because you sure won't be when your ass is burning in Hell.

HAHAHAHA

You're right!

You know, he's GOT to have some of the cleanest floors in the world, as much as he likes rolling around on them. Normal folks prefer to use mops...

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-04-01   8:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: noone222 (#143)

Without getting scriptural, let me just say "fuck that punk" !

Well said, as usual...

Apparently a lot have. I don't know WHY I haven't. In fact I haven't bozo'd anybody - not even Destro or Redheadedstranger (or Tinfoil Wonderballs, or Happyballs, or ponchy or whatever he was going by last).

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-04-01   8:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: innieway (#145)

I bozo'd the jerk because the posts produced were intellectually insulting, but now I see the posts reproduced by others, that I haven't bozo'd, over and over effectually circumventing the bozo concept.

Guess I'm screwed ! Ha !!! [Destro is bozo'd as well].

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

noone222  posted on  2007-04-01   8:49:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: HOUNDDAWG, ALL (#133)

I bet ol' BeAFluffer wishes "he" could take a slide on Jeff Gannon just like all of "his" heroes have!

So Hounddawg, are you typical of the posters here at Freedom4um?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-01   17:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Diana, SKYDRIFTER, ALL (#135)

"So tell us, ex-pilot. Do you know the difference between miles per hour and knots?"

Even I know that.

So why did SKYDRIFTER keep saying 600 knots when I'd posted about 600 miles per hour over and over?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-01   17:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: innieway, ALL (#142)

He intrinsically knows something is wrong with 9/11

You will never find the truth if the foundation of your search is filled with lies.

You can't overlook the lies and honestly claim you are seeking the truth.

All that proves is that you have an agenda where truth really doesn't matter.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-01   17:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: noone222, ALL (#143)

I bozo'd that idiot a long time ago and wonder why others haven't ???

Because ultimately you can't afford to ignore someone who is successfully pointing out in thread after thread the lies that you folks insist on believing. You will not find truth or God on a foundation of misinformation and lies.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-01   17:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: christine (#137)

i deleted the offending oversized images earlier today and it's fine for me now.

Now it's working fine for me.

Diana  posted on  2007-04-01   18:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: beachooser, Minerva, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#148)

Now, how is anyone going to get a 767 to fly that fast? Maybe 400 knots; not 600.

In your world of logic, BAC,I didn't post 600 KNOTS.

However, as a pragmatic matter I'm oriented to thinking in knots, when it comes to that range of figures.

So, what is your response to the allegation of 521.386 knots, versus 400 knots, asshole!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-01   20:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: innieway (#145)

Apparently a lot have. I don't know WHY I haven't. In fact I haven't bozo'd anybody - not even Destro or Redheadedstranger (or Tinfoil Wonderballs, or Happyballs, or ponchy or whatever he was going by last).

Shame on you - get with the program - save your time and sanity.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-01   21:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Fish Breath (#148)

So why did SKYDRIFTER keep saying 600 knots when I'd posted about 600 miles per hour over and over?

Because we know you meant 600 knots when you said 600 mile per hour.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-04-01   22:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: fish breath (#150)

You will not find truth or God on a foundation of misinformation and lies.

shalom fish breath. does this mean you are going to stop watching fox news? i hope so.

"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-04-01   22:36:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: BeAChooser (#150)

You will not find truth or God on a foundation of misinformation and lies.

but what about saddams wmd? you found them in a foundation of misinformation and lies.

"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-04-01   22:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Morgana le Fay (#156)

but what about saddams wmd? you found them in a foundation of misinformation and lies.

But they're not there anymore. Fish Breath says they got moved to Syria after he found them.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-04-01   22:47:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Minerva (#157)

But they're not there anymore. Fish Breath says they got moved to Syria after he found them.

you believe fish breath?

"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-04-01   22:48:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: Morgana le Fay (#158)

you believe fish breath?

Fish Breath will cyberbully you for that.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-04-01   22:57:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Minerva (#159)

Fish Breath will cyberbully you for that.

yawn.

"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-04-01   23:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: Morgana le Fay (#160)

Fish Breath is off for Passover. We shouldn't mess with him until it is over.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-04-02   11:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Morgana le Fay (#156)

but what about saddams wmd? you found them in a foundation of misinformation and lies.

good one, Morgana. ;)

christine  posted on  2007-04-02   11:43:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: BeAChooser (#102)

Just curious.

Why is it you think I'm jewish ... or a guy?

you told some people over on fr that you were. these people told me. i know it's true. i am surprised that you would lie about it after you told so many people.

shalom fish breath.

"And this is the end of my brilliant career on the 4um..." -- ponchy 12/20/2006

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-04-03   1:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Morgana le Fay (#163)

Fish breath said:

Just curious.

Why is it you think I'm jewish ... or a guy?

Wasn't it Jewish ... or a "gay" ???

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

noone222  posted on  2007-04-03   7:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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