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Title: The 9/11 WTC Collapses: Questions the Media Won't Address
Source: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
URL Source: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/9-11_wtc_media.html
Published: Apr 2, 2007
Author: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2007-04-02 22:56:57 by robin
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The 9/11 WTC Collapses:
Questions the Media Won't Address

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#1. To: robin, ALL (#0)

Is it pure coincidence that FEMA was in New York on September 10?

The assertion that Kenney was in NYC on September 10th is false.

http://www.devvy.com/foia-fema_20020824.html "One thing is for certain: There is zip proof that a Mr. Tom Kennedy was deployed by FEMA or an outside company to NYC on September 10, 2001."

http://www.devvy.com/foia_20021128.html "At this time I am fully satisfied that Mr. Kenney, an outside contractor was not deployed until the afternoon of September 11, 2001. If I had any doubts left, I would file another FOIA to the contracting officer at FEMA who handles MATF-1 because it's the truth I seek when I file FOIAs, and in this case, I believe it's been uncovered."

http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/fema.htm "Dan Rather interviewed Mr. Kenney on the evening of Thursday, September 13, not Wednesday, September 12. Mr. Kenney thus informed Dan Rather that the task force arrived late in the evening of September 11 (a day he mistakenly identified as Monday rather than Tuesday), that they went into action on the morning of September 12 (a day he mistakenly identified as Tuesday rather than Wednesday), and that they did not have an opportunity to first work the entire WTC site until September 13 (i.e., "today," the day of the interview)."

http://www.sweetliberty.org/audio/ "On September 13th, Dan Rather of CBS News conducted an interview with Tom Kennedy of FEMA's National Urban Search and Rescue Team. The interview definitely occurred on Thursday, September 13th. On the Sweet Liberty broadcast that night I mentioned it, having received a phone call from a listener just after she heard it on CBS. I reviewed the tape to confirm."

http://www2.bostonherald.com/lifestyle/lifestyle_trends/csid09052002.htm "the Herald called the Kenney home on Cape Cod and spoke to Kenney's wife, who said that her husband did go to New York on Sept. 11, not Sept. 10. She explained that he was under extreme stress when Rather interviewed him, and added wryly that it was typical of her husband to confuse dates."

The bottom line is this:

1) The interview took place at night after what must have been 3 of the longest days of Kenney's life, where he worked long backbreaking hours and saw horrifying things that few of us can imagine. Isn't it more likely he just lost track of the day of the week?

2) Kenney's wife was later interviewed and said her husband left on the 11th and that Tom mixes up the days of the week all the time.

3) The interview took place on the 13th and not the 12th, as every conspiracy website untruthfully claims, and since Kenny only mentioned having been there 3 days, the logical conclusion is that the first day was the 11th.

4) There are photos of the 60+ person FEMA team leaving Massachusetts and arriving in NYC and deploying on what is clearly the morning of the crash,

5) There is not ONE other shred of evidence supporting this nonsensical accusation ... not one receipt for food or gas or lodging or beer, not one witness to ANY of the FEMA team members traveling to or being in NYC, not one telephone call log, ... NOTHING.

6) Not one journalist has come forward with ANYTHING suggesting this, even though doing so would virtually guarantee fame and acclaim in the news media world.

Yet robin persists in spreading this rumor, just like she persists in spreading the false claim that the WTC towers collapsed in 10 seconds.

How was it known that the World Trade Center was going to collapse?

Tilting of the towers and an inward bowing of the perimeter shell on one side of the towers was observed well ahead of the collapse.

Where were the 800°C infernos in the buildings?

Kevin Ryan who you source as an *expert* is a water treatment expert and completely wrong about many facts in his letter. For instance, he claims the institutes preliminary reports suggest the WTC's supports were probably exposed to fires no hotter than 500 degrees. This is FALSE. What the reports say is that samples that were tested showed a maximum temperature of less than 500 agrees. BUT, the testing method could not detect higher temperatures because it required that paint still be on the steel. Furthermore, the peak temperature of the samples tested agrees with what the fire code models say the peak temperatures would have been in the regions of the towers the samples came from. In other regions, however, the fire models say the peak temperatures were much much higher. And that's just one example of Ryan's dishonesty or lack of understanding. And this has been pointed out over and over at 4um yet robin continues to repeat this nonsense just like she continues to repeat the false claim that the towers collapsed in 10 seconds.

Larry Silverstein said of WTC 7 "the smartest thing to do is pull it" (i.e. demolish it), and all evidence points to this occurring.

This is a statement out of context. Silverstein was clearly talking about pulling the firefighting effort from around the structure and the expression "pull it" does not mean demolish with explosives (that's according to demolition experts). Why doesn't robin understand this even though its been pointed out numerous times?

Why was the investigation into the WTC collapses an underfunded farce?

Why do folks like robin continue to pretend like the FEMA investigation was the only investigation of the WTC collapses. FEMA spent 600,000. NIST spent over 30 MILLION. Is that underfunded?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-02   23:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: beachooser, Minerva, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#1)

Mr. Tom Kennedy .....

No mention of Kenney?

The underlying point is that FEMA was pre-deployed for FEMA - in a safe location. There's the indicator of internal treason!

BAC, you asshole, you just can't keep from deceiving to the max.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-03   0:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BeAChooser (#1)

thank you for that brilliant post. It had been several days since I saw one of your world-famous spams. I read everything you write. You are a genius. I love you. Keep up the good work. I was losing faith in humanity, such a drought without you participating. Thank-you.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-04-03   0:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: SKYDRIFTER (#2)

you just can't keep from deceiving to the max.

Evil Is As Evil Does

christine  posted on  2007-04-03   0:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: SKYDRIFTER, robin (#2)

NIST had a total of 236 samples of steel. 136 were distinct samples, many from the fire zones. 160 were areas mapped and 170 areas examined. NIST called the samples adequate.

NIST also used conventional microscopic fractographic metallographic studies of coarsening of carbide phases of thermal excursions. No spheoidization was observed. No steel sample saw temps higher than around 487F.

Tweeked computer models and trumped up workstation model burn tests are nothing more than voodoo witchcraft.

"IT" is a LIAR."IT" is a pure EVIL enity. One should never engage "IT" directly."IT" will burn your soul.

Remember in "The Exorcist" when the older priest tells the younger priest not to engage or listen to the devil.

"IT" will use lies, deception, trickery and turn your words around against oneself to make you doubt the truth and rightousness.

Same principle here. Beware.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-04-04   7:16:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Kamala (#5)

Remember in "The Exorcist" when the older priest tells the younger priest not to engage or listen to the devil.

Good advice.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-04-04   8:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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