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Title: A Shooter Looks At The Shot Heard ‘Round The World
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Published: Apr 4, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-04-04 19:54:39 by tom007
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A Shooter Looks At The Shot Heard ‘Round The World Recently I finished reading the definitive book (which I highly recommend) on the obviously, government-sanctioned, JFK assassination. Written from the unique perspective of a professional shooter, "Kill Zone: A Sniper Looks at Dealey Plaza," not only demolishes all the arguments of lone-assassin proponents, but examines the myriad reasons why Kennedy was killed. “The reason I knew that Oswald could not have done it, was because I could not have done it,” said former US Marine sniper, Craig Roberts. Credited with numerous kills while serving in Vietnam , Roberts turned an objective eye on the shot heard ‘round the world. After he visited Dealey Plaza, after viewing the so-called “sniper’s lair,” on the sixth floor of the book depository, and after staring at the large oak tree overspreading much of Elm Street, Roberts said, “I walked away from the window in disgust. I had seen all I needed to know that Oswald could not have been the lone shooter.” But Roberts, a retired police investigator, wanted to know what did happen. Not content to dismiss the improbable feat, he delved into the crime from every angle. “First, I analyzed the scene as a sniper . . . I looked at the engagement angles. It was entirely wrong…Here, from what I could see, three problems arose that would influence my shots. First, the target was moving away at a drastic angle to the right from the window, meaning that I would have to position my body to compete with the wall and a set of vertical water pipes . . . This would be extremely difficult for a right-handed shooter. Second, I would have to be ready to fire exactly when the target emerged past some tree branches that obscured the kill zone. Finally, I would have to deal with two factors at the same time; the curve of the street, and the high-to-low angle formula—a law of physics Oswald would not have known.” Not content with his own critical appraisal, Roberts turned to another, equally knowledgeable shooter. “According to my friend, Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, the former senior instructor for the US Marine Corps Sniper Instructor School at Quantico, Virginia, it could not be done as described by the FBI investigators.” “Let me tell you what we did at Quantico,” Hathcock recalls. “We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target, the time limit, the obstacles, everything. I don’t know how many times we tried it, but we couldn’t duplicate what the Warren Commission said Oswald did. Now if I can’t do it, how in the world could a guy who was a non-qual on the rifle range and later only qualified 'marksman' do it?” Of course, sergeant Carlos Hathcock was only the most famous American military sniper in history, credited with a confirmed 93 kills. But apologists for a lone assassin, who continue to enjoy mainstream media sponsorship 40 years later, continue to argue that an average shooter like Oswald, using a decrepit, war surplus weapon, could have killed Kennedy. Case closed. Count The Bullets: Blow Away All Arguments But suppose we took a moment to examine the OBJECTS STRUCK rather than focus on the sound of gunfire witnesses claimed to have heard. Anyone who has seen the original film version of “The Day of The Jackal” realizes that a sniper rifle equipped with a silencer and flash suppressor may be virtually soundless. 1. The first shot strikes the street, sending sparks behind Kennedy's car. Almost unanimous agreement that this first shot--unbelievably--misses everything. Was this Oswald's first and only diversionary shot from the sniper's lair? 2. A second shot strikes a curb near the railroad overpass, wounding bystander James Tague on the cheek. Another shot reportedly gouges a hole in a curb along the north side of Elm, which is hastily patched in an effort to cover the evidence. (Some of these snipers seem to be either rank amateurs or reluctant assassins). 3. A third shot strikes a manhole cover and lodges in the grass. A group of policemen safeguard the site and an unidentified man removes the projectile and pockets it. A report of the find is recorded in newspaper accounts the following day and then denied by government officials. 4. A fourth shot strikes JFK in the back, well below the collar, four inches down from the nape of the neck and well to the right of his spine (John F. Kennedy Autopsy Photos). According to Dallas surgeons, the bullet did not enter deeply. 5. A fifth shot, from the front, strikes JFK in the throat. For the fourth and fifth shots to be connected, as all lone assassin apologists claim, Oswald would have needed to shoot Kennedy from ground level. Trajectory angles eliminate the possibility otherwise. Likewise, the shallow depth of the back wound precludes a rational argument for a through-and-through bullet wound. Noted pathologist, Cyril Wecht, in his 1993 book, Cause of Death, called the Warren report "absolute nonsense" and Specter's single-bullet theory "an asinine, pseudoscientific sham at best." 6. A sixth shot strikes the windshield of the limo, penetrating the glass. "The presidential limousine, which had a bullet hole in the windshield, witnessed by two Dallas police officers, Sergeant Stavis Ellis and Patrolman H.R. Freeman, who saw it in the parking lot of the emergency room at Parkland, and by journalist Richard Dudman--made by a bullet from the front...noted the hole 'just left of center' in the windshield," wrote Craig Roberts in Kill Zone. "According to Ellis, it was not chipped glass at Parkland he saw. 'You could put a pencil through it.'" 7. A seventh shot strikes the chrome trim strip of the limo's windshield. Arguably, this could well have been a fragment since the projectile did not penetrate the light metal. Gerald Posner, writing in Case Closed, wrote that over 60 grams of fragments were recovered from inside the limo. That is a hell of a lot of fragments. 8. An eighth shot strikes a sign along Elm. "The freeway sign, which had a bullet hole through it that came from the direction of the Grassy Knoll, quickly disappeared," said former sniper, Roberts. 9. A ninth shot strikes Texas Governor John Connelly. Lone assassin apologists, like Arlen Specter, John McAdams, William Manchester and Gerald Posner, true believers in magic bullets and lapses in time, short on common sense, gunmanship, and trajectory angles, claim that a single shot wounded Kennedy and Connelly. Due to trajectory angles from the sixth floor--approximately 17 degrees, depending on the placement of the limo on the street below--a bullet entering and exiting Kennedy would strike Connelly in the lower left hip, if it hit him at all. 10. A tenth shot. The fatal shot to the brain of Kennedy--and a mortal blow to the republic. "There was no question about it; John F. Kennedy had been shot from the right front," said veteran sniper Roberts. "How in the world could anyone look at that film and say that the fatal head strike had come from the rear? The so-called experts . . . had obviously never served in combat, where witnessing high-velocity bullet strikes was commonplace." So let us count the OBJECTS STRUCK. (1) street (2) curb (3) manhole cover (4) JFK's back (5) JFK's throat (6) windshield (7) trim strip (8) street sign (9) Connelly (10) JFK's head. Additionally, we heard reports of a shot striking a curb along Elm, which was hastily covered up. Could Oswald--according to the Lone Assassin Theory--have struck all of these objects in six seconds? Not unless he was armed with an automatic rifle and a dozen bullets. And so the fallacy of three shots doing all this damage, may join all the other fallacies perpetrated by the sinister enemies of the republic. As Mencken said, "All government is evil, in that all government must necessarily make war upon liberty." Thus, while the gloves of government control the reins of propaganda, the evident truth will forever be denied, suppressed, or distorted by highly paid scribes like Posner, and highly placed government lackeys like Specter. 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#1. To: All, horse. yertle turtle, BeAChooser (#0)
Of course, sergeant Carlos Hathcock was only the most famous American military sniper in history, credited with a confirmed 93 kills. But apologists for a lone assassin, who continue to enjoy mainstream media sponsorship 40 years later, continue to argue that an average shooter like Oswald, using a decrepit, war surplus weapon, could have killed Kennedy. Case closed. Ping
Oswald must have had an automatic rifle. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.
Automatic weapon loaded with magic bullets, heck of a thing. It WAS a coup de e'tat.
Not content with his own critical appraisal, Roberts turned to another, equally knowledgeable shooter. “According to my friend, Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, the former senior instructor for the US Marine Corps Sniper Instructor School at Quantico, Virginia, it could not be done as described by the FBI investigators.” “Let me tell you what we did at Quantico,” Hathcock recalls. “We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target, the time limit, the obstacles, everything. I don’t know how many times we tried it, but we couldn’t duplicate what the Warren Commission said Oswald did. Now if I can’t do it, how in the world could a guy who was a non-qual on the rifle range and later only qualified 'marksman' do it?” i guess these two guys are conspiracy whackos, huh? let's see the report of the guy you cited on another thread today. i'm betting, like oswald, he was a paid government patsy.
About the assassination: The Zapruder film contains all the evidence one needs. Kennedy is first hit while the limo is behind the large street sign--around Zapruder frames 216- 220. As Kennedy comes into view from behind the street sign his arms are in motion to grasp at his throat. By the time he comes into view from behind the sign, this bullet is LONG gone. This bullet hit Kennedy in his back and exited out his throat and hit no one else. As the frames continue and at 230, Connally has turned back to his right and towards Kennedy who is, by then, clutching his throat in reaction to being hit during frames 216-220. In frame 230, Connally’s RIGHT wrist can be clearly seen HOLDING his Stetson at chin level. Connally HAS NOT been hit in frame 230. From 230 to when Connolly is hit in frame 238, Connally swings back towards the front of the car; his right wrist makes a sweeping motion down to the front and towards his left thigh; his torso becomes more parallel with the front of the limo. It is then, at frame 238, that Connally is hit. His cheeks puff out at frame 238 and the trajectory is set for a shot from top, back right going down through his chest (shattering ribs), hitting his right wrist (which, by that time, is atop his LEFT leg), with the bullet coming to rest at Connally’s left femur near his knee. The Zapruder film runs at 18 frames per second. Kennedy and Connally were hit by different bullets from different weapons from different angles one second apart. About 4.1 seconds after Connally was hit and at frame 313, Kennedy’s death shot came from level front right. Even a steel jacket round would exhibit deformity subsequent to inflicting bone damage as seen in Connally. The weight of the magic bullet and the bullet fragments left in Connally add up to more than the round under consideration, anyway. On this alone, the magic bullet theory is 100% bullshit. The magic bullet may well be the one that initially hit Kennedy and no one else. About who and why: Let’s review what President Kennedy was doing/did leading up to his murder. 1) In a fight with Israel over Israel obtaining and possessing nuclear weapons. 2) Wanted to take power away from the federal reserve. 3) a double cross in the Bay of Pigs 4) Cut a backroom deal with Khruschev during the Cuban missile crisis and made, in the eyes of some, too many concessions to Russia. 5) wanted to and WAS going get US out of Vietnam 6) was a northern catholic Yankee; charismatic and didn’t take shit from no one. 7) was going to divest the CIA of a lot of power 8) didn’t like or get along with Hoover/FBI 9) was a womanizer and shared Mafia women while brother Bobby declared war on the Mafia (condoned by JFK and which was seen as reneging on Mafia support for JFK‘s election). 10) would have been re-elected. Needless to say, JFK had a plethora of “enemies” both within and without the government. Whether or not LBJ actively participated in the actual assassination, his administration damn well covered it up. In my opinion a cabal of divergent interests came together to kill JFK and then cover it up. In November 1963, there was a coup d’etat . In my opinion, the orders came from the Zionists, American Big Business Elite (including the military-industrial complex [which, interestingly, Eisenhower had warned us all about]), and elements of the CIA. It was a confluence of interests and they employed underworld and untraceable actors to do the deed. I cannot say which of these interests led the cabal but am always partial to the saying “follow the money“--so I guess I would lean towards the Federal Reserve Power Masters as being the main driving force. Because of what transpired during the USS Liberty incident [see below], I tend to lean away from Israel/Mosaad as MAJOR players in JFK’s murder--I bet they were “pushing” the plan . (As an aside, there was no doubt that Bobby Kennedy was going to be elected. We see what happened to him. Teddy started drinking and just shut up.)
Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.
I feel you pretty well summerize the salient events and state the case for the coup d'etat. From that point on the machine has taken the upper levels of the governance from the citizens. There is no accountability for shadows.
I was a high school kid when this happened. When jack Ruby waltzed in and shot Oswald I remember thinking that something was not right about the whole thing. Later when it was released that Ruby had terminal cancer it looked even more like a setup. I had no idea that as many as ten shots may have been fired. If so the idea of a bolt action rifle doing it in the time frame it occured is impossible.
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
That lead singer is under the influence of something.
Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.
Whether or not LBJ actively participated in the actual assassination, his administration damn well covered it up. In my opinion a cabal of divergent interests came together to kill JFK and then cover it up. In November 1963, there was a coup d’etat . bump it.
Makes sense to me.
Daddy started out in San Francisco, ...and it ain't stopped since.
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi
If Gerald Posner says it was a lone assassin, it's gotta be the truth right?? Give me a break. If Carlos Hathcock couldn't do it, then I'm pretty positive that Oswald wouldn't have been able to at all. The guy barely passed marksman.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
Thanks for that summary.
excellent post and i agree with you that the driving force was the FedRes masters. that seems to be the issue above all others that gets presidents assassinated.
The retirement package for that occupation sure sucks...
"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"
Paid in Lead.
There's a lot of reason to believe that Franz Ferdinand was assassinated in Sarajevo in 1914 because people in the Austrian and German governments wanted it to happen. If that's the case, plenty of people in the U.S. government -- and especially in the CIA -- must have been aware of that fact in 1963.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
The Kennedy assassination and the 9-11 attacks are similar in one very important aspect. In the Kennedy assassination, the perps did not count on the advancement of technologies that would allow all the amateur film and recordings to play such an important role. In the 9-11 attacks, the perps never envisioned the internet and the role it would play in connecting all the critics and allowing more serious investigations that show the official story to be a complete fraud.
“Let me tell you what we did at Quantico,” Hathcock recalls. “We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target, the time limit, the obstacles, everything. I don’t know how many times we tried it, but we couldn’t duplicate what the Warren Commission said Oswald did. Now if I can’t do it, how in the world could a guy who was a non-qual on the rifle range and later only qualified 'marksman' do it?”
#2. To: tom007 (#0)
#3. To: wbales (#2)
Oswald must have had an automatic rifle. Yeah, that's the ticket.
#4. To: YertleTurtle (#0)
“First, I analyzed the scene as a sniper . . . I looked at the engagement angles. It was entirely wrong…Here, from what I could see, three problems arose that would influence my shots. First, the target was moving away at a drastic angle to the right from the window, meaning that I would have to position my body to compete with the wall and a set of vertical water pipes . . . This would be extremely difficult for a right-handed shooter. Second, I would have to be ready to fire exactly when the target emerged past some tree branches that obscured the kill zone. Finally, I would have to deal with two factors at the same time; the curve of the street, and the high-to-low angle formula—a law of physics Oswald would not have known.”
#5. To: christine, YertleTurtle, tom007 (#4)
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I take this opportunity to re-post my thoughts:
#6. To: wbales (#5)
#7. To: christine (#4)
#8. To: wbales (#5)
#9. To: Dakmar (#8)
#10. To: wbales (#5)
Needless to say, JFK had a plethora of “enemies” both within and without the government.
#11. To: wbales (#5)
Tootin' on his trumpet loud and mean,
Suddenly a voice said, "Go forth Daddy,
Spread the picture on a wider screen."
And the voice said, "Brother, there's a million pigeons
Ready to be hooked on new religions.
Hit the road, Daddy, leave your common-law wife.
Spread the religion of The Rhythm Of Life."
#12. To: lodwick, wbales (#10)
In November 1963, there was a coup d’etat .
#13. To: tom007 (#0)
#14. To: wbales (#5)
#15. To: wbales (#5)
#16. To: christine (#4)
i'm betting, like oswald, he was a paid government patsy.
#17. To: Axenolith (#16)
#18. To: tom007 (#0)
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