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Title: Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth
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Published: Apr 4, 2007
Author: Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer .
Post Date: 2007-04-04 20:57:00 by tom007
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Air Force Fighter Pilot and Instructor Comes Out for 9/11 Truth

9/11 Blogger | April 2, 2007

Every day, additional military and government people come out for 9/11 truth. The latest is Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer .

Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program.

• Statement to this website 3/25/07: "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building's collapse before it happened, as BBC News did, unless it was pre-planned. Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building collapse."

We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.

We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!" Subscribe to *9-11*

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The "collapse" of WTC Building 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by an airplane] shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned.

Odd. Not one demolition expert in the world seems to believe that.

Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states "they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building collapse."

Is it necessary to alter quotes to fabricate a case against the US government? Apparently so ...

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-04   22:36:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Question, BAC. Perhaps you've addressed this elsewhere, but what is your take on the BBC clip in which they reported the collapse of WTC7 20 minutes before it happened. This is the one where they report it's collapsed when showing an on site reporter with WTC7 still standing in the background.

What plausible explanation do you suggest for what appears to be the BBC having advance knowledge of the building's collapse?

TIA.

Neil McIver  posted on  2007-04-05   2:09:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

what is your take on the BBC clip in which they reported the collapse of WTC7 20 minutes before it happened.

I'll go with what the BBC said. Because bottom line, there isn't a demolition expert in the world who thinks WTC7 was a demolition planned before 9/11. And there is only ONE who thinks it was a demolition planned AFTER the planes hit and collapsed the towers. And he reached that conclusion after seeing carefully selected video provided by a conspiracist who failed to tell him that the building collapsed on 9/11, that it was on fire for about 7 hours before the collapse and that it was observed to be leaning long before the collapse. The fact is that multiple firemen said they saw WTC7 leaning long before it collapsed. And that is a fact you folks simply ignore.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-05   13:16:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'll go with what the BBC said.

Which appears to be this:

The 9/11 conspiracy theories are pretty well known by now. The BBC addressed them earlier this month with a documentary, The Conspiracy Files, shown within the UK.

BBC World logoUntil now, I don't think we've been accused of being part of the conspiracy. But now some websites are using news footage from BBC World on September 11th 2001 to suggest we were actively participating in some sort of attempt to manipulate the audience. As a result, we're now getting lots of emails asking us to clarify our position. So here goes:

1. We're not part of a conspiracy. Nobody told us what to say or do on September 11th. We didn't get told in advance that buildings were going to fall down. We didn't receive press releases or scripts in advance of events happening.

2. In the chaos and confusion of the day, I'm quite sure we said things which turned out to be untrue or inaccurate - but at the time were based on the best information we had. We did what we always did - sourced our reports, used qualifying words like "apparently" or "it's reported" or "we're hearing" and constantly tried to check and double check the information we were receiving.

3. Our reporter Jane Standley was in New York on the day of the attacks, and like everyone who was there, has the events seared on her mind. I've spoken to her today and unsurprisingly, she doesn't remember minute-by-minute what she said or did - like everybody else that day she was trying to make sense of what she was seeing; what she was being told; and what was being told to her by colleagues in London who were monitoring feeds and wires services.

4. We no longer have the original tapes of our 9/11 coverage (for reasons of cock-up, not conspiracy). So if someone has got a recording of our output, I'd love to get hold of it. We do have the tapes for our sister channel News 24, but they don't help clear up the issue one way or another.

5. If we reported the building had collapsed before it had done so, it would have been an error - no more than that. As one of the comments on You Tube says today "so the guy in the studio didn't quite know what was going on? Woah, that totally proves conspiracy... "

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From: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/03/part_of_the_conspiracy_2.html

Which is basically, "we're not part of any conspiracy, the report was a mistake that by sheer chance came to pass, and, oh by the way we lost some of the tape archives to the greatest event in the last 50 years".

I wasn't asking about demolitions, and I certainly am not accusing the BBC of being in on any conspiracy. They simply were told by someone that the building had collapsed right before it did.

And you say the building was leaning. Sounds like you would suggest the building was poorly designed, as no fire should bring it down like that.

The BBC broadcast is clearly something deserving of investigation, but the 911 commission didn't even investigate the collapse of WTC7, much less the reporting of it.

Neil McIver  posted on  2007-04-06   0:46:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

by the way we lost some of the tape archives to the greatest event in the last 50 years".

Happens all the time, Neil. I hear tell they've even lost the original tapes of the moon landing.

And you say the building was leaning.

No, I'm saying that. Firemen at the scene said that. Even measured the leaning.

as no fire should bring it down like that.

And you base this on your structural engineering and fire engineering expertise?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-06   1:03:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And you say the building was leaning.

No, I'm saying that. Firemen at the scene said that. Even measured the leaning.

Okay, let me get this straight. You don't know if it was leaning or not. But you do know that there was no foul play in it's collapse. Your selectiveness in what you know and don't know is quite peculiar.

And you base this on your structural engineering and fire engineering expertise?

In the case of WTC7, I most certainly do.

Neil McIver  posted on  2007-04-06   1:07:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Okay, let me get this straight. You don't know if it was leaning or not.

I know that several different firemen said it was leaning. I know of other reports by people saying it was leaning.

Your selectiveness in what you know and don't know is quite peculiar.

Your need to discount ANY FACT that doesn't agree with this notion that bombs brought down the buildings is quite peculiar.

"And you base this on your structural engineering and fire engineering expertise?"

In the case of WTC7, I most certainly do.

Since you want to put YOURSELF up as an expert, care to share with us your credentials in that regard?

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-06   1:21:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#88. To: beachooser, Destro, Minerva, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#86)

You're whining, again, BAC! Not all that unusual when you don't get your way, but that only illuminates your obviously limp wrist.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-06 01:24:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Since you want to put YOURSELF up as an expert, care to share with us your credentials in that regard?

You go first. Let's hear your credentials for doing the evaluation. And remember, reading moronic wingnut blogs doesn't count for anything.

...  posted on  2007-04-06 01:25:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Your need to discount ANY FACT that doesn't agree with this notion that bombs brought down the buildings is quite peculiar.

No. I don't know what brought it down, but it certainly appears it was a singular event. I would like to know which particular I-beam supposedly failed that caused all 4 corners of the building to drop simultaneously. What I DO find peculiar is that the BBC reported it had collapsed while the building was still visible in the background, something you apparently refuse to find the least bit unusual.

If WTC7 wasn't brought down by bombs, it seems we've been needlessly paying these demolition guys for explosives to drop buildings, right?

Since you want to put YOURSELF up as an expert, care to share with us your credentials in that regard?

Sure. I was educated in the USA where armies of lawyers are ready and willing to sue at the drop of a hat, much less the drop of a building, where it's hard enough to avoid suits when one does nothing wrong. You see, in the USA people are trained to bend over backwards to cover their butts from lawyers. Apparently, however, you hold that WTC7 really was a shabby construction such that a simple fires could have brought it down at any time since it's construction. Little did we know the workplace hazard it has been all these years for those working in the building.

As for the moon landing tapes, they were archived at the time because they were a different format not compatible with standard audio/video medium of the day, and conversion was not feasible. Only in more recent days is it possible to convert them. 911 was totally different. Everyone knew it was an historic day from the get go, but somehow, a major broadcaster lost records from that day. Yeah, that's also peculiar.

Neil McIver  posted on  2007-04-06 11:57:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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