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Title: Ex-CIA: 911 Almost Certainly A 'Monstrous Series Of Lies'
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Published: Apr 1, 2007
Author: Paul Chen
Post Date: 2007-04-05 11:26:02 by WTC7 911Smoking Cannon
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David Ray Griffin is widely recognized as one of the leading spokespersons of the 9/11 truth movement. This is by virtue of his previous four books on the subject. Professor Griffin and a growing list of scholars, other researchers as well as diverse experts and activists, reject the official Islamist mastermind conspiracy theory about 9/11 advanced by Establishment interests. Although the 9/11 truth movement was long ignored by the U.S. government and the mainstream media, recent polls have shown that (as Time magazine has acknowledged) the rejection of the official theory has become "a mainstream political phenomenon." It is not surprising, therefore, that the U.S. government and the Big Business controlled media have shifted tactics. No longer ignoring the 9/11 truth movement, they have released a flurry of stories and reports aimed at debunking it. In David Ray Griffin's new book entitled Debunking 9/11, shows that these attempts can themselves be easily debunked. "Debunking 9/11 is a superb compendium of the strong body of evidence showing the official U.S. Government story of what happened on September 11, 2001 to be almost certainly a monstrous series of lies. Tragically, the entire course of U.S. foreign and domestic policies since that date has grown out of these almost certain falsehoods," says Bill Christison, former senior official of the CIA. Mr. Christison further indicates that, "This single book could (and should) provide the basis for the United Nations International Court of Justice, or some specially constituted global body (independent of the U.S.) to investigate with highest priority, and publicly report its findings about, the charge that unknown elements within the U.S. Government, and possibly some individuals elsewhere closely allied to the U.S., caused or contributed to causing the events of September 11 to happen." Besides demonstrating the pitiful failure of "Debunking 9/11 Myths" (published by Popular Mechanics and endorsed by Senator John McCain), Professor Griffin critically challenges recent reports and stories put out by the US Department of State, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the New York Times, Vanity Fair, and Time magazine. Professor Griffin also responds to criticisms of these efforts by left-leaning and Christian publications -- which one might have expected to be supportive. Throughout these critiques, Griffin shows that the charge that is regularly levelled against critics of the official theory -- that they employ irrational and unscientific methods to defend conclusions based on faith -- actually applies more fully to those who defend the official theory. "Considering how the 9/11 tragedy has been used by the Bush administration to propel us into immoral wars again and again, I believe that David Ray Griffin's provocative questions about 9/11 deserve to be investigated and addressed," says Howard Zinn, author of A People's History of the United States. "Professor Griffin is the nemesis of the 9/11 cover-up. This new book destroys the credibility of the NIST and Popular Mechanics reports and annihilates his critics," says Paul Craig Roberts, Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury during the Reagan administration. "David Ray Griffin hits another one out of the park by taking on the left gatekeepers and the mass media for the lies and cover-up called 'the official story of 9/11/01,' which is the greatest conspiracy theory ever perpetrated on the American public. I highly recommend this book for all thinking Americans," further indicates Meria Heller, Producer Host of the Meria Heller Show (<http://www.meria.net).>http://www.meria.net>http://www.meria.net). This book, by debunking the most prevalent attempts to refute the evidence cited by the 9/11 truth movement, shows that this movement's central claim -- that 9/11 was an inside job -- remains the only explanation that fits the facts. David Ray Griffin is professor of philosophy of religion and theology, emeritus, at Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Graduate University in Claremont, California, where he remains a co-director of the Center for Process Studies. His 30 books include The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11 (2004), The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions (2005), 9/11 and American Empire (2006, ed. with Peter Dale Scott), and Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11 (2006)
Poster Comment: Although the 9/11 truth movement was long ignored by the U.S. government and the mainstream media, recent polls have shown that (as Time magazine has acknowledged) the rejection of the official theory has become "a mainstream political phenomenon." Hey, BeAChooser, suck on that.
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#10. To: WTC7 911Smoking Cannon, ALL (#0)
As long as you
folks keep spamming the forum with the same Griffin nonsense I'll offer this in
response (which, of course, you'll simply ignore because I'm *evil*): The
following is a rebuttal of claims made by Griffin in his new book "9-11 and the
American Empire": **********
Tell it to the woman standing uncinged in the gash: Your problem, BAC, is that you think what your government's bought-and-paid-for experts say is reality when, in fact, the evidence (like the pic above) shows that it is the opposite. So, forget about your fellow shills repeating lies from other shills. Cut yourself out of the shill-to-shill circular shit- exchange and, instead, look at the evidence, man!
That's every structural engineer; demolition expert; structural materials expert, expert in buckling or fire, expert in seismology, and macro-world physicist IN THE WORLD. If the US government actually does have controll of those tens of thousands (or is it hundreds of thousands) of professionals ... even the ones in China and France and Russia ... then you folks really are up the creek. Your task is HOPELESS. ROTFLOL! And btw, Arator, you have no more of a clue what that photo says than the man in the moon. ROTFLOL!
And that is empty hyperbole. Every one in the world, eh BAC? Every single one without exception. That's false on its face. Does your boss know that you're this ineffective? Perhaps a demotion is in order...
Then name one.
Here's a Dutch demolitions expert Danny Jowenko of Jowenko.nl, a major Dutch demolitions firm, who says WTC 7 could not have been brought down by fire. For more info, check out the story at 9-11 Blogger.
Actually, he did not say WTC could not be brought down by fire. And if you listen closely to what he actually did say, he does not think WTC 7 was a PRE-PLANNED demolition. His theory is that Silverstein decided AFTER the collapse of the WTC towers to demolish WTC 7 rather than try to repair it ... an insurance scam. And he came to that conclusion after seeing a video shown to him by a conspiracist (obviously not all the data available). Before reaching his conclusion, he wasn't told the building was involved in 9/11, wasn't told the building had been on fire for hours and hours, and wasn't told that firemen had said the structure was leaning and going to collapse well before it actually did. And by the way, he also said that the WTC towers were NOT controlled demolitions.
That is a f*cking lie. No demolitions expert would say that they decided and wired WTC 7 to implode in the chaotic hours after the destruction of Towers 1 and 2. They wouldn't say it because even non-demolition experts know that such a feat is impossible. WTC 7, if it were brought down with explosives (and it was), had to have been pre-wired to blow before 9-11, which means it was PRE- PLANNED. Jowenko did not say otherwise. Because of the shamelessness of your transparent lie about Jowenko, I now wash my hands of you, BAC. If chrissy wants to ban your sorry ass, I won't stand in her way. You have ZERO integrity, ZERO respect for truth and, therefore, ZERO value to this forum (or to this life in general, for that matter). Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say. You are a lost soul, BAC. Adrift on an ocean of lies and black propaganda. And I don't think there's any hope of saving you. You may become the last Bushbot standing, the last one to fully buy into and peddle their shit. But no one here is buying it. And soon, only a marginalized leperous handful will, but they will be social outcasts and pariahs just like the last believers in and followers of the Hitler cult are today. Just as a monster like Hitler has his totally deluded accolytes who not only still believe but live out his lies even today, so Bush will always have you. And you deserve each other. Truly.
No. When the Twin Towers fell they gauged out the side of WTC making the building list over and setting the thousands of gallons of diesel fuel in the storage tanks inside the building on fire. Several hours later the building collapsed. The conspiracy is in why the USA allowed in known terrorists (many of whom worked for the CIA overseas in Bosnia for example), allowed them to train and dvelop their plans in America unhindered and how they lost track of them - wink -wink - somehow to allow them to hijack 4 planes, etc.
#61. To: Destro (#60)
List over?? WTC-7 was in no manner listing. Look at it over the shoulder of the BBC reporter who was reproting that WTC-& had collasped while it was still standing in the background. No listing there. That "listing" building fell straight down on all sides. The conspiracy is in why the USA allowed in known terrorists (many of whom worked for the CIA overseas in Bosnia for example), allowed them to train and dvelop their plans in America unhindered and how they lost track of them - wink -wink - somehow to allow them to hijack 4 planes, etc. PNAC wanted and got thier "New Pearl Harbor".
Once you subscribe to that, how the buildings collapsed is really immaterial anyway.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest David Ray Griffin is widely recognized as one of the leading
spokespersons of the 9/11 truth movement.
#11. To: BeAChooser (#10)
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False. That's NOT what experts in fire actually say. The WTC fires were very big and very hot. And they lasted as long as they needed to last in order to significantly weaken the fireproofing damaged steel.
#13. To: Arator, ALL (#11)
your government's bought-and-paid-for experts
#17. To: BeAChooser (#13)
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That's every structural engineer; demolition expert; structural materials expert, expert in buckling or fire, expert in seismology, and macro- world physicist IN THE WORLD.
#21. To: Arator, ALL (#17)
And that is empty hyperbole. Every one in the world, eh BAC? Every single one without exception. That's false on its face.
#26. To: BeAChooser (#21)
Then name one.
#41. To: Arator, ALL (#26)
Here's a Dutch demolitions expert Danny Jowenko of Jowenko.nl, a major Dutch demolitions firm, who says WTC 7 could not have been brought down by fire.
#56. To: BeAChooser, christine (#41)
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Actually, he did not say WTC could not be brought down by fire. And if you listen closely to what he actually did say, he does not think WTC 7 was a PRE-PLANNED demolition. His theory is that Silverstein decided AFTER the collapse of the WTC towers to demolish WTC 7 rather than try to repair it
#60. To: Arator, BeAChooser, christine (#56)
. WTC 7, if it were brought down with explosives (and it was), had to have been pre-wired to blow before 9-11, which means it was PRE- PLANNED. Jowenko did not say otherwise.
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#64. To: Destro (#60)
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The conspiracy is in why the USA allowed in known terrorists (many of whom worked for the CIA overseas in Bosnia for example), allowed them to train and dvelop their plans in America unhindered and how they lost track of them - wink -wink - somehow to allow them to hijack 4 planes, etc.
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