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Title: Hussein's Prewar Ties To Al-Qaeda Discounted [BeAChooser is Heartbroken]
Source: Washington Post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... /04/05/AR2007040502263_pf.html
Published: Apr 5, 2007
Author: R. Jeffrey Smith
Post Date: 2007-04-05 22:50:34 by ...
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Views: 560
Comments: 43

Pentagon Report Says Contacts Were Limited

Captured Iraqi documents and intelligence interrogations of Saddam Hussein and two former aides "all confirmed" that Hussein's regime was not directly cooperating with al-Qaeda before the U.S. invasion of Iraq, according to a declassified Defense Department report released yesterday.

The declassified version of the report, by acting Inspector General Thomas F. Gimble, also contains new details about the intelligence community's prewar consensus that the Iraqi government and al-Qaeda figures had only limited contacts, and its judgments that reports of deeper links were based on dubious or unconfirmed information. The report had been released in summary form in February.

The report's release came on the same day that Vice President Cheney, appearing on Rush Limbaugh's radio program, repeated his allegation that al-Qaeda was operating inside Iraq "before we ever launched" the war, under the direction of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the terrorist killed last June.

"This is al-Qaeda operating in Iraq," Cheney told Limbaugh's listeners about Zarqawi, who he said had "led the charge for Iraq." Cheney cited the alleged history to illustrate his argument that withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq would "play right into the hands of al-Qaeda."

Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), who requested the report's declassification, said in a written statement that the complete text demonstrates more fully why the inspector general concluded that a key Pentagon office -- run by former undersecretary of defense Douglas J. Feith -- had inappropriately written intelligence assessments before the March 2003 invasion alleging connections between al-Qaeda and Iraq that the U.S. intelligence consensus disputed.

The report, in a passage previously marked secret, said Feith's office had asserted in a briefing given to Cheney's chief of staff in September 2002 that the relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda was "mature" and "symbiotic," marked by shared interests and evidenced by cooperation across 10 categories, including training, financing and logistics.

Instead, the report said, the CIA had concluded in June 2002 that there were few substantiated contacts between al-Qaeda operatives and Iraqi officials, and said that it lacked evidence of a long-term relationship like the one Iraq had forged with other terrorist groups.

"Overall, the reporting provides no conclusive signs of cooperation on specific terrorist operations," that CIA report said, adding that discussions on the issue were "necessarily speculative."

The CIA had separately concluded that reports of Iraqi training on weapons of mass destruction were "episodic, sketchy, or not corroborated in other channels," the inspector general's report said. It quoted an August 2002 CIA report describing the relationship as more closely resembling "two organizations trying to feel out or exploit each other" rather than cooperating operationally.

The CIA was not alone, the defense report emphasized. The Defense Intelligence Agency had concluded that year that "available reporting is not firm enough to demonstrate an ongoing relationship" between the Iraqi regime and al-Qaeda, it said.

But the contrary conclusions reached by Feith's office -- and leaked to the conservative Weekly Standard magazine before the war -- were publicly praised by Cheney as the best source of information on the topic, a circumstance the Pentagon report cites in documenting the impact of what it described as "inappropriate" work.

Feith has vigorously defended his work, accusing Gimble of "giving bad advice based on incomplete fact-finding and poor logic," and charging that the acting inspector general has been "cheered on by the chairmen of the Senate intelligence and armed services committees." In January, Feith's successor at the Pentagon, Eric S. Edelman, wrote a 52-page rebuttal to the inspector general's report that disputed its analysis and recommendations for Pentagon reform.

Cheney's public statements before and after the war about the risks posed by Iraq have closely tracked the briefing Feith's office presented to the vice president's then-chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby. That includes the briefing's depiction of an alleged 2001 meeting in Prague between an Iraqi intelligence official and one of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers as one of eight "Known Iraq-Al Qaida Contacts."

The defense report states that at the time, "the intelligence community disagreed with the briefing's assessment that the alleged meeting constituted a 'known contact' " -- a circumstance the report said was known to Feith's office. But his office had bluntly concluded in a July 2002 critique of a CIA report on Iraq's relationship with al-Qaeda that the CIA's interpretation of the facts it cited "ought to be ignored."

The briefing to Libby was also presented with slight variations to then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, then-CIA Director George J. Tenet and then-deputy national security adviser Stephen Hadley. It was prepared in part by what the defense report described as a "junior Naval Reservist" intelligence analyst detailed to Feith's office from the DIA. The person is not named in the report, but Edelman wrote that she was requested by Feith's office.

When a senior intelligence analyst working for the government's counterterrorism task force obtained an early account of the conclusions by Feith's office -- titled "Iraq and al-Qaida: Making the Case" -- the analyst prepared a detailed rebuttal calling it of "no intelligence value" and taking issue with 15 of 26 key conclusions, the report states. The analyst's rebuttal was shared with intelligence officers on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but evidently not with others.

Edelman complained in his own account of the incident that a senior Joint Chiefs analyst -- in responding to a suggestion by the DIA analyst that the "Making the Case" account be widely circulated -- told its author that "putting it out there would be playing into the hands of people" such as then-Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz, and belittled the author for trying to support "some agenda of people in the building."

But the inspector general's report, in a footnote, commented that it was "noteworthy . . . that post-war debriefs of Sadaam Hussein, [former Iraqi foreign minister] Tariq Aziz, [former Iraqi intelligence minister Mani al-Rashid] al Tikriti, and [senior al-Qaeda operative Ibn al-Shaykh] al-Libi, as well as document exploitation by DIA all confirmed that the Intelligence Community was correct: Iraq and al-Qaida did not cooperate in all categories" alleged by Feith's office.

From these sources, the report added, "the terms the Intelligence Community used to describe the relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida were validated, [namely] 'no conclusive signs,' and 'direct cooperation . . . has not been established.' "

Zarqawi, whom Cheney depicted yesterday as an agent of al-Qaeda in Iraq before the war, was not then an al-Qaeda member but was the leader of an unaffiliated terrorist group who occasionally associated with al-Qaeda adherents, according to several intelligence analysts. He publicly allied himself with al-Qaeda after the U.S. invasion, in early 2004.

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#7. To: nolu_chan, aristeides, bluedogtxn, Brian S, robin, christine, Diana, kiki, rowdee, Mekons4, AGAviator, Neil McIver, SKYDRIFTER, Burkeman1, angle, randge, Fred Mertz (#0) (Edited)

The declassified version of the report, by acting Inspector General Thomas F. Gimble, also contains new details about the intelligence community's prewar consensus that the Iraqi government and al-Qaeda figures had only limited contacts, and its judgments that reports of deeper links were based on dubious or unconfirmed information. The report's release came on the same day that Vice President Cheney, appearing on Rush Limbaugh's radio program, repeated his allegation that al-Qaeda was operating inside Iraq "before we ever launched" the war, under the direction of Abu Musab al- Zarqawi, the terrorist killed last June.

Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), who requested the report's declassification, said in a written statement that the complete text demonstrates more fully why the inspector general concluded that a key Pentagon office -- run by former undersecretary of defense Douglas J. Feith -- had inappropriately written intelligence assessments before the March 2003 invasion alleging connections between al-Qaeda and Iraq that the U.S. intelligence consensus disputed.

The report, in a passage previously marked secret, said Feith's office had asserted in a briefing given to Cheney's chief of staff in September 2002 that the relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda was "mature" and "symbiotic," marked by shared interests and evidenced by cooperation across 10 categories, including training, financing and logistics.

Instead, the report said, the CIA had concluded in June 2002 that there were few substantiated contacts between al-Qaeda operatives and Iraqi officials, and said that it lacked evidence of a long-term relationship like the one Iraq had forged with other terrorist groups.

It's Doug Feith and his Office of Special Plans that begs Congressional investigation. It's a President who blamed "faulty" CIA intel for the Iraq invsion that begs Congressional investigation.

The CIA did not give the White House bad intel. That was a flagrant lie by the President.

It was Doug Feith who knowingly gave the WH MANUFACTURED intel, and the WH ran with it inspite of the fact that the CIA disputed Feith's allegations.

Forget about the 8 fired political appointee lawyers. They represent "background music." True evil exists on the front stage. The Democrats have been given a mandate that they should not squander. They should go for the jugulars of these known traitors and they should bring them down. Put impeachment on the front burner, Nancy. America wants it, demands it.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-04-06   0:18:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: scrapper2 (#7)

The CIA did not give the White House bad intel. That was a flagrant lie by the President.

It was Doug Feith who knowingly gave the WH MANUFACTURED intel, and the WH ran with it inspite of the fact that the CIA disputed Feith's allegations.

For all intents and purposes, the WH ginned up its own intel. They created their own office of propaganda intel and said what they wanted to hear.

I'm not sure there is a great deal left to investigate. They lied the nation into war and the whole world knows it.

It would appear that the Intelligence Creator-in-Chief was Cheney.

nolu_chan  posted on  2007-04-06   16:37:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: nolu_chan (#21)

For all intents and purposes, the WH ginned up its own intel. They created their own office of propaganda intel and said what they wanted to hear.

I'm not sure there is a great deal left to investigate. They lied the nation into war and the whole world knows it.

It would appear that the Intelligence Creator-in-Chief was Cheney.

The whole world may know what was done, but no one has been held to account for their actions. The Iraqi peoples and American soldiers have suffered mortal consequences due to the manufactured intel that caused the Iraq invasion, yet the people who manufactured the false intel as well as the leadership who acted on what they knew to be lies walk freely and have suffered no negative consequences for their actions.

IMO, GWB and Cheney should be impeached and Doug Feith and Paul Wolfowitz as directors of the Office of Special Plans should be tried for treason.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-04-06   19:56:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: scrapper2 (#22)

MO, GWB and Cheney should be impeached and Doug Feith and Paul Wolfowitz as directors of the Office of Special Plans should be tried for treason.

An attempted impeachment that cannot be sustained is counter-productive. The votes in the Senate are simply not there.

While not usual, a person may be impeached after they leave office. Secretary of War William W. Belknap was impeached in 1876 a month after he left office. By a vote of 37-29, the Senate decided it had jurisdiction to proceed despite Belknap's resignation.

There is a zero chance of sustaining a charge of treason against Feith and Wolfowitz. Treason is the one crime defined and limited by the Constitution. Treason can consist only of waging war against the United States or giving aid and comfort to her enemies. There must be at least two witnesses to the same overt act. The Framers intentionally made it extremely difficult to sustain a charge of treason, mindful of excesses regarding the charge as used by the British monarch.

There have been seven treason convictions in the history of the U.S. Two [John Brown/Thomas Dorr] were for treason against a state [Virginia/Rhode Island]. Two were subsequently granted presidential pardons. The three remaining Federal convictions are from World War 2.

Following the Civil War, Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee were indicted but neither case ever went to trial. Aaron Burr was tried for treason but not found guilty.

Well known cases (Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Jonathan Pollard, et al) have relied upon other charges such as espionage or sedition. An actual charge of treason is narrowly defined, generally not applicable, and usually cannot be made.

What some deserve and what is reasonably attainable may be different things. While it may be impossible to get hold of the jugular, death by a thousand cuts is still death.

nolu_chan  posted on  2007-04-06   22:30:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: nolu_chan (#23)

While it may be impossible to get hold of the jugular, death by a thousand cuts is still death.

This seems to have been the Democratic/Pelosi plan from day one, and it seems to be a good one.

A lot of effort went into quieting the impeachment howels over on KOS. The Democrats then began an investigation into every ascpect of the past six years. At my last count there were fifty-two open investigations and they just began a new one into the recess appointment today. If only one in ten bears fruit Bush will be dead meat by 2008.

The main problem with the plan seems to be that people don't have patience for it. They are used to getting promises without action. So far, however, the Democrats seem to be delivering - at lest to the extent that is humanly possible. A few more months of this might go a long way towards quieting the dissent.

Dragging up one the Bush crimes one after the other also has the effect of killing off the last of Bush's support. We might yet see the votes for an impeachment - or the GOP itself might find it necessary to get rid of Bush.

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#34. To: ... (#26)

Dragging up one the Bush crimes one after the other also has the effect of killing off the last of Bush's support. We might yet see the votes for an impeachment - or the GOP itself might find it necessary to get rid of Bush.

Watergate did not kill Nixon with one big crushing blow but with a seemingly unending series of revelations of misdeeds and corruption and coverups. Even the GOP might not find it so easy to get rid of Bush. There is no way the Dems will allow that to happen unless Cheney goes first. If Bush/Cheney become an anchor which threatens the political aspirations of enough GOP incumbents, they will act in their interest. Politicians don't much give a crap about the people, but they are highly motivated about getting re-elected.

I don't think the Dems want to get rid of Bush. They want to investigate this administration until election day. They want the evening news to lead with a new revelation of administration scandal night after night after night.

nolu_chan  posted on  2007-04-07   5:12:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#36. To: nolu_chan (#34)

Watergate did not kill Nixon with one big crushing blow but with a seemingly unending series of revelations of misdeeds and corruption and coverups.

I don't think the Dems want to get rid of Bush. They want to investigate this administration until election day. They want the evening news to lead with a new revelation of administration scandal night after night after night.

This is exactly what I am thinkng. An impeachment effort would be polarizing and the outcome is unpredictable -- on many levels. Look how the Gingritch witch hunt blew up in their faces.

Armed with the light of day, the Democrats can make Bush and Cheney absolute pariahs by 2008. I am thinking the actual tactic is to force the Republicans to remove Bush and Cheney as they did with Nixon - or perhaps face a lurid show trial during the final weeks of the run to the election.

Someone also made a good point to me last night. Bush and Cheney did lie us into the war, there is no doubt about that. The problem is that there is no smoking gun and this allows the GOP to keep the BeAChoosers of the world in the boat and to keep the matter out of the Congressional impeachment court. This smoking gun shouldn't be too hard to find however as the past six years are sifted through and people go under oath. This apparently is the holy grail. Conclusive proof that that Bush or Cheney, and not just Fox News or Rumsfeld, lied us into war will finish these guys very quickly. They would probably just step down to end the matter ASAP. This may be the Democratic plan A.

But simply making Bush and Cheney inneffective and using them as an example of what the GOP really stands for might be enough. It is not as satisfying as an impeachment would be right now, but it may confer more long term benefits. Look at how it is actually a good thing that Kerry lost. He would have simply been torn to shreds by the GOP controlled Congress and left with the blame for the loss in Iraq. What is unfolding now is actually better in the long run.

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