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Title: The Third Stage
Source: Truthaction.org
URL Source: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?do ... 6223576086&q=%22third+stage%22
Published: Apr 9, 2007
Author: Truthaction.org
Post Date: 2007-04-09 10:54:59 by robin
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A collection of short mainstream media and independent film clips on the evolution of 9/11 skepticism.

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Thanks to Eoghan for posting this link on another thread.

At 18 minutes into this 21 minute video Webster Tarpley gives a compelling explanation about the Able Danger/Able Warrior drill; that it went live.

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#1. To: robin (#0)

Excellent video...Alex Jones had a representative of this organization on his show Friday.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-04-09   11:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'll just point out that your video takes Jowenko's comments OUT OF CONTEXT. It is so dishonest that it shows Jowenko (the Danish demolition expert) being told the collapse of WTC7 took place on the 11th and he says

Jowenko - Are you sure it was the 11th? That can't be.

Interviewer (conspiracy type) - Seven hours after the World Trade Center came down.

Jowenko - Then they worked hard.

And they cut the interview at this point.

The very next thing Jowenko said was " I don't know the construction of the building but then they very rigorously, very quickly placed charges." In other words, as confirmed by other statements Jowenko made in that interview, he thinks the demolition of WTC7 was something set up AFTER the collapse of the towers. In fact, elsewhere in that interview Jowenko states that

"It strikes me that, that could be a reason for Silverstone or stein ... The owner. The owner of the building that he says: look, this will cost me a lot of pennies and what do I get back, still the same old building. And on such a moment I think that Giuliani easily would give a license to demolish, here you are if you want to get rid of it, asap."

and

"Yes, then Silverstein must say bring it down because once there is fire, if it became hot you have to replace your steel. Do you know what it cost if you have to replace the bottom columns and jack up the rest? That will not be cheap for a building with 47 floors. Then you say: away with it. And if there is a company, you so much million, we do it for 1 million. That's how it goes. Business goes very fast in such a situation. And they do it."

His theory is that the collapse of the towers so badly damages WTC7 that Silverstein makes the decision to demolish it in order to avoid the cost of repairing it. That's a far different theory than the one this Third Stage is trying to promote.

Next in the video it quotes Dr Steven Jones, which it identifies as a "physicist" talking about molten metal ... as if he's some sort of expert on the subject. The video doesn't tell the audience that Dr Jones spent the last 30 years of his careers focused ENTIRELY on sub atomic particles and cold fusion. It doesn't tell the audience that Jones had never worked on or published a single paper in the macro-world ... especially one dealing with molten anything.

Then he mentions some metallurgists who identify a eutectic reaction in the WTC steel that depends on the presence of sulfur. He says where did that sulfur come from and answers thermate. What he doesn't tell his audience is that gypsum board ... a material used extensively in the WTC towers also contains large amounts of sulfur. What the video doesn't mention is the work of REAL expects in chemical reactions like Dr Greening which explains how molten metal might have been produced in the WTC rubble without any need for thermate (or nukes). Just aluminum, sulfur, water, heat and such... Here:

http://www.911myths.com/WTCTHERM.pdf

http://www.911myths.com/html/traces_of_thermate_at_the_wtc.html

What is doesn't mention is that there are other, far more ordinary reasons the fires in the structure and rubble might have been hot enough to melt metal. Here:

http://911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html

Next Jones mischaracterizes the molten material that was seen streaming from the towers a short time before the collapse. There is no mention that experts think it is aluminum from the planes that the impact drove into that corner of the tower. Instead, he talks about the color of the material suggesting it's indicative of steel and thermate. You should know that Jones is also on the record claiming that "In the videos of the molten metal falling from WTC2 just prior to its collapse, it appears consistently orange, not just orange in spots and certainly not silvery." But this is absolutely false. If you watch this video,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2991254740145858863&q=cameraplanet+9%2F11

you will see silver color in the stream of material once it gets away from window. Clear as day. This occurs from 12 seconds in the video to 33 seconds into the video. It is especially clear at about 32 seconds into the video. Another sequence of streaming material begins around 55 seconds into the video. From 0.57 to 1:07, there is clearly a silver look to the material pouring from the tower. And at 1:14 - 1:15 the material pouring from the corner of the tower is VERY CLEARLY SILVER, NOT ORANGE. So Steven Jones is lying. He is someone willing to lie to prove his *theory*.

Next the video states that "each of these 110-story Twin Towers fell upon itself in about ten seconds at nearly free-fall speed." This is again absolutely false. The towers actually took about 15 seconds to collapse, as numerous photos, real time videos and statements by people even on conspiracy websites prove. Here:

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/videos/ntc_frames.html

http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/tower1_dust_cloud_afterglow.mpg

By now, the authors of the video should now this ... if they've done even a minimal job of research. The fact that they repeat this misinformation just proves they are simply rehashing the same tired conspiracy nonsense they've seen elsewhere.

Beyond this, I have no comment about the video other than that you will not find the truth based on misinformation and lies.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-09   17:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'll just point out that your video takes Jowenko's comments OUT OF CONTEXT.

Sorry your dude was a bust...Jowenko pre-payroll? Fucking hilarious.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-04-09   17:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sorry your dude was a bust...Jowenko pre-payroll?

You need to be a little clearer if you want folks to understand what you are trying to say.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-09   19:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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