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Title: It appears that the same vested interests that call the shots at FreeRepublic and LittleGreenFootballs also do the same with DailyKos and DU. (WMR)
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Published: Apr 9, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-04-09 13:44:25 by robin
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April 9, 2007 -- This web site has for some time sensed a certain synergism between so-called left-wing web sites (in reality, gatekeepers) like Daily Kos and Democratic Underground and those on the far right like Little Green Footballs and its grandmaster, FreeRepublic. Our attention has been drawn by our friends at ProgressiveIndependent.com to a concerted campaign by DailyKos and the LittleGreenFootball gremlins to censor writer and cartoonist Ben Heine for his cartoons and writings exposing the Nazi racialist ideology of Israeli politician Avigdor Lieberman. We are happy to provide a link to PI's screen captures of DailyKos that triggered the censorship by the "left" and right web sites. We can sympathize with those who are banned by phony "progressive" web sites like DailyKos and DU. It appears that the same vested interests that call the shots at FreeRepublic and LittleGreenFootballs also do the same with DailyKos and DU. It can assuredly be said that WMR controls its own content and, although we have received demands that certain information be removed, we have often responded to such requests with a hearty "drop dead," whether the requests come from Saudi billionaire sheiks, U.S. defense contractors who torture prisoners, or Israeli right-wing expansionists.
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#1. To: All, christine, Zipporah, Jethro Tull, aristeides, Ferret Mike, Mekons4, Dakmar (#0)
any thoughts on this idea?
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
very interesting...4um is one of the few forums left which isn't controlled.
Yet. :-)
There is certainly censorship on Daily Kos, but it does not begin to approach the level achieved at FR and LP.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
The KOS bans 9 11 was an inside job posts, and DU is often like FR; you feel you are posting affirmations with no real substance. Their rules can be arcane and I have had threads die because they got moved from larger forums to say the forum in the Middle East and the pictures I had included which were fine for general politics were banned in that sub-forum, so it was killed. The powers that be want the Internet controlled if not killed and are terrified at how it has successfully pierced the lies and manipulations of those that created and executed operations like the 9 1 false flag operation. Liberty Post is controlled and neutered too. Make no mistake about that one.
Here's Ben Heine's perspectives on the censorship at Daily Kos, what happened behind the scenes to his account tags and the title of his diary shortly after he posted his cartoons and text piece. He makes some good points as do his supporters whose comments follow: http://benjaminheine.blogspot.com/2007/04/artwork-that-ate- israel.html
Yet. :-) And it drives the looney tunes such as the Clowns and other Zionutters right up the wall. ;0)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Madsen should post here once in a while. He might like the place, and some of what we post is certainly catching on. We need more rope! ROTFLOL!
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Is Democratic Underground an AIPAC Asset? In recent months, I've wondered if DU is an AIPAC asset. Who is David Allen, and why does he appear to be protecting the president and his administration when it comes to 9-11? Why is anything that suggests conspiracies shuttled off to the dungeon? Why are what appear to be AIPAC regulars allowed to constantly harass members who don't buy into the AIPAC world view? There are a dozen of what appear to be good Republicans ensconced in the dungeon, free to attack anyone who agrees with the vast majority of Americans, that 9-11 truth has yet to be heard. Even though the vast majority of DU members believe the government has hidden the truth of 9-11, anyone who pushes that thought is slapped down by David Allen. Who is this pompous tool of the Bush administration? Who is paying him? He certainly doesn't seem concerned that his readership has dropped dramatically in the past 6 months. Why is he pushing a poll for his readers, a poll that is clearly a psych evaluation of those who take it? Why is he telling people to go take it? Who does this guy really work for? It's not Democrats. I do not trust David Allen or the manner in which DU is used by him. There are posters who seem to hint at approving illegal acts. Why are such threads - which appear to be fly paper to catch the more outrageous - allowed? When I look at DU and how it is run, I see an organization that is of questionable purpose and lineage. I don't trust DU, and doubt seriously its purpose is to help Democrats. When only 16% of Americans have said they believe the official story of 9-11, why is it so difficult to talk about that in online communities that are supposed to be political?
I dont trust any of them to be honest.. save this one :P.. it's controlled opposition IMO..
I don't understand your comment. What do you mean by "controlled opposition?"
hi! your questions are also answers. any site whose agenda is for either of the fraudulent two parties we know is not one where you're going to find truthseekers welcomed. that's not the case here. welcome. i'm glad you've joined us.
I don't know about Kos, because I don't read it, but DU has a site for Israeli discussions. It is possible the mods would have gotten rid of something they consider inflammatory, but on the whole, I don't see a real agenda to defend Israel there. I've never had any of my posts or threads disappeared, and I have a few pretty tough comments there. For a time, they just said, no more Israel flamewars. Then they built a site for them. And they can get REAL nasty. Like, to the death threat stage.
Thanks! One of your members has sent me links to your board a number of times, and I have read it with interest for the past few months when I get a link in an email. He suggested I register, since I've been booted from DU and have a real understanding of the dynamics at work there. I continue to read DU, because I've been studying what its propaganda purposes might be. I have some things to say that can't be said anywhere in mainstream media, or even the DUs and FRs. Government has never in my life time encroached upon the individual and our constitutional liberties as it does now. Carte blanche is given to private entities that sell and trade our private information. The internet is our last bastion of freedom, and it alone has allowed the political gadflies to exist and continue histories that mainstream media are assigned to whitewash. but I digress ...
Essentially what I'm referring to is the Hegelian Dialectic,, "Dialectic ....the Hegelian process of change in which a concept or its realization passes over into and is preserved and fulfilled by its opposite... development through the stages of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis in accordance with the laws of dialectical materialism ....any systematic reasoning, exposition, or argument that juxtaposes opposed or contradictory ideas and usually seeks to resolve their conflict ... ....the dialectical tension or opposition between two interacting forces or elements."
Controlled opposition = deceptively appearing to be opposition when in fact the two sides are confederates working for the same goal.
well said. i look forward to getting to know you!
In that case, I agree. Karl Rove has been the master of dirty tricks for over 35 years. He never stopped running the Donald Segretti wing of the right. I agree with the notion that DU and FR are controlled opposition, but the tilt of DU in matters of 9-11 or of AIPAC's agenda seems distinct. It's no secret that AIPAC is the most feared lobby inside the beltway. Their people are everywhere. You can't attend a fundraiser without running into several of them. They're bright, charming, usually young people, and they're pushing their relationships to yield benefits later. AIPAC has already tied down to its agenda the top three Democratic candidate for president.
Um, I gave some money to Ron Paul a few years back. No, wait, that doesn't count.
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
#2. To: robin. ..., Minerva, Morgana Le Fay, bluedogtxn (#1)
#3. To: christine (#2)
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#4. To: robin (#1)
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#5. To: robin (#1)
#6. To: robin, christine, aristeides, Ferret Mike (#0)
#7. To: who knows what evil, christine (#3)
4um is one of the few forums left which isn't controlled.
#8. To: robin (#0)
It can assuredly be said that WMR controls its own content and, although we have received demands that certain information be removed, we have often responded to such requests with a hearty "drop dead," whether the requests come from Saudi billionaire sheiks, U.S. defense contractors who torture prisoners, or Israeli right-wing expansionists.
#9. To: all (#0)
Well, I might as well jump off the cliff into the cold, deep water of this grotto.
#10. To: Paul Revere (#9)
#11. To: Zipporah (#10)
save this one :P.. it's controlled opposition IMO..
#12. To: Paul Revere (#9)
#13. To: robin (#0)
#14. To: christine (#12)
#15. To: Paul Revere (#11)
#16. To: Paul Revere (#11)
#17. To: Paul Revere (#14)
#18. To: christine (#16)
Controlled opposition = deceptively appearing to be opposition when in fact the two sides are confederates working for the same goal.
#19. To: christine (#2)
4um is one of the few forums left which isn't controlled.
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