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Title: 9/11 Pentagon Explosion:9:45 AM
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_g1buWhAA
Published: Apr 9, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-04-09 19:31:02 by honway
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#5. To: honway (#0)

That video appears to show an explosion some time after the initial attack, whatever it was.

There is a great video by pilots for truth which examines the flight data info, and suggests that the airplane did not hit the Pentagon. It suggests that a winged missile was dropped by the large aircraft, which never got below about 300-400 feet.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-09   19:49:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Paul Revere (#5)

There is a great video by pilots for truth which examines the flight data info, and suggests that the airplane did not hit the Pentagon. It suggests that a winged missile was dropped by the large aircraft, which never got below about 300-400 feet.

To be clear,individuals making claims concerning the data from the flight data recorder need to start by stating if they believe the FDR data is fake or real.

If the data is fake, you cannot make any conclusions based on fake data other than the data is fake.

If the data is real, then the plane equipped with the FDR crashed into the Pentagon.

It is absolute nonsense for any rational person to say the FDR data proves a plane did not crash into the Pentagon.You can attempt to make the case that data is fake, but you cannot use data that has been established as fake to prove what happened.

honway  posted on  2007-04-09   20:10:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: honway (#8)

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

03/26/07

PILOTS FOR 9/11 TRUTH http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org

Contact: Robert Balsamo e-mail: pilots@pilotsfor911truth.org

OFFICIAL ACCOUNT OF 9/11 FLIGHT CONTRADICTED BY GOVERNMENT'S OWN DATA Pilots for 9/11 Truth, an international organization of pilots and aviation professionals, petitioned the National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB) via the Freedom of Information Act to obtain their 2002 report, "Flight Path Study-American Airlines Flight 77", consisting of a Comma Separated Value (CSV) file and Flight Path Animation, allegedly derived from Flight 77's Flight Data Recorder (FDR).

The data provided by the NTSB contradict the 9/11 Commission Report in several significant ways:

The NTSB Flight Path Animation approach path and altitude does not support official events. All Altitude data shows the aircraft at least 300 feet too high to have struck the light poles. The rate of descent data is in direct conflict with the aircraft being able to impact the light poles and be captured in the Dept of Defense "5 Frames" video of an object traveling nearly parallel with the Pentagon lawn. The record of data stops at least one second prior to official impact time. If data trends are continued, the aircraft altitude would have been at least 100 feet too high to have hit the Pentagon. In August, 2006, members of Pilots for 9/11 Truth received these documents from the NTSB and began a close analysis of the data they contain. After expert review and cross check, Pilots for 9/11 Truth has concluded that the information in these NTSB documents does not support, and in some instances factually contradicts, the official government position that American Airlines Flight 77 struck the Pentagon on the morning of September 11, 2001.

According to the 9/11 Commission Report, which relied heavily upon the NTSB Flight Path Study, American Airlines Flight 77 struck the Pentagon at 9:37:46 AM on the morning of September 11, 2001. However, the reported impact time according to the NTSB Flight Path Study is 09:37:45. Also according to reports, American Airlines Flight 77 struck the Pentagon and by doing so, struck down 5 light poles on Highway 27 in its path to the west wall.

The information provided by the NTSB does not support the 9/11 Commission Report of American Airlines Flight 77 impact with the Pentagon.

Pilots for 9/11 Truth is committed to discovering the truth surrounding the events of September 11, 2001. We have contacted both the NTSB and the FBI regarding these and other inconsistencies. To date, they have refused to comment on, correct, refute, retract or offer side-letters that might explain the discrepancies between what they claim are the data extracted from the FDR of AA Flight 77 and the official story alleging its crash into the Pentagon.

As concerned citizens and professionals in the aviation industry, Pilots for 9/11 Truth asks, why have these discrepancies not been addressed by agencies within the United States Government? Why have they falsely represented their own data to the American people? Pilots for 9/11 Truth takes the position that an official government inquiry into these discrepancies is warranted and long overdue. We call upon our fellow citizens to write to their Congressional representatives to inform them of these discrepancies and call for an immediate investigation into this matter. For more information please visit http://pilotsfor911truth.org.

Signed:

Robert Balsamo 4000+ Total Flight Time Former: Independence Air/Atlantic Coast Airlines

Glen Stanish 15,000+ Total Flight Time American Airlines, ATA, TWA, Continental

Captain Russ Wittenberg (ret) 30,000+ Total Flight Time Former Pan Am, United United States Air Force (ret) Over 100 Combat Missions Flown

John Lear Son of Bill Lear Founder, creator of the Lear Jet Corporation More than 40 years of Flying 19,000+ Total Flight Time

Captain Jeff Latas USAF (ret) Captain - JetBlue Airways

Ted Muga Naval Aviator - Retired Commander, USNR

Col Robert Bowman USAF (ret) Directed all the ?Star Wars? programs under Presidents Ford and Carter - 101 combat missions

Alfons Olszewski Founder Veterans For Truth US Army (ret) Aircraft Maintenance Crew Chief Robin Hordon Former Boston Center Controller Commercial Pilot

John Panarelli Friend and fellow aviator of John Ogonowski - Capt. AA #11 11,000+ Total Flight Time Eastern Metro, Braniff, Ryan International, Emery Worldwide, Polar Air Cargo

Lt. Colonel Shelton F. Lankford United States Marine Corps (ret) 10,000+ Total Flight Time 303 Combat Missions

Captain Dan Govatos 10,000+ Total Flight Time Former Chief Pilot of Casino Express airlines Director of Operations Training at Polar Air

George Nelson Colonel USAF (Ret.) Licensed Commercial Pilot and Aircraft Mechanic

Dennis Spear Army Aviator (ret) 7000+ Total Flight Time Operations Officer, Aviation Safety Officer

Captain Joe H. Ferguson 30,000+ Total Flight Time (ret) USAF (ret)

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-09   20:53:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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