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Title: 9/11 Pentagon Explosion:9:45 AM
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_g1buWhAA
Published: Apr 9, 2007
Author: youtube
Post Date: 2007-04-09 19:31:02 by honway
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#5. To: honway (#0)

That video appears to show an explosion some time after the initial attack, whatever it was.

There is a great video by pilots for truth which examines the flight data info, and suggests that the airplane did not hit the Pentagon. It suggests that a winged missile was dropped by the large aircraft, which never got below about 300-400 feet.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-09   19:49:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Paul Revere (#5)

There is a great video by pilots for truth which examines the flight data info, and suggests that the airplane did not hit the Pentagon. It suggests that a winged missile was dropped by the large aircraft, which never got below about 300-400 feet.

To be clear,individuals making claims concerning the data from the flight data recorder need to start by stating if they believe the FDR data is fake or real.

If the data is fake, you cannot make any conclusions based on fake data other than the data is fake.

If the data is real, then the plane equipped with the FDR crashed into the Pentagon.

It is absolute nonsense for any rational person to say the FDR data proves a plane did not crash into the Pentagon.You can attempt to make the case that data is fake, but you cannot use data that has been established as fake to prove what happened.

honway  posted on  2007-04-09   20:10:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: honway (#8) (Edited)

Well, that's your opinion, but it's not factually accurate.

The flight data recorder can be accurate, and still be deceptive, if not properly understood. I suggest you watch the entire video, then you'll understand why the airplane did not hit the Pentagon. In summary, at zero altitude on the flight data recorder, the airplane was still at 300 feet.

The process is explained in detail in the video by the 911 pilots for truth. It takes time, but if you're interested in being informed, it's the only way to go. It takes 6-7 minutes to get going, but once the animation begins, it's good.

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs5ax_r0Zn8

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-09   20:47:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Paul Revere (#12)

Do you believe the FDR data is fake or is it real?

honway  posted on  2007-04-09   20:57:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: honway (#15)

Watch the video and you'll have your answer.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-09   21:00:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Paul Revere (#16)

Watch the video and you'll have your answer

Do you believe the FDR data is fake or is it real?

You are the only one on the planet that can answer my question.

honway  posted on  2007-04-09   21:03:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: honway (#17)

Then get ready to be in suspense, because I don't play the silly games that your kind of debate entails.

I've told you what I think. If you're too unmotivated to actually study the issue, if you need a world of absolutes, you're barking up the wrong tree.

I talk about the events of 9-11 to promote inquiry. I'm not going to get sidetracked with a pointless banter over your pet method of arguing.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-09   21:11:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Paul Revere, honway (#18)

Are these Pentagon workers bunching up to hide the wing end from on-lookers?

Compare the people in this photo, especially the guy in suspenders, and the carriers of the tarp covered aircraft part in the next photo:

(Note - Can this small group of men, some middle-aged and paunchy, carry the entire wing end of an A-3 over their shoulders like this? Or, could they be carrying something else entirely...perhaps some debris with human remains or blood all over it? Or some piece of classified material? We may never know the truth. -ed)

The Blue tarp photo was first posted on a military server but NOW even it is gone as the link to it is dead. The Power Hour first brought this photo to light, one of many of their 9/11 Firsts:

We contributed to their superb In Plane Site videos:

http://www.policestate21.com/

http://www.rense.com/general70/tarp.htm

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-04-09   21:28:48 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#19)

I have seen those photos before, and I agree that they are hiding something.

The lack of debris suggests that something a lot smaller than a large commerical airliner hit the Pentagon.

There are missiles that deploy from large aircraft, and upon deploying, have wings that pop out. They look very much like a small airplane, perhaps a private jet, and have a small engine of the type actually found at the Pentagon.

No large engines were found anywhere in the Pentagon.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-09   21:40:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Paul Revere, ALL (#22)

The lack of debris suggests that something a lot smaller than a large commerical airliner hit the Pentagon.

There was debris all over the site, Paul. Some of it identifiable as coming from a plane of the same type as Flight 77. But most of the plane penetrated the building and was exposed to the intense fires within. Do you know how hot ASCE engineers say the damage to reinforced concrete columns indicate the fires got?

There are missiles that deploy from large aircraft, and upon deploying, have wings that pop out.

100 foot wings? ROTFLOL!

have a small engine of the type actually found at the Pentagon. No large engines were found anywhere in the Pentagon.

FALSE. Completely false.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml

Even the conspiracy sites admit this:

http://www.911-strike.com/engines.htm "The plane debris observed in the various photographs does indeed comport with that of a 757, at least to the limited degree with which they can be compared to actual 757 parts or the manufacturer's detail drawings, as shown above. The engine compressor or turbine disk appears to be approximately the correct diameter to have been used in a Rolls Royce RB211-535E4B engine, as used in American Airlines 757 aircraft. The fragment of the high pressure combustor casing also comports with the string of fuel inlet nozzle holes, the mounting bosses of which have the correct number of screw holes (6). The combustor is definitely not from a Pratt and Whitney PW2037, which is the other make of 757 engine used in the airline industry, nor is it from a General Electric CF6-80C2. Some observers have claimed that these engine parts are too small to have come from a 757. The confusion is because the RB-211 engine configuration is dominated by the large turbofan at the front of the engine, which is what people expect a 757 engine should look like. However, because the RB-211 is a "high bypass" engine, the high-pressure compressor, combustion chamber and turbine are all much smaller than the turbofan, as shown in the small overview figure at the top left of the drawing. It is perfectly reasonable to ask what happened to the turbofan -- but the compressor disk and the combustor case do look like 757 parts."

It really would do you good to look at this, Paul:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21568_The_Pentagon_Attack_Simulation&only

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-10   14:06:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: BeAChooser (#48)

everything you write here is suspect - because you are a TREASONOUS QUEER!

Red Jones  posted on  2007-04-10   14:20:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Red Jones (#54)

because you are a TREASONOUS QUEER!

LOL

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-04-10   14:21:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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