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Title: What Do Muslims Want?
Source: National Review
URL Source: http://article.nationalreview.com/? ... hlYzEwYzkwYzc3YTQ2OWQxMjJhMTE=
Published: Apr 9, 2007
Author: Raymond Ibrahim
Post Date: 2007-04-10 03:29:47 by mirage
Keywords: None
Views: 1100
Comments: 82

All humans generally live according to some set of priorities. A person may make a priority of health, of pleasure, of study, of almost anything, really. But it is practically a law of nature that a person must make a priority of something. Even those who lead unstructured existences unconsciously live according to some set of unarticulated priorities, if only according to something so basic as the primal need for food, drink, and shelter.

For many people, religious practice — striving to obey God’s commandments — is a high priority, the highest, even. Yet this priority can come into conflict with the character of the society in which one lives. This is undoubtedly the case for devout Muslims who voluntarily relocate to Western nations. This invariably will compromise what many of them profess to be their ultimate priority: living in accordance to the divine laws of Allah (i.e., sharia — most of which is derived from the words and deeds of seventh-century Mohammad).

Some of these Muslims arrive in the West and don’t want to compromise. Consider some recent news stories:

A few Muslim cashiers working at Target stores in Minneapolis are refusing to scan customer purchases that may contain pork. Instead of swiping the products themselves — which is their job — they are inconveniencing the customers or fellow employees by having them do it.

Muslim cab drivers have long been discriminating against customers carrying or suspected of carrying alcohol. Officials at the St. Paul International Airport estimate that, on average, alcohol-bearing customers seeking cab rides are denied 77 times per month. Some blind customers have also been turned down on account of their seeing-eye dogs.

Muslims in Seattle have requested (and been granted) regularly scheduled hours for their exclusive use of public pools; an all-Muslim-girls basketball team at a Chicago university demanded that men be barred from attending their matches; some 200 Muslim women signed a petition at a Michigan fitness center demanding separate workout times for men and women, or at least the erection of a screen divider between the men’s and women’s section (which was granted).

All of these issues revolve around the Muslim desire to live according to Allah’s laws — which, among other things, ban contact with pigs, dogs, and alcohol, and have rigid social guidelines, especially concerning interaction between the sexes. From a religious point of view, the anti-social behavior of these Muslims can be, if not excused, then certainly understood. They are doing only what their religion commands them to do. And their refusal to compromise on these points demonstrates that adherence to the commandments of Islam is a priority of the utmost importance to them.

However, if living in strict accordance to sharia is the first priority of some Muslims, one wonders: Why have they voluntarily come and immersed themselves in infidel countries that do not recognize sharia law and, indeed, allow many things that run counter to it, such as the selling and consumption of alcohol and pork and the liberal intermingling of the sexes? Most of the Muslim countries that Muslims abandon for the West are much more conducive to the Muslim lifestyle and uphold many if not all aspects of sharia law. Yet, each year, thousands of supposedly “ultra-devout” Muslims forsake these countries and, of their own free will, come and surround themselves with wine-imbibing, swine-eating libertines. Why?

It is for the same reason that everyone else comes to the West — for the “good life.” They come in order to be prosperous and to enjoy opportunities, security, and equality the likes of which they could never have in their own countries (ruled quite often — no surprise — according to sharia). The vast majority of Muslims emigrating from the Islamic world do not leave due to necessity — say, oppression or starvation. No, they come to the infidel West solely to prosper materially.

But why are Muslims of the “ultra-pious” variety seeking after material comfort in the first place — especially when doing so will almost certainly undermine their professed desire to live strictly according to the sharia? Coming to live in a democratic country composed of some 300 million infidels is bound to affect any Muslim’s observance of sharia. These pious Muslims risk coming into daily contact with, not only pork, alcohol, and dogs, but all sorts of other defilements: flamboyant homosexuals, scantily clad women (who are often in positions of authority!), gamblers and usurers, to name a few. Are they not concerned that they, or especially their children, might become contaminated by the licentious and seductive practices of the infidel West? If their priority is truly to strictly follow sharia, should they not remain in their Muslim countries of origin, which, if not as prosperous as the West, are definitely more conducive to the Muslim lifestyle?

Or, could it be that, despite all the ruckus (and subsequent headlines) made by these Muslims, living in accordance to Allah and his sharia is not their first priority, after all? At least, not to the degree that they would be unwilling to put this priority at substantial risk for the sake of living the good life, in a strictly secular and materialistic sense.

Furthermore, if common sense does not dissuade them from relocating to the West, the very sharia they claim to want to closely observe should. For instance, if pork and alcohol are condemned (e.g., Koran 5:4; 2:219), voluntarily living among infidels, idolaters, and atheists is looked on no better. The Koran declares: “O you who believe! Take neither Jews nor Christians as friends…whoever among you turns to them is one of them” (5:51).

There are countless verses and traditions, in fact, that make it clear that Muslims are to be in a constant state of animosity toward non-Muslims, waging war through tongue and teeth in order to spread Islam, and, when finally in a position of superiority, discriminating against those who refuse to convert (see, for example, 3:28, 5:73, 5:17, 9:5, 9:25, etc). When the Meccans persisted in their unbelief, refusing to accept the prophet-hood — and subsequent authority — of Mohammad, he finally abandoned his kinsfolk with these parting words, which some Muslims believe still define the proper relationship between Muslims and non-Muslims: “We [Muslims] disown you [non-Muslims] and what you worship besides Allah. We renounce you. Enmity and hate shall forever reign between us — until you believe in Allah alone!” (60:40).

So why are some Muslims making public scenes here in the United States over scanning bacon or transporting customers with sealed bottles of wine in their luggage while at the same time freely choosing to live with — and of course benefit from — those whom they are commanded to hate and wage war upon, or at the very least, disavow and be clean of?

“Straining out a gnat while swallowing a camel” has long been a sure sign of hypocrisy. All Muslims who freely migrate to the West must understand that they can’t have it both ways — that they can’t have their cake and eat it, too. They must choose between either strictly upholding the laws and customs of 7th-century Arabia (in which case they should remain in their “sharia friendly” countries of origin) or, if prosperity and comfort is their first choice, let them relocate to the West, but prepare to assimilate — that is, compromise — to some degree. It’s a simple question of priorities.


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#12. To: mirage, Diana, Burkeman1, IndieTX, Yertle Turtle, noone222 (#0) (Edited)

All Muslims who freely migrate to the West must understand that they can’t have it both ways — that they can’t have their cake and eat it, too. They must choose between either strictly upholding the laws and customs of 7th-century Arabia (in which case they should remain in their “sharia friendly” countries of origin) or, if prosperity and comfort is their first choice, let them relocate to the West, but prepare to assimilate — that is, compromise — to some degree. It’s a simple question of priorities.

The American Orthodox Jewish community asks for accommodation and usually gets it.

I'm sure you all know what an "eruv" is, right?

Santa Monica, CA recently agreed to erect an eruv so Jewish folks can enjoy the beach while following the holy commandment to "remain in their homes" (wink wink) on the sabbath!

The study included the possibility that an eruv wire could prove hazardous to birds, but the "community" is willing to pay to minimize the risk. Of course if it becomes apparent that the risk cannot be completely eliminated or even minimized to acceptable levels, then the birds will have perish so Jews can go to the beach while remaining in their homes!(?) "NEWS FLASH! MAN EATEN BY SHARK IN HIS HOME (SORTA) ON SABBATH!"

The day I see a news article that juxtaposes Muslims asking for accommodation along side the actual numbers and locations of existing eruvs in the country, then I'll consider the proper groundwork for fair discussion to be in place.

Until then it's just another anti-Muslim hit piece. In fact if Jewish taxi drivers found it objectionable to transport liquor or seeing eye animal companions, they'd probably be permitted to discriminate.

Senor Yertle is correct too. If every cab on the airport stand is operated by an observant Muslim (and that is not only possible but on some days quite likely) then the effect is all customers observe sharia whether or not they are Muslim unless steps are taken to minimize abuse, such as firing the drivers. But, in the interest of balance ask yourselves this: What are the odds that a law would be passed to minimize abuse by religious Jews, or that a cab company would fire a Jew for such abuse of customers?

And, how would those Muslim taxi drivers like it if there are special cab stands for customers who simply don't want to patronize schmucky Arabs? Imagine walking out of an airport terminal and seeing signs that read "Muslim taxis to the left others to the right"? How would observant Muslims feel about that, especially if news stories portrayed them as intolerant religious zealots and every non Muslim customer avoided them?

They'd better be careful what they wish for because they may get it, and all that comes with it!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-04-10   6:46:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: HOUNDDAWG (#12)

In fact if Jewish taxi drivers found it objectionable to transport liquor or seeing eye animal companions, they'd probably be permitted to discriminate.

I actually knew some Jewish cab drivers (yes, Jews drive taxis). They never discriminated. None of us did, except when we thought the pick-up was dangerous.

We had some Muslim drivers, too. They didn't discriminate, either. For one thing, they would have been fired for refusing to pick up a seeing-eye dog, or take someone who had booze in their groceries.

There is also the fact the other drivers would have given them a really hard time. Very hard.

Years ago, two American drivers were sitting in my back seat. Each weighed about 250 pounds. There was a tiny little Eithopian driver inbetween them, whose nickname was "Itty-Bitty." I looked at him, grinned at the drivers, and suggested we should cook and eat Itty-Bitty, although he wouldn't make much of a meal. He knew we were joking, but he was a little afraid of us.

Generally, we policed ourselves. What's happening at that airport is a failure of everyone involved to police the situation. The other drivers, the government -- everyone.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-04-10   7:11:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: YertleTurtle, mirage, Diana, Burkeman1, IndieTX, noone222 (#13)

I actually knew some Jewish cab drivers (yes, Jews drive taxis). They never discriminated. None of us did, except when we thought the pick-up was dangerous.

Danny Glover's campaign in NYC was because blacks have trouble flagging cabs but, most people don't understand that nig....I mean, African Americans don't tip and they commit the majority of assaults and robberies.

If I saw an eekwal waiting to head up to 139th street and a businessman with luggage I'd take the airport run over the Harlem trip.

Could you blame me? Even if I don't get tipped at the airport (which is unlikely unless that passenger is black too) I probably wouldn't be robbed or murdered when I arrive. But, Harlem is dangerous and the cops attitude seems to be, "Hey you drive a cab so you should expect it".

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-04-10   11:14:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: HOUNDDAWG (#24)

most people don't understand that nig....I mean, African Americans

I gotta wonder what is wrong with you. Did your parents drop you on your head? Were you raised in some throwback hillbilly white trash Atlanta Ghetto?

What on earth makes you think that posting "nig... I mean African Americans" is going to gain you anything but scorn from anyone anywhere?

This is just flamebait from a keyboard bigot who wouldn't have the courage to say something so deeply offensive in front of his target audience. I'm embarrassed for you.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-10   12:03:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: bluedogtxn, Zipporah, christine, rowdee, robin, lodwick, Diana, Minerva, Jethro Tull, Tauzero (#30) (Edited)

most people don't understand that nig....I mean, African Americans

I gotta wonder what is wrong with you. Did your parents drop you on your head? Were you raised in some throwback hillbilly white trash Atlanta Ghetto?

What on earth makes you think that posting "nig... I mean African Americans" is going to gain you anything but scorn from anyone anywhere?

This is just flamebait from a keyboard bigot who wouldn't have the courage to say something so deeply offensive in front of his target audience. I'm embarrassed for you.

Your shrieks of simulated outrage are duly noted, counselor.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-04-10   15:00:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: HOUNDDAWG (#45)

Your shrieks of simulated outrage are duly noted, counselor.

So is your ridiculous race-baiting bullshit, Klansman.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-10   15:04:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: bluedogtxn, Zipporah, christine, rowdee, robin, lodwick, Diana, Minerva, Jethro Tull, Tauzero (#46)

Your shrieks of simulated outrage are duly noted, counselor.

So is your ridiculous race-baiting bullshit, Klansman.

free speech on 4

Tell me, do you agree with christine's post or not?

Your reply will go a long way as a qualifier when you lecture us on the lost principles of Americanism.

And, for the sake of argument, what will you do when someday your skin color is your uniform, and all those soul bruthas you railroaded into prison don't think of you as fondly as you do them?

I hope you have some young, juicy daughters to give them to prove your bone fides. Otherwise, you'll be classified as just another hypocritical "liberal" who doesn't mind throwing welfare and food stamps (and public defenders) at them but don't want them to move in next door or marry your daughter(s).

(PS: This is your cue to piously proclaim that you wouldn't mind if your daughter marries a darkie. Please do that for me, will you? I ddouble ddawg ddare you! HAH!)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-04-10   16:16:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#55. To: HOUNDDAWG (#53)

Tell me, do you agree with christine's post or not?

"Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the three contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another."

Absolutely. But if you are foolish enough to think that you can drop N-bombs here and not encounter a "challenge, debate, argument" with your use of them, you are out of your mind.

you ask: "What will you do when someday your skin color is your uniform, and all those soul bruthas you railroaded into prison don't think of you as fondly as you do them?"

Are you nuts? Are you predicting the takeover of America by "soul-bruthas" and "darkies"? Because that's just more silly, reactionary racist crap. The "darkies" have about as much chance of taking over as the Chinese do, which is nil. If you want to fear someone because of their ethnicity, you'd do better to fear Hispanics, frankly.

You say that: "This is your cue to piously proclaim that you wouldn't mind if your daughter marries a darkie. Please do that for me, will you? I ddouble ddawg ddare you! HAH!" and that this is my cue to "prove my liberal credentials".

Okay, I'll take that dare. If my daughter marries a "darkie" and he's smart, ambitious, going somewhere, and treats her and my wife and the rest of my family with respect, I'll support the marriage 100%. If he's ignorant, going nowhere, close minded or an anti-Christian, then I'll oppose it. And I don't care how white, smart, ambitious or pious he is, if he drops a single N-bomb in my house or in front of me, I'll vehemently oppose the marriage.

Because that's a word that was vile in Mark Twain's day no less than it is vile today, and anyone who thinks it is appropriate usage is an idiot, be he black, white or whatever.

And I have two young, fine, beautiful and intelligent daughters, neither one of whom is "juicy". And anyone who'd call them juicy to my face would get a definite and unmistakeable response.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-10 16:47:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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