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Title: William Rodriquez Website (911 Hero)
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://william911.com/
Published: Apr 10, 2007
Author: n/a
Post Date: 2007-04-10 14:49:01 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 3072
Comments: 85

William Rodriguez, is a native of Puerto Rico, a citizen of the United States, and a resident of the State of New Jersey. On September 11, 2001, and for approximately nineteen years prior thereto, Rodriguez was employed as a maintenance worker at the World Trade Center (WTC) in New York, New York. On 9/11, Rodriguez single-handedly rescued fifteen (15) persons from the WTC, and as Rodriguez was the only person at the site with the master key to the North Tower stairwells, he bravely led firefighters up the stairwell, unlocking doors as they ascended, thereby aiding in the successful evacuation of unknown hundreds of those who survived. Rodriguez, at great risk to his own life, re-entered the Towers three times after the first, North Tower impact at about 8:46 A.M., and is believed to be the last person to exit the North Tower alive, surviving the building's collapse by diving beneath a fire truck. After receiving medical attention at the WTC site for his injuries, Rodriguez spent the rest of 9/11 aiding as a volunteer in the rescue efforts, and at dawn the following morning, was back at Ground Zero continuing his heroic efforts. Rodriguez lost his employment of 19 years and his means of earning a living as a direct result of the attacks on the WTC on 9/11. Deeply affected, as one might imagine, by his experiences of 9/11, Rodriguez has, in a variety of capacities and through several different organizations, worked ever since that terrible day to help others who were affected by the atrocities committed. He has continued in these labors, notwithstanding the fact that, due to the loss of his employment, he has been unable to earn a living, and was even homeless for a time. (1 image)

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#23. To: Red Jones (#21)

Some of them are complicit, not deceived.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-04-11   11:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Trace21231, Diana (#20)

thanks for showing us that yet more evidence on BAC Trace.

We need more Honest Queers in this world and fewer TREASONOUS QUEERS! BAC is a TREASONOUS QUEER! he's in the closet and should come out. He's one of those covert Republican gay blades who won't come out of which we've been speaking.

I used to read everything he posts and all his links too. I was convinced that he was a genius. But when I learned that he was in the closet and wouldn't come out I knew that he was untrustworthy and a TREASONOUS QUEER!

No more will I ever trust again whatever he says.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-04-11   11:23:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Red Jones (#24)

Check out this one.

#47. To: pink_fuzzy_guy (#16)

You mentioned your tattoos. I am considering having a large red "W" tattooed on the right cheek of my posterior. I think my special friend Theodore will find this exciting. How painful is this procedure?

BeAChooser posted on 2006-12-15 21:11:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

It's not queer when Republicans do it.

Trace21231  posted on  2007-04-11   15:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Red Jones, ALL (#5)

William Rodriguez is a hero.

I didn't say he wasn't.

What I said is that he's been taken advantage of by his lying lawyer (and the *Truth* movement).

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-11   15:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Paul Revere, ALL (#6)

His is certain that explosions took place low in the WTC before the first plane hit.

Actually, that's not what he's said.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-11   15:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Red Jones, ALL (#7)

But they censored his story about him personally witnessing 2 bombs going off inside the buildings.

He didn't "witness" bombs going off, Red.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-11   15:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine, ALL (#10)

Arator, Artisan, Kamala, my husband, and I have met him in person when we attendede Alex Jones' and Charlie Sheen's 911 Conference in LA last June.

Verrrry Interrrestingggg!!! ROTFLOL!

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-11   15:33:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Trace21231, ALL (#20)

Here is BeAChooser's post from the Log Cabin forum.

You have a link to that post you made up? Bet you don't.

But this proves you are typical of 4um posters.

And that's not a compliment.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-11   15:35:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: BeAChooser (#30)

You have a link to that post you made up? Bet you don't.

Rodney said I could post links if you emailed Log Cabin and rescinded your no link rule.

It's not queer when Republicans do it.

Trace21231  posted on  2007-04-11   15:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: BeAChooser (#26)

Red - William Rodriguez is a hero.

BAC - I didn't say he wasn't.

technically you're correct BAC. and I'm sure you know that as well that you're not really against Rodriguez the individual. But we like Rodriguez and we don't like the implication even that he is a fraud.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-04-11   15:45:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: BeAChooser (#27)

His is certain that explosions took place low in the WTC before the first plane hit.

BAC - Actually, that's not what he's said.

BAC, Rodriguez says he witnessed more than one explosion. The first one he says happened about 8-10 seconds BEFORE the first plane impact. You're not even familiar with what Rodriguez says and you're tearing him down.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-04-11   15:47:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: BeAChooser (#28)

He didn't "witness" bombs going off, Red.

In BAC logic a person must have their eyes glued to the actual bomb when it goes off and see it personally explode in order to witness it. Rodriguez witnessed the explosions in that he heard them, he felt the shaking and he saw the damage to the building and the injured people even. I don't care about splitting hairs.

This demonstrates why I don't normally discuss substance with BAC. It is more productive to merely say that he is a TREASONOUS QUEER! because he can't deny that. we all know it's true.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-04-11   15:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Trace21231 (#31)

your description of BAC's behavior at Log Cabin club definitely rings true with us. That is BAC 4 sure.

He whines, he complains. and he won't even come out of closet and admit he is what he is. TRESONOUS QUEER!

We need more honest Queers on this site. Please stay here Trace and help us.

Just tell us one thing BAC. when you had your date with Jeff Gannon were you the boy or the girl? He never answers - which proves - he is a TREASONOUS QUEER!

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-04-11   15:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: BeAChooser (#29) (Edited)

Verrrry Interrrestingggg!!! ROTFLOL!

you've just about reached your limit with me. your posting status is being downgraded to introductory. use your spam wisely.

christine  posted on  2007-04-11   17:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: BeAChooser (#36)

your posting status is being downgraded to introductory.

ROTFLOL!

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-04-11   17:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: BeAChooser (#29)

Verrrry Interrrestingggg!!! ROTFLOL!

shalom fish breath.

hope you get along with TLBSHOW and ponchy.

"NO ONE has quoted the Constitution or US law as to the form a Declaration of War must take" -- Fish Breath's Famous Red Herring

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-04-11   17:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: BeAChooser (#27) (Edited)

Actually, that's not what he's said.

Is too, is too, is too!

I'd tell you to blow me, but I'm afraid you'd do it.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-11   18:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: BeAChooser (#28)

He didn't "witness" bombs going off, Red.

Yes, he did witness a bomb going off.

Hearing is one of our five senses.

Touch is another of our five senses.

Remember last week when your mommy was explaining "knees and toes" to you?

You see, Bushie, a witness is anyone who has actual knowledge and can testify in a court of law. Mr. Rodriguez is such a witness, because he witnessed (1) the sound, (3) the concussion, and (3) the impact of those concessions.

So you see, you're wrong, and Red is right. Mr. Rodriguez witnessed those events, just as surely as everyone just witnessed me kicking your ass.

PS. Thanks for being a useful foil. I prefer a punching bag, but you were handy.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-11   18:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Red Jones (#19) (Edited)

To: Paul Revere

Frito Bandito himself aka Gonzo the Fergetter

thanks

I make them up and pass them along for use.

Please, borrow any of my insults and use appropriately!

Gonzo better stick to the fifth, like that lawyer who worked for him.

He's already committed perjury before the congress, so he'll just make it worse by trying to explain it away. They tried that with Scooter Libby aka Irving Lewis Liebowitz. I think Bush is going to urge his people to take the fifth.

Goodling is the weak link. She's a babe in the woods who was in way over her head. I wouldn't let her fix a parking ticket.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-11   18:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Red Jones, Paul Revere, ALL (#33)

The first one he says happened about 8-10 seconds BEFORE the first plane impact.

What do you do, Red? Just make up numbers to put into your sentences so they sound more significant? Here is a direct quote from Rodriguez:

http://www.studyof911.com/articles/BsB100106/ "On 9/11, on 8:46, I was at the basement of the North Tower, the first tower to be impacted, the second one to fall. While I was there, a second or two before the plane hit, there was a huge explosion on the sublevel B2 to sublevel B3."

Now if it had really been 8 - 10 seconds, one might be more troubled by Rodriguez's claim. But given all the excitement that day, given all that happened to Rodriguez that day, and given where Rodriguez was located at the time the plane hit (in the basement), I really doubt that he can know for certain that a second or two before the plane hit, there was an explosion in the basement.

He went on to say

"And when I went to verbalize it, we heard the impact of the plane, very far away, coming from the top. So there was a big difference of something coming from the top and something coming from the basement. I mean I worked there for 20 years, I could tell the difference of one thing coming from each side."

The problem is that Rodriguez does not understand sound transmission or the transmission of vibrations. He'd be shocked to find out how fast a blast wave travels (say through an elevator shaft from the impact level to the basement) compared to the speed of sound through air (either inside or outside the building to his location). He'd be shocked to find out how slowly (in comparison to the blast through an elevator) the horizontal oscillations of the structure are transferred from the impact point to the basement.

Now witness testimony tends to change over time, especially when much has happened in the interim and other motives begin to affect the witness' account.

Do you know that initially (on 9/11, in fact, in an interview with CNN) Rodriguez said the following ( http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/new.york.terror/ ): "We heard a loud rumble, then all of a sudden we heard another rumble like someone moving a whole lot of furniture," Rodriguez said. "And then the elevator opened and a man came into our office and all of his skin was off."

There are some subtle but important differences between that account and the one he's telling now. Perhaps he began elaborating once he became a sought after speaker and a plaintiff in a lawsuit?

And many facts are being left out of this story by those pushing Rodriguez as a whistleblower. For example, look at these details about the man with burned skin who came into the office where Rodriguez was immediately afterwards ...

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=7762 "A fellow worker Felipe David came into the office. "He had been standing in front of a freight elevator on sub-level 1 about 400 feet from the office when fire burst out of the elevator shaft, causing his injuries."

That account is completely consistent with the notion that blast, fuel and fire from the impact high above raced down the elevator shaft to the basement level.

The account goes on: "William asks: "How could a jetliner hit 90 floors above and burn a man's arms and face to a crisp in the basement below within seconds of impact?"" Well the answer can be found in basic physics, something I doubt this janitor studied in high school or college.

Do you know that Engineer Mike Pecoraro, who was working in the sixth sub-basement of the north tower, said that after an explosion he and a co-worker went up to the C level, where there was a small machine shop. Mike Pecoraro specifically mentions smelling kerosene after the explosion. In other words ... Jet Fuel ... not explosives.

Consider yourself priveleged. You get to receive one of my rare posts. I've been restricted to only 10 a day by christine. She did it after I laughed when I heard that she, Arator and Kamala met Rodriguez in person at Alex Jones' and Charlie Sheen's 911 Conference. I guess that was nothing to laugh about.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-12   17:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: beachooser, nolu_chan, Robin, Minerva, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#42)

Do you know that Engineer Mike Pecoraro, who was working in the sixth sub-basement of the north tower, said that after an explosion he and a co-worker went up to the C level, where there was a small machine shop. Mike Pecoraro specifically mentions smelling kerosene after the explosion. In other words ... Jet Fuel ... not explosives.

Yeah, BAC, you deceiving piece of shit.

The particular jet fuel (Jet-A) smells like diesel - not the kerosene smell of the military JP-4.

See how you are, BAC? Your information is as queer as you are!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-12   19:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: christine (#36)

It wasn't a matter of when, it wasn't a matter of if, it just was a matter of time.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-04-12   19:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: SKYDRIFTER, ALL (#43)

The particular jet fuel (Jet-A) smells like diesel - not the kerosene smell of the military JP-4.

You claim to have been a commercial jet pilot?

http://www.sinclairoil.com/msds/Jet%20Fuels.pdf "MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET MSDS # F3, SINCLAIR JET FUELS, TRADE NAME: Jet Fuel, APPLICATIONS: Fuel, SYNONYMS: Commercial Jet Fuel, Jet A, Turbine Fuel, Aviation Fuel, JP - 8, ODOR: Kerosene odor"

http://www.usor.com/pdfs/msds/fuels/Jet_Fuel_MSDS.pdf "U. S. OIL & REFINING CO., M A T E R I A L S A F E T Y D A T A S H E E T , Product Name: Jet Fuel, Other Names: Jet Fuel, Kerosene, Jet A (212110), Jet A-1 (212212), Jet A-1 (50) (212211), JP-8 (212130) ... snip ... Kerosene odor."

http://www.aopa.org/pilot/features/mos9702.html "Jet fuel is essentially kerosene and has the same odor."

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Evolution_of_Technology/fuel/Tech21.htm "Commercial jet fuel, known as Jet-A, is pure kerosene"

http://www.nasaexplores.com/show2_articlea.php?id=04-051 "Aircraft then went to using Jet-A commercial jet fuel. It is kerosene-based"

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070310075255AAu0P98&show=7 " There are currently two main grades of turbine fuel in use in civil commercial aviation : Jet A-1 and Jet A, both are kerosene type fuels."

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/pha/fallon/nas_p5.html "many commercial jet fuels today have basically the same composition as kerosene"

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2006-06-20-alternative-jet-fuel_x.htm "Today, most commercial airplanes use a fuel similar to light kerosene."

Consider yourself priveleged. You get to receive one of my rare posts. I've been restricted to only 10 a day by christine. She did it after I laughed when I heard that she, Arator and Kamala met Rodriguez in person at Alex Jones' and Charlie Sheen's 911 Conference. I guess that was nothing to laugh about.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-12   20:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: BeAChooser (#45)

The most common fuel is an unleaded/paraffin oil-based fuel classified as JET A-1, which is produced to an internationally standardized set of specifications. In the United States only, a version of JET A-1 known as JET A is also used. See the section for JET A below.

The only other jet fuel that is commonly used in civilian aviation is called JET B. JET B is a fuel in the naptha-kerosene region that is used for its enhanced cold-weather performance. However, JET B's lighter composition makes it more dangerous to handle, and it is thus restricted only to areas where its cold-weather characteristics are absolutely necessary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel

Oppsie. Guess it ain't kerosene, Irene.

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-12   20:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: beachooser, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#45)

Consider yourself priveleged. You get to receive one of my rare posts. I've been restricted to only 10 a day by christine. She did it after I laughed when I heard that she, Arator and Kamala met Rodriguez in person at Alex Jones' and Charlie Sheen's 911 Conference. I guess that was nothing to laugh about.

Listen-up, asshole; I've been around both for many long years, and I'm here to tell you that Jet-A does NOT smell like kerosene - rather a diesel smell.

Deal with it, you lying piece of shit!

You don't like Christine - or women in general - leave!

Nobody needs someone as queer in mind as preference.

Priveleged to hear from you? NOT! I'll be priveleged to hear that you're leaving - permanently!



SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-12   20:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: BeAChooser (#45)

He's right about the smell. Jet A has a distinct odor that surprised me. I had been a helicopter crewchief in the U.S. Army my first enlistment. I know JP-4 very well and lost an argument myself over the smell of jet fuel several years ago. Drifty is correct, not you.

Nice Googling though, I'll give you that.

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-12   20:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Ferret Mike (#48)

Thanks, Mike.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-12   20:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: SKYDRIFTER (#49)

Not a problem, my pleasure. I had to be aware off the fuel all the time taking regular samples of oil and fuel to send in to be tested.

You had to be sure no water had collected in the bottoms of the fuel bladders of the helicopters we had. And I know how to do a clear and bright check at pre- flight to watch for too much H2O dissolved into the fuel.

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-12   21:17:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: SKYDRIFTER (#43)

See how you are, BAC? Your information is as queer as you are!

BeAChewer is his real name.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-12   23:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: SKYDRIFTER, Ferret Mike (#49)

chooser busted again. it won't matter. he'll stick with his lies no matter what. evil pathological liar.

christine  posted on  2007-04-12   23:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: BeAChooser, Red Jones, Paul Revere, ALL (#42)

[BAC] The problem is that Rodriguez does not understand sound transmission or the transmission of vibrations. He'd be shocked to find out how fast a blast wave travels (say through an elevator shaft from the impact level to the basement) compared to the speed of sound through air (either inside or outside the building to his location). He'd be shocked to find out how slowly (in comparison to the blast through an elevator) the horizontal oscillations of the structure are transferred from the impact point to the basement.


Did the WTC towers have elevator shafts that went from the impact level to the basement, or did the WTC towers have elevator shafts comprised of three distinct vertical assemblies?

Was there any elevator shaft above the 74th floor Skylobby that went lower than the 74th floor?

If a blast wave entered an elevator shaft above the 74th floor, would one be shocked to find out how slowly the wave traveled from the 74th floor to the basement?

What is the approximate speed of a blast wave traveling through an elevator shaft that does not exist?

If a blast wave traveled down an elevator shaft, why did the it not blow the 74th floor apart instead of the basement?

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Link

The building has three vertical zones; express elevators serve skylobbies at the forty-first and seventy-fourth floors; from these, and from the plaza level, four banks of local elevators carry passengers to each of the three zones.

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Link

Image:World Trade Center Building Design with Floor and Elevator Arrangment.svg

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WTC-1 North Tower

Link

At 8:46 AM, a jet, apparently Flight 11, slammed into the northeast face of the tower, creating an impact hole that extended from the 92nd to 98th floors.

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WTC-2 South Tower

Link

At 9:03 AM, a jet, apparently Flight 175, slammed into the southwest face of the tower, creating an impact hole that extended from the 78th to 84th floors.

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nolu_chan  posted on  2007-04-12   23:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: SKYDRIFTER (#47)

Listen-up, asshole; I've been around both for many long years, and I'm here to tell you that Jet-A does NOT smell like kerosene - rather a diesel smell.

BeAChooser has been throwing a hissey over on Log Cabin all day. He is now restricted to 12 posts per day here and that is why he is in a bad mood. Look what he said earlier.

#61. To: Muscle Butt (#7)

So what? The 4dummers now have me limited to 12 posts per day and are calling me gay because I post on Log Cabin.

The gay thing is outrageous. I'm a regular family man and probably don't blow a guy more than a couple of times a month.

BeAChooser posted on 2007-04-12 8:37:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

It's not queer when Republicans do it.

Trace21231  posted on  2007-04-12   23:19:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: nolu_chan (#53)

kudos. yet again.

christine  posted on  2007-04-12   23:23:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: BeAChooser (#42)

Consider yourself priveleged. You get to receive one of my rare posts. I've been restricted to only 10 a day by christine. She did it after I laughed when I heard that she, Arator and Kamala met Rodriguez in person at Alex Jones' and Charlie Sheen's 911 Conference. I guess that was nothing to laugh about.

Maybe if you opus over it Christine will be seized by guilt and suffer horribly.

I think you should try it.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-04-12   23:52:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Trace21231 (#54)

The gay thing is outrageous. I'm a regular family man and probably don't blow a guy more than a couple of times a month.

BeAChooser posted on 2007-04-12 8:37:29 ET

BAC: "When I built a small dog house for the kids, no one called me a carpenter. When I fixed the toilet, no one said I was a plumber. But suck one dick, and everyone thinks you're queer."

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-12   23:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: nolu_chan (#53)

Nice job.

I believe the operation was run out of WTC7. That's why they got everyone out of WTC7 that morning, and that's why it was the last thing to go. Once the two towers were down, the job became to sanitize the crime scene by exploding and collapsing it.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-12   23:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: nolu_chan, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#53)

There was a single express elevator that did go from bottom to top, but it's naive to think that any amount of burning jet fuel would make it down the shaft - and leave no trace of smoke/soot in the lobby.

The Naudet brothers' tape made it clear that there was no fire damage or indication in the lobby. However there were people burned at the lower levels - there's the mystery.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-13   0:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: SKYDRIFTER (#59)

That's correct. One elevator shaft stopped went to all three levels, but the others did not. If the jet fuel causing the delayed explosions were valid, we would have seen bigger secondary explosions higher in the buildings and sooner than in the lobby.

The crash triggered a timetable for additional explosions, set off in the melee which followed.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-13   0:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: christine (#52)

BAC doesn't know when to quit, when it comes to insulting you and this forum. I maintain a low opinion of him, but I wouldn't have expected to see him go that far. He won't come back on me with insults, but he goes after you - must be his queeriness.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-13   0:59:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Paul Revere (#60)

The burn victims discovered in the lobby might have encountered explosives or whatever form of thermal devices in the lower floors. I don't know if they even survived.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-13   1:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: BeAChooser (#45)

Do you post as boloboffin at DU? You sure sound like that loser.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-13   1:01:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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