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Title: BLOOD IN THE WATER; Right-wing talk shows next...
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Neal Boortz
URL Source: http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html
Published: Apr 12, 2007
Author: Neal Boortz
Post Date: 2007-04-12 13:59:49 by Brian S
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Liberals see this whole Imus situation as a way to rid themselves of the problem of talk radio. Now that they've succeeded in getting MSNBC to pull Imus' program, they'll concentrate on CBS .. trying to get the radio show cancelled. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they succeed. Then they will turn their attention to the rest of us. The tape recorders will be running. There is not one single significant right-of-center radio talk show out there that is not going to come under fire. Liberals know -- they've proven it to themselves -- that they simply cannot succeed in talk radio. So, it's all very simple. If they can't succeed, destroy the genre. Their original plan was to wait until Democrats control the congress and the White House and then murder talk radio with the so-called "Fairness Doctrine." Now that they're on the verge of having a talk radio scalp on their belts as retribution for a bad and mean-spirited joke, they see that they may not have to wait for the electorate to give them the power. In the meantime... while the race industry is calling for the head of Don Imus, we have Crystal Gail Mangum of North Carolina. Who is she? She is the woman who falsely accused three members of the Duke lacrosse team of rape. Her unsubstantiated charges resulted in a media firestorm against Duke University and these lacrosse players. Would you like to spend a few moments comparing the effect of Mangum's charges on the Duke lacrosse team and Imus' words on the Rutgers woman's basketball team? Sure! Why not! Now, let's see ...... The remainder of the Duke lacrosse season was cancelled. They were nationally ranked, and had to forfeit the rest of their games. The coach, Mike Pressler, resigned. "Mug shots" of the lacrosse players were posted on campus. Mark Anthony Neal, an African Studies professor on the campus said that this was "a case of racialized sexual violence." A Durham, N.C. resident called it "racial terrorism." In the middle of all of this we had a district attorney, Michael Nifong, who was running for reelection in a majority-black jurisdiction. There were suggestions that he wanted to be the mayor one day. Jesse Jackson had plenty to say about this case also. In his column on http://Blacknews.com Jackson said "Predictably, the right-wing media machine has kicked in, prompting mean-spirited attacks upon the accuser's character." Later he offered to pay Mangum's tuition for a college education if her story proved true. Later he amended his promise. In January he said that the Rainbow/Push Coalition would pay her college tuition even if it turns out she completely fabricated her story! Now isn't that special? Hey sisters! How would you like to get a college scholarship from Jesse Jackson? Apparently all you have to do is lodge a false rape accusation against an all-white college sports team! Get out your checkbook, Jesse. Now we have learned that it was a hoax. No truth. The North Carolina Attorney General's office has declared the accused players to be innocent. A State Bar investigation of Nifong continues. And thus far Jesse Jackson has not come forward to offer any comfort to the lacrosse players falsely accused by Ms. Mangum. Now ... why even bring all of this up? Well, we have two college teams in the mix. A Rutgers women's basketball team that is largely black, and a Duke men's lacrosse team that is almost (save for one player) exclusively white. A white man insulted the Rutgers team with a mean-spirited quip. No season cancelled. No coach fired. No arrests. Nobody on the basketball team had to spend tens of thousands of dollars on defense attorneys. They were insulted. The were the targets of a stupid racially charged remark ... but that's pretty much it. But how about Duke? The Duke team members were accused of a crime. Attorneys were hired. Coaches fired. Seasons cancelled. Reputations damaged. DNA swabs were taken. Charges were filed. The district attorney was out there saying that a rape most definitely had occurred. Now we find that they were completely innocent. In the meantime the white man who made the stupid remark about the Rutgers basketball team is being attacked and vilified as if he was a mass murderer. The black woman who made the false charges of rape against the lacrosse team is going to walk. In fact, you can fully expect the civil rights establishment --- the same civil rights establishment that is united in their efforts to destroy Don Imus -- circle the wagons around Crystal Gail Mangum and protect her at all costs. Oprah is going to have the Rutgers woman's basketball team on her show. How many of you would like to make book on when Oprah invites the Duke lacrosse team to be on her show? When pigs fly. Back to talk radio. The mainstream media in this country doesn't merely dislike talk radio, they hate it. Hate it with a blinding passion. How dare these "disc jockeys" get on those radio stations and spout opinions on matters of governance and public policy? Don't they know that this is a job to be left to the professionals at the New York Times and the Washington Post plus the major broadcast TV networks? What's worse, how dare the great unwashed of the general population get on these radio shows, especially the syndicated ones, and spout their ill-advised and uneducated opinions? Think about this. You have a liberal columnist like Maureen Dowd or the insipid Tom Teepen write a column spouting some leftist dogma. That column gets published in newspapers across the country. Then you have some mechanic from Memphis get on the air with Limbaugh or Hannity to offer a differing point of view. The column may be read by a million people -- at the most. The Memphis mechanic is heard by perhaps five times that many. It just ain't right! For years now the left has employed various tactics to marginalize talk radio. The favorite tactic is the tired "hate radio" accusation. The general idea here is that anything said on a talk radio show that is at variance with liberal dogma is "hate speech." This tactic hasn't worked ... and talk radio continues to grow. Well .. now there's a new game plan. Use the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of this world to attack these hosts on the basis of race. That's right .. this whole Imus affair isn't really about race! The TV networks and the liberal mainstream media haven't been hammering this Imus thing day after day after day because they really care about the racial aspects of the story. If they were that concerned about the racial angle they would be playing up the Duke case to a similar extent. Race is the means, not the reason. Right now the mainstream press sees race as the key to destroying talk radio. Focus on the hosts ... wait until they say something that can be racially exploited, and then launch the relentless attack. Go after networks, stations and advertisers. Concentrate on them -- one at a time -- like hyenas looking for a meal. Select prey that looks vulnerable. Isolate that prey and go in for the kill. I don't know how many hosts there are out there who have not made comments about black politicians, celebrities or culture that could be used as the basis for a full force attack. I know I have. Have I gone overboard? You bet! Hell .. 37 years in the business, how can you not have screwed up from time to time? I've apologized in the past -- and probably will one day say something else that merits an apology. Apologies aren't enough, however. The Christian concept of forgiveness and tolerance means nothing to the "reverends" Jackson and Sharpton. They're sharks .. and there's blood in the water. By the way ... my guess? Now that MSNBC has dumped Imus, CBS is sure to follow. Look at it this way .... NBC has canned him. How in the hell can CBS stand up to the this racially charged onslaught? "Hey, CBS! NBC did the right thing? How about you?"
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#218. To: Burkeman1 (#208)
Yes, that is exactly the way they acted. Sort of like the drug industries do today. Or sort of like Enron playing games with the California energy supplies and making milions off the brown outs - before the evaporated with eveyone's pensions.
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No, that is why they now have the traties with Mexico regarding this.
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But they are not! I don't live in Utopia and I don't cater to Utopian wish lists. So the best solution barring friggin Utopian conditions is to have - for a variety of reasons - media dis-consolidation of the broadband markets. This allows market forces and allows for a hoped for diversification of views and art and for competition but mostly for keeping voices on the PUBLIC AIRWAVES open as widely as possible under MARKET conditions.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
About 300 to a cell. Like I said, read before shooting your mouth off moron.
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And I replied - if just using the soldiers for any war just to get more weapons made and spur on the war industry was the reason we would have invaded Rwanda. I already described how deals for such things are made in this govt - coalitions formed etc - you responded favorable to my analysis. I may have to find it again if you wish.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
No, you are trying to change your point because you got hammered on your ignorant rant. What you said is below and it says nothing about "normal broadcast frequencies". It talks about "splitting the spectrum" which isn't the same thing at all. With today's technology, and the almost unimaginable ability to split the spectrum, there is no reason why they couldn't be private property.
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Who "Gave" them this chance? ANd I don't buy that for an effing second. And same with the railroads. No one proffited more from railroad regulation than railroad barons. What government often calls "chaos" is merely them not getting their piece of the pie. Radio comes along- making money hand over fist- and government wanted their piece- thus the various radio acts and laws and comissions that eventually got consolidated to the FCC. There never was a "chance". Congress was already passing laws on Radio broadcasts when there were barley any to begin with.
That is my experiance/observation also.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Like I said, if all the broadcasters agreed to deregulate, then the regulations would probably go away. If there was an evil conspiracy to keep the regs in place over their objections, my guess is that you would hear about it. They do have the ability to get the message out.
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You do know those frequencies are regulated by the FCC as well - the companies who are in the businesses you mentioned don't own the broadband either and operate under license. Your mistake, indeed.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Do you really think that but for the FCC- we would have a jumble of static on the air- no one able to pick up radio broadcasts or television signals? That isn't what you are saying is it? You are really going to argue that radio station owners would just bankrupt themselves by moronically braodcasting on the same frequency as a competitor in the same market but for "laws" and force of government telling them not to- "Granting" them the license for a specific frequency? I don't want to misrepresnt what you are saying.
There is a method of transmitting using short bursts with wave fronts only about a yard long. You can MUX in many different channels here by synchronizing the receiver with the transmitter and just picking up every 10th packet, etc. He read something about this once and was mouthing off about it. He is now trying to cover for the gaff. This technology has problems with rain and dust, etc. That changes the speed of transmission and raises hell with the wave stacking.
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What are you talking about - businesses do that all the time and have- undercut a competitor to drive him out of the market. Stop with the corpro worship - the govt can kill you and so can a corporation - both can become irrational because they are run by flawed men. Sorry to get all Christian Democrat on you.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
I can only go by what happened in the past and this did happen in the past. In fact, it was happening in the 1960s with Mexico. And yes, I do believe that a few corporations would try to take advantage of the situation. And note, the situation becomes unworkable if only ONE corporation decides to play around. That is the nature of the business here. One corporation can put everyone else out of business and take over the whole nations broadcasting.
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That's right Burke - now you get it - BOTH full on Statisim and full on anarcho- libertarianism SUCK. You maintain anarcho-libertarianism does not suck. THEY BOTH SUCK!!
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Regardless, Boortz is correct in pointing out the Modern Inquisition and issuing a warning. Excellent expose of the hypocrisy in all this. Absolutely correct observation. The man's credibility is totally irrelevant to the truth of his observation. Freedom is under attack in this country from all quarters. Give a little and more will be taken away. All those on this forum who can not see this would you please open your eyes. Please. This is only the beginning of total censorship. A backdoor via radio to eventually come after the internet by setting precendents. Do you stand for Freedom or something else? Yeah, freedom can be "uncomfortable." But then I thought we were beyond this level.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Why would they want deregulation? Do you think the airline companies, all three of them- wanted deregulation? Do you think the faux private entity Amtrak wants railroad deregulation? Do you think the auto industry wants all those federal standards to go away? Regulation limits the playing field by raising the cost of doing business and basically making it impossible for start ups to occur. If you are a big giant company or corporation- you want regulation. Cause you can afford to comply with them- your smaller competitors can't. There is a reason why this country had three airlines until the 80's- and it wasn't because of the evil free market.
You are a statist. Chechyan rebels, coming out of 70 years of communist barbaric rule is not "anarcho capitalism". And even if it were- their slave trade was nothing compared to the modern statist slave labor holocausts we have seen in the past hundred years.
Or you want regulation if you are a 5 kW mom and pop station being menaced by a multi-million dollar three hundred thousand watt station two states over.
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I am a long time Howard Stern fan - when Howard went to have one of his marches to celebrate his ratings triumph a competitor had their engineer cut his signal. Ever see the movie 'Used Cars'? Selling cars by jacking the feed of the superbowl - funny as hell movie starring Kurt Russel.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
When can I charge people for breathing air? Let me know.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
I don't worship the corps. You obviously worship the state.
I've been looking around on the news this past hour or so and have found 3 other articles/editorials connecting Don Imus being fired to the Duke case and I wasn't even looking for that. I find this curious especially in light of the fact that the author here is obviously fanning the flames of anger and outrage. I can't believe how this topic is dominating all the so-called news outlets, it makes me wonder if something is brewing that we need to be distracted from.
They also prevent unethical bullying by multi-national corporations who simply want to run the small operators out of business to take over the market - and maybe not take over until some later date. I've worked for major corporations and seen them deliberately destroy all the small independent operators. They then didn't even bother take over the market, they held it in reserve and the general population suffered for it.
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When you guys run out of arguments you take one of three tired options: 1. Strawman 2. Personal insult 2. change of subject. Nice Strawman. You really put some nasty words in my mouth. Guess you don't have to make sense after that huh?
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Why not? The Chechens that came out of that rule did not impose communism or create a communist state. Chechnya was by far the closest example in the modern world to a lawless state - by lawless I mean no state authority. You may have a Utopian ideal of "anarcho capitalism" - Utopia is bullshit and never existed nor will it exist.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
The topic of Don Imus being fired, not the connecting of it to the Duke lacrosse team which I only saw those 3 articles about that, but Don Imus fired articles in general are everywhere.
If you would do some reading, and think about what you are saying before hitting the post button, you wouldn't need to start kicking and screaming and using your three tactics. What you are doing above is making up your mind and then trying to fit the fact to your prejudice. And you get your ass kicked. You then start your personal attacks and you get laughed at. LOL!!! Now try taking the facts and forming an opinion from them. That is what adults do.
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Hmmmmm. The federal government has tons of broadcast laws and regs and comissions- hundreds of thousands of them. Have they protected those small mom and pop radio stations? What has happened to media in the last 50 years? More hands? Or fewer hands? Do we have more laws and regs regarding broadcasting today than existed 30 years ago? How many employees does the FCC have now compared to 30 years ago? The feds have done a great job protecting those small media companies.
I have no "Utopian" ideal. I just don't give government credit when none is due.
They still exist, my family owns one.
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I'm confident I have held up quite well in this exchange. I don't have to resort to the nervous and awkard BAC "LOL" either.
And how is this related to the price of tea in China? How many emloyees are needed and how many are surplus? And does this change on any given day? Does it change seasonally? Do the types of employees required morph over time? Nice change of subject. Now try personal insult.
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That's right. You used the BAC reference when you got desperate and went to personal insult earlier today. I used the LOL to illustrate your use of the three tactics was silly. But you know that.
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I don't worship the state. I am for limited govt. But I am for govt. I am a Burkeian but more so a John Locke empiricist. As an empiricist I hold "anarcho capitalism" notions in disfavor because no such macro-economic system has ever existed in human history. It is a school boys model.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
The Duke case is when all is said and done a local issue - Don Imus is a famous nationally syndicated radio star and his firing has NATIONAL implications. White women and black women falsely accuse men of rape all the time.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Yes, what's your point? Just because they don't own it now means they can't own it ever?
THAT IS NOT OUR POINT!!!! The only govt regulation beyond say regulating frequency, etc (which you are against anyway) we are calling for is to limit media consolidation. Focus. The only govt regulation beyond say regulating frequency, etc (which you are against anyway) we are calling for is to limit media consolidation. Why? We think that it would create a diversity of opinions on the airwaves - or more opinions than are found now. Agree with this point or not? focus.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Yes, and on this note I might add that I don't worship the state either, but I do believe that political philosophies are only ideals and that anyone who rigidly adheres to any particular philosophy as dogma is a fool headed for disaster. If you could efficiently catalog human behavior into an adquate set of laws, you could model humans. And you can't do that. And it may not even be possible to do that. Roger Penrose a dean of mathematics at Oxford doesn't think it is possible and he gives a pretty good proof of it in The Emperors New Mind. The system is only a rough guide. Judges, Juries and Legislaturs fill in the details on a case by case bases. They have to do this because human behavior is too complicated to write out in advance - and that is what you would have to do to have perfect laws.
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Sure they have. The ancient world was by and large one giant free market and "government" was little more than a group of armed men that had to be paid off- an expense of business. Ancient laws and regulations, even of the most technocratic ancient empires were few by reason of technological limitations and enforced erratically and unevenly. "Government" barely existed in the lives of most people day to day. Today- you literally can't do anything without bumping into the state. It pervades EVERYTHING we do. I think, that human history has come full circle again. That the technology that made state control more effective and more onerous- is now being superseeded by yet more technology- information technology that renders much of what state now does and claims that only in can provide superfluous and unneccessary. I think the "state" as a central component in culture is floundering and will take a back seat once again.
You brought up the term "normal broadcast frequencies". Are you having trouble following along again? 300 What do voice channels have to do with available frequencies? And were you saying that digital technology hasn't made more efficient use of the frequencies?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latestbut - like assholes with bottomless supplies of cash- would broadcast on the same frequency so that their listeners would get jumbled static? Oh- ok.
#219. To: SmokinOPs (#217)
America seemed to make it along just fine with the border blaster X's
#220. To: SmokinOPs, ... (#195)
With today's technology, and the almost unimaginable ability to split the spectrum, there is no reason why they couldn't be private property.
#221. To: SmokinOPs (#212)
No really, thanks for enlightening me. I guess 20 miles is short range to you. How many people does that 20 miles cover in a metro area moron?
#222. To: Burkeman1 (#201)
Again- but for the fact that the US government had a contingent of marines ready and poised for deployment- would United Fruit have taken it upon themselves to over throw the government in Guetemala or would they have had to come to terms with that government?
#223. To: SmokinOPs (#215)
My point wasn't that they were in the normal "broadcast frequencies". That's a government designation. My point was the frequencies that technology has allowed the consumer to recieve information by.
#224. To: ... (#216)
They were given the chance
#225. To: ..., Burkeman1 (#203)
Have you ever been to a shanty town in a third world country? They have no government "services"- or even law. Is it chaos? Is it "anarchy"?
#226. To: Burkeman1 (#224)
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What government often calls "chaos" is merely them not getting their piece of the pie. Radio comes along- making money hand over fist- and government wanted their piece- thus the various radio acts and laws and comissions that eventually got consolidated to the FCC. There never was a "chance". Congress was already passing laws on Radio broadcasts when there were barley any to begin with.
#227. To: SmokinOPs, ... (#204)
LOL Ok, Rip Van Winkle. I guess I was just imagining cell phones, Wi Fi, satellite tv, satellite radio, digital tv, digital audio, analog tv, analog radio. My mistake.
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#229. To: Destro (#227)
#230. To: Burkeman1, ... (#211)
Because they are not the government and can't steal money from people to support stupid unproductive projects like broadcasting on the same frequency as a local competitor.
#231. To: Burkeman1 (#228)
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Do you really think that but for the FCC- we would have a jumble of static on the air- no one able to pick up radio broadcasts or television signals?
#232. To: Burkeman1, ... (#214)
You are right- the trafficing of Gulag prisoners as slave laborers to state industries under Stalin was better.
#233. To: mirage, destro, christine, tauzero, freedom lovers, ferret mike, jethro tull (#5)
Boo-rtz has zero credibility.
In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX
"Peace? There's no money in peace! What we need is a war!"
--Three Stooges
#234. To: ... (#226)
#235. To: Destro (#232)
#236. To: Burkeman1 (#234)
If you are a big giant company or corporation- you want regulation.
#237. To: Burkeman1, ... (#228)
Do you really think that but for the FCC- we would have a jumble of static on the air- no one able to pick up radio broadcasts or television signals?
#238. To: ... (#229)
#239. To: Destro (#230)
#240. To: Brian S (#0)
In the meantime... while the race industry is calling for the head of Don Imus, we have Crystal Gail Mangum of North Carolina. Who is she? She is the woman who falsely accused three members of the Duke lacrosse team of rape. Her unsubstantiated charges resulted in a media firestorm against Duke University and these lacrosse players.
#241. To: Burkeman1 (#234)
Regulation limits the playing field by raising the cost of doing business and basically making it impossible for start ups to occur.
#242. To: Burkeman1 (#239)
You obviously worship the state.
#243. To: Burkeman1. ... (#235)
Chechyan rebels, coming out of 70 years of communist barbaric rule is not "anarcho capitalism".
#244. To: All (#240)
topic is dominating all the so-called news outlets
#245. To: Burkeman1 (#239)
I don't worship the corps. You obviously worship the state.
#246. To: ... (#241)
#247. To: Destro (#243)
#248. To: Burkeman1 (#246)
Have they protected those small mom and pop radio stations?
#249. To: ... (#245)
#250. To: Burkeman1 (#246)
How many employees does the FCC have now compared to 30 years ago?
#251. To: Burkeman1 (#249)
I don't have to resort to the nervous and awkard BAC "LOL" either.
#252. To: Burkeman1, ... (#239)
I don't worship the corps. You obviously worship the state.
#253. To: Diana, Brian S (#240)
#254. To: Destro (#227)
You do know those frequencies are regulated by the FCC as well - the companies who are in the businesses you mentioned don't own the broadband either and operate under license.
#255. To: Burkeman1, ... (#246)
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Hmmmmm. The federal government has tons of broadcast laws and regs and comissions- hundreds of thousands of them. Have they protected those small mom and pop radio stations?
#256. To: Destro (#252)
#257. To: Destro (#252)
#258. To: ... (#223)
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No, you are trying to change your point because you got hammered on your ignorant rant. What you said is below and it says nothing about "normal broadcast frequencies".
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