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Title: BLOOD IN THE WATER; Right-wing talk shows next...
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Published: Apr 12, 2007
Author: Neal Boortz
Post Date: 2007-04-12 13:59:49 by Brian S
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Liberals see this whole Imus situation as a way to rid themselves of the problem of talk radio. Now that they've succeeded in getting MSNBC to pull Imus' program, they'll concentrate on CBS .. trying to get the radio show cancelled. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they succeed. Then they will turn their attention to the rest of us. The tape recorders will be running. There is not one single significant right-of-center radio talk show out there that is not going to come under fire. Liberals know -- they've proven it to themselves -- that they simply cannot succeed in talk radio. So, it's all very simple. If they can't succeed, destroy the genre. Their original plan was to wait until Democrats control the congress and the White House and then murder talk radio with the so-called "Fairness Doctrine." Now that they're on the verge of having a talk radio scalp on their belts as retribution for a bad and mean-spirited joke, they see that they may not have to wait for the electorate to give them the power. In the meantime... while the race industry is calling for the head of Don Imus, we have Crystal Gail Mangum of North Carolina. Who is she? She is the woman who falsely accused three members of the Duke lacrosse team of rape. Her unsubstantiated charges resulted in a media firestorm against Duke University and these lacrosse players. Would you like to spend a few moments comparing the effect of Mangum's charges on the Duke lacrosse team and Imus' words on the Rutgers woman's basketball team? Sure! Why not! Now, let's see ...... The remainder of the Duke lacrosse season was cancelled. They were nationally ranked, and had to forfeit the rest of their games. The coach, Mike Pressler, resigned. "Mug shots" of the lacrosse players were posted on campus. Mark Anthony Neal, an African Studies professor on the campus said that this was "a case of racialized sexual violence." A Durham, N.C. resident called it "racial terrorism." In the middle of all of this we had a district attorney, Michael Nifong, who was running for reelection in a majority-black jurisdiction. There were suggestions that he wanted to be the mayor one day. Jesse Jackson had plenty to say about this case also. In his column on http://Blacknews.com Jackson said "Predictably, the right-wing media machine has kicked in, prompting mean-spirited attacks upon the accuser's character." Later he offered to pay Mangum's tuition for a college education if her story proved true. Later he amended his promise. In January he said that the Rainbow/Push Coalition would pay her college tuition even if it turns out she completely fabricated her story! Now isn't that special? Hey sisters! How would you like to get a college scholarship from Jesse Jackson? Apparently all you have to do is lodge a false rape accusation against an all-white college sports team! Get out your checkbook, Jesse. Now we have learned that it was a hoax. No truth. The North Carolina Attorney General's office has declared the accused players to be innocent. A State Bar investigation of Nifong continues. And thus far Jesse Jackson has not come forward to offer any comfort to the lacrosse players falsely accused by Ms. Mangum. Now ... why even bring all of this up? Well, we have two college teams in the mix. A Rutgers women's basketball team that is largely black, and a Duke men's lacrosse team that is almost (save for one player) exclusively white. A white man insulted the Rutgers team with a mean-spirited quip. No season cancelled. No coach fired. No arrests. Nobody on the basketball team had to spend tens of thousands of dollars on defense attorneys. They were insulted. The were the targets of a stupid racially charged remark ... but that's pretty much it. But how about Duke? The Duke team members were accused of a crime. Attorneys were hired. Coaches fired. Seasons cancelled. Reputations damaged. DNA swabs were taken. Charges were filed. The district attorney was out there saying that a rape most definitely had occurred. Now we find that they were completely innocent. In the meantime the white man who made the stupid remark about the Rutgers basketball team is being attacked and vilified as if he was a mass murderer. The black woman who made the false charges of rape against the lacrosse team is going to walk. In fact, you can fully expect the civil rights establishment --- the same civil rights establishment that is united in their efforts to destroy Don Imus -- circle the wagons around Crystal Gail Mangum and protect her at all costs. Oprah is going to have the Rutgers woman's basketball team on her show. How many of you would like to make book on when Oprah invites the Duke lacrosse team to be on her show? When pigs fly. Back to talk radio. The mainstream media in this country doesn't merely dislike talk radio, they hate it. Hate it with a blinding passion. How dare these "disc jockeys" get on those radio stations and spout opinions on matters of governance and public policy? Don't they know that this is a job to be left to the professionals at the New York Times and the Washington Post plus the major broadcast TV networks? What's worse, how dare the great unwashed of the general population get on these radio shows, especially the syndicated ones, and spout their ill-advised and uneducated opinions? Think about this. You have a liberal columnist like Maureen Dowd or the insipid Tom Teepen write a column spouting some leftist dogma. That column gets published in newspapers across the country. Then you have some mechanic from Memphis get on the air with Limbaugh or Hannity to offer a differing point of view. The column may be read by a million people -- at the most. The Memphis mechanic is heard by perhaps five times that many. It just ain't right! For years now the left has employed various tactics to marginalize talk radio. The favorite tactic is the tired "hate radio" accusation. The general idea here is that anything said on a talk radio show that is at variance with liberal dogma is "hate speech." This tactic hasn't worked ... and talk radio continues to grow. Well .. now there's a new game plan. Use the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of this world to attack these hosts on the basis of race. That's right .. this whole Imus affair isn't really about race! The TV networks and the liberal mainstream media haven't been hammering this Imus thing day after day after day because they really care about the racial aspects of the story. If they were that concerned about the racial angle they would be playing up the Duke case to a similar extent. Race is the means, not the reason. Right now the mainstream press sees race as the key to destroying talk radio. Focus on the hosts ... wait until they say something that can be racially exploited, and then launch the relentless attack. Go after networks, stations and advertisers. Concentrate on them -- one at a time -- like hyenas looking for a meal. Select prey that looks vulnerable. Isolate that prey and go in for the kill. I don't know how many hosts there are out there who have not made comments about black politicians, celebrities or culture that could be used as the basis for a full force attack. I know I have. Have I gone overboard? You bet! Hell .. 37 years in the business, how can you not have screwed up from time to time? I've apologized in the past -- and probably will one day say something else that merits an apology. Apologies aren't enough, however. The Christian concept of forgiveness and tolerance means nothing to the "reverends" Jackson and Sharpton. They're sharks .. and there's blood in the water. By the way ... my guess? Now that MSNBC has dumped Imus, CBS is sure to follow. Look at it this way .... NBC has canned him. How in the hell can CBS stand up to the this racially charged onslaught? "Hey, CBS! NBC did the right thing? How about you?"
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#298. To: Indrid Cold (#284)
I like Stephanie Miller; I like Ed Schultz and Bill Press and one other dude who gets about an hour somewhere in the middle. Oh, and I liked Randi Rhodes back when I could get her. But Bennett and Samuels? They just suck (so of course they get 3 fucking hours apeice).
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
Cut the cheap word games and tell us why the state can't lock up crooks. It's my position that the state was granted the right to do this. You answer that in fantasy land the word isn't defined that way is stoopid.
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You need to learn the terms before you use them. Are there twelve million cheap radio stations out there for people to buy? What significance is the number 12 million? Even morons like you can do better than that. Like I said, your M.O. is to accuse others of what you plan to do.
You just said "power" a minute ago, and now you are back to "rights". Buy a dictionary.
What significance is the number 12 million? What you are doing here is called begging the question. You know you can't answer it withoug looking like an idiot so you try to extend the discussion by answering the question with another pointless question. You are not the only one to do this - 9 year olds do it all the time. You will try to string things along and hope you can either start a fight or change the subject. Why don't you just answer the question instead?
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Another term you don't know the meaning of. You know you can't answer it withoug looking like an idiot so you try to extend the discussion by answering the question with another pointless question. No, I really want to know what the significance of the numbers you are spouting is.
Another term you don't know the meaning of. I disagree, but you can call your tactic for avoiding the question anything you like. What is this tactic called in fantasy land? Here the question again, now you ask a pointless question in response to avoid it. And you can call the tactic by the same name the people in fantasy land employ. The result is the same. Are there twelve million cheap radio stations out there for people to buy?
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You're confusing consumer popularity with airwave monopoly. There are plenty of other AM channels that don't play talk radio. People don't listen to liberal talk radio because it sucks, there's only so much crap anyone, even a liberal, can put up with when it comes to carping about insufficient funding for [insert self destructive behavior of the day whose victims need my money here]. And when it comes down to it, outside of the discussion of foreign policy, 95% of liberal talk is that, and conservative talk is bitching about government and everybody likes to bitch about the government. If you're an investor, it's easy to see where to put your money on that bet. If this so called fairness doctrine came back in effect, I can guarantee that the end result would merely be a quicker migration to satellite and digital internet formats. Fairly soon after that, there would be liberals bemoaning the monopolization of those formats and clamoring for some type of regulation of them. If you could put together a host team of people who didn't sound like an NPR condescention crew and weren't idiots like Al Franken et. al., you might have a shot at market viability if you could figure out how to propagate liberal ideas that weren't dependant upon constantly expanding monetary policy...
"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"
Well you can disagree all you want. It won't make you right. "Begging the question" is term with a specific meaning and it has nothing to do with asking a question. What is this tactic called in fantasy land? I don't know what fantasy land you refer to, but in the English language we call it asking a question. Here the question again, now you ask a pointless question in response to avoid it. I'm not avoiding it. I want to know the relevance of the numbers you picked. Why not a billion radio stations, or a trillion? Do you think in a debate you should just be able to pull numbers out of your ass and then force people to argue from an irrelevant premise? Not with me you don't.
I had anarcho-capitalists/libertarians mention this to me in the past. To me that sounded like Khmer Rouge thinking of returning the world to Year Zero. The above was all well and good for a barter economy but we are not there anymore. History teaches me via my empiricist observations that this very anarchy of the ancient world in fact FORCED the creation of the state because Heboodia did not trust the scales of Zebodia in Mesopotamia nor did they trust the gold purity of each other's nuggets. This necessitated the STATE coining money, affixing its seal on the gold coins in Lydia and regulating weights and measures. So empiricist observations of history belies the Utopian notions of anarcho-capitalists/libertarians as much as it does the BS that comes from Utopian Anarchists/Marxists. PS: I am enjoying this conversation. I hope you are also.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
In other words, on this issue we are in agreement. Such discussions from like minded individuals reminds me of the Orthodox and Catholic disputes from a thousand years ago where they argued that in understanding the Holy Trinity if the Holy Spirit could come from the Father and/or the Son (Correct answer from the Father only-Heh).
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
That is why I have attempted to discuss media consolidation as the problem and media dis-consolidation (break up) as the best solution/hope to diversity in media message.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Not from my readings. Then again maybe you like the notion of fake judges like Roy Bean handing out these kind of sound judgments: "One story has him finding a dead Chinese man with a gun and $40 in his pocket; since he purportedly knew of no law against killing a "Chinaman", he proceeded to fine the dead man $40 for carrying a concealed weapon. He also knew next to nothing about the law; he reputedly thought habeas corpus was a profanity" I guess the retort is - govt imposed judges are no better and on the argument goes.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
More Whites (gross figure not per capita) live under some welfare state provision than the 'Darkies'. In fact if you factor in farm subsidies and corporate welfare (which the Darkies on welfare crowd leaves out) then Whites are the real welfare queens.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
In fact if you factor in farm subsidies and corporate welfare (which the Darkies on welfare crowd leaves out) then Whites are the real welfare queens. Don't confuse him with the facts.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
I agree with you.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
Good for Somalia. How about Chechnya where they cut cellphone installation technicians heads off - probably because he did not pay the local warlord or could be they like head chopping - who knows.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
I like confusing people with facts - it's why I was banned from Freerepublic a dozen times. Facts confuse extremists on the left AND the right. "Whites are the real welfare queens."
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Wise words. And they apply to everything. Absolutely everything.
Well did you talk your Catholic school teachers into showing your 4th grade class High Anxiety?
Good point, though apparently novel for many. All that is accomplished by regulation is a shift of nexus from private managers to state managers, i.e. bureaucrats. The state apparatus becomes the aspiration of office-seekers. This is not necessarily an improvement -- but that cuts both ways. Far more important than the face-value rules of the game are who the players are.
Well did you talk your Catholic school teachers into showing your 4th grade class High Anxiety?
Thom Hartman. He's OK too. If the XM-Sirius merger goes through, hopefully you'll be able to pick your programming a little more. Did you hear when Randi Rhodes called Stephanie Miller and was flirting with her? Rowr!
The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.
That's the guy. Bennett could do his schtick on any network, even a right wing one, it's so bland and basically non-political; and Samuels, Oey Vey... Typical New York hag kvetching about trivial bullshit and switch hitting opinions.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
There might be a certain, umm, path dependence here.
Well did you talk your Catholic school teachers into showing your 4th grade class High Anxiety?
Its a shame nobody listens to the quality manager.... Another one that is absolutely true and nobody heeds is "Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing at all" I have an entire list of 'rules' that I've been generating over the last year as I notice things that require a 'new rule' to address. Some year I'll turn it into a book.
Press 1 to proceed in English. Press 2 for Deportation.
Unfortunately though, there is very little agreement on what things constitute flaws, or to what degree, except perhaps in some things like not liking to be killed. Even worse, there is only some agreement on the value of agreement per se, or on reciprocity.
In the depth of their sorrow, they shall know; That he who held back holds back no longer.
In fact if you factor in farm subsidies and corporate welfare (which the Darkies on welfare crowd leaves out) then Whites are the real welfare queens. There isn't a successful self sustaining black nation on the planet earth, and the welfare monies spent on blacks in America are probably secondary to the financial impact that black criminals have on our society, not to mention the amount of violent crime committed by them. The illegals are also a major drain on the economy and huge negative impact on the social costs because of their criminal activity, and this bullshit is being PROMOTED by the government and the Vatican. I won't argue about the corporate welfare, I think corporations should be outlawed, period. They are "legal fictions" ... frauds that have no reason for existence other than to maximize greed and limit liability. (Oh, and to bribe politicians). The farm subsidy actually serves commodities brokers, bankers and tax collectors more than the farmer. The farmer's product is price regulated which prevents market forces from determining the price. The cost of everything related to farming, tractors, combines, fuel etc., has sky-rocketed while the crops have remained at nearly the same price for the last 60 years or more. (Crops have gone up a little in the last couple of years, but not significantly).
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
That was my impression, too. Since I'm not a) a New Yorker, b) Jewish, or c) attracted to harpies, I don't listen to her. Also, she's got a mouth like a sailor--that's tough for when the kids are in the car.
The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.
This is very true. Society seems to be operating like a software QA department. Things are looked at when they are reported and the "fix" slows down to a crawl when it is 'escalated.' But the common agreement is "This must be fixed!" Yet most often, the best thing to do...is to do nothing at all...its a shame people can't figure that out.
Press 1 to proceed in English. Press 2 for Deportation.
Yup. WHich would be okay if she was at least funny. Ech.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
Not even Italy?
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
whitey mudda fuckers Don't make me come ovah there bitch...
The Bahamas? Jamaica?
The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.
Maybe ya gotta have faith. History gives many examples of the right man in the right place at the right time. Historians love to write about them and think they're important, but I think that's mostly just survivor bias.
In the depth of their sorrow, they shall know; That he who held back holds back no longer.
Both are anglophone and have been run by whites, speak english and I wouldn't consider them successful self-sustaining countries either. However, they are fun to vacation in.
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Nappy Headed Ho: This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Imus and Company is "so going to" cash in on this faux controversy... Laughing all the way to the bank...he!
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Not even Italy? The Black Nobility do not qualify ... but it was an exceptional reply !
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Says who? You? The descendant of body painting and animal skin wearing Germanic barbarians the Romans only thought were fit for plow work? The people whose ethnic name gave the world the term 'vandal' based on the destructive characteristics of their ethnic traits? Till Goths, and Vandals, a rude Northern race, Did all the matchless Monuments deface (John Dryden 1694).
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Most countries in Africa were former colonies of Europe, yet they fell apart when whitey left, but for some the Caribbean nations didn't. Now they're making money due to the drug trade and offshore gambling servers--good for them. I do know that Jamaica and the Bahamas both have their dirt-poor areas, but it's not like there are rival factions going around hacking peoples heads off with machetes.
The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.
Improvement maybe, but success is surely judged to a higher standard than limited machete hacking ... even though our own society looks to be headed in that direction.
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
LOL!
The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.
#299. To: SmokinOPs (#295)
What does that have to between my (and the Framers of the Constitution)understanding of the difference between a power and a right?
#300. To: ... (#296)
This is a reall clumsy strawman and subject change.
#301. To: ... (#299)
It's my position that the state was granted the right to do this.
#302. To: SmokinOPs (#300)
Are there twelve million cheap radio stations out there for people to buy?
#303. To: ... (#302)
What you are doing here is called begging the question.
#304. To: SmokinOPs (#303)
What you are doing here is called begging the question.
#305. To: Mekons4 (#32)
You approve of GOP ownership of the AM radio band, evidently. Just TRY finding a fair, balanced talk show on AM radio. You can't.
#306. To: ... (#304)
I disagree...
#307. To: Burkeman1, ..., SmokinOPs (#257)
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Sure they have. The ancient world was by and large one giant free market and "government" was little more than a group of armed men that had to be paid off- an expense of business.
#308. To: Burkeman1, ..., SmokinOPs (#262)
Under current circumstances - in which the reality is we have a heavily regulated media in this country- subject to the stick and carrot of government control- it might be better to prevent the consolidation of the media into only a few hands using the force (law) of the same government. But absent such overweening government interference in the first place- such preventitive measures against media consolidation wouldn't be necessary.
#309. To: noone222, Diana (#263)
Mainstream Talk Radio, a term the "fair and balanced" crowd deny, is a nuclear turd delivered daily like a dose of prozac served up to anyone with too much time on their hands. And to think some people are so friggin stupid or comatose they actually think there are two sides, good guys and bad guys ... or maybe it's more akin to a baby-bottle shoved into the collective baby's mouth to shut it up.
#310. To: Burkeman1, ..., SmokinOPs (#267)
Despite the idiocy of a program like "Deadwood" which shows a state of chaos existing between groups of murderers and thieves- the American West wasn't ever very "wild."
#311. To: noone222, Burkeman1 (#269)
Like it or not the truth is that the darker this country gets ethnically the more the nanny state will intrude into our lives.
#312. To: Destro (#311)
More Whites (gross figure not per capita) live under some welfare state provision than the 'Darkies'.
#313. To: Destro (#309)
That is why I have attempted to discuss media consolidation as the problem
#314. To: SmokinOPs, Burkeman1, ... (#272)
But in a [Somalia] divided into hundreds of fiefdoms run by rival warlords, security is a major concern.
#315. To: bluedogtxn, noone222 (#312)
Don't confuse him with the facts.
#316. To: mirage (#41)
When one fixes one defect, one always introduces another. That is just how things work.
#317. To: SmokinOPs (#103)
You do? How much can you sell it for?
#318. To: bluedogtxn (#298)
and one other dude who gets about an hour somewhere in the middle.
#319. To: Indrid Cold (#318)
Thom Hartman. He's OK too.
#320. To: SmokinOPs (#272)
We saw a huge gap in the market, as all previous services had been destroyed.
#321. To: Tauzero (#316)
Wise words. And they apply to everything. Absolutely everything.
#322. To: mirage (#321)
#323. To: Destro (#311)
Like it or not the truth is that the darker this country gets ethnically the more the nanny state will intrude into our lives.
#324. To: bluedogtxn (#319)
Samuels, Oey Vey... Typical New York hag kvetching about trivial bullshit and switch hitting opinions.
#325. To: Tauzero (#322)
Unfortunately though, there is very little agreement on what things constitute flaws, or to what degree, except perhaps in some things like not liking to be killed. Even worse, there is only some agreement on the value of agreement per se, or on reciprocity.
#326. To: Indrid Cold (#324)
Also, she's got a mouth like a sailor--that's tough for when the kids are in the car.
#327. To: noone222, bluedogtxn (#323)
There isn't a successful self sustaining black nation on the planet earth
#328. To: Destro (#327)
#329. To: noone222 (#323)
There isn't a successful self sustaining black nation on the planet earth
#330. To: mirage (#325)
Yet most often, the best thing to do...is to do nothing at all..
#331. To: Indrid Cold (#329)
The Bahamas? Jamaica?
#332. To: All (#323)
#333. To: noone222 (#332)
Nappy Headed Ho:
#334. To: Destro (#327)
There isn't a successful self sustaining black nation on the planet earth ...
#335. To: noone222, Bluedogtxn (#334)
The Black Nobility do not qualify ... but it was an exceptional reply !
#336. To: noone222 (#331)
Both are anglophone and have been run by whites, speak english and I wouldn't consider them successful self-sustaining countries either.
#337. To: Indrid Cold (#336)
I do know that Jamaica and the Bahamas both have their dirt-poor areas, but it's not like there are rival factions going around hacking peoples heads off with machetes.
#338. To: noone222 (#337)
but success is surely judged to a higher standard than limited machete hacking
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