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Title: Are 911 Truth Deniers Dumber Than A 5th Grader?
Source: Rense
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general76/truther.htm
Published: Apr 13, 2007
Author: Douglas Herman
Post Date: 2007-04-14 21:15:20 by robin
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Are 911 Truth Deniers Dumber
Than A 5th Grader?
By Douglas Herman
Exclusive to Rense.com
4-13-7

The most subversive show on television is on the Fox TV network. Maybe you've seen it. Hosted by a guy named Jeff Foxworthy, the show is called "Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader?"

Hopefully, the show is broadcast to every nation of the world, including China, the Middle East and the English-speaking nations of the former British empire. Why? To show the rest of the world what they already suspect: that most Americans are a bunch of greedy nitwits, numbskulls and knuckleheads.

Truly, most Americans are Not smarter than a fifth grader. Indeed, judging from the shows I've seen, quite a few American adults are dumber than a FIRST grader. The adults--and I use that word loosely--who participate on the show are college graduates with good jobs. Some of them graduated with honors--whatever that means in collegiate circles. Uniformly, they perform badly. If ignorance is bliss then most of the adults on the show are positively delirious. They win a few thousand dollars, sometimes a quarter million, but for the most part, look like greedy imbeciles.

They ALL remind me of 911 truth deniers.

First question: What is jet fuel? Don't know? Yes, you are dumber than a fifth grader. Could a kerosene fire (basically jet fuel) melt steel beams? No, but sometimes it does if the government says it can and the Twin Towers are involved. Sorry, wrong answer. You are dumber than any first grader possessing a basic understanding of a barbecue grill.

I'm forever delighted by the faces of the wise children everywhere. They remind me of "Truthers," those citizens concerned with nothing so much as unraveling a great crime against America, convinced we can persuade even the dumbest Americans--and God knows there are millions of them---that steel building do not just fall down at the speed of gravity, no matter how many morons at MIT say they can.

Okay: How many sides to a trapezoid? Every Truther, and fifth grader on the show that I happened to watch, knew the answer to that. Four, as in the shape of the WTC-7 foundation.

Most 911 debunkers love to quote the number of top US scientists, engineers and architects who deny 911 was an inside job. Luckily, we Truthers can demonstrate that many of these top experts are just plain dumb. How? We need only point to a show like "Smarter Than A 5th Grader," a show that readily indicates how dumb so-called educated American people can be. Even ones with advanced degrees and Cum Laude after their names.

Indeed, one of the World's Most Famous Smart Persons, a professor at MIT named Chomsky, said the perplexing anomalies of 911 didn't really matter to him. Huh? That would be like asking a group of fifth graders how did the Titanic sink? And then remarking to them to ignore the iceberg altogether and focus instead on the weight and volume of the water that filled the ship. All while manipulating computer models to show that a few open portholes caused the Titanic to sink.

Because that was EXACTLY what the Kean Commission did to WTC-7. They ignored the collapse of a 600 foot World Trade Center building altogether. And that was EXACTLY what NIST has done also, for the past five years. They have ignored the obvious, ignoring the iceberg, focusing on the floodwater.

Are Americans dumber than 5th graders? Yes, especially most of the top scientists working for the US government. For example, a videotape was shown---but not identified---to a top Dutch demolition expert. The videotape was of a 47 story government building collapsing in 6.5 seconds. The Dutch expert---unlike many of the top US experts---said unequivocally that the building had been blown down. A controlled demolition. Indeed, you could show that same videotape to those 5th graders and get the same answer.

The chief difference? Neither the Dutch expert nor the 5th graders depend on the US government to pay their salaries, or fund their think tanks or universities. Thus they can answer honestly and without fear of retribution.

Magna Cum Laude in Cowardice? Simply look around.

Next Question: Who met with the (alleged but never proven) head hijacker's bagman, met him for breakfast on 9-11? If you answered a top Al Qaeda member, you would be WRONG. But if you answered several top US intelligence figures met with the man who provided Mohammed Atta with $100,000 you would be right.

Another question. Why couldn't NORAD get even one plane aloft to encounter even one hijacked jet? Was it because our highly trained air force pilots are incompetent and dumber than a 5th grader? How do you feel about that? That the rest of the world thinks we are dumber than a newborn babe for believing that the top air defense in the world--NORAD--couldn't even get ONE fighter jet aloft in ninety minutes, 90 MINUTES?

We really are a dumb race of people if we believe 9-11 was a case of incompetence. Dumber still if we accept the excuses from our government officials and haven't demanded the indictment of even ONE person that allowed close to 3,000 citizens be murdered.

Debunkers would have you believe the official lie. And it is a masterful lie. They want to keep you dumb; that is their whole purpose. To keep you dumb. To keep you from asking too many questions. But mostly to keep you from demanding answers, and then demanding indictments and convictions.

But debunkers are relatively few, and mostly shrewd, manipulative liars.

911 truth deniers, on the other hand---the millions of ordinary folks who adhere to the official story--would have us simply give the US government the benefit of the doubt. When you ask them why, when you point to the string of lies before and after 911, when you point to the murderous government policies post- 911, they stare dumbly, like contestants on that TV game show.

On that TV show, however, the 5th graders can sometimes help those dumb adults. But only IF the adults want to be helped. Five years after 911, we Truthers are the fresh-faced students, trying to awaken our compatriots to the correct answers. And in this case, they have a whole lot more to win or lose than a few thousand dollars.

Footnote: I would like once again to thank my compatriots at 911blogger.com who provided the illustration. As you can see, it doesn't take a rocket scientists to understand 911. Indeed, most American rocket scientists are probably too dumb.

Simply put: Can an object fall through mass 5 times greater than itself, falling nearly as fast as it would fall through empty air, when the only force available is gravity? Sure it can, as long as the object is falling through a heavily-insured white elephant housing sensitive government offices.

USAF veteran Douglas Herman writes for Rense regularly and clearly understood the scam of the NORAD standdown within a few months after 911. He wrote the recent Rense feature, Why No Norad On 911?

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#6. To: robin, RickyJ, Paul Revere, Pissed Off Janitor (#0)

Could a kerosene fire (basically jet fuel) melt steel beams? No, but sometimes it does if the government says it can and the Twin Towers are involved.

Where did the govt say the steel beams melted? The 9/11 report stated the fire weakened the structural steel enough to cause strength failure. That is why I feel the 9/11 truth people in acts of ignorance demonstrated in the Rense article are destroying the investigation in the 9/11 plot by people who think the govt is involved on some level but are then grouped in along with moonbats who not only say stupid things but they even get the facts about what the govt said wrong.

So therefore http://Rense.com - where UFO nuts go and hang out - proves that they also are not smarter than a 5th grader as well.

OK, the following I will explain ahead of time for the slow witted among you. The only reason I am posting the Popular Mechanic article segment on the steel is to show that no one in the official govt story ever claimed the steel melted. Hence this proves whoever wrote this Rense article is either a willful liar or a fool or both. Again, I am posting the following to disprove Rense's accusation that the govt official story says the steel melted.

"Melted" Steel

CLAIM: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site http://AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength-- and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

Destro  posted on  2007-04-15   5:55:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Destro (#6)

There are only 16% of Americans who believe the president's story on 9-11.

Congratulations for being in that group.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-15   6:27:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Paul Revere (#7)

There are only 16% of Americans who believe the president's story on 9-11.

Congratulations for being in that group.

Snaps fingers in front of your face---FOCUS>

This article is not about believing the govt's story - this article said - and you agreed - that the govt said the steel melted. Right? Still with me? I then posted showing the govt did not say the steel melted - only that the fire weakened the steel. Did you not read what I wrote? A 5th grader would have.

Do you concede that this Rense article is incorrect in this fact and that the govt did not say the jet fuel melted the steel?

Destro  posted on  2007-04-15   12:50:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Destro (#11) (Edited)

I'm referring to the poll taken by the New York Times and CBS in October of 2006, which revealed that only 16% of Americans believe the official 9-11 story, and 57% believe Bush had actual, prior knowledge of the attacks.

You can take up YOUR points with someone on the thread who cares about whatever obtuse point you think you're making.

I'm commenting on the fact that you're in the small minority who hover over every word of every government statement, as if it were Moses bringing down the tablets.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-15   13:58:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Paul Revere (#14)

I'm referring to the poll taken by

Well Jesus H. Christ - I am talking about this article and it's first claim.

Stay on topic.

I guess you are not an empiricist - you don't care for the truth - whatever that truth may be - you just care about the fantasy scenario you have accept - every bit as fanciful as the govt thesis. That you don't want to discard evidence or claims proven false tells me you value the story over the facts.

Destro  posted on  2007-04-16   11:26:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Destro (#34)

Well Jesus H. Christ - I am talking about this article and it's first claim.

Stay on topic.

I guess you are not an empiricist - you don't care for the truth - whatever that truth may be - you just care about the fantasy scenario you have accept - every bit as fanciful as the govt thesis. That you don't want to discard evidence or claims proven false tells me you value the story over the facts.

Well aren't you in a snit?!

It's a poll. I referred to it. If you don't like it, tough titty.

Why don't you go look up the poll, read the source data, specifically found at page 30, question 78?

That's the TRUTH you're so afraid to admit.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-16   15:57:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Paul Revere (#35)

Do you accept as false Rense's claim that the govt said the steel beams melted? Then we can go from there - this survey was never mentioned by me and your attempt to introduce is is an attempt top skirt the issue.

Destro  posted on  2007-04-16   16:03:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#37. To: Destro (#36)

Do you accept as false Rense's claim that the govt said the steel beams melted? Then we can go from there - this survey was never mentioned by me and your attempt to introduce is is an attempt top skirt the issue.

I never said anything about Rense.

But I'm pretty sure you're supposed to do it twice.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-16 16:09:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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