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Title: French "knew in 2001 al Qaeda was planning hijack"
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL1612543820070416
Published: Apr 16, 2007
Author: staff
Post Date: 2007-04-16 09:16:14 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 180
Comments: 21

PARIS (Reuters) - French secret services produced nine reports between September 2000 and August 2001 looking at the al Qaeda threat to the United States, and knew it planned to hijack an aircraft, the French daily Le Monde said on Monday.

The newspaper said it had obtained 328 pages of classified documents that showed foreign agents had infiltrated Osama bin Laden's network and were carefully tracking its moves.

One document prepared in January 2001 was entitled "Plan to hijack an aircraft by Islamic radicals", and said the operation had been discussed in Kabul at the start of 2000 by al Qaeda, Taliban and Chechen militants.

The hijack was meant to happen between March and September 2000 but the planners put it back "because of differences of opinion, particularly over the date, objective and participants," Le Monde said, citing the report.

The attacks on U.S. cities that eventually took place on September 11, 2001 killed almost 3,000 people.

Le Monde said the French report of January 2001 had been handed over to a CIA operative in Paris, but that no mention of it had ever been made in the official U.S. September 11 Commission, which produced its findings in July 2004.

The newspaper quoted a former senior official at France's DGSE secret service agency as saying that, although France thought a hijack was being planned, the DGSE did not know that the plot involved flying aircraft into buildings.

"You have to remember that a plane hijack (in January 2001) did not have the same significance as it did after September 11. At the time, it implied forcing a plane to land at an airport and undertaking negotiations," said Pierre-Antoine Lorenzi.

Le Monde said the documents showed the French believed bin Laden was still receiving help from family members and senior officials in Saudi Arabia ahead of September 11, 2001, despite attempts to clamp down on the network after al Qaeda's attacks on U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Le Monde said the French report of January 2001 had been handed over to a CIA operative in Paris,

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At the time, it implied forcing a plane to land at an airport and undertaking negotiations," said Pierre-Antoine Lorenzi.

Meanwhile at the Arabs-R-Us Flight Training School stateside: "Yes, we want to be qualified to fly the 767 and 757 but we can skip that part about landing."

Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.

wbales  posted on  2007-04-16   9:48:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

French believed bin Laden was still receiving help from family members and senior officials in Saudi Arabia ahead of September 11, 2001

The BushBakerCheneySaudiInc at work.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-04-16   9:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: wbales (#1)

More evidence that the US knew and chose to do nothing.

Ada  posted on  2007-04-16   12:00:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#0)

There is more here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/16/91939/7856

I could never figure out why Bush and company opened up with their demonization campaign against the French. It was the entire security council that humiliated Bush by telling him to go to hell when Bush tried to go back to get his second resolution for the attack on Iraq. So why didn't Bush demonize the rest of the world instead of just the French?

The Germans were noting that there probably no WMD to support the invasion and the British press was crucifying Bush and Blair. But the GOP controlled press worked overtime to target the French and only the French. The GOP representatives of course mouthed the talking points.

This might be the reason why the French were targeted.

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...  posted on  2007-04-16   12:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ... (#4)

I could never figure out why Bush and company opened up with their demonization campaign against the French. It was the entire security council that humiliated Bush by telling him to go to hell when Bush tried to go back to get his second resolution for the attack on Iraq. So why didn't Bush demonize the rest of the world instead of just the French?

The US understood why Schroeder had to disown the US invasion and believed that once he was elected he would forget his election promise. No doubt he would have if he could have but the electorate kept his feet to the fire. He did provide help under the counter, i.e., intelligence.

Russia, being Russia, nothing was expected of it except the hope that it would abstain rather than veto. France, OTOH, was expected to go along so its defection hurt.

Ada  posted on  2007-04-16   13:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

Well, well. So in spite of all the "hate the French" hysterial whipped up by the Bush shills and Faux News, it was the French who provided intelligence warning the US. Meanwhile, the Israelis withheld evidence as their "art student" Mossadniks danced with joy over the successful attacks.

France stood to gain nothing by not preventing 9/11. The Mossad and its Neoconservative mouthpieces stood to gain everything.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-04-16   14:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#6)

This story serves two functions for the Bush administration and the neocons. First, it fuels the "hate France" hysteria whipped up by Faux News. Second, it distracts attention from the very real evidence that Israeli intelligence (not French) knew about 9/11 and didn't say a word.

France stood to gain nothing by not preventing 9/11. The Mossad and its Neoconservative mouthpieces stood to gain everything.

Yup. Cui bono?

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-04-16   14:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#6)

How does this story makes France look bad? I'm afraid I do not understand you.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-16   14:34:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: aristeides (#8)

French secret services produced nine reports between September 2000 and August 2001 looking at the al Qaeda threat to the United States, and knew it planned to hijack an aircraft, the French daily Le Monde said on Monday.

Le Monde is still a neocon mouthpiece. This paragraph does seem to suggest that the French had foreknowledge and did not tell anyone in the U.S.

Even if the paper says that the January 2001 report was handed over to a CIA official, we have already seen that the CIA dropped the ball on so many occasions leading up to the events of 9-11-2001 that the agency could be said to be complicit.

It does seem to be factual that Bin Laden was still receiving help from family and Saudi officials. However, it is unclear that the ties were used to fund the attacks. It is more likely that the Pakis were intimately involved as the ISI had long-standing connections not only with the CIA, but with MI6 and Mossad.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-04-16   14:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BTP Holdings (#9)

Une note du 5 janvier 2001, transmise au chef de poste de la CIA (Agence centrale de renseignement) américaine à Paris, alertait sur "un projet de détournement d'avion". La note ne prévoyait pas le mode opératoire des attentats du 11-Septembre, mais elle voyait juste sur les intentions de Ben Laden.

The Le Monde story says that the French gave the CIA chief in Paris a note on Jan. 5, 2001, warning about a plane hijacking.

I hadn't noticed that this story seems to omit that significant detail of the story.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-16   14:58:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

Le Monde said the French report of January 2001 had been handed over to a CIA operative in Paris

Actually, the Reuters report does mention that detail after all.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-16   14:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: BTP Holdings (#9)

I see now that you say the CIA might have failed to pass on the warning. That seems unlikely to me. But, even if that's what happened, I repeat that I don't see how this story makes the French look bad.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-16   15:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: BTP Holdings. everyone here (#9) (Edited)

It is more likely that the Pakis were intimately involved as the ISI had long-standing connections not only with the CIA, but with MI6 and Mossad.

I'm sure that all those agencies knew, but only our gov could have scheduled all the NORAD drills/stand-downs to insure mass-confusion, our gov disarmed the pilots two months pre-911, our gov ordered the demolition charges set, our gov ordered the remote controllers placed in the planes, the destruction of the crime scene, and on, and on, and on.

Yes, there was foreign knowlege and possible complicity, but they were not the originators and enablers of 9/11. imo

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-16   15:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lodwick (#13)

I agree.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-04-16   15:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lodwick (#13)

only our gov could have scheduled all the NORAD drills/stand-downs to insure mass-confusion, our gov disarmed the pilots two months pre-911, our gov ordered the demolition charges set, our gov ordered the remote controllers placed in the planes, the destruction of the crime scene, and on, and on, and on.

Agreed. And most of those things could not have been done by the CIA alone. And on Jan. 5, 2001, an administration was still in power that had shown no willingness to do that sort of thing.

It's possible, I suppose, that the CIA guy in Paris failed to pass on the French warning because he was already in on the conspiracy. But he wouldn't have done so because he was carrying out the wishes of his political superiors at the time.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-16   15:09:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin, lodwick (#14)

The Bush Crime Family has benefitted enormously from 9-11, and so has the military-industrial-banking complex. One thing we should remember also is that Binny Netanyahu was caught in an interview on Sept. 12th saying that 9-11 was very beneficial for Israel. Pray, tell, Binny, how so? ;0)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-04-16   15:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: aristeides (#8)

Sorry, I misread the story. I missed the part of the information being passed on before the fact. I thought that it was implying that France did not inform the US.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-04-16   15:41:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: aristeides, BTP Holdings, robin, all (#15)

I guess we would all agree that anyone who still believes the "nineteen arabs with boxcutters" story is not quite a critical thinker.

I'm sick of all the lies and the corruption.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-16   15:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#17)

We all misread things. I at first also failed to notice that was in the Reuters story (although, having already seen the Le Monde story, I knew it was there.)

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-16   15:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ada (#3)

More evidence that the US knew and chose to do nothing.

I see it as more evidence that Bush knew and helped out in every way he could.


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Critter  posted on  2007-04-16   19:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ada, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#0)

The issue goes back as far as 1995, when "Operation Bojinka" was uncovered in Manila. The hijacking of Air France Flight 8969 confirmed the "Islamic" intentions.

There wasn't a trace of surprise to 9-11; NONE!

(Whether or not one believes the 'official' line!)


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SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-16   19:12:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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