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Title: Who and What is “Israel”?
Source: We The People Foundation
URL Source: http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/Update2007-04-15.htm
Published: Apr 15, 2007
Author: We The People Foundation
Post Date: 2007-04-19 00:15:52 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 137
Comments: 6

Preface

We have received a second round of emails relating to our hypothesis that U.S. aid to the State of Israel is repugnant to the General Welfare clause of the Constitution. As with the first round of responses, there is more agreement than disagreement.

Because we are interested in the truth and care about people whose feelings we may have hurt or whose treasured shibboleths we may have undermined, we endeavor herein to once again objectively, intelligently and rationally respond to our critics.

However, there is a danger. With each new article, round of emails and responses to those emails, our readers may lose sight of the fundamental Constitutional question before us. This is especially true as we respond more and more to critics whose criticisms are based on biblical doctrine and philosophy, esoteric or otherwise.


Please remember, as you read this article, our hypothesis is what is important here, and our hypothesis is not the result of any ill-will toward Israel, Jews, AIPAC or apostate Evangelical Christian groups. Our hypothesis is aimed squarely at the United States Government in defense of the Constitution and individual Rights, no more or less.

Our hypothesis is as follows:

1) U.S. tax money is being used to oppress and destroy the Palestinian society;
2) in response, the Palestinians and their sympathizers are attacking the United States;
3) in reply, the United States has instituted a domestic War on Terror;
4) the War on Terror has given rise to a growing Police State in the U.S.;
5), the Police State has resulted in an across the board erosion of individual Freedoms, Rights and Liberties; and 6), therefore, U.S. financial aid to Israel is violative of the General Welfare Clause of the Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 1).

If anyone can show that the hostilities being directed toward the United States and the War on Terror has nothing to do with our funding of Israel’s occupation and oppression of the Palestinian people, we beg them to do so.

In the meantime, we are not to close our eyes to violations of the General Welfare clause of the Constitution because we have a personal/political relationship with a particular association, and see only other violations, say, violations of the tax clauses.

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#1. To: robin (#0)

We have received a second round of emails relating to our hypothesis that U.S. aid to the State of Israel is repugnant to the General Welfare clause of the Constitution.

Jefferson would've disagreed.

Tauzero  posted on  2007-04-19   8:19:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tauzero (#1)

Our hypothesis is as follows:

1) U.S. tax money is being used to oppress and destroy the Palestinian society;

2) in response, the Palestinians and their sympathizers are attacking the United States;

3) in reply, the United States has instituted a domestic War on Terror;

4) the War on Terror has given rise to a growing Police State in the U.S.;

5), the Police State has resulted in an across the board erosion of individual Freedoms, Rights and Liberties; and

6), therefore, U.S. financial aid to Israel is violative of the General Welfare Clause of the Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 1).

Nothing to disagree with here.

robin  posted on  2007-04-19   10:23:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#4. To: robin, Paul Revere (#3)

Nothing to disagree with here.

I object to (6), and I think Jefferson would, were he alive.

(6) is consistent with supporting "whatsoever they shall think or pretend will be for the general welfare" which Jefferson rejected. (6) grants that US aid to Israel would be o.k. constitutionally, provided it forwards or is believed to forward the general welfare.

The constitution prospectively prescribes a set of processes, powers of state, and their general ends. Whether the use of a power is constitutional does not depend on the result of that use. Congress has the power to declare war; if the United States loses a declared war, the war is not therefore post facto unconstitutional. A war is unconstitutional if unconstitutionally entered.

However, a war may be entered under false pretenses. If declared by congress in honesty, the war remains constitutional, but those who maneuvered entry are guilty of treason.

I certainly agree US aid to Israel is greatly destructive of the general welfare, but the "general welfare clause" is just that -- general -- and followed by a list of particulars. US financial aid to Israel is not unconstitutional because it is bad for the US. US aid is unconstitutional, period.

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