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Title: Photo Evidence of US Military Psyop [Cho Seung Hui]
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URL Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cho_Seung-hui
Published: Apr 19, 2007
Author: wikipedia via LF
Post Date: 2007-04-19 07:05:54 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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Poster Comment: 32 dead? Pretty good shooten.
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#16. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
from what i read, this guy just lined em up against the wall and shot them. plus, lets remember that combat simulators and first person shooter games are so useful that the military uses them as well. so you can now have couch commandos who spend years in front of combat simulators via the xbox or whatever. to me, the real discrepancy here is the complete lack, once again, to follow any sort of reasonable or established protocol that is undoubtedly in place for emergency situations with the police and the university. waiting 2 hours, notifying via email, the police, who like in columbine, did nothing at all, and looked like they had the worst of the bunch working that day, all those things can't simply be written off as an ooopsie. to me i don't see that as anything but planned incompetence. (neologism, and a beauty). planned incompetence is the way all black ops are run, just look at 911.
"Inability to accept the mystic experience is more than an intellectual handicap. Lack of awareness of the basic unity of organism and environment is a serious and dangerous hallucination. For in a civilization equipped with immense technological power, the sense of alienation between man and nature leads to the use of technology in a hostile spirit---to the "conquest" of nature instead of intelligent co-operation with nature." -Alan Watts /
privacy laws didn’t allow VT to share that information So leftists favor "privacy" and righties don't? Just to be clear on your definitions...
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
In this case, yes. The system of American higher "education" is a viper’s nest of leftist sperm, whose sole mission is to indoctrinate our youth. This psychotic was ID as a head case in '05? and VTs response was to do squat. Go ahead and research these federal privacy laws, but I'd bet they weren't hatched by the Federalist Society.
I think you give the "lefties" too much credit. While it is true that English Departments, Sociology departments and Poli-Sci departments probably sport a disproportionate number of "lefties", there are plenty of conservatives in the business schools and in the science departments. As for the "privacy" issue, the first champions of that were righties like Barry Goldwater, the classic conservative, who would have abhorred the nanny state idea that the government should pick up and grab someone just because someone else (in this case a bunch of leftie English profs, including, God Forbid, a self-styled "poet") had sensed something threatening about him. If you paid attention to the facts of this particular case, you would have seen that it was the "lefties" who were kicking him out of classes, reporting him to the school shrink and complaining about the morbid nature of his essays. Of course, paying attention to the facts and identities of the case would require an understanding that nothing about this case fits into a neat idealogical framework like "left" and "right", that this is a colossal tragedy for everyone, and that incompetence knows no idealogical preferences.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
That liberal attempt at punishment occurred in '05. Fast forward two years to this weeks slaughter and said head case remained a student in good standing at VT. Had it not been for an ACLU driven concept called deinstitutionalization (circa mid 70s) this wacko would have received the necessary shock treatments, lobotomy, deportation and/or simple permanent incarceration in a local nut house.
Mike Rivero on the 2 hours: 1. Shoot people 2. Make video. 3. Transfer to computer. 4. Burn disk. 5. Wrap package. 6. Go to post office. 7. Buy postage. 8. Put postage on package. 9. Mail package. 10. Shoot more people. The video in this thread: "we continue to sacrifice..."
Virginia Tech Shooting: I've Already Seen Enough [shooter's sister is a Spook]
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
Would also eliminate about 50% of the nations police, since many are on anti- depressants. Let's not use this as an excuse to go after the rights of those taking medication for depression. This guy was a lot more than depressed. Depression alone is not mental illness in the sense that many think, i.e. danger to selves or others, especially while on medication. The skads of folks sufferring from depression out there who are NOT getting treatment are of much more concern. This guy was psychotic, not depressed. Big difference.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Hey, I thought this guy was a loner. Who is his buddy?
Learning the mechanics of a firearm, is not the same as learning how to hit what you're aiming at. Reading this other guy's post makes me think he's in the same camp as Penn and Teller when it comes to the Kennedy Assasination, and firing 3 rounds in less than 7 seconds, while looking through a scope, and firing on a moving target. I myself am a VERY good shot with both rifle and pistol, and believe that this kid had to have spent some time at a gun range, or had some training in order to make accurate shots. Even if he lined them up and shot them execution style, it doesn't take away from the fact that he'd still have to aim and shoot. Not to mention pass the FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECK, WHICH HE SHOULDN'T HAVE!!!
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
John Doe Number 2. Pay it no mind.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
It is never the mechanics of firing a handgun. You have to be willing. If you practice enough, especially at a combat range, you MIGHT develop the instincts of a gunfighter through repetition: "See the threat, draw, shoot." That has to do with an actual threat to you or another person. This guy was willing to kill unarmed people. The timeline is a real killer. Do the first killings. Make a DVD. Package up all the goodies for NBC (why THEM?). Go to the Post Office. Go back to campus. Do some more killing. I can see him offing himself after making the video and leaving it. The rest is too weird. He just shot two people. Why did he think there would be no law enforcement response at all until he had done all of the damage?
While I agree that there are "SKADS" of folks that are depressed, some being "treated" while others aren't, there are many just dealing with it. The root problem is with the causes of depression which I attribute to a world that is hell bound, restrictive, over-regulated and unnecessarily repressive/oppressive. It seems to me that many people are too willing to just take some dope rather than address the real problem. Whether the dope is from off the street, behind the bar or from a legitimized dope peddler (pharmacist) it's only masking the problem and when the cure wears off the problem remains and is sometimes increased due to problems incurred while "medicated". There's no question that a real dilemma exists. Depression and real psychosis exist and may never be resolved. I have often wondered why suicides are kept quiet rather than publicized and explored. There are far more of them than we are made aware of because the system doesn't want us to stop and ask "WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE HATE LIFE ENOUGH TO KILL THEMSELVES and others" ? A world in a constant state of war, that promotes violence in every aspect of the media (for profit), and a people satisfied to allow it or medicate themselves to tolerate it are doomed to depression.
14th Amendment / Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. [You have the right to remain silent, shut up and pay your taxes peasants ... hehehehehe].
you make some excellent points. The people that do themselves in, however, don't hate life. They have reached a point where the pain exceeds their resources to cope, and thus, do themselves in to escape the pain. It's sad. Our society is screwed in so many ways, many of which you describe and that's enough to make a lot of people depressed.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition I believe that his little packet to the media was already assembled that morning. It takes time to edit video footage, and compile. More than a couple hours. This thing was set up well in advance of the rampage.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
Two Photos Of Cho Show Different Men (?) April 18, MSNBC, Scarborough Country -- Michele Kosinski reports at about 10:13 PM eastern time that Cho's roommates say they do not recognize him in the film from the package sent to NBC. Comment Webmaster I believe it is the same person, and the images differ for good reason. In the first picture, a school ID shot, Cho is a bit slimmer and facing the camera directly. Someone else is shooting. In the second, he is clearly suffering the full effects of his madness (shot the day of the killings -- he looks exhausted and dazed), is a bit fatter, sans glasses and it is a video camera freeze frame where he is turning the camera down to shoot his own face, the camera somewhat elevated, so it foreshortens his appearance, especially the ears. The video image is a bit distorted and wide which is also not uncommon. In the first pic, he has hair, in the second he is shaved, almost bald. Compare the facial features, they are the same. Compare the lips, shape and size of the mouth along with the philtrum (the groove under the nose) above the lip. If you look closely, though the lighting is bad in the second shot, the uneven pigmentation of the sides of his lower lip are exactly the same. The arc and pitch of the eyebrows is the same. The eyes are the same, though with utterly different expressions from one pic to the next. The peculiar curl at the top of his left (our left) ear is evident in both shots. The two pictures are different because they were taken at two different occasions using two completely different photographic mediums and methods.
He sent the video to NBC. MSNBC IS THE ONLY NETWORK WITH 3 Jesuit trained commentators ie Russert, Matthews, McLaughlin . See Coral Snake's post about the Vatican.
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
Cho clearly had help to make the videos (and not in a "2 hour time frame")...I believe the dorm shooter is walking free.
Detractor? No, Itisa1mosttoolate. I'm simply asking questions. I thought the defense department angle was interesting so I posted it to add more information to this body of work. As far as focusing on those who know something about govt ops, where's this Paul Revere person from...he's been on 4Um what, a month?
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi
Yes.
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi
The people who say he made this video bullshit in the 2 hour span are full of fucking shit, and or stupid. I cannot believe the shit these people come up with. The packet he sent, if he was the one who sent it, was made WELL IN ADVANCE. It takes time to burn cds, or dvds, let alone make videos and edit them. This clown had this shit done in advance, if you belive the lone gunman theory, he made the packet in advance, and then went on a rampage that day. He shot some people, mailed out his package, and then went back and shot some more people, which tells me that this guy obviously knew that he would be able to do this sort of thing. How is it that a guy who shoots two people in an elevator, is able to get away with out any blood on him, or be seen by other students on campus coming from the crimescene? More importantly, how does one shoot two people without drawing attention to himself, LEAVING A SURVIVOR BEHIND, WHO WAS THE BOYFRIEND, WHO HAPPENED TO RUN AWAY FROM CAMPUS AFTER IT HAPPENED??? WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT ABOUT? The police say they were tailing a suspect in a truck, that happened to be the boyfriend. Why didn't the boyfriend call the fucking cops, or did he??? There's a lot of things wrong with the way this story came out, and how things fall into place.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
Reading this other guy's post makes me think he's in the same camp as Penn and Teller when it comes to the Kennedy Assasination, and firing 3 rounds in less than 7 seconds, while looking through a scope, and firing on a moving target. I myself am a VERY good shot with both rifle and pistol, and believe that this kid had to have spent some time at a gun range, or had some training in order to make accurate shots. Even if he lined them up and shot them execution style, it doesn't take away from the fact that he'd still have to aim and shoot. Not to mention pass the FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECK, WHICH HE SHOULDN'T HAVE!!! I think there may have been a second guy, probably the one who shot this douche bag after the incident. I'm not convinced he acted alone, or that he was not a managed asset.
Yes, it appears he may have had help, and lots of it.
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2007/04/copycat-effect.html Reader: The return address on the package sent to NBC was 88 revol dr revol - lover Page 11 of the pdf manifesto shows Number of the Anti-Terrorist 88 Veritas. I've read of them before. The sister is probably the way the spooks found out about the brother and his mental problems. Someone picked him and got him ready. A kid like him is ripe for use by spooks for an operation like this one. Thanks for the link. We can be sure the defense contractors who run the media will not mention any of this.
Absolutely! He had to have the photos and videos done ahead of time. His roommate was home and was sleeping in that hour or two, during which time the photos would have been taken in the room or next to it. I do not believe that is the way it went down. We are so screwed. Our media and public events have never been this controlled in American history, and it's frightening to see it all slipping away.
When you're reduced to whining about how long a poster has been around, you know you're beat. Suck it up, sparky.
No one's whining, just pointing out the facts. You're the one making accusations you can't back up.
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi
Either say something substantive about the topic or go blow yourself.
I posted a url disussing the sister's employment with the DoD. WTF are you ranting about?
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi
Fess up, Paul Revere! Are you Badeye?
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
According to the MSM, Hui was a 23-year-old English major with absolutely no known military training, but the picture below shows him in a U.S. Marine Corps Digital Camouflage uniform which is proprietary. And no, it cannot be purchased at surplus stores. The Eagle, Globe and Anchor symbols are embedded in the fabric itself. What he exercised was a full assault designed for close quarters combat (CQB) emphasizing close range engagements with a higher rate of target acquisition and lethality. All of this was done with "Zero known training"? Not likely! Also, "Ismael Ax" is tattooed on Hui's arm. That name also appeared in the documents that he (supposedly, by himself) had sent to NBC. On the package, the senders name was "A Ismael". Ismael Ax just might be an anagram of some kind. Back in Biblical times, in the Old Testament, Ismael was the first Arab to come from the union of Hagar and Abraham. If this is an Israeli opt, labeling him as an Arab just might be a sign of who's to come next in the bombing campaign for the 'war on terror' ... the Asian continents.
Why don't you go to a kiddie forum if you're going to act like a child? I don't have any idea who badeye is, and don't care. That's the second time you've said that. Do it again, and I'll dump your ass in the bozo file with BAC.
I am fairly convinced he was a managed asset of spooks who made this event happen, right down to his tattoo reference.
Who's the other guy in the pic??
Sounds like a modern Jewish name, to me. What such would represent is a mystery, for the moment.
A Jew?
Ishmael is clearly a reference to Islam, to Arabs, and to Palestinians. Ishmael's ax was used by Ibrihim to tear down idols of false gods. Therefore, I conclude that Ishmael's ax is a weapon or tool to be used by the righteous against his enemies.
The mystery is who and what Hui was, but I think we're on the right track.
My fear is that he's the patsy for absolute gun control - OR - the registry of all those with mental problems of any sort, including depression. If "The System" selectively locked onto 'mental illness' as a lever against the individual, they would have control over a huge percentage of any population. "Vee haff vays uff dealink viss your kine; you look so very down. Maybe I haff you evaluated; jah? OR, you juss do your job, Jah?"
HIPAA, the federal medical privacy act, was passed by the Republican Congress in 1996.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
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#17. To: Dempsy (#3)
What happened at VT is a culmination of mass psychosis of the left
#18. To: bluedogtxn (#17)
#19. To: Dempsy (#18)
In this case, yes. The system of American higher "education" is a viper’s nest of leftist sperm, whose sole mission is to indoctrinate our youth.
#20. To: bluedogtxn (#19)
If you paid attention to the facts of this particular case, you would have seen that it was the "lefties" who were kicking him out of classes, reporting him to the school shrink and complaining about the morbid nature of his essays.
#21. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, TheSilverFox, christine, All (#0)
#22. To: TheSilverFox, All (#21)
#23. To: Dempsy, noone222 (#5)
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Especially if they are taking mind altering drugs ! That would effectively eliminate app. 90% of America's population, given that alcohol is indeed mind altering.
In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX
"Peace? There's no money in peace! What we need is a war!"
--Three Stooges
#24. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#25. To: Paul Revere (#14)
#26. To: roughrider (#24)
#27. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#25)
#28. To: IndieTX (#23)
The skads of folks sufferring from depression out there who are NOT getting treatment are of much more concern. This guy was psychotic, not depressed. Big difference.
#29. To: noone222 (#28)
The root problem is with the causes of depression which I attribute to a world that is hell bound, restrictive, over-regulated and unnecessarily repressive/oppressive.
#30. To: roughrider (#27)
#31. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
http://www.rense.com/general76/cho.htm
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#32. To: Eoghan (#31)
#33. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#32)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#34. To: Paul Revere, Itisa1mosttoolate (#15)
you're wasting your time trying to discuss this with your detractors. Those guys specialize in disinformation, redirecting threads to some extraneous point they create. Ignore them entirely, and focus on those who do know something about government and military operations. Angle and Mertle Turtle don't.
#35. To: bluedogtxn (#19)
this is a colossal tragedy for everyone
#36. To: Eoghan (#33)
#37. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#25)
Learning the mechanics of a firearm, is not the same as learning how to hit what you're aiming at.
#38. To: TheSilverFox (#21)
#39. To: Paul Revere (#38)
Trend...a possible Neo-nazi reference, a human robot killer, and an agenda (with Holocaust propaganda).
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#40. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#22)
Virginia Tech Shooting: I've Already Seen Enough [shooter's sister is a Spook]
#41. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#30)
believe that his little packet to the media was already assembled that morning. It takes time to edit video footage, and compile. More than a couple hours. This thing was set up well in advance of the rampage.
#42. To: angle (#34)
As far as focusing on those who know something about govt ops, where's this Paul Revere person from...he's been on 4Um what, a month?
#43. To: Paul Revere, Itisa1mosttoolate, christine (#42)
When you're reduced to whining about how long a poster has been around
#44. To: angle (#43)
No one's whining, just pointing out the facts. You're the one making accusations you can't back up
#45. To: Paul Revere (#44)
Either say something substantive about the topic or go blow yourself.
#46. To: angle, Paul Revere (#34)
As far as focusing on those who know something about govt ops, where's this Paul Revere person from...he's been on 4Um what, a month?
#47. To: Paul Revere, Itisa1mosttoolate, (#38)
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Yes, it appears he may have had help, and lots of it.
#48. To: bluedogtxn (#46)
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Fess up, Paul Revere! Are you Badeye?
#49. To: TheSilverFox (#47)
#50. To: TheSilverFox (#47)
#51. To: TheSilverFox (#47)
Also, "Ismael Ax" is tattooed on Hui's arm.
#52. To: Lady X (#50)
#53. To: TheSilverFox (#52)
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#54. To: SKYDRIFTER (#51)
#55. To: TheSilverFox (#54)
#56. To: Dempsy (#18)
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