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Title: Photo Evidence of US Military Psyop [Cho Seung Hui]
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URL Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cho_Seung-hui
Published: Apr 19, 2007
Author: wikipedia via LF
Post Date: 2007-04-19 07:05:54 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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#64. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#10)

KCIA works closely with the U.S. in many instances. That this would be a military PSYOP is no great surprise. He was a dead shot, it seems, almost impossible without much practice and training.

I caught a blurb on radio news this morning where they said the shooter called Klebold and Harris (the Columbine shooters) "martyrs."

This is very indicative of a mind control subject.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-04-20   11:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Paul Revere, aristeides, kamala, leveller, Burkeman1, christine, robin, anyone else (#48)

bluedogtxn: "Fess up, Paul Revere! Are you Badeye?"

Paul Revere: "Why don't you go to a kiddie forum if you're going to act like a child?

I don't have any idea who badeye is, and don't care.

That's the second time you've said that. Do it again, and I'll dump your ass in the bozo file with BAC."

Hmmm. Now who do I recall taking that remonstrative tone with me before and calling me childish. Hmmmmmm. Lemme think here....

LIBERTY POST:

"You won't have to bother posting to me in the future. I'm placing you on filter, and I know you only get five posts per 24 hour cycle.

Use them wisely, and don't waste them on me.

Thanks in advance,

Badeye"

I'm just sayin'.

Now, "Paul Revere", if that is your real name, you can put me on bozo if you want to, and that's fine. I post a lot of stuff here, and you'll miss a lot of it, and that's certainly your privilege. I'm sure some folks here have me on bozo already. But then you won't be able to see it when I connect your posts to those of Badeye and demonstrate a marked similarity, both in tone and in content and in style of posting.

Or, you can laugh this off, although frankly, you don't much seem the type to laugh stuff off. Which is, interestingly, kinda the way badeye was. He was also an idealogical chameleon, well capable of taking on a liberal or libertarian type personality. He was also an insanely addicted poster, jumping on every thread around (which in fairness, I do also) and I find it hard to believe Goldi could ban him and he'd just stop.

He was also quick to threaten "the filter" and he was also quick to call others childish or stupid or say things like "if you're not going to be serious, I don't have any time for you." Oddly similar to the tone you've taken.

I could definitely see him showing up here, taking on a different persona, and engaging his addiction to posting.

For my part, he'd be very welcome, so long as he understood that in this forum civility is more the norm than the exception, and tone and respect for each other (even those you can't stand) are SOP (we all make an exception for BeAChooser, because he's so often used El Pee as a place from which to insult christine, whom we all love without exception).

I know that there are others who would toss Badeye out on his ass if they knew it was him.

It would be completely unfair of me to assume that you are Badeye. And I do not. However, as I've said many times, paranoia is a survival trait in a decidership. If I'm being paranoid, you'd do better to forgive me so that we can reach an understanding than to just bozo me, which would only heighten my suspicion.

Badeye was, if not quite my friend, at least someone whom I respected and felt I could share a beer with. Most folks here didn't feel that way about him, but I did.

So you decide what you want to do.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-20   11:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: aristeides (#62)

Who said that?

I believe it was inferred - him and Islam. It was in one of the many reports I've read this past week. Look for it, I'm sure you can find it.

TheSilverFox  posted on  2007-04-20   11:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: TheSilverFox (#66)

If there's anything to your claim, I'm sure you can present evidence.

Cho's statements about Jesus Christ certainly seem to contradict any view that he was a Moslem.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-20   11:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

But where and what is the photo evidence? Did I miss something?


A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!

Critter  posted on  2007-04-20   11:32:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: aristeides (#67)

Yes, Cho's quoted statements about Jesus Christ in the MSM rags does seem to be contradicting, but even Muslims respect Jesus Christ MUCH more than the Jews who, in print, actually place Christ in burning hot excrement for all eternity. The Muslims regard Jesus Christ as a prophet.

If and when I have time to dig, I just may. For now, see this post and if you have time now, you may start your own research. BTW, a common Chinese (or Asian) term for Islam is "the religion of the Hui". ;-)

TheSilverFox  posted on  2007-04-20   11:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: bluedogtxn (#65)

Most folks here didn't feel that way about him

Amen.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-04-20   11:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: TheSilverFox (#69)

This post? If you look a few posts up from that one, you'll see I posted the whole report from Wayne Madsen. As far as I can see, Madsen says not a thing about Cho possibly being a Moslem.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-20   11:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: aristeides (#71)

Expand you scope. Wayne Madsen is only one person.

Google: "Cho Seung Hui+Islam"

TheSilverFox  posted on  2007-04-20   11:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: bluedogtxn, Paul Revere (#65)

Badeye's a jerk. This guy's posts are hateful in a way I never remember seeing in Badeye's. I am very suspicious of his real motives.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-20   11:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: TheSilverFox (#72)

Why should I waste any time on such a search until I see evidence that there might be some value to it?

Connecting the VA Tech massacre with Moslems would very much suit the Bush administration and the neocons. That I know.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-20   11:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: aristeides (#74)

Look, if it suits the Bush Admin and NeoCons, you can guarantee that someone in the media made the suggestion to connect the tattoo to Islam. There's boo-koo shit on Google suggesting this.

TheSilverFox  posted on  2007-04-20   11:50:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: TheSilverFox (#75)

I can easily believe some idiots on the Web are suggesting this. I saw the thread on Free Republic yesterday. But do they have any evidence? Not to my knowledge. And you're not giving me any.

Look, if there were evidence, don't you think the neocons would be blaring it?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-20   11:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: bluedogtxn, Dempsy (#19)

In this case, yes. The system of American higher "education" is a viper’s nest of leftist sperm, whose sole mission is to indoctrinate our youth.

Its the cult of right wing victimhood.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-04-20   12:05:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: aristeides, ALL, everyone here (#76) (Edited)

Here's what I originally said, which you responded to, and I quote "Remember, Hui is said to have been a Muslim".

I was not making the claim that he was or he wasn't. I was simply speaking of the tactics of disinformation currently being used by the MSM. They base this upon the connection between the tattooed ax and Islam - period. Doing this illustrates to seasoned and skillful observers who participate on discussion boards these things, and maybe more: (1.) this falls in line with the overall agenda, namely the 'war on terror' and it's justification for the purging in the Middle East; (2.) gun control legislation - the Democrats are now in the majority (House/Senate) - passing such legislation is Easy-Peasy-Japanesey; (3.) hate crimes legislation has been resubmitted to the House - vote pending - this silences opposition to the overall agenda: 'war on terror'; etc.

TheSilverFox  posted on  2007-04-20   12:06:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: bluedogtxn (#65)

As you wish. Good bye.

I didn't read past your first paragraph, and won't.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-20   12:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: TheSilverFox (#78)

OK, I misunderstood you. Sorry.

If you look at Glenn Greenwald's latest column, you'll see that Charles Krauthammer did in fact try to connect the massacre with Islamist terrorists on TV on Wednesday. With zero evidence. And he's had to back down in his latest column.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-20   12:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: aristeides (#73)

I'm putting you on bozo, too, aris-tedious.

You've yet to write anything worth reading.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-20   12:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Paul Revere (#81)

Delighted to hear it.

Why don't you put all of us on Bozo?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-20   12:22:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: aristeides (#80)

Not a problem.

I missed that column, but at least Krauthammer had enough self-respect to back down.

Cheers.

TheSilverFox  posted on  2007-04-20   12:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: angle (#59) (Edited)

Credit to tgambill at LF:

I know Tom - Kosovo ex UN security chief - when he quit he submitted his security files to the press and Serbian think tanks. I asked him to go on Freerepublic for me when I was banned. Ismael Ax could just as well be his video game handle. The name he used to play video games online, etc.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-04-20   12:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Paul Revere (#79)

As you wish. Good bye.

I didn't read past your first paragraph, and won't.

Sayonara, Badeye.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-20   12:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: aristeides (#58)

in an 1800-word manifesto sent to NBC News, echoed some of the ramblings often heard from the neo-Nazi, Christian Identity, and Aryan movements. He used jargon such as "Democratic Terrorists," "Lovers of Terrorism and Sadism," "Crucifiers of the Innocents," "Apostles of Sin," and "descendants of Satan."

I disagree with Madsen on this.

I believe Madsen is being fed a certain amount of disinformation concerning these "movements." I've never noticed anything of the sort from groups which might be called Christian Identity, or any of the so-called neo-Nazi or Aryan groups. Specifically, I am totally unfamiliar with any such jargon coming from any of the preachers or other groups I am aware of as being slimed with the Christian Identity label. CI is another canard used to disparage another sect of Christianity.

Besides, I have a deep suspicion that many of the neo-Nazi (National Socialist) and Aryan groups have long ago been infiltrated and controlled by government agents, just as John Birch Society has been.

I wish Madsen would cite a few examples of this and name a few groups.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-04-20   13:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: BTP Holdings (#86)

See my post above...

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-04-20   13:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Eoghan (#39) (Edited)

The return address on the package sent to NBC was

88 revol dr

revol - lover

Page 11 of the pdf manifesto shows Number of the Anti-Terrorist 88

This is all one big set up. It smacks of what Michael A. Hoffman II says,

David Lane's 88 Precepts

88 Precepts

Until the white race realizes that there is only one source from which we can ascertain lasting truths, there will never be peace or stability on this earth. In the immutable Laws of Nature are the keys to life, order, and understanding. The words of men, even those which some consider "inspired" are subject to the translations, vocabulary, additions, subtractions, and distortions of fallible mortals. Therefore, every writing or influence, ancient or modern, must be strained through the test of conformity to Natural Law. The White Peoples of the earth must collectively understand that they are equally subject to the iron-hard Laws of Nature with every other creature of the Universe, or they will not secure peace, safety, nor even their existence. The world is in flames because Races, Sub-races, Nations, and Cultures are being forced to violate their own Nature-ordained instincts for self-preservation. Many men of good will, but little understanding, are struggling against symptoms which are the result of disobedience to Natural Law. As is the Nature of Man, most take narrow, provincial stances predicated on views formed by immediate environment, current circumstances, and conditioned dogma. This is encouraged by that powerful and ruthless Tribe which has controlled the affairs of the world for untold centuries by exploiting Man's most base instincts. Conflict among and between the unenlightened serves as their mask and shield. A deeper understanding of the Fundamental Laws that govern the affairs of Men is necessary if we are to save civilization from its usurious executioners. The following are not intended to provide a detailed system of government, but as PRECEPTS which, when understood, will benefit and preserve a People as individuals and as a Nation.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-04-20   13:35:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: All (#88)

More from Michael A. Hoffman II,

http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-04-20   13:59:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: BTP Holdings (#86)

I believe Madsen is being fed a certain amount of disinformation concerning these "movements." I've never noticed anything of the sort from groups which might be called Christian Identity, or any of the so-called neo-Nazi or Aryan groups. Specifically, I am totally unfamiliar with any such jargon coming from any of the preachers or other groups I am aware of as being slimed with the Christian Identity label. CI is another canard used to disparage another sect of Christianity.

Besides, I have a deep suspicion that many of the neo-Nazi (National Socialist) and Aryan groups have long ago been infiltrated and controlled by government agents, just as John Birch Society has been.

I agree. Christian Identity is flawed [Gal. 3:16-29, Rev. 5:9-10], but I don't see it being a threat, as much as Judeo-British Israelism is. The CIA/Illuminati has promoted and protected Christian Identity for the final attack on Christian America [Psalm 2] planned since at least 1871. [Three World Wars/Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations.]

CIA link: http://www.freedomdomain.com/racism.html

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-04-20   15:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: BTP Holdings (#86)

Besides, I have a deep suspicion that many of the neo-Nazi (National Socialist) and Aryan groups have long ago been infiltrated and controlled by government agents

I have a deep suspicion about anything Madsen writes.


A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!

Critter  posted on  2007-04-20   15:59:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: TheSilverFox (#47)

I had this though this morning.

The massacre happened on April 16th, 2007. 04-16-2007

Numerology makes it 9-11. 4+1+6= 11 2+0+0+7= 9

Funny coincedence eh?

Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-04-20   17:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Numerology Nuts (#92) (Edited)

Numerology is fascinating, and although I can play with number all day long, I don't get the significance.

Weapons: a .22 and a 9mm

It's odd having two different guns that use different ammo, but maybe there's something to it?

Each victim was shot at least 3 times, with a 22. Put the two together, you get 322, Skull and Bones.

... or

3 bullets per victim with a 9mm, would give us three nines. 999, the invert of 666.

TheSilverFox  posted on  2007-04-20   17:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: TheSilverFox (#93)

Funny isn't it how things start to create patterns.

Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-04-20   17:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#94)

It sure is, but I cannot imagine some loon sitting in a cubical at the DoD all damn day, mumbling to himself, thinking this crap up. Maybe that's not a stretch after all.

TheSilverFox  posted on  2007-04-20   17:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#90)

hi there! it's been awhile. nice to see you again.

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-20   17:51:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: christine (#96)

hi, christine. nice to see you again, too. missed ya!

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-04-20   22:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: bluedogtxn (#65)

I don't think Paul is Badeye. Badeye would be noticed over here right away, he's not too bright. Paul isn't dumb, just a little quick with the insults.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-04-21   4:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: RickyJ (#98) (Edited)

Good Lord.

This reminds me of the way mainstream media refuse to focus on real issues and instead obsess over personal controversies.

The accusation that a poster is really "someone else" is a pathetic attempt to inspire groupthink, and to attach to a poster the history associated with another. Those who routinely make such accusations tend to need group affirmation, and when struggling with another poster, seek the comfort of group identity. It's a very pubescent trait, most commonly seen in 13 year old girls.

I am not badeye. I don't know who badeye is, except for the weak ass references here. I've seen his name mentioned regarding other message boards, none of which I recognize.

So let's review.

1. I'm not the topic here.

2. Accusing other posters of being someone else is lame.

3. I'm not the asshole you hate. I'm a different asshole.

4. Words I don't mind being called:

Asshole

Jerk

Dickhead

POS

Doodoo head

Butt Reaming Asshole

Prick

Super Prick

Butt Munch

Dick on Wheels

Jackass

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-21   4:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Paul Revere (#99)

Ahhh, nice of you to offer a selection! So, if I were to call you a Butt-munching dickheaded super prick, it's no problem? Glad to hear it!

Actually, that would make a great punk band name... the Butt-Munching Dickheaded Super Pricks.... gotta certain ring to it.

Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2007-04-21   5:04:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Elliott Jackalope (#100)

It it makes you hap-py ...

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-21   5:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Paul Revere (#99)

Asshole

Jerk

Dickhead

POS

Doodoo head

Butt Reaming Asshole

Prick

Super Prick

Butt Munch

Dick on Wheels

Jackass

Variety is the spice of life. ;0)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-04-21   12:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#90)

http://www.freedomdomain.com/racism.html

The "born and raised" Jewish writer at that link is mistaken about CI being exclusively trained on the seed line theory of Eve having an affair with Satan as the origin of the Jews. That is just a small portion of preachers (and I consider them to be freaks and disinfo agents) and those I am familiar with do not espouse this nonsense.

Sorry, but CI is under attack by the Zionists and their ilk. If this writer wishes to say that CI is virlently racist, then I am proud to be a white Christian who is proud of his race.

The attempt to link a known FBI cointelpro opeeration at Elohim City to CI is another not so good try at discrediting the entire CI movement. CI is in fact merely another sect of Christianity, and nothing more. I'm sure the feds would love to have an incident similar to that of the Seventh Day Adventist splinter group at Waco, that of David Koresh and the Branch Davidians, to enable them to eliminate more white Christians in America who are a threat to the likes of Abe Foxman and the other ZioNazi freaks who have a persecution complex to complement their delusions of grandeur.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-04-21   12:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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