See other National News Articles
Title: Virginia Tech Shootings - Alex Jones has Jumped the Shark
Source:
infowars.com via libertyforum.org
URL Source: http://www.libertyforum.org/showfla ... 5&o=21&vc=1&t=-1#Post295425740
Published: Apr 19, 2007
Author: Destro commenting on Alex Jone, Paul Jos
Post Date: 2007-04-19 11:20:01 by Destro
Keywords: None
Views: 1013
Comments: 97
Virginia Tech Shootings - Alex Jones has Jumped the Shark If you go to Alex Jone's http://infowars.com website you will see the article entitled 'Was Virginia School Shooting Another Government Black-Op?' You will notice the question mark on the article - I guess they did not want to jump into conclusions so early in the shootings. But on his talk show Alex Jones does not even bother with the question mark. Right now he is still asserting that the Virginia Tech shooting was a Black-Ops. What's the proof? Proof? Who needs proof? To accept that the above was a black-op is to accept that the govt. can produce suicidal mass killers who kill on command and were brain washed like in the movies. Or another theory Alex Jones hints at is that the govt. used professional shooters - he slyly hints at this because right as I am typing this up he is doubting how a lone shooter can shoot so many so quickly. Say what? It's very easy! These handguns are made to rapid fire - ease of trigger action is a selling point! Maybe you all already know Alex jumped the shark a long time ago. He is a conspiracy monger after all. He makes his money on pushing conspiracies and the more conspiracies you push the more product you can push. So it makes sense that he would push what happened in Virginia as a conspiracy and assert the killer was a victim of CIA mind control. Whatever sells his DVDs to the rubes.
Poster Comment: http://clichesofpolitics.com/paranoias.htm Right-Wing Conspiracy Theories and Left-Wing Conspiracy Theories Compared
Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
Comments (1-57) not displayed.
.
.
.
#58. To: Destro (#51)
Quick Destro, save the world from Liberty Post, they are attacking these students as sheep unwilling to defend themselves. Title: MISSING AT VIRGINIA TECH: A CULTURE OF SELF- DEFENSE (http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=184444&Disp=49#C49) American kids used to routinely take boxing lessons. It was called, "The Manly Art of Self Defense." Imagine that today. We are raising castratos. Travis McGee posted on 2007-04-19 06:58:15 ET I get it now. The plan is for ALL government to be a conspiracy. ALL meaning any aspect of anything related to or about government.
One of the problems in the Craft right now, is a bizarre fetish for NOT helping the members and their families, versus going after non-productive PR. The Lodges are really getting empty. In the early days, the opposite was true, so becoming a Mason was related to getting an inside track. I keep preaching that the self-help concept needs to be restored. So far, the NWO conditioning is winning out, over tradtiional Masonry. The "Learned Elders" have been dumbed down to an extreme - thus, my book. I scanned 120 volumes of the oldest Masonic material into text files, but the "Learned Elders" (over a large number of various Masonic organizations) keep saying that no one needs to know that stuff. (WHAT???) Sad! Thankfully, http://Phoenixmasonry.org disagrees.
well, there are enough remarks at the 4um every now and then like "why don't you find a brother in that country for help", so many younger ones are still using fruits of labor of the previous generations.
If you are trapped in a room with a shooter, always always always always rush the bastard. In the panic of the moment one of course cannot fault those who were not trained to take the appropriate immediate action, and I highly doubt Alex did more then point out obvious tactical mistakes made in this tragedy. You are so money. Absolutely right.
No, and that's not what I said. I've read his posts enough to know he likes to say outrageous things and start inflammatory threads. And he's certainly shilling for them on this topic. I've not said it was government black ops. I've said I don't foreclose the possibility.
LOL! Pot, meet kettle.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
That said, dismissing all conspiracy theorists out of hand is premature, IMO. JFK, after all, warn't killed by no lone gunman. And if you think he was, you're the one who is delusional. On this much we agree: Freedom lovers are beset by forces on the left and right which control the two major parties. Those forces are neither liberal nor conservative as those terms have meant between 1975 and 2000. They are doctrinaire. They are dogmatics, who preach one form of fascism or the other. We also agree it's too early to tell on this event, but JFK was definitely not killed by Lee Harvey Oswald, who was a patsy.
What are you talking about?
You and I agree on a lot more than we disagree on. I believe Democratic Underground is funded partially by Tavistock Institute, and Skinner is tied to Tavistock Institute.
Alex Jones said exactly what all the "experts" on TV news are saying now. They always say charge the shooter and throw things at him. When you know you're dealing with an executioner, you have to gut it up and charge them. The shooter might have killed ten that way, but he would have been stopped.
Well, LHO might have nicked him or hit the windshield. Can't rule that out, but he wasn't in position to cause either the neck wound or the head shot, either one of which would have been fatal.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
I haven't explored the issue, in a while. I've written a lot on the subject of psyops/mind control, but that's a huge field. The latest that I've seen is a book by Zimbardo - "The Lucifer Effect," identifying the extremes of the repressed primal behavior, once triggered. The Tavistock is a major international operation, by itself; another octopus.
That's correct, Chuckles. Conspire: To join or act together; combine: “Semisweet chocolate, cocoa powder, espresso, Cognac, and vanilla all conspire to intensify [the cake's] flavor” (Sally Schneider, Food and Wine February 1991). "The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
I was banned from Libertypost for pointing out the role of Jews in the mass killings in the USSR. Go pray to your fat goddess for some wisdom.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
THE MYTH OF MIND CONTROL Now I am literally laughing out loud! I can't believe you think posting some article title from Discover Magazine is proving anything. You are good for a few laughs, Destro.
What's wrong with Discover magazine? By the way, that was more proof than Alex Jones provided for his assertions. More proof than you guys provided to link the VT killer to some sort of MK Ultra program - especially since he was not institutionalized and spent very little time in the rubber room. So when did all these sessions of programming take place?
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Alex Jones is a real live libertine, and we are all in his debt for what he does. I have to admit for years I thought he was just being paranoid, but damned if his warnings haven't come true. In the past 3-4 years, I've gone from "WTF Alex!" to "OMG, you're right!"
Will anyone ever decode the human brain? by John Horgan He's a journalist trained in English. He's also co-author with Reverend Frank Geer of "Where Was God on September 11?" Yeah, he's a scientist. NOT.
EVERYONE should question every massacre, not just those who remember the 60s. BINGO Robin. TheStateInc has earned for themselves through past deceipt and subterfuge the distinction of something never to be believed without question. To do so is at one's own peril.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition I guess this declassified MKULTRA document is a myth too? http://www.blackvault.com/documents/mkultra/MKULTRA2/DOC_0000190691/0000190691_0001.TIF
9. To: blackhorse (#1)
#59. To: robin (#57)
#60. To: _ru (#52)
must be sad to watch centuries of investment of mind, labor, cash and lives all to turn into a learned elders charity providing kindness to strangers.
#61. To: SKYDRIFTER (#60)
#62. To: Ferret Mike (#10)
If someone pulls a gun and points it at you, you should not ever go with them or follow their directions to be taken to an area where they have full control.
#63. To: bluedogtxn (#13)
You think because Destro isn't on board with the idea that the VT shooting was a government sponsored black op that he's a shill for the White House?
#64. To: Paul Revere (#63)
I've read his posts enough to know he likes to say outrageous things and start inflammatory threads.
#65. To: bluedogtxn (#21)
Left-wing and right-wing distinctions are ceasing to have much meaning to me. First, because they currently bear no resemblance philosophically to the actual poli-sci definitions of those terms, and secondly because people on what has been called the "left" and people on what has been called the "right" are being fed into whilst enabling the same statist, soul-destroying, leviathan.
#66. To: _ru (#30)
what really surprises me a lot around here is the number of 4umers openly discussing their brotherhood degrees, and still receiving warm welcome
#67. To: SKYDRIFTER (#31)
I'm totally convinced that the program was continued. McVeigh was another classic, from all that I can tell. My guess is that the 'formula' involves such as LSD, sensory deprivation breakdown, hypnosis conditioning and very possibly an amphetamine 'conditioner.' All that starting with the Tavistock Institute studies.
#68. To: christine (#32)
To: Ferret Mike yep..and i got the impression that his intent was to inform people what to do and not do if they find themselves in a situation like this
#69. To: Paul Revere (#65)
We also agree it's too early to tell on this event, but JFK was definitely not killed by Lee Harvey Oswald, who was a patsy.
#70. To: Paul Revere (#67)
I believe Democratic Underground is funded partially by Tavistock Institute, and Skinner is tied to Tavistock Institute.
#71. To: Dempsy, robin (#54)
(Edited)
So, five employees of a municipal department of traffic, assigned to fill a series of pot holes are engaged in conspiracy. (chuckle
#72. To: Ferret Mike (#58)
Quick Destro, save the world from Liberty Post, they are attacking these students as sheep unwilling to defend themselves.
#73. To: Destro (#46)
DISCOVER MAGAZINE COVER STORY, OCTOBER 2004
#74. To: Paul Revere (#73)
(Edited)
I can't believe you think posting some article title from Discover Magazine is proving anything.
#75. To: christine (#38)
plus the labeling of aj as right wing is absurd.
#76. To: Destro (#46)
THE MYTH OF MIND CONTROL
#77. To: robin (#3)
But after Ruby Ridge, Waco, OKC, 9/11, being lied into a war, London tube bombings, and with Iran in the crosshairs...
In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX
"Peace? There's no money in peace! What we need is a war!"
--Three Stooges
#78. To: Destro (#74)
A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!
#79. To: Ferret Mike, ALL (#41) (Edited)
The best place for trolls like the poster of this thread is on BOZO. And that is where he will stay. I'm glad everyone still destroys his foolishness with logic and rational debate for the benefit of the lurkers. BS like his can not stand without being disected and torn apart thoroughly :)
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX
"Peace? There's no money in peace! What we need is a war!"
--Three Stooges
#80. To: Paul Revere (#63)
So Freedom4um has gotten to the point that if you scoff at the notion that the VT killer was anything but a deranged killer - not mind controlled by the CIA it is an inflammatory statement?
I've read his posts enough to know he likes to say outrageous things and start inflammatory threads
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
#81. To: Paul Revere (#76)
Nor is Alex Jones - what degree does he hold? Is he one of those pundits as experts? Or does that tag only apply to pretend experts like Rush and Hannity who are equally (un)qualified?
Yeah, he's a scientist. NOT.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
#82. To: Critter (#78)
The myth is you trying to link MLUltra to the VT killer.
I guess this declassified MKULTRA document is a myth too?
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
#83. To: Paul Revere (#73)
I agree with you. not only that police investigations in Florida & California have documented that the CIA does have mind-control programs. and documents released by government have also shown this to be true. our government has done many diabolically evil things. Example - Waco, Ruby Ridge, New Orleans, sept 11, OKC Bombing - just examples.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
#84. To: Destro (#82)
That's not what your post said. You post said mind control is a myth. But what makes you think MKUltra is not linked to the VT killer?
The myth is you trying to link MLUltra to the VT killer.
A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!
#85. To: christine (#38)
Christine, Here is a link to the youtube with 5-6 minutes of Alex Jones on the topic of the VT shootings.
#86. To: Destro (#80) (Edited)
No. I do enjoy your childish attempts to re-characterize what I've said, however. I scoff at you because your transparent attempts at recharacterizing what others say remind me of how little kids lie.
So Freedom4um has gotten to the point that if you scoff at the notion that the VT killer was anything but a deranged killer - not mind controlled by the CIA it is an inflammatory statement?
#87. To: Destro (#81) (Edited)
Yeah, he's a scientist. NOT. Nor is Alex Jones - what degree does he hold? Is he one of those pundits as experts? Or does that tag only apply to pretend experts like Rush and Hannity who are equally (un)qualified? Again, you're arguing like a child. You make the statement that mind control doesn't exist, and cite some doofus who knows about as much as you do, in an article in Discover magazine. I point out he's a journalist, who graduated in English, and his last book was written with a Reverend "Where Was God on 9-11?" Instead of acknowledging you used a dumbass article written by a dumbass picked by you because you're a dumbass, you chose to try the "oh, yeah, well Alex Jones sucks!"
To: Paul Revere
#88. To: Red Jones (#83)
Agreed. When Clinton came into office, they immediately pulled the raid in Waco, the real point of which was to propel the ATF into the SWAT team world, and to frighten Americans about "home grown terrorists." They play the home grown terrorist card a while, then switch to the Muslim terrorist card. The perpetrators of these evils are not bound by any moral compunctions. Killing 50 or 5000 is no concern to them because killing is just one more way they use to control our government and us.
our government has done many diabolically evil things. Example - Waco, Ruby Ridge, New Orleans, sept 11, OKC Bombing - just examples.
#89. To: Paul Revere (#88)
Waco served many StateInc goals, including 1/ to test the responsiveness of the sheople [we failed] and 2/ to serve as a warning to others who would dare seek independence from TheStateInc.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX
"Peace? There's no money in peace! What we need is a war!"
--Three Stooges
#90. To: Paul Revere (#85)
loved his comments about the cops on the scene
#91. To: christine (#90)
It really makes you wonder when the cops seem incapable or unwilling to take the prudent protective action. Two dead and they don't have police everywhere?! I think his point about the kids is that they are not taught to fight back, and have been shaped into the herd mentality more than our generation is accustomed to accepting.
loved his comments about the cops on the scene
#92. To: Destro (#81)
On a July 5, 2001 television broadcast, Alex Jones predicted the terrorist attack of 9-11, as well as Bin Laden being blamed for it. How many people with a doctorate, a masters degree and other high academic credentials predicted something so incredibly well? What degree do you have? Show me yours, and I will show you mine.
"Nor is Alex Jones - what degree does he hold?"
#93. To: Ferret Mike (#92)
On a July 5, 2001 television broadcast, Alex Jones predicted the terrorist attack of 9-11, as well as Bin Laden being blamed for it.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
#94. To: Destro (#0)
I think one of the interesting stories here is the media attention - what happened at VT is very sad, but while it's screamed in headlines, in tiny print we see that 187 iraqis were killed in a single day by bombs, and the AJ is still lying, and bush is still supporting him and the magical surge. I don't personally believe it was a govt op, but I believe in the aftermath it's being used as a distraction. and the ADD american public has once again forgotten everything they thought was a big issue only yesterday.
#95. To: Paul Revere (#85)
What a rant! I love it! LOL.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
#96. To: bluedogtxn (#7)
Good line.
"Anti-Government paranoia is a good survival trait when you live in a decidership."
............
Just a reminder... giving away FREEDOM TO FASCISM dvd's is a wonderful way to help Ron Paul.
Note: All my DVD's now contain two videos. And, I have nicer labels now.
#97. To: kiki (#94)
Always good to remind us of this.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest