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Title: What I like about Freedom4um
Source: my head
URL Source: [None]
Published: Apr 19, 2007
Author: Paul Revere
Post Date: 2007-04-19 15:19:48 by Paul Revere
Keywords: freedom4um, all
Views: 2471
Comments: 131

The purpose of this thread is to applaud our hosts for this place, and what we like about it. One of the things I do not like about modern USA culture is that people do not properly thank others. It's as if they believe they're giving up something to acknowledge that someone else did something nice.

Running a site is a royal pain in the ass, and time consuming. It costs something to run, and someone has to pay that.

So thank you to the owners, and here's what I like about Freedom4um:

1. No smilies!! I hate those things. I can barely stand to read DU because there are so many people who use them. Why not crayons?

2. No threads calling for government to FIX whatever today's most visible problem is.

What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?

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#10. To: Sam Houston (#4)

http://freedomunderground.com (which is no longer there; I just checked).

The forum you refer to is at .org, not .com.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2007-04-19   15:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Paul Revere (#0)

Everything is fine SUPER. Is it possible to put more colors....... greyish early morning puts me mentally down ......... more colors = more happy. Still a very good site tho, keep it up Christine/Zippo.

LostBody  posted on  2007-04-19   15:58:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: bluedogtxn (#5)

What do I like about freedom4um?

No badeye.

No Kossack or DU PC censors.

No posting limits (unless you are a known trash talking shill).

No censorship (unless you go completely insane like Leveller did, or start out completely insane like BAC).

No overriding political agenda.

Great moderators.

I don't know who badeye is, and never posted at KOS, but I found that place annoying when I tried to read it. Too many places have rigid pecking orders, and pecking orders produce a lot of peckerheads.

I did post at DU for a few months and got booted out. Boy, are they not liberal or libertarian minded! What a gaggle of honking geese! And the DU moderators are suck ass to the max. That dork named The Magistrate is the biggest jackass I've ever seen. He starts shit with people, then deletes their responses to his obnoxious remarks. He's a jackass.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-19   16:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Paul Revere (#12)

I don't know who badeye is, and never posted at KOS, but I found that place annoying when I tried to read it. Too many places have rigid pecking orders, and pecking orders produce a lot of peckerheads.

I did post at DU for a few months and got booted out. Boy, are they not liberal or libertarian minded! What a gaggle of honking geese! And the DU moderators are suck ass to the max. That dork named The Magistrate is the biggest jackass I've ever seen. He starts shit with people, then deletes their responses to his obnoxious remarks. He's a jackass.

I've posted at both DU and Kos, although with a great deal more restraint than here. I like DU better than Kos, simply because of its structure, larger member activity and no one-a-day diary limitation. Mostly I just bop over there on occasion to read whassup and occasionally steal an article.

My favorite reading hole is Lew rockwell's site, although I rather like Counterpunch and http://antiwar.com.

But 4 is pretty much my posting home.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-19   16:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tom007, Paul Revere, Sam Houston, IndieTx, bluedogtxn, TheSilverFox, lodwick, ALL (#1)

As well as being susceptable to flattery.

ahhhhh ;)

thanks for the affirmation and i hope y'all know how much i appreciate you and your contributions to this board.

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   16:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Paul Revere (#0)

What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?

Smart, independent folks, many of whom know a shitload more about the world than I do.

I come to get the big news and see what the smart asses here (and the not-so- smart asses here) have to say about it.

Sometimes I even get into it with posters here, and I always learn something, even if it's arguing with the likes of Yertle.

This site is a great quality of life enhancer.

It help me maintain my equilibrium and my self respect as a huma-bean with all the horrible crap that is crashing down on us these days.

Christine & Zipp are hip.

Gloria est pro petroleo mori.

randge  posted on  2007-04-19   16:09:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: LostBody (#11)

Everything is fine SUPER. Is it possible to put more colors....... greyish early morning puts me mentally down ......... more colors = more happy. Still a very good site tho, keep it up Christine/Zippo.

Well, different strokes.

I like the subtle, low key nature of the board. It's all about the posts, not the distractions.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-19   16:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: randge (#15)

This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-19   16:11:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Zipporah (#0)

What I like about Freedom4um

Zipporah*

War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-04-19   16:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Paul Revere, randge, christine (#17)

This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.

AND AIPAC discussion and USS Liberty discussion and discussion of lots and lots of other subjects that seem to be taboo elsewhere.

And while I occasionally find the trashing of taboos offensive, it smells suspiciously like freedom, so I'm all for it, even if I wince occasionally.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-19   16:18:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Paul Revere (#0)

I like flirting with the girls.

I like the dedication of many of the 9/11 researchers here on 4um.

I like flirting with the girls here.

I like that 99.9% of the people here seem to be looking for honest answers to some serious questions about our times, and engage in some excellent brainstorming and debate.

I like flirting with the girls here.

I like all of the features Neil has built into this software.

I think this is the one true free speech friendly political forum on the net, with few shills and many different opinions from all across the political spectrum. Thanks to the lovely ladies that run this place!

Did I mention that I like flirting with the girls here?


A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!

Critter  posted on  2007-04-19   16:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: bluedogtxn, Burkeman1 (#5)

No overriding political agenda.

Great moderators.

Ditto from me for those 2 points in particular.

As well, 4um offers the opportunity to hear a variety of well-reasoned viewpoints which I may not have considered on my own. Some posters provide a bit more of a left lean than would be my natural inclination and I appreciate that input greatly.

And 4um offers "characters" a place to post their opinions - 4um as the last refuge for characters? - don't laugh - I think that is an aspect of this 4um that speaks to freedom of speech here and what adds "color" to the discussions here - characters who may make me gnash my teeth in frustration at times, but nonetheless they are unique and opinionated and at times quite funny. They've been banned elsewhere but not here.

And 4um also offers a place for meeting familiar soul mates due to an instant connection and though we're strangers it's nice to feel that on any given day or week one can easily relate to some comfy folks, no muss no fuss no hidden agendas, like putting on some old softened leather shoes after a long day on your feet.

Ooops - I think I'm slipping into maudlin mode.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-04-19   16:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Critter (#20)

you're so cute, Critter.

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   16:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: scrapper2 (#21)

Ooops - I think I'm slipping into maudlin mode.

Sniff, that's okay, Scrapper. Me... me too. Sigh.

Seriously, although a lot of hard-hitting stuff gets said, there isn't a lot of personal mean-ness here, either. Most posts start out with "You are wrong, and here's why", instead of "Fuckhead! You don't know your ass from a hole in the side of the mental hospital you drool in!"

Basic civility without a lot of PC crap laded on top of it.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-19   16:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: scrapper2 (#21)

i love your comments, scrapper. :)

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   16:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: christine, scrapper2 (#24)

i love your comments, scrapper. :)

Totally second that emotion.

You've really got your intellectual shit together.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-19   16:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Paul Revere (#0)

1. No smilies!! I hate those things. I can barely stand to read DU because there are so many people who use them. Why not crayons?

Sorry - couldn't help myself....

I like smilies!

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2007-04-19   16:33:45 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Neil McIver (#10)

Hey, thanks. No wonder I couldn't find it. It still seems to be pretty deserted, though.

I did a search and "palo verde" last posted there in May 2005. I think I must have found this site a year or so before then.

I am guilty of flirting also. I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny" who used to be famous on FR. I apologize profusely for ever thinking that.

The benefits of education and of useful knowledge, generally diffused through a community, are essential to the preservation of a free government. - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2007-04-19   16:36:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Sam Houston, Paul Revere (#27)

I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny" who used to be famous on FR. I apologize profusely for ever thinking that.

It is funny that former FR posters and former KOS and DU posters can come to the same site and wind up agreeing on a lot of stuff. I think there's a lot more common ground in this country than the people who profit from our divisiveness want me to think.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-19   16:40:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Paul Revere (#0)

The web is dead. Been dead for a long time.

I like seeing some of the old names and faces who saw what might have been, back in the late 90s, when there was still reason for optimism. I've also met a couple of new folks (granted on LP but they migrated here) who, should they stick with this format, and this format is dying a slow death of attrition thanks to Blogs, will be great posters down the line.

Ron Paul 2008

JohnGalt  posted on  2007-04-19   16:47:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Paul Revere (#0)

The main thing is that people with very different political views can talk rationally without being called commie or nazi. When someone goes beyond the pale, the posters tend to quash it, rather than calling for banning.

The main thing is that here you can see beyond partisan politics and understand that people with very different views can agree on most things. And unite when there is a real threat to the country, as is the case with the Bush administration.

I used to post mainly at Bartcop and later DU. I now mainly post here because I see thoughtful responses most of the time. Well, except for Flintlock. And no, Flintlock, I am not interested in your sister.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-04-19   16:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: bluedogtxn. all (#28)

I think there's a lot more common ground in this country than the people who profit from our divisiveness want me to think.

smirkco has done more to bring thinking people of all stripes together than anything I've ever seen.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-19   16:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Sam Houston (#27)

I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny"

um..there is absolutely no resemblance. ;)

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   16:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: scrapper2 (#21)

maudlin is okay sometimes, nice post

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-04-19   17:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine (#32)

um..there is absolutely no resemblance.

There certainly is was, until her fake BB persona was revealed...

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-19   17:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Zipporah, christine, Neil McIver, robin, *Music Club* (#0) (Edited)

Alanis Morissette - Thank You :P

How bout me not blaming you for everything
How bout me enjoying the moment for once
Thank you thank you
;)

War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-04-19   17:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Paul Revere, Mekons4, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, bluedogtxn, Kamala, nolu_chan, roughrider (#0)

bluedogtxn - No posting limits (unless you are a known trash talking shill).

bluedogtxn - No censorship (unless you go completely insane like Leveller did, or start out completely insane like BAC).

Just for the record, I'm perfectly content with my 15 post limit (keeps me from wasting too much time) and there has been no censorship of my posts other than my VOLUNTEERING not to call folks KOOKS and the censorship imposed by folks who bozo'd themselves to avoid facing the facts contained in my posts.

SKYDRIFTER - [Speaking of turkeys, BAC is conspicuous by his absence, today. More disinformation school, I suspect. If Bush attacks Iran, we can be certain.]

ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. In fact, I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?

Paul Revere - This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.

Well that depends on which side of the issue you are on. There's been many a thread where it was me against THEM. But who's complaining. (wink)

scrapper2 - And 4um offers "characters" a place to post their opinions - 4um as the last refuge for characters?

I like that aspect of 4um too! ROTFLOL!

Mekons4 - The main thing is that people with very different political views can talk rationally without being called commie or nazi. When someone goes beyond the pale, the posters tend to quash it, rather than calling for banning.

Except in my case? ROTFLOL!

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Aren't you lucky. You get to receive one of the 15 posts I'm allowed each day.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-19   17:53:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: lodwick (#31)

smirkco has done more to bring thinking people of all stripes together than anything I've ever seen.

Hasn't he? He's been a uniter, all right. Everyone is uniting against him.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-19   17:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: BeAChooser (#36)

15 posts

You'd have been banned elsewhere. If we want Bush talking points, we can read the papers.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-04-19   17:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: BeAChooser (#36)

... there has been no censorship of my posts other than my VOLUNTEERING not to call folks KOOKS

ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. ROTFLOL!

ROTFLOL!

Could you volunteer not to type "ROTFLOL" all the damn time? I mean, aside from sounding like the arch villain monologueing in a 1950s Marvel comic book, it is the second most annoying habit you have.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-19   18:00:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: bluedogtxn (#39)

Funny that you'd mention comic books...isn't that the source for much of his material?

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-04-19   18:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: bluedogtxn (#39)

i've asked him to quit and told him he comes across as maniacal and deranged. obviously he is cuz he can't stop it.

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   18:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: christine (#41)

i've asked him to quit and told him he comes across as maniacal and deranged. obviously he is cuz he can't stop it.

Well, if he ever gets banned and comes back with another identity, it won't be hard to figure out who he is!

Tata, chris. Off for home.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-19   18:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Mekons4 (#38)

If we want Bush talking points, we can read the papers.

The real news is on the blogs/forums and late night comedy shows.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-04-19   18:10:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#35)

I just LOVE Alaniss Morrisette.

Have you seen her singing Fergie's song? It's a classic, and is funny, sharp, sexy, and musically pleasing.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-19   18:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: All (#44) (Edited)

Here is that Alaniss Morrisette cover of Fergie's tune My Hump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZw-8RSyvh8

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-19   18:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: bluedogtxn (#39)

Could you volunteer not to type "ROTFLOL" all the damn time? I mean, aside from sounding like the arch villain monologueing in a 1950s Marvel comic book, it is the second most annoying habit you have.

War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-04-19   18:23:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Paul Revere (#44)

I just LOVE Alaniss Morrisette.

I like her music, and I also like her "Lady Godiva" act in the "Thank You" video. :P

War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-04-19   18:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: robin, All (#43) (Edited)

1 thru 43 (except 36)

Actually ooser shouldn't be restricted to reply. Stil waiting to see aircraft parts at Shanksville.

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-04-19   18:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: BeAChooser (#36)

did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?

There comes a point when we realize that trying to talk sense to you is fruitless.

It reminds me of King Arthur fighting the black knight in the Holy Grail.

BeAChooser: None shall pass.
9/11 Truther: What?
BeAChooser: None shall pass.
9/11 Truther: I have no quarrel with you, good Sir Knight, but I must cross this bridge.
BeAChooser: Then you shall die.
9/11 Truther: I command you, as King of the Britons, to stand aside!
BeAChooser: I move for no man.
9/11 Truther: So be it!
9/11 Truther and BeAChooser: Aaah!, hiyaah!, etc.
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's left arm off]
9/11 Truther: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.
BeAChooser: 'Tis but a scratch.
9/11 Truther: A scratch? Your arm's off!
BeAChooser: No, it isn't.
9/11 Truther: Well, what's that, then?
BeAChooser: I've had worse.
9/11 Truther: You liar!
BeAChooser: Come on, you pansy!
[clang] Huyah! [clang] Hiyaah! [clang] Aaaaaaaah!
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's right arm off]
9/11 Truther: Victory is mine!
[kneeling]
We thank Thee Lord, that in Thy mer--
BeAChooser: Hah! [kick] Come on, then.
9/11 Truther: What?
BeAChooser: Have at you! [kick]
9/11 Truther: Eh. You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine.
BeAChooser: Oh, had enough, eh?
9/11 Truther: Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left.
BeAChooser: Yes, I have.
9/11 Truther: Look!
BeAChooser: Just a flesh wound. [kick]
9/11 Truther: Look, stop that.
BeAChooser: Chicken! [kick] Chickennn!
9/11 Truther: Look, I'll have your leg. [kick] Right! [whop]
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's right leg off]
BeAChooser: Right. I'll do you for that!
9/11 Truther: You'll what?
BeAChooser: Come here!
9/11 Truther: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
BeAChooser: I'm invincible!
9/11 Truther: You're a looney.
BeAChooser: The BeAChooser always triumphs! Have at you! Come on, then. [whop]
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's last leg off]
BeAChooser: Oh? All right, we'll call it a draw.
9/11 Truther: Come, Patsy.
BeAChooser: Oh. Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!


A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!

Critter  posted on  2007-04-19   18:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: BeAChooser, ROTFLOL, christine, ALL, skydrifter, critter, randge (#36) (Edited)

"ROTFLOL! I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?

BAC, you're a legend in your own mind.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX
"Peace? There's no money in peace! What we need is a war!"
--Three Stooges

IndieTX  posted on  2007-04-19   18:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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