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Title: What I like about Freedom4um
Source: my head
URL Source: [None]
Published: Apr 19, 2007
Author: Paul Revere
Post Date: 2007-04-19 15:19:48 by Paul Revere
Keywords: freedom4um, all
Views: 2605
Comments: 131

The purpose of this thread is to applaud our hosts for this place, and what we like about it. One of the things I do not like about modern USA culture is that people do not properly thank others. It's as if they believe they're giving up something to acknowledge that someone else did something nice.

Running a site is a royal pain in the ass, and time consuming. It costs something to run, and someone has to pay that.

So thank you to the owners, and here's what I like about Freedom4um:

1. No smilies!! I hate those things. I can barely stand to read DU because there are so many people who use them. Why not crayons?

2. No threads calling for government to FIX whatever today's most visible problem is.

What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?

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#29. To: Paul Revere (#0)

The web is dead. Been dead for a long time.

I like seeing some of the old names and faces who saw what might have been, back in the late 90s, when there was still reason for optimism. I've also met a couple of new folks (granted on LP but they migrated here) who, should they stick with this format, and this format is dying a slow death of attrition thanks to Blogs, will be great posters down the line.

Ron Paul 2008

JohnGalt  posted on  2007-04-19   16:47:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Paul Revere (#0)

The main thing is that people with very different political views can talk rationally without being called commie or nazi. When someone goes beyond the pale, the posters tend to quash it, rather than calling for banning.

The main thing is that here you can see beyond partisan politics and understand that people with very different views can agree on most things. And unite when there is a real threat to the country, as is the case with the Bush administration.

I used to post mainly at Bartcop and later DU. I now mainly post here because I see thoughtful responses most of the time. Well, except for Flintlock. And no, Flintlock, I am not interested in your sister.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-04-19   16:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: bluedogtxn. all (#28)

I think there's a lot more common ground in this country than the people who profit from our divisiveness want me to think.

smirkco has done more to bring thinking people of all stripes together than anything I've ever seen.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-19   16:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Sam Houston (#27)

I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny"

um..there is absolutely no resemblance. ;)

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   16:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: scrapper2 (#21)

maudlin is okay sometimes, nice post

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-04-19   17:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine (#32)

um..there is absolutely no resemblance.

There certainly is was, until her fake BB persona was revealed...

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-19   17:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Zipporah, christine, Neil McIver, robin, *Music Club* (#0) (Edited)

Alanis Morissette - Thank You :P

How bout me not blaming you for everything
How bout me enjoying the moment for once
Thank you thank you
;)

War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-04-19   17:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Paul Revere, Mekons4, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, bluedogtxn, Kamala, nolu_chan, roughrider (#0)

bluedogtxn - No posting limits (unless you are a known trash talking shill).

bluedogtxn - No censorship (unless you go completely insane like Leveller did, or start out completely insane like BAC).

Just for the record, I'm perfectly content with my 15 post limit (keeps me from wasting too much time) and there has been no censorship of my posts other than my VOLUNTEERING not to call folks KOOKS and the censorship imposed by folks who bozo'd themselves to avoid facing the facts contained in my posts.

SKYDRIFTER - [Speaking of turkeys, BAC is conspicuous by his absence, today. More disinformation school, I suspect. If Bush attacks Iran, we can be certain.]

ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. In fact, I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?

Paul Revere - This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.

Well that depends on which side of the issue you are on. There's been many a thread where it was me against THEM. But who's complaining. (wink)

scrapper2 - And 4um offers "characters" a place to post their opinions - 4um as the last refuge for characters?

I like that aspect of 4um too! ROTFLOL!

Mekons4 - The main thing is that people with very different political views can talk rationally without being called commie or nazi. When someone goes beyond the pale, the posters tend to quash it, rather than calling for banning.

Except in my case? ROTFLOL!

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Aren't you lucky. You get to receive one of the 15 posts I'm allowed each day.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-19   17:53:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: lodwick (#31)

smirkco has done more to bring thinking people of all stripes together than anything I've ever seen.

Hasn't he? He's been a uniter, all right. Everyone is uniting against him.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-19   17:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: BeAChooser (#36)

15 posts

You'd have been banned elsewhere. If we want Bush talking points, we can read the papers.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-04-19   17:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: BeAChooser (#36)

... there has been no censorship of my posts other than my VOLUNTEERING not to call folks KOOKS

ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. ROTFLOL!

ROTFLOL!

Could you volunteer not to type "ROTFLOL" all the damn time? I mean, aside from sounding like the arch villain monologueing in a 1950s Marvel comic book, it is the second most annoying habit you have.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-19   18:00:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: bluedogtxn (#39)

Funny that you'd mention comic books...isn't that the source for much of his material?

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-04-19   18:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: bluedogtxn (#39)

i've asked him to quit and told him he comes across as maniacal and deranged. obviously he is cuz he can't stop it.

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   18:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: christine (#41)

i've asked him to quit and told him he comes across as maniacal and deranged. obviously he is cuz he can't stop it.

Well, if he ever gets banned and comes back with another identity, it won't be hard to figure out who he is!

Tata, chris. Off for home.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-19   18:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Mekons4 (#38)

If we want Bush talking points, we can read the papers.

The real news is on the blogs/forums and late night comedy shows.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-04-19   18:10:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#35)

I just LOVE Alaniss Morrisette.

Have you seen her singing Fergie's song? It's a classic, and is funny, sharp, sexy, and musically pleasing.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-19   18:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: All (#44) (Edited)

Here is that Alaniss Morrisette cover of Fergie's tune My Hump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZw-8RSyvh8

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-19   18:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: bluedogtxn (#39)

Could you volunteer not to type "ROTFLOL" all the damn time? I mean, aside from sounding like the arch villain monologueing in a 1950s Marvel comic book, it is the second most annoying habit you have.

War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-04-19   18:23:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Paul Revere (#44)

I just LOVE Alaniss Morrisette.

I like her music, and I also like her "Lady Godiva" act in the "Thank You" video. :P

War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-04-19   18:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: robin, All (#43) (Edited)

1 thru 43 (except 36)

Actually ooser shouldn't be restricted to reply. Stil waiting to see aircraft parts at Shanksville.

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-04-19   18:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: BeAChooser (#36)

did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?

There comes a point when we realize that trying to talk sense to you is fruitless.

It reminds me of King Arthur fighting the black knight in the Holy Grail.

BeAChooser: None shall pass.
9/11 Truther: What?
BeAChooser: None shall pass.
9/11 Truther: I have no quarrel with you, good Sir Knight, but I must cross this bridge.
BeAChooser: Then you shall die.
9/11 Truther: I command you, as King of the Britons, to stand aside!
BeAChooser: I move for no man.
9/11 Truther: So be it!
9/11 Truther and BeAChooser: Aaah!, hiyaah!, etc.
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's left arm off]
9/11 Truther: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.
BeAChooser: 'Tis but a scratch.
9/11 Truther: A scratch? Your arm's off!
BeAChooser: No, it isn't.
9/11 Truther: Well, what's that, then?
BeAChooser: I've had worse.
9/11 Truther: You liar!
BeAChooser: Come on, you pansy!
[clang] Huyah! [clang] Hiyaah! [clang] Aaaaaaaah!
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's right arm off]
9/11 Truther: Victory is mine!
[kneeling]
We thank Thee Lord, that in Thy mer--
BeAChooser: Hah! [kick] Come on, then.
9/11 Truther: What?
BeAChooser: Have at you! [kick]
9/11 Truther: Eh. You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine.
BeAChooser: Oh, had enough, eh?
9/11 Truther: Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left.
BeAChooser: Yes, I have.
9/11 Truther: Look!
BeAChooser: Just a flesh wound. [kick]
9/11 Truther: Look, stop that.
BeAChooser: Chicken! [kick] Chickennn!
9/11 Truther: Look, I'll have your leg. [kick] Right! [whop]
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's right leg off]
BeAChooser: Right. I'll do you for that!
9/11 Truther: You'll what?
BeAChooser: Come here!
9/11 Truther: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
BeAChooser: I'm invincible!
9/11 Truther: You're a looney.
BeAChooser: The BeAChooser always triumphs! Have at you! Come on, then. [whop]
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's last leg off]
BeAChooser: Oh? All right, we'll call it a draw.
9/11 Truther: Come, Patsy.
BeAChooser: Oh. Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!


A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!

Critter  posted on  2007-04-19   18:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: BeAChooser, ROTFLOL, christine, ALL, skydrifter, critter, randge (#36) (Edited)

"ROTFLOL! I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?

BAC, you're a legend in your own mind.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX
"Peace? There's no money in peace! What we need is a war!"
--Three Stooges

IndieTX  posted on  2007-04-19   18:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Paul Revere (#0)

I agree that the 'no smileys' is a big plus.

Another plus is the 'no breaking news' section. Sites like LP have people arguing a lot about what is and what is not 'breaking news' instead of having some more interesting discussions.

I also like that there is not explicit prohibition of 'racism' or 'anti-semitism'. People are what they are and they think what they think. If a site is to tolerate those who pray that 'we' nuke various 'Mooslum' countries then there's nothing wrong with a little racism or anti-semitism. I'm a confessed anti-Bulgarian and I'd feel embarrassed to see that no one cares about my Bulgarian bashing while those who warn us about various Jews conspiracies are supressed.

Another thing that I like is the 'ignore' feature. I'm glad it's there even though the level of discussion here is civilized enough not to make me ignore anyone.

So, I too thank the owner for keeping this good site alive.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-04-19   18:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Paul Revere (#45)

Here is that Alaniss Morrisette cover of Fergie's tune My Hump

Excellent! A diva with a sense of humor: rara avis in terris ;P

War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-04-19   18:46:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Paul Revere (#0)

Oh, there is one thing that I don't like. It is allowing the members to include large, psychedelic graphics as part of their signature. This can be very distracting and extremely annoying when someone makes 15 posts on a thread and drops these redundant nonsense to no one's benefit or pleasure.

There was someone at FR, I believe, who was including the head of a feline with huge canines in all of his posts. Even though his graphics were not animated, it was quite pathetic and gratuitous.

Also, adding a 10-line SIG to a 2-word post... not good.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-04-19   18:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#53)

I hate signatures. Is there a way to opt out of seeing them? It's not the content, it's the repetition.

But to each his own. I have high tolerance for those kind of annoyances. It's the prohibitions on free thought and expression that trouble me at most message boards. I'm not crazy about puking smilies, either. At DU they have a bunch of people that use that smilie to express their displeasure. I call them cyber bulimics.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-19   19:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Why I love 4um (#54)

Freedom4um is a

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-04-19   19:09:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#53)

There was someone at FR, I believe, who was including the head of a feline with huge canines in all of his posts. Even though his graphics were not animated, it was quite pathetic and gratuitous.

That was "Sabertooth." He was actually very good on the immigration issue, in that he stood up tenaciously and articulately against the "party line" that JimRob wanted enforced there for so long: "open borders" in all but name. He was repeatedly and gratuitously banned at FR, until he finally came over to LP.

As has baffled me before with other posters, he changed stripes, as it were, and became an acerbic defender of Israel against all the "Stormtroopers" (i.e., people who question even timidly any of Israel's policies or actions) supposedly there. I tuned him out after that---I can have my pick of Israel Firsters anywhere on the 'net.

War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-04-19   19:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#53)

psychedelic graphics as part o

hummmmmm

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-04-19   19:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: CAPPSMADNESS, Zipporah, Jethro Tull, Peetie Wheatstraw, lodwick (#26) (Edited)

caution: just caution, thats all :)

Dokuro-chan Blow Your Brains Out

"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar

Dakmar  posted on  2007-04-19   19:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#56)

I have nothing against his contributions. It's just that the repeaded image of that toothy head was distracting.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-04-19   19:24:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

Beautiful, and we all agree!

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-04-19   19:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: IndieTX, BeAChooser (#50)

BAC, you're a legend in your own mind.

BAC doesn't understand that posting here isn't a job for the rest of us.

"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar

Dakmar  posted on  2007-04-19   19:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: tom007 (#57)

That's progress. :)

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-04-19   19:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: BeAChooser (#36)

did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?

How can someone make a rational response to your kookey rants and links to nutball one man blogs? That is, if the links work at all and you haven't just posted a phoney link -- again -- to cover your ass.

.

...  posted on  2007-04-19   19:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Paul Revere, a vast rightwing conspirator (#54)

I hate signatures

Indeed you can disable the display of taglines (signatures).

Click on "setup" and the top of the screen and unselect "View tag lines of other posters.".

Poof...their gone!

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-04-19   19:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Brian S (#64)

Thanks!! And they're gone.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-19   20:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Brian S (#64)

was this about me using the 'j' word? :)

"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar

Dakmar  posted on  2007-04-19   20:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Dakmar (#66)

sneaky bastards

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-04-19   20:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Jethro Tull (#67)

Why do all those "Japs" look like Jerry Lewis?

"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar

Dakmar  posted on  2007-04-19   20:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: robin (#43)

The real news is on the blogs/forums and late night comedy shows.

bump it

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-19   20:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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