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Title: What I like about Freedom4um
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Published: Apr 19, 2007
Author: Paul Revere
Post Date: 2007-04-19 15:19:48 by Paul Revere
Keywords: freedom4um, all
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Comments: 131
The purpose of this thread is to applaud our hosts for this place, and what we like about it. One of the things I do not like about modern USA culture is that people do not properly thank others. It's as if they believe they're giving up something to acknowledge that someone else did something nice. Running a site is a royal pain in the ass, and time consuming. It costs something to run, and someone has to pay that. So thank you to the owners, and here's what I like about Freedom4um: 1. No smilies!! I hate those things. I can barely stand to read DU because there are so many people who use them. Why not crayons? 2. No threads calling for government to FIX whatever today's most visible problem is. What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?
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#1. To: Paul Revere (#0)
It is as open as you could want, a discussion of the Jewish problem is not censored. Best site by that that I have found. And Chris and Zipporah are really great people, stunninglly beautiful, wise while being whitty and generous to a fault. As well as being susceptable to flattery.
Best site by that that I have found. Tell me about it. The Shout Down is in full effect at almost all message boards on line. You cannot talk about Zionism and those who have stolen the US government to effect their mideast plans. You cannot talk about the 9-11 fraud. Here I can, and that means a lot.
True to it's name: Freedom4UM!!
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition It took me a while to find where christine had gone when I was left all alone with a woman named palo (I love you!) verde at a place called http://freedomunderground.com (which is no longer there; I just checked). Generally wherever christine is you will find a place where freedom is not just given lip service, but is actually practiced. That's why I was fortunate to find her new site. I can't remember when the migration took place from FU (I still love that abbreviation) to here. So I thank christine and Zipporah and whomever else deserves credit for this place of unfettered free expression. I wonder whatever happened to palo verde. I'm sure she still loves us all. Certainly nothing wrong with that. "What the world needs now is love, sweet love ..."
The benefits of education and of useful knowledge, generally diffused through a community, are essential to the preservation of a free government. - Sam Houston
What do I like about freedom4um? No badeye. No Kossack or DU PC censors. No posting limits (unless you are a known trash talking shill). No censorship (unless you go completely insane like Leveller did, or start out completely insane like BAC). No overriding political agenda. Great moderators.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
Project megaphone members need not apply.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
I admire the freedom of expression, while reasonable restraints are also present. (No badeye, here!) If you want to be a turkey, you do so at your own peril. (Reminds me of the Territory days of Alaska.) [Speaking of turkeys, BAC is conspicuous by his absence, today. More disinformation school, I suspect. If Bush attacks Iran, we can be certain.]
In general: There is not enough gratitude for forum hosts these days across the board of political cyber thinkers. Nine times out of ten, we never know the extent of their background struggles are to make places like this possible. Specifically: What I like about Freedom4um is that it's always up and running - very stable. That in and of itself is a pain in the ass. Here, there are no SQL Errors or, a sappy apology posted for Maintenance Mode. The software here is robust, and professionally built. Money well spent. Also, Holocaust Memorial Week was not celebrated here. Yay!!!
http://freedomunderground.com (which is no longer there; I just checked). The forum you refer to is at .org, not .com.
Everything is fine SUPER. Is it possible to put more colors....... greyish early morning puts me mentally down ......... more colors = more happy. Still a very good site tho, keep it up Christine/Zippo.
No badeye. No Kossack or DU PC censors. No posting limits (unless you are a known trash talking shill). No censorship (unless you go completely insane like Leveller did, or start out completely insane like BAC). No overriding political agenda. Great moderators. I don't know who badeye is, and never posted at KOS, but I found that place annoying when I tried to read it. Too many places have rigid pecking orders, and pecking orders produce a lot of peckerheads. I did post at DU for a few months and got booted out. Boy, are they not liberal or libertarian minded! What a gaggle of honking geese! And the DU moderators are suck ass to the max. That dork named The Magistrate is the biggest jackass I've ever seen. He starts shit with people, then deletes their responses to his obnoxious remarks. He's a jackass.
I did post at DU for a few months and got booted out. Boy, are they not liberal or libertarian minded! What a gaggle of honking geese! And the DU moderators are suck ass to the max. That dork named The Magistrate is the biggest jackass I've ever seen. He starts shit with people, then deletes their responses to his obnoxious remarks. He's a jackass. I've posted at both DU and Kos, although with a great deal more restraint than here. I like DU better than Kos, simply because of its structure, larger member activity and no one-a-day diary limitation. Mostly I just bop over there on occasion to read whassup and occasionally steal an article. My favorite reading hole is Lew rockwell's site, although I rather like Counterpunch and http://antiwar.com. But 4 is pretty much my posting home.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
ahhhhh ;) thanks for the affirmation and i hope y'all know how much i appreciate you and your contributions to this board.
Smart, independent folks, many of whom know a shitload more about the world than I do. I come to get the big news and see what the smart asses here (and the not-so- smart asses here) have to say about it. Sometimes I even get into it with posters here, and I always learn something, even if it's arguing with the likes of Yertle. This site is a great quality of life enhancer. It help me maintain my equilibrium and my self respect as a huma-bean with all the horrible crap that is crashing down on us these days. Christine & Zipp are hip.
Gloria est pro petroleo mori.
Well, different strokes. I like the subtle, low key nature of the board. It's all about the posts, not the distractions.
This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.
Zipporah*
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
AND AIPAC discussion and USS Liberty discussion and discussion of lots and lots of other subjects that seem to be taboo elsewhere. And while I occasionally find the trashing of taboos offensive, it smells suspiciously like freedom, so I'm all for it, even if I wince occasionally.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
I like flirting with the girls. I like the dedication of many of the 9/11 researchers here on 4um. I like flirting with the girls here. I like that 99.9% of the people here seem to be looking for honest answers to some serious questions about our times, and engage in some excellent brainstorming and debate. I like flirting with the girls here. I like all of the features Neil has built into this software. I think this is the one true free speech friendly political forum on the net, with few shills and many different opinions from all across the political spectrum. Thanks to the lovely ladies that run this place! Did I mention that I like flirting with the girls here?
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
#2. To: tom007 (#1)
It is as open as you could want, a discussion of the Jewish problem is not censored.
#3. To: Paul Revere (#0)
What are your favorite things about Freedom4um
In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX
"Peace? There's no money in peace! What we need is a war!"
--Three Stooges
#4. To: Paul Revere (#0)
#5. To: Paul Revere (#0)
#6. To: tom007 (#1)
It is as open as you could want, a discussion of the Jewish problem is not censored.
#7. To: Paul Revere, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#0)
#8. To: 4's (#4)
#9. To: Paul Revere (#0)
#10. To: Sam Houston (#4)
#11. To: Paul Revere (#0)
#12. To: bluedogtxn (#5)
What do I like about freedom4um?
#13. To: Paul Revere (#12)
I don't know who badeye is, and never posted at KOS, but I found that place annoying when I tried to read it. Too many places have rigid pecking orders, and pecking orders produce a lot of peckerheads.
#14. To: tom007, Paul Revere, Sam Houston, IndieTx, bluedogtxn, TheSilverFox, lodwick, ALL (#1)
As well as being susceptable to flattery.
#15. To: Paul Revere (#0)
What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?
#16. To: LostBody (#11)
Everything is fine SUPER. Is it possible to put more colors....... greyish early morning puts me mentally down ......... more colors = more happy. Still a very good site tho, keep it up Christine/Zippo.
#17. To: randge (#15)
#18. To: Zipporah (#0)
What I like about Freedom4um
#19. To: Paul Revere, randge, christine (#17)
This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.
#20. To: Paul Revere (#0)
A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!
#21. To: bluedogtxn, Burkeman1 (#5)
Great moderators. Ditto from me for those 2 points in particular. As well, 4um offers the opportunity to hear a variety of well-reasoned viewpoints which I may not have considered on my own. Some posters provide a bit more of a left lean than would be my natural inclination and I appreciate that input greatly. And 4um offers "characters" a place to post their opinions - 4um as the last refuge for characters? - don't laugh - I think that is an aspect of this 4um that speaks to freedom of speech here and what adds "color" to the discussions here - characters who may make me gnash my teeth in frustration at times, but nonetheless they are unique and opinionated and at times quite funny. They've been banned elsewhere but not here. And 4um also offers a place for meeting familiar soul mates due to an instant connection and though we're strangers it's nice to feel that on any given day or week one can easily relate to some comfy folks, no muss no fuss no hidden agendas, like putting on some old softened leather shoes after a long day on your feet. Ooops - I think I'm slipping into maudlin mode.
No overriding political agenda.
#22. To: Critter (#20)
you're so cute, Critter.
#23. To: scrapper2 (#21)
Sniff, that's okay, Scrapper. Me... me too. Sigh. Seriously, although a lot of hard-hitting stuff gets said, there isn't a lot of personal mean-ness here, either. Most posts start out with "You are wrong, and here's why", instead of "Fuckhead! You don't know your ass from a hole in the side of the mental hospital you drool in!" Basic civility without a lot of PC crap laded on top of it.
Ooops - I think I'm slipping into maudlin mode.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#24. To: scrapper2 (#21)
i love your comments, scrapper. :)
#25. To: christine, scrapper2 (#24)
Totally second that emotion. You've really got your intellectual shit together.
i love your comments, scrapper. :)
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#26. To: Paul Revere (#0)
Sorry - couldn't help myself.... I like smilies!
1. No smilies!! I hate those things. I can barely stand to read DU because there are so many people who use them. Why not crayons?
#27. To: Neil McIver (#10)
Hey, thanks. No wonder I couldn't find it. It still seems to be pretty deserted, though. I did a search and "palo verde" last posted there in May 2005. I think I must have found this site a year or so before then. I am guilty of flirting also. I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny" who used to be famous on FR. I apologize profusely for ever thinking that.
The benefits of education and of useful knowledge, generally diffused through a community, are essential to the preservation of a free government. - Sam Houston
#28. To: Sam Houston, Paul Revere (#27)
It is funny that former FR posters and former KOS and DU posters can come to the same site and wind up agreeing on a lot of stuff. I think there's a lot more common ground in this country than the people who profit from our divisiveness want me to think.
I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny" who used to be famous on FR. I apologize profusely for ever thinking that.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#29. To: Paul Revere (#0)
The web is dead. Been dead for a long time. I like seeing some of the old names and faces who saw what might have been, back in the late 90s, when there was still reason for optimism. I've also met a couple of new folks (granted on LP but they migrated here) who, should they stick with this format, and this format is dying a slow death of attrition thanks to Blogs, will be great posters down the line.
#30. To: Paul Revere (#0)
The main thing is that people with very different political views can talk rationally without being called commie or nazi. When someone goes beyond the pale, the posters tend to quash it, rather than calling for banning. The main thing is that here you can see beyond partisan politics and understand that people with very different views can agree on most things. And unite when there is a real threat to the country, as is the case with the Bush administration. I used to post mainly at Bartcop and later DU. I now mainly post here because I see thoughtful responses most of the time. Well, except for Flintlock. And no, Flintlock, I am not interested in your sister.
#31. To: bluedogtxn. all (#28)
smirkco has done more to bring thinking people of all stripes together than anything I've ever seen.
I think there's a lot more common ground in this country than the people who profit from our divisiveness want me to think.
#32. To: Sam Houston (#27)
um..there is absolutely no resemblance. ;)
I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny"
#33. To: scrapper2 (#21)
maudlin is okay sometimes, nice post
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
#34. To: christine (#32)
There certainly um..there is absolutely no resemblance.
is was, until her fake BB persona was revealed...
#35. To: Zipporah, christine, Neil McIver, robin, *Music Club* (#0) (Edited)
How bout me not blaming you for everything Alanis Morissette - Thank You :P
How bout me enjoying the moment for once
Thank you thank you ;)
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
#36. To: Paul Revere, Mekons4, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, bluedogtxn, Kamala, nolu_chan, roughrider (#0)
Just for the record, I'm perfectly content with my 15 post limit (keeps me from wasting too much time) and there has been no censorship of my posts other than my VOLUNTEERING not to call folks KOOKS and the censorship imposed by folks who bozo'd themselves to avoid facing the facts contained in my posts. ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. In fact, I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC? Well that depends on which side of the issue you are on. There's been many a thread where it was me against THEM. But who's complaining. (wink) I like that aspect of 4um too! ROTFLOL! Except in my case? ROTFLOL!
bluedogtxn - No posting limits (unless you are a known trash talking shill).
bluedogtxn - No censorship (unless you go completely insane like Leveller did, or start out completely insane like BAC).
SKYDRIFTER - [Speaking of turkeys, BAC is conspicuous by his absence, today. More disinformation school, I suspect. If Bush attacks Iran, we can be certain.]
Paul Revere - This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.
scrapper2 - And 4um offers "characters" a place to post their opinions - 4um as the last refuge for characters?
Mekons4 - The main thing is that people with very different political views can talk rationally without being called commie or nazi. When someone goes beyond the pale, the posters tend to quash it, rather than calling for banning.
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Aren't you lucky. You get to receive one of the 15 posts I'm allowed each day.
#37. To: lodwick (#31)
Hasn't he? He's been a uniter, all right. Everyone is uniting against him.
smirkco has done more to bring thinking people of all stripes together than anything I've ever seen.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#38. To: BeAChooser (#36)
You'd have been banned elsewhere. If we want Bush talking points, we can read the papers.
15 posts
#39. To: BeAChooser (#36)
ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. ROTFLOL! ROTFLOL! Could you volunteer not to type "ROTFLOL" all the damn time? I mean, aside from sounding like the arch villain monologueing in a 1950s Marvel comic book, it is the second most annoying habit you have.
... there has been no censorship of my posts other than my VOLUNTEERING not to call folks KOOKS
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#40. To: bluedogtxn (#39)
Funny that you'd mention comic books...isn't that the source for much of his material?
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#41. To: bluedogtxn (#39)
i've asked him to quit and told him he comes across as maniacal and deranged. obviously he is cuz he can't stop it.
#42. To: christine (#41)
Well, if he ever gets banned and comes back with another identity, it won't be hard to figure out who he is! Tata, chris. Off for home.
i've asked him to quit and told him he comes across as maniacal and deranged. obviously he is cuz he can't stop it.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#43. To: Mekons4 (#38)
The real news is on the blogs/forums and late night comedy shows.
If we want Bush talking points, we can read the papers.
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
#44. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#35)
I just LOVE Alaniss Morrisette. Have you seen her singing Fergie's song? It's a classic, and is funny, sharp, sexy, and musically pleasing.
#45. To: All (#44) (Edited)
Here is that Alaniss Morrisette cover of Fergie's tune My Hump
#46. To: bluedogtxn (#39)
Could you volunteer not to type "ROTFLOL" all the damn time? I mean, aside from sounding like the arch villain monologueing in a 1950s Marvel comic book, it is the second most annoying habit you have.
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
#47. To: Paul Revere (#44)
I like her music, and I also like her "Lady Godiva" act in the "Thank You" video. :P
I just LOVE Alaniss Morrisette.
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
#48. To: robin, All (#43) (Edited)
1 thru 43 (except 36) Actually ooser shouldn't be restricted to reply. Stil waiting to see aircraft parts at Shanksville.
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
#49. To: BeAChooser (#36)
There comes a point when we realize that trying to talk sense to you is fruitless. It reminds me of King Arthur fighting the black knight in the Holy Grail. BeAChooser: None shall pass.did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?
9/11 Truther: What?
BeAChooser: None shall pass.
9/11 Truther: I have no quarrel with you, good Sir Knight, but I must cross this bridge.
BeAChooser: Then you shall die.
9/11 Truther: I command you, as King of the Britons, to stand aside!
BeAChooser: I move for no man.
9/11 Truther: So be it!
9/11 Truther and BeAChooser: Aaah!, hiyaah!, etc.
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's left arm off]
9/11 Truther: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.
BeAChooser: 'Tis but a scratch.
9/11 Truther: A scratch? Your arm's off!
BeAChooser: No, it isn't.
9/11 Truther: Well, what's that, then?
BeAChooser: I've had worse.
9/11 Truther: You liar!
BeAChooser: Come on, you pansy!
[clang] Huyah! [clang] Hiyaah! [clang] Aaaaaaaah!
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's right arm off]
9/11 Truther: Victory is mine!
[kneeling]
We thank Thee Lord, that in Thy mer--
BeAChooser: Hah! [kick] Come on, then.
9/11 Truther: What?
BeAChooser: Have at you! [kick]
9/11 Truther: Eh. You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine.
BeAChooser: Oh, had enough, eh?
9/11 Truther: Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left.
BeAChooser: Yes, I have.
9/11 Truther: Look!
BeAChooser: Just a flesh wound. [kick]
9/11 Truther: Look, stop that.
BeAChooser: Chicken! [kick] Chickennn!
9/11 Truther: Look, I'll have your leg. [kick] Right! [whop]
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's right leg off]
BeAChooser: Right. I'll do you for that!
9/11 Truther: You'll what?
BeAChooser: Come here!
9/11 Truther: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
BeAChooser: I'm invincible!
9/11 Truther: You're a looney.
BeAChooser: The BeAChooser always triumphs! Have at you! Come on, then. [whop]
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's last leg off]
BeAChooser: Oh? All right, we'll call it a draw.
9/11 Truther: Come, Patsy.
BeAChooser: Oh. Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!
A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!
#50. To: BeAChooser, ROTFLOL, christine, ALL, skydrifter, critter, randge (#36) (Edited)
BAC, you're a legend in your own mind.
"ROTFLOL! I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX
"Peace? There's no money in peace! What we need is a war!"
--Three Stooges
#51. To: Paul Revere (#0)
I agree that the 'no smileys' is a big plus. Another plus is the 'no breaking news' section. Sites like LP have people arguing a lot about what is and what is not 'breaking news' instead of having some more interesting discussions. I also like that there is not explicit prohibition of 'racism' or 'anti-semitism'. People are what they are and they think what they think. If a site is to tolerate those who pray that 'we' nuke various 'Mooslum' countries then there's nothing wrong with a little racism or anti-semitism. I'm a confessed anti-Bulgarian and I'd feel embarrassed to see that no one cares about my Bulgarian bashing while those who warn us about various Jews conspiracies are supressed. Another thing that I like is the 'ignore' feature. I'm glad it's there even though the level of discussion here is civilized enough not to make me ignore anyone. So, I too thank the owner for keeping this good site alive.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
#52. To: Paul Revere (#45)
Excellent! A diva with a sense of humor: rara avis in terris ;P
Here is that Alaniss Morrisette cover of Fergie's tune My Hump
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
#53. To: Paul Revere (#0)
Oh, there is one thing that I don't like. It is allowing the members to include large, psychedelic graphics as part of their signature. This can be very distracting and extremely annoying when someone makes 15 posts on a thread and drops these redundant nonsense to no one's benefit or pleasure. There was someone at FR, I believe, who was including the head of a feline with huge canines in all of his posts. Even though his graphics were not animated, it was quite pathetic and gratuitous. Also, adding a 10-line SIG to a 2-word post... not good.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
#54. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#53)
I hate signatures. Is there a way to opt out of seeing them? It's not the content, it's the repetition. But to each his own. I have high tolerance for those kind of annoyances. It's the prohibitions on free thought and expression that trouble me at most message boards. I'm not crazy about puking smilies, either. At DU they have a bunch of people that use that smilie to express their displeasure. I call them cyber bulimics.
#55. To: Why I love 4um (#54)
#56. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#53)
That was "Sabertooth." He was actually very good on the immigration issue, in that he stood up tenaciously and articulately against the "party line" that JimRob wanted enforced there for so long: "open borders" in all but name. He was repeatedly and gratuitously banned at FR, until he finally came over to LP. As has baffled me before with other posters, he changed stripes, as it were, and became an acerbic defender of Israel against all the "Stormtroopers" (i.e., people who question even timidly any of Israel's policies or actions) supposedly there. I tuned him out after that---I can have my pick of Israel Firsters anywhere on the 'net.
There was someone at FR, I believe, who was including the head of a feline with huge canines in all of his posts. Even though his graphics were not animated, it was quite pathetic and gratuitous.
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
#57. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#53)
hummmmmm
psychedelic graphics as part o
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
#58. To: CAPPSMADNESS, Zipporah, Jethro Tull, Peetie Wheatstraw, lodwick (#26) (Edited)
Dokuro-chan Blow Your Brains Outcaution: just caution, thats all :)
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
#59. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#56)
I have nothing against his contributions. It's just that the repeaded image of that toothy head was distracting.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
#60. To: Jethro Tull (#55)
Beautiful, and we all agree!
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
#61. To: IndieTX, BeAChooser (#50)
BAC doesn't understand that posting here isn't a job for the rest of us.
BAC, you're a legend in your own mind.
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
#62. To: tom007 (#57)
That's progress. :)
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
#63. To: BeAChooser (#36)
How can someone make a rational response to your kookey rants and links to nutball one man blogs? That is, if the links work at all and you haven't just posted a phoney link -- again -- to cover your ass.
did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?
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#64. To: Paul Revere, a vast rightwing conspirator (#54)
Indeed you can disable the display of taglines (signatures). Click on "setup" and the top of the screen and unselect "View tag lines of other posters.". Poof...their gone!
I hate signatures
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
#65. To: Brian S (#64)
Thanks!! And they're gone.
#66. To: Brian S (#64)
was this about me using the 'j' word? :)
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
#67. To: Dakmar (#66)
sneaky bastards
#68. To: Jethro Tull (#67)
Why do all those "Japs" look like Jerry Lewis?
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
#69. To: robin (#43)
bump it
The real news is on the blogs/forums and late night comedy shows.
#70. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#53) (Edited)
Neil's got you covered here - just go to Setup and Deselect View Poster's Tags.
Oh, there is one thing that I don't like. It is allowing the members to include large, psychedelic graphics as part of their signature. This can be very distracting and extremely annoying when someone makes 15 posts on a thread and drops these redundant nonsense to no one's benefit or pleasure.
#71. To: Dakmar (#61)
that made me chuckle
BAC doesn't understand that posting here isn't a job for the rest of us.
#72. To: Dakmar (#58)
Reserve it - bump.
#73. To: Paul Revere (#71) (Edited)
Funny - thanks. That's why Neil made bozo filters.
BAC doesn't understand that posting here isn't a job for the rest of us.
#74. To: Paul Revere (#0)
Unfiltered news and opinion not found in most other places.
"People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people." -- V
#75. To: scooter (#74)
Amen
"People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people." -- V
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
#76. To: Paul Revere (#0)
Free Speech, adult views, lovely, concerned folks, and instant news 24/7.
14th Amendment / Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. [You have the right to remain silent, shut up and pay your taxes peasants ... hehehehehe].
#77. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, ALL (#48)
I never said there were. Just said you folks will never find out the truth about Flight 93 if you insist on promoting demonstrable nonsense like bombs in WTC towers and no Flight 77 at the Pentagon.
Stil waiting to see aircraft parts at Shanksville.
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#78. To: critter, Dakmar (#61)
Hey critter ... do you think this is a picture of slag from a pool of molten steel? I find the paranoid delusion that I'm paid to post here quite fascinating.
critter - There comes a point when we realize that trying to talk sense to you is fruitless.
Dakmar - BAC doesn't understand that posting here isn't a job for the rest of us.
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#79. To: BeAChooser (#78)
I find that you find me fascinating fascinating.
"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar
#80. To: robin (#75)
"People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people." -- V
#81. To: Mekons4 (#30)
I won a few bucks at the track today. What does Flintlock's sister look like?
#82. To: BeAChooser (#78)
So BAC, why are the people who make http://debunking911.com where you got the picture faceless? Who does the site? They don't ID themselves on that site of sketchy double talk. A site like that and apologists for the administration and the shadow government people who control it were all expectable in light of how successful people have e been in bringing the truth of the false flag operation to light. If they had been innocent, hey would not have destroyed so much of the evidence, now would they? For this pedestrian taunt of yours' to have teeth to it, there would have had to be preservation and analysis of he evidence that was melted don and destroyed. But that would have been dangerous, yes? The powers that b just couldn't allow that to happen for obvious reasons.
#83. To: Paul Revere (#0)
No poster has been banned without absolutely begging for it. No menacing and vicious penguins here.
Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.
#84. To: lodwick (#70)
Excellent. This site is almost perfect then.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
#85. To: Ferret Mike, critter, nolu_chan, ALL (#82)
ROTFLOL! That photo actually came from Steven Jones who presented it as proof of pools of molten steel at the WTC site. Here, this is a graphic from Steven Jones paper on the subject of what collapsed the towers: Notice the similarity between the two images? And if you want the original source of the image go here: http://www.amny.com/news/local/am-wtcrelics-pg2006,0,4734727.photogallery?index=35 And look around and you'll find lots of additional images of that piece of rubble: Funny, none of them look like slag from a molten pool of steel. Steven Jones is a LIAR.
So BAC, why are the people who make http://debunking911.com where you got the picture faceless?
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#86. To: Sam Houston (#4)
try .org instead....... They haven't gone anywhere.
http://freedomunderground.com
#87. To: BeAChooser (#85) (Edited)
I asked who produces that site you damn idiot. Answer the question. I saw no citation and viewed image properties of the picture and got this address: http://debunking911.com/pancake.jpg I am not in the mood to play your silly baiting games. The picture you obviously got from that site, and my question is about that site, answer accurately and stop playing stupid games. I do not like being baited.
#88. To: BeAChooser (#85)
Seems to really bother you that people are having a nice social thread without you. You feel compelled to stick your obnoxious nose into it and get your pitiful self noticed don't you.
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#89. To: Ferret Mike, critter, nolu_chan, ALL (#87)
Does it matter as long as the photo is authentic ... and it obviously is. And the implications of it being authentic is that Steven Jones IS A LIAR. I know that must trouble you. ROTFLOL!
I asked who produces that site you damn idiot. Answer the question.
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#90. To: BeAChooser (#89) (Edited)
Hey dipshit, is this a thread about BeALoser? Or about 9/11? Why the fuck do you have to spam every thread on this site with your spam posts? I'd cut you down to 3 posts a week if this was my site.
A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!
#91. To: BeAChooser (#85)
What I get when I click on source for that image: http://debunking911.com/moltenn othing.jpg Do a better job of presenting your crap. If it is a debunking911. com image FROM another source, make that plain, or actually get the graphic from the site you say it is from. And WHO DOES THAT SITE? WHY ARE THEY FACELESS? ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION.
"ROTFLOL! That photo actually came from Steven Jones who presented it as proof of pools of molten steel at the WTC site. Here, this is a graphic from Steven Jones paper on the subject of what collapsed the towers: "
#92. To: BeAChooser (#89)
All that is obvious is that you are playing games. Answer the question. Who produces that site?
"Does it matter as long as the photo is authentic ... and it obviously is."
#93. To: BeAChooser (#85)
you are a total pain in the ass. you've gotta spam your sh!t even on this thread? (have i told you lately that i loathe you?)
#94. To: BeAChooser (#89)
Give URLs to the links in that site from where you got the graphics too and indicate whether you have any connection with that site while you are at it. Being coy gets you no brownie points here.
#95. To: christine (#93)
(have i told you lately that i loathe you?)
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
#96. To: robin (#95)
lol. i had that tune in my head when i typed it. :P
#97. To: Paul Revere (#0)
I like that you can talk about the JESUIT, ROMAN and PAPAL problem here as well as the Zionist problem. Even most of the "anti-semitic" sites are off limits to discussions abouth the connection between the Roman Church and the NWO.
#98. To: Paul Revere (#0)
Christine and Zipporah are my favorite things about this forum. I also really like how I can post my rants here and not have to worry about the SS knocking on my door the next morning like has happened on LP with Fred Mertz. Well, at least it hasn't happened here yet. :) I also love imawit's posts. That guy is a financial genius and 4UM is very lucky to have him posting here.
What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#99. To: RickyJ, imawit (#98)
I also love imawit's posts. That guy is a financial genius and 4UM is very lucky to have him posting here. thank you, Ricky. imawit, ping to Ricky's compliment about you.
Christine and Zipporah are my favorite things about this forum.
#100. To: BeAChooser (#85)
Does it bother you that people arn't paying attention to you and your idiot, kooky conspiracy theories? Is that why you jumped into the middle of this thread, which had nothing to do with you or your kooky shit, and demanded our attention? Demanded our attention like any spoiled little kid would do? Grow up and get a life. This sort of crap is precisely the reason why you are such a miserable failure wherever you go on the web. And I'm doing you a favor clueing you in here.
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#101. To: Ferret Mike, ALL (#91)
So you think the evil folks at that website created that graphic and just attributed it to Steven Jones? Well your suspicions are unfounded. Here is a URL to a Steven Jones' distortion and lie filled presentation (from his own website) containing that misleading presentation slide: http://www.journalof911studies.com/Fvolume/200609/DrJonesTalksatISUPhysicsDepartment.pdf Take a look at page 26. And lest you think Jones just didn't have a good enough quality image of that debris to know better, I direct your attention to another of his reports "Why Indeed Did the WTC Building Collapse?" ... FROM HIS OWN WEBSITE. And it does indeed contain a good quality image of that debris he implies is slag. See page 9.
What I get when I click on source for that image:
http://debunking911.com/moltennothing.jpg
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#102. To: BeAChooser (#101)
A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!
#103. To: BeAChooser (#101)
#104. To: christine, SKYDRIFTER (#93)
christine, it's a tribute to Freedom4um that important issues like the nature of claims about the debris at the WTC site can be discussed. And I'm not the one continuing this conversation on this thread. I've only responded to jabs directed at me. Starting with the one by SKYDRIFTER. When they stop asking for a further response from me, I will be glad to stop posting on this thread.
you are a total pain in the ass. you've gotta spam your sh!t even on this thread?
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#105. To: BeAChooser (#104)
shalom fish breath. now shut up. you are a spam monster.
"Aren't you lucky. You get to hear me whine about the 10 posts I'm allowed each day." -- BeAChooser
#106. To: BeAChooser (#104)
get a clue. stop posting on this thread.
I will be glad to stop posting on this thread.
"Aren't you lucky. You get to hear me whine about the 10 posts I'm allowed each day." -- BeAChooser
#107. To: beachooser, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#104)
Stop posting on this FORUM! (Asshole!) Most assuredly, stop your fucking spamming! When they stop asking for a further response from me, I will be glad to stop posting on this thread.
#108. To: Fred Mertz (#81)
Put it this way. A few bucks will get you a roll of quarters in change. More, if you really push it.
I won a few bucks at the track today. What does Flintlock's sister look like?
#109. To: Paul Revere (#0)
This is all too true. Also people like to focus on the negative and give little if any credit to the positive. I see this attitude in regards to a lot of things.
One of the things I do not like about modern USA culture is that people do not properly thank others.
#110. To: christine, Sam Houston (#4)
Except when it comes to BeAChooser [okey don't hit me!]
Generally wherever christine is you will find a place where freedom is not just given lip service, but is actually practiced.
#111. To: scrapper2, christine, critter, Paul Revere (#21)
That is what I like very much, this forum has more personality than any of the others I have seen, with all sorts of colorful characters. Years ago when I lurked on FR it was that way, and I got a kick out of the various personalities. I finally joined, but Jim Rob lowered the hatchet and got rid of all the interesting types until the only people left were dull replicas of one another who mostly chanted slogans and gushed over their Mr. President. Talk about a drastic change from it's beginnings. There are also very bright posters here, sometimes I feel dumb in comparison, and wonder how so many of them can know so much about a wide variety of topics. And then of course there is critter who is very cute and funny. There are some questionable oddballs here as there are everywhere, but the overall quality of posters here is very good. Wish Burkeman would come back though.
And 4um offers "characters" a place to post their opinions - 4um as the last refuge for characters? - don't laugh - I think that is an aspect of this 4um that speaks to freedom of speech here and what adds "color" to the discussions here - characters who may make me gnash my teeth in frustration at times, but nonetheless they are unique and opinionated and at times quite funny. They've been banned elsewhere but not here.
#112. To: BeAChooser, Paul Revere, Mekons4, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, bluedogtxn, Kamala, roughrider (#36)
Actually, some of us have to work once in a while. http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=50387&Disp=24#C24 See my #24 thru #29 on that other thread on which you are being methodically demolished.
ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. In fact, I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?
#113. To: Diana, Burkeman1, Leveller, roughrider, nolu_chan, all (#111) (Edited)
"ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. In fact, I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?" "Bwahahah! ROTFLOL! You cannot hope to challenge me, SKYDRIFTER! I have beaten the roughrider, I have defeated the nolu_chan! Now there is no one who can stop me! I will RULE THE WORLD! BWAHAHAHAHA! ROTFLOL!" Please come back, Burkeman1 and Leveller! The Forum is UNDER ATTACK! WE NEED YOU!
Wish Burkeman would come back though.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#114. To: BeAChooser (#101)
I don't want your editorialization about what prompts the questions you still avoid answering. Answer my question about that site, or shut the Hell up. I want nothing more then that from th likes of you. Stop playing games.
"So you think the evil folks at that website created that graphic and just attributed it to Steven Jones? Well your suspicions are unfounded. Here is a URL to a Steven Jones' distortion and lie filled presentation (from his own website) containing that misleading presentation slide"
#115. To: nolu_chan, Paul Revere, Mekons4, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, bluedogtxn, Kamala, roughrider, ALL (#112)
I'll just repost my response to your #28 to show readers how *methodically* you were demolishing YOURSELF. ROTFLOL! *********** #34. To: nolu_chan, ALL (#28) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_and_construction_of_the_World_Trade_Center "On September 20, 1962, the Port Authority announced the selection of Minoru Yamasaki as lead architect, and Emery Roth & Sons as associate architects.[26] Yamasaki came up with the idea of twin towers. To meet the Port Authority's requirement to build 10 million square feet of office space, the towers would each be 110-stories tall. Yamasaki remarked that the "obvious alternative, a group of several large buildings, would have looked like a housing project".[27] Yamasaki's design for the World Trade Center was unveiled to the public on January 18, 1964, with an eight-foot model.[27] So there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that any White Paper from 1964 affected the DESIGN. You don't know what you are talking about nolu_chan. --------------------------------------------------------- Aren't you lucky. You get to receive one of the 15 posts I'm allowed each day. BeAChooser posted on 2007-04-20 17:27:23 ET ************
Actually, some of us have to work once in a while.
http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=50387&Disp=24#C24
See my #24 thru #29 on that other thread on which you are being methodically demolished.
"This was a back of the envelope calculation done AFTER the design was complete."
It is a White Paper from 1964. Groundbreaking occurred two years later in 1966.
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#116. To: BeAChooser (#115) (Edited)
fish breath, weren't you supposed to stay off the threads where normal people were talking? but what do you think of the plan to change the name of the 'bozo filter' to the 'bac filter'?
"Aren't you lucky. You get to hear me whine about the 10 posts I'm allowed each day." -- BeAChooser
#117. To: BeAChooser, nolu_chan, SKYDRIFTER, anyone who remembers Magneto (#115)
ROTFLOL! "And after I am done demolishing you, Nolu_Chan, I shall then demolish the SKYDRIFTER! And then the whole Legion of Superheroes shall be at my mercy! Bwahahahaha! ROTFLOL! ROTFLOL! The Legion of Doom shall triumph! ROTFLOL, all you KOOKS, ROTFLOL!
I'll just repost my response to your #28 to show readers how *methodically* you were demolishing YOURSELF.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#118. To: BeAChooser (#115)
I'm taking your silence as indication you are part of that Swift boat the Truth movement site. It is on that does zero in the debunk department, but the goal of it and people like you is not to debunk, you just want to make the evidence of the false flag operations a bit more fuzzy and make it harder for people to see the truth. So, what role do you play in running that site? Cat got your tongue, chicken boy?
#119. To: Paul Revere (#0)
I'm going to need a little more time, I don't want to get it wrong.
What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?
Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash. -- Winston Churchill
#120. To: BeAChooser (#115)
http://216.133.76.156/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=50387&Disp=36#C36 I will just provide a link to my #36.
I'll just repost my response to your #28 to show readers how *methodically* you were demolishing YOURSELF.
#121. To: Paul Revere (#0)
What's to like about F4um... The software and site maintenance appear to be top-notch. Neil did an excellent job on the software. Moderators only seem to moderate as necessary. Little or no censorship. Diverse opinions are permitted to clash in the arena of ideas. No superposter "hall monitors" who steer conversations or work under multiple handles to manufacture cause for banning someone they have trouble debating. FR got infested with that crap.
#122. To: nolu_chan (#121)
a reasoned analysis, I concur
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
#123. To: nolu_chan (#121)
Moderators only seem to moderate as necessary. Little or no censorship. Diverse opinions are permitted to clash in the arena of ideas. No superposter "hall monitors" who steer conversations or work under multiple handles to manufacture cause for banning someone they have trouble debating. FR got infested with that crap. Great points - thanks. I can count on one hand the number of posts that I've personally seen removed here. You really have to be over the top (or under the bottom) for Christine or Zipporah to give you the boot.
The software and site maintenance appear to be top-notch. Neil did an excellent job on the software.
#124. To: nolu_chan, ALL (#120)
Well I hope folks read my #38 where I ask you how Skilling managed to release a White Paper of an analysis of the structure against a plane on February 3, 1964 if he was just being shown the design concept by the architect on April 2, 1964 (as you wish to claim). Hmmmmmmmm?
I will just provide a link to my #36.
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#125. To: BeAChooser (#124)
you are not supposed to be on this thread. it's for normal people.
"Aren't you lucky. You get to hear me whine about the 10 posts I'm allowed each day." -- BeAChooser
#126. To: BeAChooser (#124)
What were you saying that you liked best about F4um? I was saying that a top feature was the software and site maintenance and that Neil did an excellent job with the software.
Well I hope folks read my #38
#127. To: BeAChooser (#89)
Where is the forensic identification and analysis? Oh, I forgot, Bush made sure there were none, and Jones had to do it or have it done himself. Now, why is that? Your poo pooing of evidence is a double edged sword, you see. Who has more cred, the scientist looking for truth or the politician trying to hide it? So far you've called everyone a liar except those who posted armed agents and unlawfully removed the evidence to China, Malaysia etc., for recycling. Now why is that?
Does it matter as long as the photo is authentic ... and it obviously is.
#128. To: Paul Revere, christine (#12)
You have found badeye! LOL!
I don't know who badeye is...That dork named The Magistrate is the biggest jackass I've ever seen. He starts shit with people, then deletes their responses to his obnoxious remarks. He's a jackass.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#129. To: Critter (#49)
LOLOL! Thanks for the laugh. I just found this thread today and that is one of the funniest posts I have seen.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#130. To: James Deffenbach (#128)
a 2 year old thread? necromancer...;P 
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
#131. To: PSUSA, christine (#130)
LOL! I just now found it. Christine had posted a link to it on another thread and so I came to check it out. Her link was to a post she had made to BeALoser.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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