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Title: What I like about Freedom4um
Source: my head
URL Source: [None]
Published: Apr 19, 2007
Author: Paul Revere
Post Date: 2007-04-19 15:19:48 by Paul Revere
Keywords: freedom4um, all
Views: 2857
Comments: 131

The purpose of this thread is to applaud our hosts for this place, and what we like about it. One of the things I do not like about modern USA culture is that people do not properly thank others. It's as if they believe they're giving up something to acknowledge that someone else did something nice.

Running a site is a royal pain in the ass, and time consuming. It costs something to run, and someone has to pay that.

So thank you to the owners, and here's what I like about Freedom4um:

1. No smilies!! I hate those things. I can barely stand to read DU because there are so many people who use them. Why not crayons?

2. No threads calling for government to FIX whatever today's most visible problem is.

What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?

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#92. To: BeAChooser (#89)

"Does it matter as long as the photo is authentic ... and it obviously is."

All that is obvious is that you are playing games. Answer the question. Who produces that site?

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-19   23:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: BeAChooser (#85)

you are a total pain in the ass. you've gotta spam your sh!t even on this thread?

(have i told you lately that i loathe you?)

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   23:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: BeAChooser (#89)

Give URLs to the links in that site from where you got the graphics too and indicate whether you have any connection with that site while you are at it.

Being coy gets you no brownie points here.

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-19   23:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: christine (#93)

(have i told you lately that i loathe you?)

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-04-19   23:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: robin (#95)

lol. i had that tune in my head when i typed it. :P

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   23:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Paul Revere (#0)

I like that you can talk about the JESUIT, ROMAN and PAPAL problem here as well as the Zionist problem. Even most of the "anti-semitic" sites are off limits to discussions abouth the connection between the Roman Church and the NWO.

Coral Snake  posted on  2007-04-19   23:36:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Paul Revere (#0)

What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?

Christine and Zipporah are my favorite things about this forum.

I also really like how I can post my rants here and not have to worry about the SS knocking on my door the next morning like has happened on LP with Fred Mertz. Well, at least it hasn't happened here yet. :)

I also love imawit's posts. That guy is a financial genius and 4UM is very lucky to have him posting here.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-04-19   23:49:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: RickyJ, imawit (#98)

Christine and Zipporah are my favorite things about this forum.

I also love imawit's posts. That guy is a financial genius and 4UM is very lucky to have him posting here.

thank you, Ricky.

imawit, ping to Ricky's compliment about you.

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   23:54:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: BeAChooser (#85)

Does it bother you that people arn't paying attention to you and your idiot, kooky conspiracy theories? Is that why you jumped into the middle of this thread, which had nothing to do with you or your kooky shit, and demanded our attention? Demanded our attention like any spoiled little kid would do?

Grow up and get a life. This sort of crap is precisely the reason why you are such a miserable failure wherever you go on the web. And I'm doing you a favor clueing you in here.

.

...  posted on  2007-04-19   23:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Ferret Mike, ALL (#91)

What I get when I click on source for that image:

http://debunking911.com/moltennothing.jpg

So you think the evil folks at that website created that graphic and just attributed it to Steven Jones? Well your suspicions are unfounded. Here is a URL to a Steven Jones' distortion and lie filled presentation (from his own website) containing that misleading presentation slide:

http://www.journalof911studies.com/Fvolume/200609/DrJonesTalksatISUPhysicsDepartment.pdf

Take a look at page 26.

And lest you think Jones just didn't have a good enough quality image of that debris to know better, I direct your attention to another of his reports "Why Indeed Did the WTC Building Collapse?" ... FROM HIS OWN WEBSITE. And it does indeed contain a good quality image of that debris he implies is slag. See page 9.

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-20   0:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: BeAChooser (#101)


A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!

Critter  posted on  2007-04-20   0:22:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: BeAChooser (#101)

Nostalgia  posted on  2007-04-20   0:23:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: christine, SKYDRIFTER (#93)

you are a total pain in the ass. you've gotta spam your sh!t even on this thread?

christine, it's a tribute to Freedom4um that important issues like the nature of claims about the debris at the WTC site can be discussed. And I'm not the one continuing this conversation on this thread. I've only responded to jabs directed at me. Starting with the one by SKYDRIFTER. When they stop asking for a further response from me, I will be glad to stop posting on this thread.

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-20   0:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: BeAChooser (#104)

shalom fish breath.

now shut up. you are a spam monster.

"Aren't you lucky. You get to hear me whine about the 10 posts I'm allowed each day." -- BeAChooser

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-04-20   0:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: BeAChooser (#104)

I will be glad to stop posting on this thread.

get a clue.

stop posting on this thread.

"Aren't you lucky. You get to hear me whine about the 10 posts I'm allowed each day." -- BeAChooser

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-04-20   0:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: beachooser, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#104)

When they stop asking for a further response from me, I will be glad to stop posting on this thread.

Stop posting on this FORUM! (Asshole!)

Most assuredly, stop your fucking spamming!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-20   1:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Fred Mertz (#81)

I won a few bucks at the track today. What does Flintlock's sister look like?

Put it this way. A few bucks will get you a roll of quarters in change. More, if you really push it.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-04-20   1:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Paul Revere (#0)

One of the things I do not like about modern USA culture is that people do not properly thank others.

This is all too true.

Also people like to focus on the negative and give little if any credit to the positive. I see this attitude in regards to a lot of things.

Diana  posted on  2007-04-20   3:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: christine, Sam Houston (#4)

Generally wherever christine is you will find a place where freedom is not just given lip service, but is actually practiced.

Except when it comes to BeAChooser [okey don't hit me!]

Diana  posted on  2007-04-20   4:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: scrapper2, christine, critter, Paul Revere (#21)

And 4um offers "characters" a place to post their opinions - 4um as the last refuge for characters? - don't laugh - I think that is an aspect of this 4um that speaks to freedom of speech here and what adds "color" to the discussions here - characters who may make me gnash my teeth in frustration at times, but nonetheless they are unique and opinionated and at times quite funny. They've been banned elsewhere but not here.

That is what I like very much, this forum has more personality than any of the others I have seen, with all sorts of colorful characters.

Years ago when I lurked on FR it was that way, and I got a kick out of the various personalities. I finally joined, but Jim Rob lowered the hatchet and got rid of all the interesting types until the only people left were dull replicas of one another who mostly chanted slogans and gushed over their Mr. President. Talk about a drastic change from it's beginnings.

There are also very bright posters here, sometimes I feel dumb in comparison, and wonder how so many of them can know so much about a wide variety of topics.

And then of course there is critter who is very cute and funny.

There are some questionable oddballs here as there are everywhere, but the overall quality of posters here is very good.

Wish Burkeman would come back though.

Diana  posted on  2007-04-20   4:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: BeAChooser, Paul Revere, Mekons4, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, bluedogtxn, Kamala, roughrider (#36)

ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. In fact, I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?

Actually, some of us have to work once in a while.

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=50387&Disp=24#C24

See my #24 thru #29 on that other thread on which you are being methodically demolished.

nolu_chan  posted on  2007-04-20   5:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Diana, Burkeman1, Leveller, roughrider, nolu_chan, all (#111) (Edited)

Wish Burkeman would come back though.

"ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. In fact, I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?"

"Bwahahah! ROTFLOL! You cannot hope to challenge me, SKYDRIFTER! I have beaten the roughrider, I have defeated the nolu_chan! Now there is no one who can stop me! I will RULE THE WORLD! BWAHAHAHAHA! ROTFLOL!"

Please come back, Burkeman1 and Leveller! The Forum is UNDER ATTACK! WE NEED YOU!

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-20   10:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: BeAChooser (#101)

"So you think the evil folks at that website created that graphic and just attributed it to Steven Jones? Well your suspicions are unfounded. Here is a URL to a Steven Jones' distortion and lie filled presentation (from his own website) containing that misleading presentation slide"

I don't want your editorialization about what prompts the questions you still avoid answering.

Answer my question about that site, or shut the Hell up. I want nothing more then that from th likes of you.

Stop playing games.

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-20   11:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: nolu_chan, Paul Revere, Mekons4, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, bluedogtxn, Kamala, roughrider, ALL (#112)

Actually, some of us have to work once in a while.

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=50387&Disp=24#C24

See my #24 thru #29 on that other thread on which you are being methodically demolished.

I'll just repost my response to your #28 to show readers how *methodically* you were demolishing YOURSELF.

ROTFLOL!

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#34. To: nolu_chan, ALL (#28)

"This was a back of the envelope calculation done AFTER the design was complete."

It is a White Paper from 1964. Groundbreaking occurred two years later in 1966.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_and_construction_of_the_World_Trade_Center "On September 20, 1962, the Port Authority announced the selection of Minoru Yamasaki as lead architect, and Emery Roth & Sons as associate architects.[26] Yamasaki came up with the idea of twin towers. To meet the Port Authority's requirement to build 10 million square feet of office space, the towers would each be 110-stories tall. Yamasaki remarked that the "obvious alternative, a group of several large buildings, would have looked like a housing project".[27] Yamasaki's design for the World Trade Center was unveiled to the public on January 18, 1964, with an eight-foot model.[27]

So there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that any White Paper from 1964 affected the DESIGN.

You don't know what you are talking about nolu_chan.

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BeAChooser posted on 2007-04-20 17:27:23 ET

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-20   17:33:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: BeAChooser (#115) (Edited)

fish breath, weren't you supposed to stay off the threads where normal people were talking?

but what do you think of the plan to change the name of the 'bozo filter' to the 'bac filter'?

"Aren't you lucky. You get to hear me whine about the 10 posts I'm allowed each day." -- BeAChooser

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-04-20   17:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: BeAChooser, nolu_chan, SKYDRIFTER, anyone who remembers Magneto (#115)

I'll just repost my response to your #28 to show readers how *methodically* you were demolishing YOURSELF.

ROTFLOL!

"And after I am done demolishing you, Nolu_Chan, I shall then demolish the SKYDRIFTER! And then the whole Legion of Superheroes shall be at my mercy!

Bwahahahaha! ROTFLOL! ROTFLOL!

The Legion of Doom shall triumph!

ROTFLOL, all you KOOKS, ROTFLOL!

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-20   17:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: BeAChooser (#115)

I'm taking your silence as indication you are part of that Swift boat the Truth movement site. It is on that does zero in the debunk department, but the goal of it and people like you is not to debunk, you just want to make the evidence of the false flag operations a bit more fuzzy and make it harder for people to see the truth.

So, what role do you play in running that site? Cat got your tongue, chicken boy?

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-20   18:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Paul Revere (#0)

What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?

I'm going to need a little more time, I don't want to get it wrong.

Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash. -- Winston Churchill

Hmmmmm  posted on  2007-04-20   18:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: BeAChooser (#115)

I'll just repost my response to your #28 to show readers how *methodically* you were demolishing YOURSELF.

http://216.133.76.156/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=50387&Disp=36#C36

I will just provide a link to my #36.

nolu_chan  posted on  2007-04-20   19:45:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Paul Revere (#0)

What's to like about F4um...

The software and site maintenance appear to be top-notch. Neil did an excellent job on the software.

Moderators only seem to moderate as necessary. Little or no censorship. Diverse opinions are permitted to clash in the arena of ideas.

No superposter "hall monitors" who steer conversations or work under multiple handles to manufacture cause for banning someone they have trouble debating. FR got infested with that crap.

nolu_chan  posted on  2007-04-20   20:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: nolu_chan (#121)

a reasoned analysis, I concur

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-04-20   20:35:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: nolu_chan (#121)

The software and site maintenance appear to be top-notch. Neil did an excellent job on the software.

Moderators only seem to moderate as necessary. Little or no censorship. Diverse opinions are permitted to clash in the arena of ideas.

No superposter "hall monitors" who steer conversations or work under multiple handles to manufacture cause for banning someone they have trouble debating. FR got infested with that crap.

Great points - thanks.

I can count on one hand the number of posts that I've personally seen removed here.

You really have to be over the top (or under the bottom) for Christine or Zipporah to give you the boot.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-20   20:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: nolu_chan, ALL (#120)

I will just provide a link to my #36.

Well I hope folks read my #38 where I ask you how Skilling managed to release a White Paper of an analysis of the structure against a plane on February 3, 1964 if he was just being shown the design concept by the architect on April 2, 1964 (as you wish to claim). Hmmmmmmmm?

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-20   21:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: BeAChooser (#124)

you are not supposed to be on this thread. it's for normal people.

"Aren't you lucky. You get to hear me whine about the 10 posts I'm allowed each day." -- BeAChooser

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-04-20   22:01:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: BeAChooser (#124)

Well I hope folks read my #38

Link

What were you saying that you liked best about F4um? I was saying that a top feature was the software and site maintenance and that Neil did an excellent job with the software.

nolu_chan  posted on  2007-04-21   2:50:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: BeAChooser (#89)

Does it matter as long as the photo is authentic ... and it obviously is.

Where is the forensic identification and analysis?

Oh, I forgot, Bush made sure there were none, and Jones had to do it or have it done himself.

Now, why is that?

Your poo pooing of evidence is a double edged sword, you see.

Who has more cred, the scientist looking for truth or the politician trying to hide it?

So far you've called everyone a liar except those who posted armed agents and unlawfully removed the evidence to China, Malaysia etc., for recycling.

Now why is that?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-04-21   3:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Paul Revere, christine (#12)

I don't know who badeye is...That dork named The Magistrate is the biggest jackass I've ever seen. He starts shit with people, then deletes their responses to his obnoxious remarks. He's a jackass.

You have found badeye! LOL!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-23   7:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Critter (#49)

LOLOL! Thanks for the laugh. I just found this thread today and that is one of the funniest posts I have seen.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-23   8:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: James Deffenbach (#128)

a 2 year old thread?

necromancer...;P

Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-23   8:16:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: PSUSA, christine (#130)

LOL! I just now found it. Christine had posted a link to it on another thread and so I came to check it out. Her link was to a post she had made to BeALoser.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-23   9:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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